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Glavovic Studio

Hello again and thanks for the email. I am a responding a bit late and could not find a way to edit my previous inquiries from the archived post of Glavovic Studio. Your last reponse was: If you want me to look at a page, provide a link to it. Being a jaded old cynic and having seen it so many times before, I automatically assume that a person with a contributions history as long as yours must have a COI. I am getting tired of trotting it out so search this page for "kindly" to see my standard response. I do have to admit that deletion as copyvio may have been inappropriate but I am still unwilling to restore. I have e-mailed you the text. If better independent references exist, add them to the article; expand it from stub size and re-submit. — RHaworth (talk •contribs) 00:50, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

The only link I could find was the one that located the glavovic page that was waiting for review; what link was I supposed to send? Also can you explain what "...exand[ing] it from stub size.." is? Once again thank you for the help and patience as I am learning tons from this first post. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dandeed (talk • contribs) 19:27, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

  • I have not sent you any e-mails. You have sent me one but I assume this message replaces it. Regarding link: please see this edit where I have converted your naked title into a proper link. "Expand it from stub size" - surely that is obvious: the actual narrative text in the article is too short - expand it to about twice the length. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:08, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the speedies

I screwed up, and I thought the trouble I was having was from the server move until I realized my typos. Thanks for cleaning up after my unintentional mess. VanIsaacWS Vexcontribs 01:31, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Silver Living

Hi RHaworth. The author of Silver Living stopped by my talk page to ask about its deletion, and it's not clear to me that it qualified for an A7 speedy deletion. The TechCrunch article used as a reference seems to make a credible assertion of the company's significance. It might not survive on AfD, but I'm thinking of restoring it so that the author has a chance to make their case on the AfD page (if an AfD is desired.) Would you have any objections to me restoring it? Thanks, 28bytes (talk) 06:16, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

  • I look at a new author's contributions history. If it is zero I automatically assume COI. On that basis, I am not sure what to make of Talziv (talk · contribs)! Go ahead and restore the article. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:05, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
    • Thanks for the explanation and the quick reply. Cheers, 28bytes (talk) 17:40, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Imeros Rodopis

First of all im a totally new wikipedia user RHaworth so im more than justified secondly i have a life too you know i was busy today i saw the guidelines of yours!I reedited my article into a new creation article .I dont exactly understood your remarks about afc and so on but anyway i gave it a go .Nevertheless Hoekstra user deleted my article considering it as advertising for god sake ive seen way way more advertising articles on wikipedia than mine though i dont charactirize mine as such Ms Hoekstra believes so ...well what can i say the only thing i was trying to do is make a little bit more well known my region thats all !Anyways everyone has a different aspect of judging and its a relative thing ! Cheers! Forgot to mention about the photos i reckon they wont be up i guess i have to upload them again :( — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pantsios (talk • contribs)

  • I hate to be ignored. I am willing to give you detailed advice but before I do so please answer two specific questions:
  • I added a {{coord}} tag to the article. Why did you remove it?
  • I told you here "we do not start an article with any heading". Why did you put one back?
  • I advised you: "don't bother with AfC, just move it straight to Imeros Rodopis". Why did you ignore it? If you did not understand, why did you not ask for explanation?
— RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:53, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

I dont know what tl coord is by mistake i might removed it,i dont know whats the problem by started with heading is there a rule?And last neither do i know what AfC is . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pantsios (talk • contribs) 15:08, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

  • Please take the time to read the following very carefully. There is a lot of detailed advice. It contains several links - make sure you follow each link. By all means disagree with any of my suggestions but if I find that you have ignored them, I shall get angry.
  • Did you see that {{coord}} is a link? Did you follow it and read? Please look at the top of your article - do you see 40°57′28″N 25°22′13″E / 40.9578°N 25.3702°E / 40.9578; 25.3702 or similar? That again is a link. Please follow it? Do you now agree that the coord template is a useful, not to say vital addition to the article.
  • Yes there is a rule about headings.
  • Please see this edit - you knew then what AfC stands for. Apparently you have forgotten in the last nine days.
  • I appreciate that you are young and excitable and that English is not your first language. Nevertheless I think that you ought be better able to understand the situation than would appear from your messages above.
  • Martijn Hoekstra (talk · contribs): Martijn is the Nederlands form of Martin a common male given name in Western Europe. Curiously I can find no Greek equivalent of the name.
  • As far as I can see Martijn Hoekstra has not deleted anything of yours. All he did was to decline your AfC submission. If you had actually taken the time to read his message, you would have seen the important words: "if you would like to continue working on the submission, you can find it at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Imeros Rodopis".
  • You did submit a strange, unillustrated version at Imeros Rodopis. This was deleted for the simple reason that you had blanked the page. I have restored it and moved it. Look at the edit history.
  • Images: whaddya mean "I guess I have to upload them again"? Have you actually looked at your upload log? The only deleted ones were duplicates.
  • An image name such as Image:5774 1149371024866 5268104 n.jpg is utterly useless. Please give meaningful names such as "Agia Marina Imerou from the air.jpg".
  • Why are you uploading images to three different places? They should all be uploaded to the Commons. But before you do that:
  • I am exceedingly suspicious as to whether you actually took all the images. The only way that you will convince me that they are not copyright violations is that, when you upload then to the Commons, you upload the original versions, raw from your camera.
  • When you have dealt with the images, go back to your draft, add no more than three images, make some attempt to make the text less spammy, then let me know and I will attack the text.
— RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:50, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

