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Things you probably never read on Bwilkins' talk page in the first place

vandalizm[edit]

reverting everything of my edits is vandalizm if i understood correct —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blablaaa (talkcontribs) 19:32, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

i have done nearly all of this here [[1]] , what now? i spended hours to search for admins and search for third opionion, i spended hour to explain my edits and ask for explanation of his ones. i create maps for the article and add content, and he reverts it always . what is this, what is the name for this. can someone simply what to do. i want to improve the article i add statements and entire sections and he reverts without explanations. what are my options, deleting my account. everyone sends me links to "disolve disputes" i have done this already this methods dont work... Blablaaa (talk) 20:17, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Blablaaa and Dapi seem to have reached an agreement to work together collegially going forward, so I have unblocked him. If you think I've missed something, I won't consider reinstating the block to be wheel warring. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 13:56, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nah, we'll see how this one goes. Cheers! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:47, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alexandra Daddario[edit]

Hi. The birth info you added was already removed four times already, for reasons I explained on that article's Talk Page. Please do not add it again without citing a reliable source in the article text. Nightscream (talk) 17:27, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A little more polite might have been nice. Do you prefer tv.com ? movietome.com ? listown.com ? I can find a few dozen sites that list the birthday the same way. It's a non-controvertial piece of information. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 17:37, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry if you thought I was not polite. (Which passage was impolite?) D.O.B. is not "minor". It is important information that like all other info, must be sourced. The only information on Wikipedia that doesn't need to be sourced is stuff like "Christmas is on December 25". Yes, other BLP's lack sourcing for this, and they are wrong too. I didn't know you were an admin, though. But yes, I argue this point frequently, since WP:NOR, WP:V, WP:RS and WP:CS must be upheld.

If there are "multiple sources", and they pass WP:RS, then adding them should be easy. As long as they pass WP:RS and are given in the form of an inline citation, any of them would be fine. Sources whose content is user-generated, however, do not pass WP:RS. The content on TV.com, for example, is user-generated. If you look at the movietome page for Alexandra, you'll notice the link that says "Submit a bio", which would indicate the same thing about that site as well. As for listown, I don't know if the links that say, "Join In", "Submit Blog", or "Post A AD" would indicate the same thing, but I started a discussion at RSN to address this. The bottom line is, you can't just slap any ol' info in an article because you found it elsewhere on the internet. Blogs, sites with user-generated content, sites that mirror Wikikpedia, etc., are not reliable.

See this at the top of Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons:

Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced—whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable—should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion.

See also Jimmy Wales' words on the subject here. Nightscream (talk) 18:23, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Križevci anchor[edit]

Hi, I was wondering, under which criterion did you speedy delete the Križevci anchor article? Timbouctou (talk) 18:15, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Notability. It was originally tagged as too short to get the context, but from what I read, it was clearly a private zoo - context was great. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 18:18, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

R3[edit]

Why did you speedily delete Craig hoffman under R3? The name of an article in lower case letters is a completely plausible search term, is it not? Swarm(Talk) 22:45, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, not the way the search engine works. We don't do redirects from lowercase. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:14, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
We don't? Every article name I've ever typed in in lowercase redirected me to the proper article. WP:R even mentions "likely alternative capitalizations" as a reason for redirecting. The other thing is that you speedied it as implausible. Do you really think typing something in lowercase is implausible? I do it all the time, since Wikipedia is streamlined enough to not give me an annoying search engine page every time I don't capitalize someone's last name. Swarm(Talk) 20:35, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have restored it. Honestly, more polite discussion would have been more beneficial than the above - I'm extremely open to positive discourse in these matters, and DRV sure would not have been needed. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:10, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I sincerely apologize, BWilkins. I didn't mean to come off as rude, but I see that I did. At the time I felt that I stated my argument clearly and rationally, and since you didn't respond to me (though I saw you were responding to later comments), I assumed you were not going to listen to me any more, so I asked for the deletion review. However, if it was rudeness that caused you not to repsond, again, I'm sorry. I don't know why I took such a hostile tone, but it was quite dickish on my part. If it's worth anything to you, thanks for overturning your deletion. Regards, Swarm(Talk) 01:33, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why you delete my article?[edit]

Why you delete my article?

In my article there's nothing show promotion/advertising

about profile company

so please, don't delete my article

Johannovtirajamal (talk) 04:00, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article (note: it's not your article) has three specific tags related to its deletion on your talkpage as to why it should not remain on Wikipedia. It has now been deleted 3 times because of it. It included the text of a speech from the chairman - it can't get much more promotional than that. It ended up with the phrase "Get the brighter future with Telkom Education Foundation" - that's pure sales/promotion. It was also deleted once as a copyright violation. Because you failed to respond to the problems, and simply re-created it, it has been prevented from re-creation at this time. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:21, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

translation Salpêtrière school[edit]

Thank you for adding the references. I was planning on adding them en vrac as they say in french, doing all the references at once. With regards to the title...Charcot is associated with Salpêtrière and the Salpêtrière school is referred to in other articles in english on hypnosis. Or we can use Salpêtrière School of hypnosis...or Salpêtrière School (Charcot) The French title is, as you see, the Salpêtrière School (Hypnosis) but I don't find it satisfactory. The Paris School is really associated with art and it might be too confusing. I will continue to think about this. Thank you for the help. Will you be helping in the future? If so, let me know if this is a good way to communicate.--Lilymaielang 08:08, 19 February 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lilymaielang (talkcontribs)

Selina Hakki[edit]

Just had a question. At Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Selina Hakki this was closed as a redirect to Flunitrazepam#Drug-facilitated_robbery but it looks like the page was deleted and no redirect left. I was thinking of adding this as a redirect, but thought I'd check first in case there was some reasoning that I missed. Thanks.--Cube lurker (talk) 19:02, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed ... for some reason, the "delete before redirect" missed the second half of that command. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:37, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks.--Cube lurker (talk) 14:43, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Singarella[edit]

An article that you have been involved in editing, Singarella, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Singarella. Thank you.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Woogee (talk) 22:15, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I declined a speedy as it was tagged wrong, and made some minor fixes as I did ... why not just PROD it? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:55, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That attack page[edit]

In fact that page, if you read it, is not preparing to file a sock puppet case. The case has already been decided on the majority of that list, with clear evidence that it was not proven as I noted in my complaint about the page at WP:AN on the accounts MisterSoup, KermitClown and SkagRiverKing. Those names were disproven already at an WP:SPI case. It's nothing but speculation and allegations about editors in good standing with no proof or diffs to support his suspicions. Four of the names are of editors in good standing. But you know, go ahead and run a checkuser for Pinkadelica, Crohnie, Mosedschurte and Yachtsman1. They are not me and I am not them. I don't even know where he dug up Mosedschurte and Yachtsman1, except from articles we've worked on. That page also contains attack commentary like "Possibly relevant: the contents of User:Wildhartlivie/Viewpoints & Politics are all pretty straightforward lefty stuff, so you'd think there'd be a pro–gay rights or gay marriage box there. Nope." Judgment of my political beliefs and stances based on userboxes on my userpage and conclusions based on his POV from that. This page is not a SPI case in progess, it exists solely as an attack. I find the reticence of some of the administrators here to deal with this disappointing and a huge let down. It does qualify under WP:CSD G10 and the editor clearly said he "would probably delete it in the near future" here, so how does that support he has any intention to use it. He's gone around to various talk pages all over this website posting content just like this, which I won't revert because he'll attack me for doing it and how interesting that no one will revert it or deal with the attack page either. Yeah, I was blocked last month for a week, but damn it, I did my block time and for some reason, I keep coming up against reluctance from administrators to deal with any issues that are raised by other editors that I bring up. What? I'm scum now? I don't deserve to have done my "time" and come back? Wildhartlivie (talk) 16:08, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not willing to speedy it ... I said to MFD it. It's nothing against you here, and MFD is most common for this case. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:16, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
But if I nominate it for MFD, then I am opening myself up to being attacked again. I wrote to three different administrators about this, as well as a couple editors who are active in AN and AN/I and dispute resolution and no one responded. Wildhartlivie (talk) 16:31, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
G10 doesn't only apply to BLP subjects, Bwilkins. No comment as to whether it actually meets G10's other facets though. –xenotalk 16:42, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion review for Craig hoffman[edit]

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Craig hoffman. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Swarm(Talk) 22:18, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As above. More polite discourse could have avoided this. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:11, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I note your comment on User talk:Tedd-the-Tiger about the deletion of user talk archives. However, according to WP:DELTALK, it is only archives created by page moves that should not be deleted (as deleting would clear the history). User talk archives created by simple copy-and-paste appear to be OK as all the information is retained in the user talk page's history. Would you be able to delete the archive of Tedd-the-Tiger's talk page (which was created by the cut-and-paste method rather than page move, retaining history on main user talk page) please? If there's a problem I would be happy to discuss. Thanks, Arctic Night 04:28, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind, solved now. Thanks, Arctic Night 08:42, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Pieter Markoe[edit]

You deleted Pieter Markoe under WP:CSD#A1 (no context). It seems to me that the statement in the article that "Peter Markoe was Dep. Gov at British Spanish Town (Virgin Gorda)ca. 1718" provided context. The article could have used expansion, copyediting, and better sourcing, but I think the context was there for anyone interested to find out more. Please consider undeleting it. Thank you. DES (talk) 05:33, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reading the article, the first and longest sentence was about Jan, the second about Peter, and the third was about Philip ... the context problem therefore was that "who is the article really about"? Although I now see that there's some obvious COI (someone doing some family history), I would be happy to userfy it for the editor. I will defer to your take on it - let me know. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:46, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There is at least one google books result. Please userfy to me (or to the incubator if you prefer), i will either source this well enough for a return to article space, or (if I can't) transfer it to the creating editor, or delete it if that editor does not want it. DES (talk) 19:24, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
 Done It's here for you. Cheers! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:56, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. DES (talk) 16:31, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Talk page concerns[edit]

Hi - I gave User:JoyDiamond an ultimatum about changing or removing her talk page content based on the fact that the majority of what is there violates WP's talk page guidelines. She did not respond. Where should I go to have this situation looked at for fair, unbiased administrator opinion (minus the chiding and mocking and gneral unhelpfulness I have been subjected to on other occasions when requesting similar comments re: JD)? --SkagitRiverQueen (talk) 17:36, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WP:BEANS, SRQ.... --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 22:24, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'd leave her be honestly - stay as far away from her talkpage as possible. I know I said the same thing months ago. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery :-) (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 18:47, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Daniel Rostén[edit]

This created redlinks and broke a (my) redirect and you removed an important disambiguation for Arioch. Presently if someone searches for Mortuus or Arioch there is absolutely nothing concerning the man. What do you propose? I have justified my reasons for making the page but I feel they are falling on deaf ears. A redirect to Funeral Mist or Marduk doesn't work. Wikipedia needs this page. Urpunkt 17:48, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As this has come to my notice, I do feel that a deletion done in a speedy and unilateral manner is grossly inappropriate and counter-productive. Could it not have been simply nominated for deletion or had a notice inserted so people familiar with the subject and perhaps willing to devote time - which people who delete articles in such indiscriminate fashion seem to lack - to making improvements could have some input instead? Is that a problem? Dark Prime (talk) 21:40, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I haven't received a response and I do want to create this article again. So here goes: Daniel Rostén.Urpunkt 23:15, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with restoration as it didn't meet A7 criterion, since there was a "credible claim of significance or importance". However, references need to be added. Ty 23:39, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ditto on references. Also, more information could be included - such as the incident a couple of months ago with a drunk fan on stage, and Morgan's reasons for choosing Mortuus in light of Marduk's history with Legion. Dark Prime (talk) 23:46, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
(ec)The speedy request was actually removed by User:Mhking,[2] who had originally placed it,[3] and then replaced along with "hang on" a minute later[4] (presumably by mistake with a near edit-conflict) by Urpunkt, who wants to keep the article. Ty 23:50, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In the light of all the above, I've restored all versions of the article and talk page. I hope that is OK with you, Bwilkins. Ty 00:00, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No prob - I was off throwing up most of last evening, didn't get a chance to clear up issues. It was - as noted - not a unilateral deletion. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:59, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Glad we could sort this out, thanks Urpunkt 09:56, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Some crossed wires, but sorted. I hope you are recovered. Doesn't sound a very pleasant evening. Ty 17:02, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Not fully yet, but thanks. I still see zero notability in the article ... (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 17:22, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Pieter Markoe correction[edit]