First of all i excuse myself for the misunderstanding with Mr Hoekstra ,as for my english ok its not my mother language but i must admit i handle it pretty well. However you seemed to have figured everything out what can i say ok i agree with all those improvemnts as i said im newbie here .Im confused i dont know where to start of i saw the changes you ve made they are ok you can call the shots and post it .As for the photos only 2 of them arent mine the rest are from my camera i dont mind if its such a big issue they can be deleted

  • What camera are you using and, more importantly, what are you doing to the images between the camera and Wikipedia? So, go ahead and follow my instructions: re-upload all your images in their raw state to the Commons (and that includes the ones uploaded to el:), mark the original images here and on el: with {{db-f8|new name.jpg}}. Mark the two that aren't yours with {{db-author}} then come back to me. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:25, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

What does my camera have to do with it?Anyway its a a small nikon not professional.You know ive tried so many time with my photos that wikipedia is now giving me a hard time something about copyright issues i dont know whats going on till now there was none such thing :( You know im totally confused now i dont know what to do ...? Start my article from the beginning though i copied paste once and started from the beginning .Whenever i start up occurs an issue im really tired with the whole situation always something seems to be wrong :( Cant this article be used and posted Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Imeros Rodopis to end this process only a couple of photos would to the job .— Preceding unsigned comment added by Pantsios (talk • contribs) 21:29, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

  • I want to know the make and model number of your camera just in case I am making a big mistake and file:Agia Marina .jpg for example is in fact the original image. The point is that every digital camera I have seen in the last few years produces images with what is called "EXIF metadata", ie. extra data such as date and time, camera name, etc. None of your uploads contain this EXIF metadata therefore I cannot be certain that they are original images and hence am dubious about whether you took them. To help clarify this matter, please upload any raw image from your camera so that I can see whether it contains EXIF metadata.
Regarding the article, now that I have spent so much time I probably will eventually try and get it published - using images from Panoramio if necessary but first can we please sort out your uploads? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:25, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Thats my panoramio account you can check all my photos regarding Imeros Rodopis. But sorry im busy today maybe tommorow to so if i wont respond to your answer you ll have to excuse me Cheers! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pantsios (talk • contribs) 14:04, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

  • Since you mention it, I will warn you that you must work through your panoramio and flickr submissions and for every image which you have uploaded here, change the licence terms to {{cc-by-sa-3.0}} or other Wikimedia-compatible licence. Watch Imeros wetlands.jpg and see what happens to it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:02, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

I dont know its all chinese to me all those wikipedia terms and im very busy at the moment i dont hve any time to work this through i dont know im clueless they can as well delete Imeros Rodopis article its ok with me what can i say 1 time the photos the next the text too much im done .Take care mate — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pantsios (talk • contribs) 15:17, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

SICSA

I wanted to let you know - and I hope to avoid any offense - I recreated The Society for the Improvement of Conditions for Stray Animals (SICSA). A user invalidly tagged it as R3 after moving the page, but R3 doesn't apply to redirects that are formed by page moves. This page has a good chance to be deleted when it is nominated at RFD, but in most cases the original name should be kept, and the tagging as an R3 was dubious. — Carl (CBM · talk) 20:04, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

  • My first reaction was: "stop nit-picking - name + acronym titles are never needed". The only argument that I accept, is one you did not give: the page is being viewed seven times a day. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:07, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
    • Yes, the name + acronym is the strange thing about this title. But tagging redirects from moves as R3 is a bad habit for editors to be in partially because, in general, the established name gets used. OTOH redirects are cheap. However, if you had deleted it as housekeeping ("title should not have acronym") I would probably not have restored it; it was not clear from the deletion message whether the R3 tag had tricked you. — Carl (CBM · talk) 23:43, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of The Neo Naturists article

Hi RHanworth, I am new to Wiki as I'm sure you can tell! I want to create a page about The Neo Naturists, a perforamnce art group established in the early 80s. I and many others think they should be on Wikipedia. They link to many people and things that are already there. You deleted the article. Theres a note that says I have to contact you if I want to do another page with the same name. So thats what I'm doing.