My contribution regarding Pieter Markoe was brief because there was no elaborate way to say Pieter Markoe was not the Governor of Dutch St. Eustatius in 1736-1737. The interim gov that period was Jan Markoe, Jr. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MarkoeJohn (talkcontribs) 12:53, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As you can see above, the short article was userfied into a good editor's hands to see if they can do something to fix it. Sources are always vital. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:57, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

RE: PROD VS CSD[edit]

Sure thingMod mmg (talk) 21:46, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I had been given advice to use PROD on my new page patrol, rather than speedydelete, however, the fact that the page in question was being deleted under a CSD policy on a PROD tag dosen't discredit the fact that the page needed to be deleted. Whether the page was to be deleted under CSD or PROD is irrelevant, it was to be deleted. I have been given advice to delete with a PROD tag when patrolling new pages, and the page was to be deleted under a CSD policy. My point: it was going to be deleted anyway, CSD or PROD.Mod mmg (talk) 07:40, 26 February 2010 (UTC)Reply on my talk page.[reply]

EDIT: I also refer you here for a wikipedia policy that justifies my reasoning. You may also want to read up on thispolicy as well as this one.

Mod mmg (talk) 07:47, 26 February 2010 (UTC)Reply on my talk page.[reply]
How so, did you look at the policies I refered to?
Mod MMG (User Page) Reply on my talkpage. DO NOT CLICK this link 00:47, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Userfication request[edit]

Could you please userificate the Sniff Petrol article you deleted and transfer it to my userspace? Thanks. --Ckyliu (talk) 15:31, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It was created and deleted. It went through AfD and was deleted by community decision. You then created it again. I can userfy it, but first, explain to me what you're going to do differently this time. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:22, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't create the previous versions of this article and I've never seen them, so as far as I'm aware, the new version should already be substantially different and therefore shouldn't of been deleteable under CFSD G4. The previous deletion logs, Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Sniff_Petrol, mention reasons for deletion as CFSD A3, A7, WP:WEB, lack of references, all of which I was attempting to address more thoroughly and seeking advice on when the article was deleted, hence the request for userification. Since deletion I have found mention of this e-magazine in The Times[5] and Irish Times[6]. My actual feeling is that as a substantially different article in the process of being written it should of gone through AfD again, or at least been give more than 12 hours, hence the userification request. --Ckyliu (talk) 16:45, 23 February 2010 (UTC) PS: I'd be grateful if you could grab me the talk page for the article too, many thanks.[reply]
Ok, it's located in your userspace here. WP:CSD does not require anyone to be given 12hr notice - indeed, having read it, I would have A7'd the article (in fact I think I did). Good luck! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:57, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks very much :-) --77.86.126.237 (talk) 02:02, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bot Trial Complete?[edit]

Once you're satisfied that the trial conditions have been met, add {{BotTrialComplete}} and a comment to the BRFA. I've reviewed the log and have seen nothing where the bot opted for deletion inappropriately (I am not an admin). Josh Parris 01:21, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Thanks for your work on this! I look forward to WildBot tagging for G7 again :-) (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 17:25, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Now that the bot is approved, I've turned tagging back on. Yay! Josh Parris 08:54, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Recreate Article[edit]

I will no longer write anything to do with advertising or promotion I will make back the article "Telkom Education Foundation" was without any promotion or advertising so please get me to This article in Wikipedia and also I will not repeat it again so please allow me to make it again with what has been defined by Wikipedia —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johannovtirajamal (talkcontribs) 13:47, 25 February 2010 (UTC)--Johannovtirajamal (talk) 06:46, 25 February 2010 (UTC) Johannovtirajamal (talk) 07:17, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've been away from WP for a few days and came back to see how you handled User:Alloyvalves' unblock request (I was the one who initially blocked her). My compliments - I think you handled it absolutely perfectly.--Kubigula (talk) 01:11, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks ... appreciate the note! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:37, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


purple.travel[edit]

hello, i want to add this new social network i found online to the list of social networks but i can't do it..can you please tell me what i should do ..thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Madmatte (talkcontribs) 11:30, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There are millions of social networking sites, and this one is not notable, so unless you can somehow find when it becomes notable, it has no place. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:25, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I discovered that you have deleted the page about the Awesome WM. I wonder if there is a possibility to reestablish this article. Since I am only a casual contributer here at en-wikipedia I am not very familiar with the common rules here. On my home-WP (de) I would simply utter a recovery request or participate in a deletion debate. Both things seem to work differently here and I could not find an appropriate entry point for a discussion. I used the Awesome page at en-WP as a source of information about this WM until a German page will be available. So I would be very interested in a recovery. Regards, --HV (talk) 14:10, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It did go through a deletion discussion here, and the decision was clearly to delete. Restoring the information was therefore invalid. Have a look at the discussion and let me know what you think. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:27, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hm, the discussion seems to me being a bit biased by people who simply never heard about this WM and so do not care about it. I am a only an occasional user of this software, which I consider as indeed very useful in some situations, but did until yet never realize that the group of users might be a minority. In fact I do know some other people who use it more seriously than me, but that's about it. Unfortunately I now discovered the deletion discussion here too late. I would have argued that awesome is part of the window managers repository of openSuse (see here). Same is true I think for ubuntu and other linux distris. So this I think is a strong criterion for keeping it, because that's the way usually people get the idea to install this software and then possibly consult wikipedia for more information. How could I continue to revive this article? Or is it too late now? --HV (talk) 12:32, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
What I would do would be to draft a new article in your personal userspace (WP:SANDBOX). Source it, ensure notability, and all the key requirements of Wikipedia. When you think it looks good, have a few people take a look - maybe even some of those who !voted in the Deletion discussion. Articles that are similar to one that was deleted via AFD can been immediately removed - the new article would have to be much different, and much better. I also suggest the title might not have been great ... is "windows manager" really a good disambiguation, or would "software" have been better? Hope thees suggestions help (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 13:12, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
For the time being I would not consider myself as being able to contribute with a better article. As I said above I am only an occasional user of awesome and just beginning with it. As a reader I used the article as a source of information (and luckily could save a version of it from google-cache). Secondly English is not my mother tongue and so I somewhat hesitate contributing a whole article to this wikipedia. What I could do is informing the other people I know which use awesome regularly and ask them if they might contribute something. --HV (talk) 16:19, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Altered speedy deletion rationale: Brian Todd[edit]

When I requested speedy deletion, the article was full of nonsense claiming the reporter was a lizard and a link to this YouTube video. After I tagged it for speedy deletion, the original editor changed the content to something more rational. Sorry for the confusion. -WikiFew (talk) 21:37, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No issues! Cheers. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:02, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

User:Ravenfeathers[edit]

I see that you blocked and cut off email access for Haida chieftain (talk · contribs) today. You may also want to look at the new user Ravenfeathers (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), who appears to very quickly have decided that Canwest needs edits made to it. I started to revert the edit to Talk:Canwest myself, but on second thought, I'd rather a set of eyes not involved in the editing of Canwest to have a look at it. —C.Fred (talk) 22:58, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I see he's been blocked as an obvious sock. After 3 increasingly harassing e-mails, I had no choice but to remove e-mail access. I don't mind passion ... but ... (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:02, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Walter Koenig Article/Pronunciation[edit]

Hi Bwilkins,

I did not understand your comment here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cub68134#Walter_Koenig_article

Perhaps you can clarify how WP-CONSENSUS applies to how Walter pronounces his name? Or perhaps you can let me know what you were referring to if that was not what you were referring to in relationship to WP-CONSENSUS.

The only other thing I can think of is the "working together" aspect. I simply reverted from an incorrect pronunciation to the correct one as per Walter himself. And it seems that this may simply be a case of (1) Cub accidentally switched to the wrong pronunciation with the correct intent in mind, or (2) I put my message on the wrong page and it should have been directed at someone else.

This is JUST a question (as I am kinda new here - at least as an editor): Anyway, even though it is not an issue here, I am curious how WP-CONSENSUS would apply to such matters where (this case as an example) the person has publicly pronounced his name "kay-nig" (sorry, no proper phonetics) and has even publicly gotten upset when it is mispronounced "ko-nig"? Wouldn't citable, verifiable reality trump consensus (that could not be cited)?

See what I am trying to ask? Again, using this example, it is 100% impossible to find anywhere, any instance of Walter pronouncing his name "ko-nig" and very easy to find him pronounce it "kay-nig" - so, since one is impossible to cite, and the other is easily citable, how would that affect or invalidate WP-CONSENSUS?

I am guessing, but wanted clarification, that finding the citations to get the consensus to be accurate may be the method?

Thanks again for your time.

Best, Robert RobertMfromLI | User Talk 23:36, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm re-reading what I wrote below above and think it may be coming off the wrong way... either confrontational, or idiotic. So, please dont take it either way, as neither is intended. If clarification of what I am trying to say is needed (or it seems confrontational or idiotic), just ask... and I will be glad to try to clarify.
Just have a lot on my mind and a buncha stuff I am working on due to recent events.
RobertMfromLI | User Talk 23:54, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
From what I read, the pronunciation had been wrong, I believe that you brought up the correct pronunciation, the other editor had fixed it to what you suggested - that means you both agreed with the change, and thus consensus reached. I cared little about right/wrong but about people agreeing and fixing it to the agreed-to version. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:28, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! And thanks for your understanding of the horrendous wording and explanation I gave above. In a better state today and realizing what I wrote definitely did not come out the way I intended. Thanks again for the explanation and the calm (especially in contrast to my own) response.

Best, RobertMfromLI | User Talk 20:21, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Andre[edit]

Well, he had some other subpages which I had to likewise delete. It's all about his political aspirations.

If he gets elected, then we'll do an article about him. But at the level he's trying for... no. DS (talk) 14:13, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unless he becomes a really good dogcatcher once elected :-) (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 13:13, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
He's back (see my talk page) - apparently he's recovered from quite a bad infection, and is politely asking what he did wrong. Would you mind explaining to him? Thanks. DS (talk) 03:55, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Summation of elohim[edit]

Thanks, I just couldn't pin down under what it went. ChrisDHDR 15:02, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No problem! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:04, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Altered speedy deletion rationale: Buggzie[edit]

When I tagged the page all it said was;

"Buggzie is awesome!"

Or something along those lines. Doesn't that qualify as A1 (or even A3), as well as G3, which you deleted it under? And, off the subject, but thank you very much for giving me the chance to work on improving Lukundo Nalungwe.
Kindest regards, SpitfireTally-ho! 16:39, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it turned to Vandalism when he merely copy/pasted the same line into the article about 40 times :-) (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:50, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I see SpitfireTally-ho! 20:40, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Jade Starr article deletion[edit]

hi there. I have added the sources into the article. Thank you for your help and time. Please let me know if I need to do anything else to fix the article. As you can tell, I am new at this. :) Update: I added some more sources, cleaned up the formatting some, and fixed my signature on here. Thanks again! Phantomcowboy (talk) 20:36, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How does it look? Do I need to do anything else? Phantomcowboy (talk) 20:25, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry[edit]

Oh, after reading your messages on my talkpage I must admit I was wrong, looks like I'll have to actually think about what policy I'm nominating a page for deletion under, and thanks!
Mod MMG (User Page) Reply on my talkpage. DO NOT CLICK this link 23:11, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers :-) (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:18, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, would you care to close? Dlohcierekim 12:10, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Odd that it was an active CSD when I handled it ... and should have remained that way. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:15, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The creator removed the AFD tag a number of times, someone came along and retagged for CSD. Turns out that the creator modified and userfied the article-- it was about him after all. Dlohcierekim 13:21, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
A lot of WP:BURO then in order to delete a simple A7 / COI issue? As a minimum it was an unsourced BLP. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 13:24, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Requests for unblock page moving very slowly[edit]

Hello. The requests for unblock page has been moving very slowly today, and some users have been waiting quite a few hours. Just wondering if you could help. If you can't, please delete this message. Thanks.Chuckcreator (talk) 16:36, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have looked at all of them - many have been awaiting replies from the editor for some time, and might just turn into declines. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 19:24, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of the MacGuffin Film Podcast Page[edit]

I believe the MacGuffin Film Podcast page deserves inclusion, because it provides an outlet for film discussion and an avenue to understand the work and artists who make films. I believe it is certainly just as relevant as a podcast like Comic Geek Speak (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comic_Geek_Speak). If you could help me understand why that page is relevant and the MacGuffin Film Podcast page is not I will correct it accordingly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Heitbwp (talkcontribs) 19:17, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Notability. Oh, and WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 19:27, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Applicants[edit]