I have had two goes at the article, the first one I did'nt get the referencing right. The second one was deleted the reason was copyright infringment. Does that mean it was deleted because I quoted from texts that refered to the Neo Naturists? Is that violition of copyright? If I re write it in my own words will that be worth the effort? If not what else do I have to do to make it acceptable for Wikipedia?

Best wishes Sylvia C Tring (talk) 16:18, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

  • As a life model myself, I have a certain sympathy for you. "They link to many people …" - whaddya mean: your article was totally devoid of wikilinks - that is one reason it got rejected. Re-writing in your own words is of course important but more important are the references. I never set much store by links to paper sources so, to save you wasting your time, let me see what you can provide by way of links to significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources online. I have copied your last edit to User:Sylvia C Tring/The Neo Naturists so you may reply there. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:50, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Re: Talk:Josh Grelle

Hi, I see that you deleted the talk page because it was a redirect to a deleted page, but there were probably some banners and whatnot in the history for the article Josh Grelle, so could you please restore the page's history?--十八 10:36, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

  • There were not. The page consisted of #REDIRECT Talk:Mina Grelle and nothing else. Go ahead and create a proper banners page for Josh. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:42, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Citron

Why was my page deleted? [[Special:Contributions/] ([[User talk:|talk]]) 23:46, 25 January 2013 (UTC) You could have at least edited it or notify me it would be deleted. Can you put it into my Sandbox? Now for some reason my isp ishowing up instead of my name[[Special:Contributions/ ([[User talk:|talk]]) 23:54, 25 January 2013 (UTC) Thanks please get back to me. DavidCitron (talk) 23:59, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

  • I assume you were talking about user:DavidCitron. Hopeless self-promotion - as bad as it gets. This is an encyclopedia, not a social networking site. Your text belongs in Linkedin, not here. I have e-mailed you the text. Please do not repost it here - it will only get deleted again. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 01:45, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for being so critical about the promotion. How did you get my email address? I didn't give it. DavidCitron (talk) 01:56, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

  • You set it in your preferences. The "E-mail this user" link lets me send without revealing your e-mail address to me. But because you have sent me an e-mail, I do know it - otherwise you could have kept me in the dark. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 03:39, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

If this was my page to describe myself, do you have any other suggestions other than deleting it? Everyone I know has a page that boasts. How and why did you find my page? It is a user page, not an article. You just decided to delete mine without warning. Seems haphazard. — DavidCitron (talk) 03:55, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

  • "Everyone"! Show me just two user pages that boast as seriously as yours did. I found it at CAT:CSD because another quality controller had found it and thought it deserved deletion. Suggestions. Since a red-linked user page screams "newbie", I suggest that you create a one sentence stub: "I am a talent living in Los Angeles". First person is preferred in user pages - third person seems awfully stilted. Please explain what the <expletive deleted> is a "talent" - I thought it was an obsolete unit of measurement. Then build up a good solid contributions history - say at least 50 (article) space edits over at least a month. Until you have that, I and others will suspect that you are only here to use Wikipedia as a free host. At that point, expand your user page a bit - mentioning what you do on Wikipedia as the primary focus of the page. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:44, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

User:Ged UK and this one has nothing to do with anything User:Abbadonnergal, User:Tabercil (yes I know he got permission, however much worse) and IMG Models own page is brief and then a long list of clients. Talent can refer to: Natural way of thinking, feeling, and behaving (Gallup):

Talent (measurement). Aptitude, a talent is a group of aptitudes useful for some activity, talents may refer to aptitudes themselves. Entertainment: A show-business personality or group of them

Thanks DavidCitron (talk) 14:39, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

  • I always say that it is a mark of a spammer or self-promoter that they resent learning wikimarkup. Please see the changes I have had to make to your message. User:Ged UK is a perfect example of a good user page. What on earth do you see wrong about it? OK it contains a short bio but if you actually look it is about a dead person in whom, presumably, Ged is interested. User:Abbadonnergal is simply a misplaced talk page comment written by somebody else. User:Tabercil - again a good user page - cannot you see it is entirely about his contribs to Wikipedia and as such is totally acceptable. I agree IMG Models is appalling. Its only saving grace is that all the names are blue links and it is a very old article which would undoubtedly survive AfD. For another unacceptable page look at User:Ankush kumar gautam. I am watching it and will probably get it deleted in due course. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:30, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

BigNate37

Can you please tell me who tagged Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:BigNate37/TM/Extant organization content notice for G7? I think there was some confusion, as I did not ask for it to be deleted. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 19:03, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

  • Oh yes, you did! Restored. Look at the history. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:46, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Stairology

I removed the CSD and was planning on PRODing it per WP:DICTIONARY and/or WP:MADEUP, but you got to it first. Thanks. MJ94 (talk) 21:09, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

FolderSize

FolderSize - this page should not be speedy deleted because...