Hey, Was trying to upload new page for Applicants. For sources I included a reference from a British national newspaper and an article published by the Joe Meek Society (although it was reproduced on LastFM) I was about to link to some reviews and interviews published on independent websites (including drownedinsound.com) but the article was deleted. Anything I could/should do to get the article up to scratch? Adamrbsv (talk) 23:02, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks - I hadn't mentioned it but the band satisfies this criteria: - Has been placed in rotation nationally by any major radio network

- having received regular airplay on BBC6 Music. Would stating this have made the article acceptable? Adamrbsv (talk) 23:18, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As the sites you're using are not reliable sources, (you would need to properly source the "rotation" as well) and all the searches that I have done find zero notability results, I cannot see this easily making it ... (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 00:05, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is guardian.co.uk really not a reliable source? It seems to fit the criteria. I'm not sure about sourcing the rotation. I've found this page - [7] - would that count? (Sorry to keep on bothering you!) Adamrbsv (talk) 00:33, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Guardian should be a reliable source - it's a prestigious UK broadsheet, with wide coverage of music subjects, and an article in the Friday section should be acceptable. Not sure what BWilkins is thinking, but he's normally a sensible sort of chap so you should be able to discuss with him. Elen of the Roads (talk) 12:29, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have no issues with much of the Guardian. It depends whether it's a blog on the Guardian, or a wide-covering article and not a mere mention. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 13:00, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
As I said, you're a sensible chap, so the editor should be able to discuss with you why there was a problem in this instance, given that the Grauniad is normally sufficiently reliable (they even spell properly these days). Elen of the Roads (talk) 14:06, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Larry Andre 01:51, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[edit]

I am Andre39 - I didn't understand your directions for fixing it - all pictures were ours to use, and whether or not it is an appropriate use of a page, I still do not understand what was wrong with it. I still have the code - what can I do to fix it? I went to alot of work to put it up, and the only reason I have not logged on is I have been suffering with a sreious staph infection for the last 4 weeks. Can you please help? — —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andre39 (talkcontribs) 01:51, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, Mr Andre, you do not meet the notability requirements as listed at WP:POLITICIAN. Wikipedia cannot be used as your campaign website. Much of the information that was on that page was certainly not encyclopedic - and you need to keep in mind WP:COI. To fix notability, you actually have to win an important position. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:57, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, one more question please? I am not Larry Andre, I used Andre39 because it is not suggested that I use my real name. So, my question is can I do what it states below? "In the case of candidates for political office who do not meet this guideline, the general rule is to redirect to an appropriate page covering the election or political office sought in lieu of deletion. Relevant material from the biographical article can be merged into the election or political office page if appropriate." Can I create a page which pertains to the election? Thanks for your time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andre39 (talkcontribs) 08:07, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jed Brandt[edit]

You CSD' Jed Brandt under A7. If it is anything like Jed brandt, then this is not true: there is a claim made of notability. A7 specifically mentions the standard is NOT notability, but a claim of notability, and hence this is not a good speedy candidate. Rather than go to a Deletion review, I ask that you please restore and submit to AfD for community discussion, rather than speedy, or at least allow the moving of Jed brandt to Jed Brandt. Thanks!--Cerejota (talk) 15:23, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that the article has been re-created following page-protection as Jed Brandt (activist). It seems heavily promo, but at this point it's hard to tell whether it's been written by his fans or his detractors. Political bios often seem to be like that. :-) Another editor has prodded it. MuffledThud (talk) 19:30, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah I see the prod has turned into AfD. Let the games begin! :P More seriously I agree the multiple recreations are not very smart but AGF tells me to chalk it up to inexperience rather than malice... lets see --Cerejota (talk) 00:58, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jade Starr article[edit]

Sorry to be a pest, I am just rather confused as to what is going on? Is there anything else I need to do? I think I fixed all the references issues and htmling. Thanks! And sorry again if I am posting in the wrong place. Phantomcowboy (talk) 21:24, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

7SeriesBOT approved[edit]

You're aware, I hope? Josh Parris 12:42, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I did add the ID to the config file this morning, and watched it delete a few articles ... it did give one or two code errors this morning, but I thought it looked okay before I left home. I see a few WildBot tagged pages that are waiting, I wonder if the bot crashed? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:44, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That'd be right. Gimmie a holler when you can get the stack (and a little beforehand, if possible, so I know what lead up to it). Josh Parris 14:10, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding User:Michael1963[edit]

The page was not created by Michael1963, but by Criss245, an account that appears to have stopped making serious contributions. Ian.thomson (talk) 13:18, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Still, it didn't meet the requirements for a speedy. Someone put a talkpage comment on an otherwise blank userpage (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:54, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion query[edit]

Hello Bwilkins, You deleted my page about JBA Consulting and if I understand the coding correctly, it was because of lack of notablility. I hope to be able to remedy that but I need to access the article. I have been advised that the thing to do is to ask you to restore it to a subpage of my user page. Then, if I want to submit it again , do I repeat the procedure or come back to you? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aliceelisabethmay (talkcontribs) 14:13, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Done (further info on your talkpage) (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:59, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of user talk page after it had been moved into main space[edit]

I see you deleted Talk:Ina Ina, with the edit summary "G8: Talk page of deleted page". Ina Ina had been deleted with the summary "G7: One author who has requested deletion or blanked the page". However, Ina Ina had originally been User:Caragea Florina, which was moved to Ina Ina with the edit summary "moved User:Caragea Florina to Ina Ina: confidentiality", and likewise Talk:Ina Ina was originally User talk:Caragea Florina. The consequence of this is that the user has, by moving her user page and user talk page to main space and then requesting deletion, managed to get round WP:UP#DELTALK, which says that user talk pages are normally not deleted "barring legal threats or other grievous violations that have to be removed for legal reasons". I discovered this because I wanted to check back to some edits on her talk page, and am not able to. Unless there is some special reason, I think that the deleted Talk:Ina Ina should be restored to User talk:Caragea Florina, and, since it was you that did the deletion, I should like to ask you to restore it. JamesBWatson (talk) 16:35, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Done ... cheers. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 17:04, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks JamesBWatson (talk) 08:44, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pal Park[edit]

Why exactly did you delete Pal Park? Now the history is gone. It could have been redirected. Was the article brought back from a previous revision or started from scratch? Now there is no way to tell. Could you please restore it and redirect it to Pokémon? Thanks Blake (Talk·Edits) 20:18, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article was rightly deleted as "No indication that the article may meet the guidelines for inclusion" under WP:CSD. Someone else recognized it as such, and I agreed. There is no "history" - it was wrongly recreated, and reads as a "how to". There is nothing in it, or in its history worth saving. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 21:36, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I knew it had no notability, but really? There was no history before that? I guess we started cracking down on articles before it was created. Thanks anyways. Blake (Talk·Edits) 22:56, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The history was basically 3 creations, 3 tagging, and 3 deletions. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:12, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is 7SeriesBOT up?[edit]

I suspect not. Josh Parris 10:16, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Restarted it seconds ago (after downloading the new version, of course) (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:22, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Tip: while running an old version, you can download the sources for a new version, run it up and then kill the old version. Josh Parris 13:00, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, would you please block this guy with a IP number 213.240.232.170 from bulgaria[edit]

He is constantly vandalizing the data related to Turkish tv series Gümüş by adding a suffix (/166) to the number of original episodes (100)! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.110.95.62 (talk) 22:15, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is so long ago now that I cannot act on it. WP:AIV is the best place if it's truly vandalism. Sounds more to be like a content dispute though. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:08, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

FIctionist Page Deletion[edit]

I was just wondering what it was about the page I made for the Fictionist page that led to it's deletion. I used the news article written about them specifically because it made the page unquestionably fall within the relevance guidelines. Kevinflo (talk) 10:51, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I stated it on your talkpage before I even deleted it. Have you read WP:MUSIC? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:09, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Username problem[edit]

Hi again. Per above, the user Fukangsi (talk · contribs) had place his blatant advert on both his own user page (which was tagged CSD by me and deleted by you a while back) and that of WP:MCQ (evidence here → [8]). To me, this smells of WP:SPA. Would this suffice to warrant an indef on him? --Dave ♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 11:05, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

He's already been blocked accordingly ... (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:11, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm getting admins yelling at me again[edit]

I take it 7SeriesBOT fell over; are there logs for me? Josh Parris 14:20, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ugh ... it was cool when I left home this morning. Grrr. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 14:55, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's back up now. What was the probem? A code crash, or environmental? Josh Parris 00:51, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oddly enough, when I got home it appeared to be totally fine ... (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 00:52, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
My guess is loss of internets; do you have sufficient scroll-back that you can see if that happened - messages about things not being available and retrying in howeverlong would pop up? Josh Parris 04:46, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Could I ask you to please restore this to the pre-vandalism version? This was a long-standing, proper soft redirect. It was vandalized, CSD tagged, and deleted all in less than 5 minutes. I do not like the idea that someone vandalizing a valid page can get the page deleted like that. - TexasAndroid (talk) 15:14, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I went ahead and restored it. Cheers, –xenotalk 19:18, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No issues...thanks (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 20:41, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dire Straits tour/Notes[edit]

I wish to discuss it with you, experts in removal, but User:Tagishsimon ignores the User talk page. I would not like to wage war of undos. Give we will discuss this question.--Andrey! 15:17, 5 March 2010 (UTC)Has written also to the nominator--Andrey! 15:34, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Replied and will deal with in one location. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 20:42, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gayboylacas spam links[edit]

I'm having trouble figuring out why surf.to is not blacklisted. Seems the type of thing that should automatically be added to the blacklist. Ridernyc (talk) 15:33, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I would think so too ... feel free to submit @ WP:BLACKLIST (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 20:42, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Paolo I.[edit]

This page was deleted as per your comment on not finding reference for winning Juno. The Juno was clearly indicated in the bio as being attributed to the unit CAPITAL SOUND which if you research correctly was a unit that Paolo I. performed in as well as participated as a songwriter. He is often credited under aliases. As for the diamond certified, it is based on overall sales in canada. MUCHMUSIC DANCE 95 (Quality Records)is 3x platinum in sales just to name but one that he has been on. You will find it difficult to find info on any artist who is working under different names or in a group. Just to base it on references or calling it promotion is a clear indication that Wikipedia is not there to list credentials but to delete those who have a history in the arts, politics and all other forms. Do a search for Rocko T. Bello as this is one of his aliases and see what pops up in google. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blueskinge (talkcontribs) 00:11, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

...but none of the references confirmed anything claimed. Read WP:MUSIC, and know that I covered the Juno awards many times ... (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 00:14, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juno_Award_for_Dance_Recording_of_the_Year

http://mixes.eurodancehits.com/classic/capitalsound.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.47.249.251 (talk) 16:38, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

...and at what point does that approach being a reliable source? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 18:00, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

obviously putting a wikipedia link as a source does not seem valid to you. how do we rectify this to get the page back up. Can we simplify the bio and just put: Canadian songwriter. The end. Will that suffice? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.29.147.28 (talk) 01:12, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You're right that Wikipedia cannot be a reference to itself. Really, WP:MUSIC is clear. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:22, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If I use WP:MUSIC as the source and the musician is supposed to have 1 of the criterias, this artist has many. Juno for dance recording of the year with the ensemble Capital Sound is but one of those criterias. There is also having a song on a national chart, there are atleast 3 with Capital Sound alone. The link that was included other than the wikipedia source is not related to the artist at all, it's a site dealing with eurohits. WP:MUSIC definitely has this artist fitting the guidelines. so I am confused. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.172.0.195 (talk) 20:06, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:dvfoxztgldfe and http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:hbfqxzy5ldke and/or http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:wxfyxqwkld6e~T3 how's it coming along now?