This page should not be speedily deleted because... 1. This tool is FREE 2. It is recommended by many authority sites as the best Folder Size tool on the net: "If forced to choose between these two freebies, I would give Folder Size the edge " Ian Harac/PcWold http://www.pcworld.com/article/232391/folder_size.html

"Folder Size is a free Windows utility that scans your drives or folders and displays detailed information about the size of their contents so you can see where the disk space went." http://download.cnet.com/Folder-Size/3000-2248_4-75157388.html 3. This tools is very useful in disk cleanup process!

All the other similar pages should be deleted too: SpaceSniffer, FolderSizes, CleanGenius, TreeSize and File Explorer. It would be nice to use the same rules for all isn't it? --Allancass (talk) 21:17, 27 January 2013 (UTC) So please stop deleting it! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Allancass (talk • contribs) 21:22, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

  • It is a sign of a spammer that they resent learning wikimarkup. Why did you use external link format above to point to Wikipedia articles? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:33, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Sorry for the markup I hope you will agree with me that the FolderSize page does not differ in any way from the pages above. This is a useful piece of free software worth mentioning here. Please let me know your opinion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Allancass (talk • contribs) 21:49, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Here are some more references:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/232391/folder_size.html
http://windows.appstorm.net/how-to/utilities/explore-your-hard-drive-with-folder-size/
http://suite_101.com/article/top-5-free-tools-to-fix-a-slow-running-computer-a316249
http://download.cnet.com/Folder-Size/3000-2248_4-75157388.html
http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-disk-space-analyzer.htm#Folder-Size
http://downloads.zdnet.com/product/2248-75157388/
http://folder-sizes.en.softonic.com/
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Allancass (talk • contribs) 23:18, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

  • Again, the spammer syndrome - does not want to know about bulleted list markup. But why are you telling me? What did I recommend above? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:25, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of FolderSize. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Allancass (talk) 23:54, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello Roger, I am sorry for what I did wrong. I have not meant to ignore you, just I am not familiar with this process. I think I have done it right this time. Please let me know the necessary steps to restore the page. Thank you and sorry for the troubles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Allancass (talk • contribs)

  • You have taken the necessary step - you have now created a proper DRV entry. You could create a new version of the article in User:Allancass/sandbox with the better refs (and of course link to it from the DRV entry). Apart from that, sit back and wait for a decision. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:06, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
fyi. I've commented at the DRV. DGG ( talk ) 18:27, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

RH, in your experience with this user, has the COI been pointed out yet? Your nose obviously smelled the spam like mine did. I've found a sure conflict of interests but I'm waiting for Allan to comment before I do anything else. OlYeller21Talktome 22:51, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

  • COI is par for the course in this area. Allancass cited FolderSizes, CleanGenius and TreeSize above. Check the contribs history of the creators of those articles. Just for once I accepted WP:OSE as a valid argument - Allan's submission was no worse than the competition. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 00:19, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Restore Talk:MarkMonitor/Draft?

Hi Roger. Could you restore Talk:MarkMonitor/Draft when you have a chance? This subpage was used to expand the article itself (MarkMonitor) and given that it's a talk subpage and not really in anyone's way, I'd like to keep it around for attribution purposes. (I ended up implementing edits for a paid editor; there's relevant discussion on the article's talk page.) Thanks and hope you're well. --MZMcBride (talk) 22:58, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Ametek Inc. Wikipedia page restoration

I was not aware of that by giving references to external pages I cannot take the text from other sites. Request you to kindly restore the Ametek Inc. Wikipedia page. I will make sure that an copyright infringement will not happen again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shyamutty (talk • contribs) 03:28, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Could you please restore Ametek Wikipedia page to an earlier version ? I do not have the text required to create the page. Shyamutty (talk) 18:49, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

  • I have e-mailed you a more reasonable version. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:59, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Anatolian shepherd

Hi RHaworth You deleted two of my files, citing breaches of copyright. File:Tuzkoy Ankara.jpg and File:Tuzkoy Denizli.jpg. There is no breach of copyright, I own the images. Please explain your action. "A URL or other indication of where the image originated should be mentioned." Where do you think the images originated? Patchy1 suggested I upload the images again. Before you speed delete the images again, contact me on my talk page. Bebekve (talk) 04:49, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

  • Both images are found on this page so there is a clear prima facie case of copyvio. Solutions: go to the page at canedifamiglia.it and apply clear {{CC-by-sa-3.0}} tags near each image or upload the original raw images from your camera. These will be at an higher resolution and therefore we can assume that you cannot have copied them from canedifamiglia.it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:23, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

That is a pretty random system you use to determine copyright and dispense speed delete tags. FYI: every dog photo on this page has been uploaded from wikipedia. A better solution is to right click on every image and read "view image info". And there you will find: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/42/Tuzkoy_Denizli.jpg ie the image from that website was uploaded from wiki.