Pls remove cats[edit]

When u userfy, it'd save time if u could pls remove {{New unreviewed article}} (eg User:Aliceelisabethmay/JBA Consulting), to save duplication of efforts; thx  Chzz  ►  00:38, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ugh, I usually do ... my bad, sorry. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 00:46, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

thanks for speedy deletion[edit]

thank you for the deletion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.113.121.104 (talk) 11:01, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

AN/I "Quick Closures"[edit]

Hello, Bwilkins! I really think this should immediately be closed on this board. It's resolved, and its speedy closure might help demonstrate/alleviate the problem of unresolved conflicts being needlessly archived without decision. Easy one here, I think. I'll close it if non-admins are allowed to... pretty please with sugar on top? Cheers :> Doc9871 (talk) 11:26, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Closing" isn't vital there...but it was done before I got there. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 14:27, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
My bad - "resolved". Same difference, right? ;> Doc9871 (talk) 14:31, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Not really the same. Neither marking {{Resolved}} nor closing the discussion with {{discussion-top}} and {{discussion-bottom}} are required - nice, but not required. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 14:39, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't know that (no wonder the archives looked so "messy" :>). I figured it was standard to close or resolve them in order to expeditiously separate them from open discussions (and I contacted you because you were watching the thread). Thanks for clearing that up for me, BWilkins! Cheers :> Doc9871 (talk) 14:51, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If you do decide to "close them", make sure that a) the Resolved tag is directly below the title b)The discussion-top tage must come below that, or else archiving gets messed up, and c) the discussion-bottom tag, of course, goes at the bottom of the thread. Of course, typically don't mark one resolved that you opened or were the subject of (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:02, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Copy/paste user page[edit]

I thought this may be of interest you, I saw you deleted the Ben Torres page and this one might be a copy/paste type deal. I don't remember what the original looked like though. Jeffrey Mall (talkcontribs) - 14:26, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's close ... but still spam! Thanks. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 14:29, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nivelu' 4[edit]

Hey there. I would like to know what was wrong with the article about Nivelu' 4, so that I can improve it and then add it again. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Duracellbv (talkcontribs) 20:33, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have replied on your talk...and AfD'd this article so that the community has additional comment. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:45, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi.[edit]

Hi, I'm Layzap, you know the one who created 'Random Club'? Can u help me delete it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Layzap (talkcontribs) 05:11, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's already done. CSD is how you delete things quickly. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:46, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion declined: Calcott (car)[edit]

You declined this speedy deletion request noting that no source of the copyvio had been provided, yet the website address was provided which shows the same text as the Wikipedia article but as having it 8 months prior to Wikipedia. If the edit summary is not the place to note the address then where. Thanks. Weakopedia (talk) 11:11, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, the supposed copyright source was empty - that's why I declined it. That CSD template has a location for the website. I will go back and double-check the edit summary instead (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:16, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry if I didn't use the correct summary section. It was my first time using the template, although that should have encouraged me to take extra care reading the instructions. If I need to reapply let me know. Cheers. Weakopedia (talk) 11:23, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The other important part of that (or any other CSD template) is "can it be saved". You'll note I have trimmed down the article to stub size - it appears to be notable to a degree. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:25, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In that I tried to consider whether notability was likely to be established and I wasn't confident. I'll have a go though, and thank you for your assistance. Weakopedia (talk) 11:36, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bot Talk Page Deletion[edit]

I dislike what is happening here. I started an article with a link to a disambiguation page and the bot quite correctly started a talk page with a note that the problem should be fixed. I fixed the problem and the bot deleted the talk page. When I go to add a template to the talk page, I get a rather forbidding warning like:

A page with this title has previously been deleted.

If you are creating a new page with different content, please continue. If you are recreating a page similar to the previously deleted page, or are unsure, please first contact the deleting administrator using the information provided below

  • 21:49, 7 March 2010 7SeriesBOT (talk | contribs) deleted "Talk:Atyap" ‎ (Only one contributor who requested deletion under WP:CSD#G7)

To a new editor, this would be disconcerting. I think it would be better to leave the page and put in something more positive, like:

An automated tool found links in this article to one or more disambiguation pages. The problem has now been fixed.


^^^That warning never stopped me, and I'm still editing wikipedia! (Bwilkins, I would like you to respond on my talk page to the comment I posted here under the title "Sorry") —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mod mmg (talkcontribs) 06:51, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Something like that. I know there is a guideline against creating blank talk pages, but once created it seems best not to delete it. Aymatth2 (talk) 01:22, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WildBot's FAQ seems to say it best: see here (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:30, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Unless I'm reading WildBot's FAQ wrongly, it says nothing at all about deleting talk pages. It seems to say it uses a banner and updates the content of the banner, and thus the history of the changes are not on the page, since each update supersedes the previous one.
The issue raised by Aymatth2 is about deletion of the talk page, and whereas you're right that you can as the author request its deletion, you do seem to be causing unnecessary alarm, confusion and dismay; and none of those are good things. I'd be very grateful if you would reconsider your decision, with a view to leaving the talk page up. If any humans are sufficiently concerned about the tidyness of the page, they can archive the banner. thanks --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:28, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You might have missed this update; other posts were appended at the foot after the above post. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:08, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have replied on your talkpage. The link to the tasks from User:7SeriesBOT discusses the thought process that was taken - indeed, there was debate. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:24, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

MobileRead wiki[edit]

I have a dilemma. You deleted this page because it promoted a site and I had another post from Realkyhick 20:41, 6 March 2010 (UTC) that wanted to delete it because the description didn't show the site as noteable. I don't know how to make it notable without seeming to promote it. There seems to be two Judges and I can't seem to please them both. I would like the page reinstated but you can delete anything you think is promoting the site. I won't change it. I added it because it is required to add the site for the list of wikis page and I believe it belongs in that list. It is unique and I modeled it after other sites listed in that list. Please let me know how this can be resolved.--DaleDe (talk) 18:08, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It was not notable - and it read as an advertisement so ot qualified for deletion under 2 sections. Most sites, blogs, wiki's do not meet notability requirements for inclusion. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:19, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

About a deleted page[edit]

Hi, This is Nick Stevenson, and i'm writing to ask about a page of mine which got deleted. The page was about VirtualBarter, and i added it just yesterday (8th march '10). The article was yet to be complete, i was in the process of collecting more info about the Company history , services offered, etc. This was not meant to be a promotional article, i merely described what VirtualBarter does. Kindly let the article be finished. You may very well remove it if the article still has a promotional content.

Thank you...

Nick.Stevenson 05:21, 9 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nick.stevenson (talkcontribs)

Gourmandises[edit]

Why did you delete Gourmandises (album)? It is correct name for the article about the debut album by Alizée. See for example Seul (album) (the debut album by Garou) and Seul (song). James Michael 1 (talk) 07:12, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See the answer above about notability - most specifically, WP:MUSIC. Even if a band is notable, their albums generally are not, unless they have charted at certain levels, etc. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:18, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's fine. I've gone ahead and prodded the article. Thanks for the note. --Dennis The Tiger (Rawr and stuff) 16:42, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm with you, it is a rather good article. I just couldn't find anything on the guy. Does appear to be a new edit, though, so it's just as well I pulled it out of patrol. =) It'll do fine. --Dennis The Tiger (Rawr and stuff) 16:55, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Deleted Article "Pokertrainingnetwork"[edit]

Hello Bwilkins,


I just sent you an email about the above referenced deleted article. I look forward to hearing from you regarding the revision and if it is now appropriate for Wikipedia. Thank you.