All of the images I have uploaded on wiki, are also used on several websites, including forums. I have no intention of making the original images public content for anyone to copy. Bebekve (talk) 12:56, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

  • Apologies. I do feel rather silly - a created this copyvio tag and did not notice that I was copy&pasting a wikimedia URL for the image. It would have helped if you had pointed out earlier that the canedifamiglia.it page uses hot-linked images. Also, you should put a serious complaint into canedifamiglia.it for using wikipedia/media images without due acknowledgement. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:22, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

I did not know the website canedifamiglia.it existed until I followed your link . It is common practice for photos of rare breed dogs to be copied and distributed on the www. Can you please reinstate File:Tuzkoy Ankara.jpg. Thank you. Bebekve (talk) 13:38, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

  • Please get into the habit of creating links. Note the : trick to link to a file rather than embedding it. Do we need File:Tuzkoy Ankara.jpg? It is merely cropped out of File:Tuzkoy Denizli.jpg. Why are you uploading here anyway? Please go to the Commons and upload them there yourself - presumably they are still on your computer? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:46, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

I did not intend to embed and upload the file here. Yes, File:Tuzkoy Ankara.jpg can remain unrestored. However please update its speedy deletion nomination page, to reflect the copyright vio tag was incorrect. — Bebekve (talk) 14:04, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

  • The deletion log entry cannot be changed. Little purpose would be served by restoring and re-deleting with a different log entry. Special:whatlinkshere/File:Tuzkoy Ankara.jpg provides a link back to this page which is, I think, sufficient to describe what happened. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:08, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Okay. Bebekve (talk) 14:15, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

RHaworth more of my images have been deleted, not by yourself but another admin. Is there any way to discuss the matter without using a public interface? There are privacy issues. Thank you. Bebekve (talk) 10:59, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

  • Usually the problem is in the other direction - people using e-mail when they should be using this page. I cannot imagine what possible privacy issues could be involved in some canine photos. But since you request it: use the "e-mail this user" link on the left of this page. Ignore the automated reply it generates - I shall respond personally in due course. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:12, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Email sent, thank you. Bebekve (talk) 11:59, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

RHaworth, please delete these files. They all exist elsewhere on the net and I do not grant their copyright permission only for wiki adminstrators to then slap copyright vio tags on the files which then link to my contact information. I tried to delete the files myself, and another adminstrator said I could not (on my talk page). it is a catch 22 situation and wiki's copyright policy is breaching its own confidentiality policy. The situation is not tenable. Bebekve (talk) 00:18, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for the help! Cheers! Location (talk) 19:16, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Because you deleted my page, bitch. Love you! Qdog83 (talk) 21:28, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Polygamy

I don't understand how to communicate with you or why you deleted a page on the NGO that I was contributing to - the organization Stop Polygamy in Canada Society is referenced in many news articles and polygamy issues and yet there is no information here as to who they are - why is that not a legitimate page to create? I modelled it after the Cancer Society of Canada's wiki page...they have the same status. — CalgaryUmami (talk) 00:12, 29 January 2013 (UTC) Albia

History of the Philippines (citations)

Deleted page History of the Philippines (citations) ‎(R2: Cross-namespace redirect from mainspace). That's real pain! I don't know why you did this, especially without any warning. All the pages that transclude from here now don't work properly, and I will have to find them all and change them. Thanks! (Not) John of Cromer in China Philippines (talk) mytime= Tue 20:14, wikitime= 12:14, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Any unplanned work is a real pain. I still don't know why you deleted the redirect page. John of Cromer in China Philippines (talk) mytime= Wed 20:13, wikitime= 12:13, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

  • Mainspace redirects are mainly intended for alternative titles that Wikipedia readers (as distinct from editors) might credibly use. Your redirect did not fit this so it was deleted. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:08, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

I don't know what that gobbledygook means. Originally the citations page was a subpage off History of the Philippines, but someone decided to move it. Hence the redirect. John of Cromer in China Philippines (talk) mytime= Fri 20:04, wikitime= 12:04, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Articles for deletion

Hi RHaworth, Can you please delete Hassan Shahsavan and Kristie-Anne Ryder immediately? I've waited for hours just for them to be deleted. Sorry for bugging you. Bear my patience. Thank you. -- Raymarcbadz (talk) 09:38, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

  • You have an habit of creating bios, getting them deleted and re-creating them. This seems a pointless activity. Please explain why you do it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:19, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
    • Mainly because I always publish them, recognizing that a "Help improve page" tag has been released at the bottom of the page instead of "Rate this page", especially when I made slight changes before I created them. Sorry if you didn't understand, or wander about my frequent habit. I did everything I can to make the articles more convenient, and avoid disruptive editing (which seemed not a good idea). Can you also explain thoroughly why these articles ended up with the "Help improve page" tag instead of the rating one. I dislike it pretty much, and find it uncommon. -- Raymarcbadz (talk) 13:09, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
  • I think it's probably connected with WP:AFT. I don't understand why you dislike it (although you're not the only person to dislike it), nor what you mean by "uncommon". I'm not convinced that repeatedly creating then deleting then re-creating pages in order to make it go away is a useful way of spending people's time, though. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 13:34, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

As Green as it Gets

I just wanted to understand why the deletion of the As Green As It Gets, yesterday at 23, came under a G12 infraction. I mean, we can maybe talk about a G11, but a G12 is just weird.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.234.219.81 (talk) 15:49, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

  • Please read this discussion and then read this note. Since I have not yet received any feedback since I drafted the note, the Pink & and myself would both be very interested to know whether you consider this response prompt and civil and whether the note covers the matter adequately. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:31, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Xbox Community Ambassadors

Hi RH, Yesterday you deleted my article on Xbox Community Ambassadors for being 'unambiguous advertising.' I posted a message requesting some feedback on how I could improve the article (it was my first), but instead the article was outright removed with no feedback. I do believe that the Ambassadors program is large enough that it warrants an entry here, so I'm hoping you can provide some constructive criticism on how the article can be molded to fit the required format for Wikipedia. Thank you, and all the best, - MrF — Preceding unsigned comment added by MisterFitzer (talk • contribs) 18:53, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

  • I always assume when I see a user with no previous history that they must have a COI so I will trot out my standard mantra: kindly wait until someone with no COI thinks the program is notable and writes about it here. Apart from the spammy tone, another failing of the article was a total absence of independent references. If you insist on trying to get an article in, I suggest you try and find a sponsor. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:44, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Bebekve

Hello RHaworth, what do you think about User talk:Bebekve#Copyright? Can you help? Mathonius (talk) 00:09, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

  • Remove Bebekve's db tags. Quite frankly he is being childish. Because we have deleted a few of his uploads, petulantly he is trying to get the others deleted. I shall reply on his talk page shortly. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 00:18, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
  • Changed my mind - replied below. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 01:06, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

I am trying to get the others deleted because, there is nothing to prevent another administrator slapping a copyright vio tag on a file. Each tag is a link to my privacy information. The problem is not the request to verify copyright license, but the process. Bebekve (talk) 00:39, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

  • To Bebekve. You now behaving in a very immature manner and scarcely deserve a reply but since I had already drafted the following, I will let you have it.
I could see absolutely nothing in your e-mails that could not have been said here. But since you now have my e-mail address, let us try one of the verification methods I suggested: please send me the original state of File:Tuzkoy Denizli.jpg (or any other of your uploads). I promise it will go no further than my computer. And while we are on the subject of image size, considering how important Wikipedia now is, don't you think it is a bit of an insult to fob us off with small size images.
Re copyvio deletions: take for example File:Anatolian in Australia 1985.jpg which also appears in this page at cobankopegi.org. The latter page has a clear copyright notice and the image is held on that site so there is a prima facie copyvio. The solution is very simple: alter the copyright notices on the page to say clearly that the image (or the whole page if you wish) is licenced under {{cc-by-sa-3.0}}. Once you have done that, you may upload to the Commons. In the image description point out that the image also appears at cobankopegi.org where it also has a CC licence.
Just to stress: uploads to the Commons, not Wikipedia (do you think the Turkish Wikipedia might like to use them?) and at the highest resolution available. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 01:06, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi RHaworth, this site holds images uploaded on to wiki. More prima facie copyright vios exist here, here, here and here. I guess I misunderstand wiki copyright policies. Apologies to waste wiki time and resources. Thank you. Bebekve (talk) 02:48, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

UN-OHRLLS

United Nations Office of the High Representative for the Least Developed Countries, Landlocked Developing Countries and Small Island Developing States. Improbable though it looks, this is not a hoax - see its website. In case it was an elaborate hoax, I found my way to this starting at the main UN website. I guess the moral is, when you get into the international bureaucracies, nothing is too improbable to be true. Whether it's notable is another matter, but a real UN agency probably is. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 20:46, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Only Warning!

This is your only warning; if you delete userdrafts again, as you did at User:KuhnstylePro/List of Boneheads episodes, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Please do not delete userdrafts. If you do, then I will hire an administrator to block you. Thanks. Kuhnstyle Pro (talk) 21:03, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

ur funny. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:20, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Whatever It Takes

You had no reason to delete Whatever It Takes (Leona Lewis song). Under construction banner was there for a reason. Sure way to piss off a constructive editor like myself.  — AARON • TALK 23:25, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

The Digital Well File

Hi RHaworth, Could you be more specific as to why the content in the pages Digital Well File and The Digital Well File was deleted? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shyamkiran12 (talk • contribs) 05:57, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

  • Please read this. Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks your service is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:08, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Pleasr undelete List of Grabby recipients

I don't believe it qualified for a speedy. The "parent" page was deleted as a copyvio, not over issues related to the subject itself (eg, no claim that the subject was not notable). The "subpage" was not part of that copyvio (see the original copyvio at [1]. I'd be happy if this article were deleted over notability issues after community discussion -- but this wasn't really a subpage to begin with, but independent text, and deletion without considering the notability issues is also likely to spawn problems as the articles on individual recipients are reviewed. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 12:33, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

BetterNow

Hello I was wondering what needs to be fixed or what were the specific problems of the BetterNow page which prompted its speedy deletion. I felt the page was pretty good for a first attempt but am hoping you can help me to get it back online and away from the concerns about it being promotional. Thank you ~ Dreda38 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dreda38 (talk • contribs) 20:02, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

  • The main concern about it being promotional is your contributions history. Kindly wait until someone with no COI thinks the service is notable and writes about it here. One failing of the article was the ugly links looking like this: [2]. Since the link gave me absolutely no clue as to what it was about, I could not be bothered to click on each one to see if it was independent. If you insist on trying to get an article in, I suggest you try and find a sponsor. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:53, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Ok great, I can understand the ugly links thing as I am working on learning how to add text to the references section... perhaps I can clean it up and you can reinstate the page? As for the other things I do not see how I have COI or why my lack of contribution history should immediately disqualify me for posting something, it sounds like it is purely based on assumption which seems contrary to Wikipedia's mission statement. My sources were newspaper articles, statistics and third party websites which are all well founded. I feel the page has been dismissed merely from lack of account experience, but there does not seem to be anything which really qualifies it as a G11 violation other than COI assumption. Thanks again Dreda38 (talk) 21:35, 31 January 2013 (UTC)Dreda38

I don't really feel it is fair to simply make me wait for someone else to put up the page, the organization itself is of little importance to me; I am just trying to do some wikipedia writing and learn more about it, but I can't exactly do that when my attempts are being hindered in this fashion. I put a lot of effort and time into creating that page, more time than it took you to take it down based on an assumption which is not founded in facts. I do not want to wait for someone else to do the work I already did, I want to do the work properly and get it published here so I can show something for my work and build this so-called contribution history which is seemingly all important. Thank you Dreda38 (talk) 12:17, 1 February 2013 (UTC)Dreda38

  • One suggestion: I assume you are fluent in Dansk; if so, create the article on the Danish Wikipedia. If it survives there for a fortnight, come back here and re-submit this English version. Building up a contributions history is best achieved initially by making improvements to existing articles. If you genuinely have no COI then … The article does not seem spammy in tone so: add some wikilinks so it looks like a Wikipedia article; improve the references and re-submit via AfC. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:31, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I am not fluent in Dansk, and do not see how that is relevant for the creation of this page. So far your reasoning for deleting the page has not held up under scrutiny, you have stated twice now that you are basing these actions upon assumptions. Besides the "ugliness" of the links there seems to be no logical reason why the page should not be allowed to stand. It is well and good for you to tell me to wait when it does not affect you, but while I am waiting someone could come and make this page before me, robbing me of the satisfaction of my efforts. I identified and chose BetterNow for my first effort based on the fact that it is an interesting start up with competitive companies (holding wikipedia pages i.e. justgiving) and it targets a market which is large and interested in learning about these things from wikipedia. I wanted to be the one to create this page and you seem bent on keeping me from doing so without sufficient reasoning, you cited G11 but have not provided evidence to support the BetterNow page is unambiguously promotional, because it is in fact not promotional. I have noted you take pride in the amount of deletions you have executed on behalf of Wikipedia and wonder if there is not in fact, COI, in your actions in this regard. You do not seem to take care or consideration when you delete a page, but instead browse and delete it based on assumption of the identity of the account holder. Thanks Dreda38 (talk) 17:21, 1 February 2013 (UTC)Dreda38

HAUR Feng Shui

Why blank HAUR feng shui? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dijayacsh (talk • contribs)

  • I did not blank HAUR Feng Shui; I deleted it. Since you had created it as a member of CAT:CSD, and since it had been deleted before, I zapped it. You asked "please give me 2 weeks to find source". I am dubious about whether you will find an acceptable source but you don't need to ask for 2 weeks - you can have as long as you like - just don't post anything here until you have sources. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:03, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Graving Dock at Red Hook

Thanks for tagging this article for notability back in 2008. It's still tagged; you may want to take it to the Notability noticeboard or AfD to get it resolved. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 20:12, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

  • It can stay in its present state for another five years for all I care. If you think it needs AfD, do it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 00:31, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Hmm

That was an odd exchange you had at User talk:CountryRadio (now "archived"). I'm having another couple of issues with them--move-warring on an article, other unproductive edits after it was pointed out to them that they were wrong (or at least not right). What fun. Drmies (talk) 23:06, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

  • Self-opinionated to put it mildly. If he calls anyone else an arse hole (why do Americans insist on being disrespectful to donkeys?), I would recommend a week's block. Might turn into a good editor more likely will give up dismissing all of us as arse holes. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 00:31, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
    • Where I'm from we prefer a vernacular term for "scrotum". Drmies (talk) 01:21, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Derby

The area code for Derby isn't 01632. - 79.67.247.243 (talk) 09:43, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

  • Please read this discussion and then read this note. Since I have not yet received any feedback since I drafted the note, the Pink & and myself would both be very interested to know whether you consider this response prompt and civil and whether the note covers the matter adequately. I appreciate that in your case compliance probably means that you will need to create an account but that is something you ought to do since you seem to be a fairly serious editor. How on earth can people contact you especially when Tiscali change your IP address every day? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:40, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

GAPS Diet

Thanks, kindly don't mark GAPS Diet for deletion. GAPS seems to be a leading choice for several categories of disorder including Irritable Bowel, and autism, and alternative health. It's current & notable.

There also seems to be scientific research, supporting at least the gut health aspects of it. This is not some generic grapefruit or south/west/north/east beach diet. I am neither a advocate nor adherent myself.. but an acquaintance took it up, and I was surprised not to find any details when I looked on WP.

I'll also point out the articles runs at 50-60 pageviews per day, which presumably indicates it's of at least modest informative use & benefit to people. I don't disagree with such "actual entity" pages existing, but by comparison: London_Stone_(riparian) ~15 per day No_Man's_Heath,_Warwickshire ~8 per day No_Man's_Heath,_Cheshire ~6 per day

Thanks for your cooperation. Twhitmore.nz (talk) 10:44, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Webcreationuk

Hi, i was wondering why you deleted my page? Surely that means you should delete most pages from this Category:Web design companies? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kappa84 (talk • contribs) 12:08, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

  • It as a sign of a spammer that they resent learning any wiki markup (though I will admit that the colon trick on categories is very subtle and probably not well documented). Truth is that probably a lot of the articles in that category were created by people with a COI but other stuff exists is never an argument. Kindly wait until someone with no COI thinks your company is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:34, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of SlideDog

Hi, I see you deleted the SlideDog article. I am new to Wikipedia, but I'm learning fast thanks to you guys who patrol new pages and comment on the content.

I rewrote the SlideDog article completely, removing all references to features and other stuff that might seem promotional after getting a speedy deletion tag, but I guess it wasn't sufficient.

Right now I'm not sure what to do. I could argue that for instance the wiki page on the other ones in the "Presenentation Software" category look just like the SlideDog article, but I understand why the "other pages exist"-argument isn't a valid one on wikipedia.

However, may I ask you for a few quick pointers on how not to get a speedy deletion tag when writing an article similar to the ones in "Presentation Software"? Dag Hendrik Lerdal (talk) 15:27, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, RHaworth. You have new messages at Osarius's talk page.
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Osarius - Want a chat? 15:40, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

User Requested Deletion of The Covenant School (Tennessee)

Hello RHaworth! I am pretty new to all of this and I did request speedy deletion of this page, but now I realized that was in folly. I need to recreate the page with mostly similar content, but I am unsure if I would be violating any Wikipedia rules or what not.

Can you simply "undelete" the entry or is there something else I need to do? Thanks in advance for your help!

Cheers,

Jyeager14 (talk) 22:31, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

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