Trane57 (talk) 17:27, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ok if i quote some newspapers information about her then is it ok ? i will update it gradually well want your support also.== Bwilkins i dont think that you have done right to delete this page ==

friend bwilkins i dont agree with your work as you dlete the file see other admin if they wrongly delete the page then they restore alos after knowing fact As i know wikipedia is not for a particular group or country as as it is global it must contains information of different people and different fields as Dr. Veena Pandey is one of the popular personalities in Asian Countries she is a notable politicien also she is a popular asian literature writer she got various prestigious prizes also she is Member of Parliament she is National President of women wings in Bahrtiya Janta Party from which Mr. Atal Bhiari Vajpayee is Prime Minister of India who dont need any identification as he is one of the popular and best leader in world . she got prize of excellence from popular Hindi Literature poet Mahadevi Verma for which there is information in your site also Dr. Veena Pandey is also Member of Legislative Council and take part in various Political movement and other prominent issues due to which she is in top 100 womens in asian country in which there is Sonia Gandhi presently chairperson of congress , Kalpana chawla of NASA smriti irani actress etc.Dr. veena Pandey dont need any introduction as you know in Asia country there is no such Awareness about internet so there is not much information about popular personalities of asian countries for which we are adding information in you site we think you also help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.96.41.33 (talk) 18:35, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yup. No such Awareness about internet in "Asia country". Gotcha there I'm afraid, Bwilkins... Doc9871 (talk) 23:32, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have gone through the results from 1991 to 2004 for Uttar Pradesh using this series of charts and have been unable to find any instance where she won - she clearly lost in 2004, but does not appear otherwise. She may have been a candidate, but this does not make her notable - being a member of the legislature might not have created notability in all cases either. On top of that, there were zero third party reliabel sources being used, and as a biography of living persons that was a necessity. I would welcome anyone to write any article on notable people. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:03, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
well thanks for for your findings but i think you have not clearly read what i have written that there is no such important information about her as she is member of lagislative council which is equivalent to Governer in your region well i dont know why you not make your thinking broad as she has never fight election in up election beacuse no she is having Cabinet minister rank and why you not think if a person having higher rank why she should fight election for a lower grade post if you have found some result then it is wrong beacuse if your name is bwinkins there must be some other bwinkins also might be from your street also where you live. make your think broad and do not useless delete page admin should help people to add new information not to dlete uselessly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.224.56.207 (talkcontribs)


i dont know why you have deleted page of Veena Pandey as she is very popular social Worker, Writer national Prize holder by some of eminent persoonalities like Maha Devi Verma about which ther is biography in wikipedia she has also worked with Atal Bihari Vajpayee Former Prime Minister of India about him also there is information in your wikipedia page She is also Member of Legislative Council Member she is Currently Among Top 100 Popular Ladies in Asian Countries ,Friend as you know in asian cpountries there is no awareness of internet in asian countries so there should be some information about these famous person who are popular in real physical life but there should be information here also you have to help as wikipedia's one use is also to give information about all countries important thing if you want to have any suggestion or help you can give as we are do not know how to correctly present her just remove bar over article of Veena Pandey as it needs to be publish to public as here many persons from different countries many time ask that there is little knowlege about her so it have to be in internet.

thanks for help . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.224.56.207 (talk) 17:41, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Without clear third party, reliable references to any of this information, an article about a living person cannot remain on Wikipedia. It's all well and good to say per A did X and Y and Z, but to properly source it is completely different. Write an article that includes sources which will support claims of notability, and it can stay on Wikipedia - the one that was here could not. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 18:09, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is, as the Google translation of the article says, the principle percussionist of the Munich philharmonic. You seem to have deleted it as A7. Please restore. I know I could do it myself, but I always ask first. (yes, I know enough German to fix up the Google translation a little) (btw, if Panday , above, is a member of a legilature, that p. too needs to be restored--I notice the article says on its face that she's a member of the Uttar Pradash Assembly) . Additionally, you deleted InkMedia as A7, but its a computer, not a company.--merely noticed it since I was here--that one probably needs afd. My friend and colleague, perhaps you are going a little too fast. DGG ( talk ) 23:20, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It appears to have been done ... my little bit of German seems to have missed the assertion ... I'll check Panday, and InkMedia again (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:44, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Panday appears to have never won - which matches my quick search yesterday (see link I searched today in the section above). InkMedia was a company from BC Canada who built 2 computers: the Olea and the Ilex with Ubuntu and Open Office. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:07, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Basshunter Music Video Storyline[edit]

This article was deleted WITHOUT proper cause. The proposed deletion tag was removed from the article after significant changes had been made in an effort to ensure that the article was credible. This was all in line with the instructions set forth BY the proposed deletion tag. I appreciate your concern, and I will now simply have to create another article of the same caliber. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Typat (talkcontribs) 05:33, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALSO, you noted that the pages for each song already listed the music video summaries. BUT AS I ALREADY NOTED on the discussion page for the article, not ALL of the videos had summaries and many of the existing summaries hardly skimmed the surface. This article created an IN DEPTH view of each of these videos. You should be more careful before you delete an article.

Typat (talk)

Music video storylines are not notable in an encyclopedia ... unless it's a music-specific encyclopedia. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:41, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Then you better go through each of these( 1 2 3) along with numerous other pages about songs and delete the part about the music video. Your reasoning is flawed. Countless pages ALREADY have information regarding the music video of the song. WHy would this be any different? Typat (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:08, 10 March 2010 (UTC).[reply]

WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS and WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 21:34, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WP:EVERYTHING Typat (talk)

That's funny ... using an article that says to not make the argument that you're trying to make. I'll take that to mean that Wikipdia wins this time. Try and use your editing energy on articles that make sense for an encyclopedia, and I'm sure you will make some awesome articles. Cheers. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 19:14, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What about WP:ALLORNOTHING? --Typat (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:23, 11 March 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Same essay as above. What about WP:COMMONSENSE. Are there individual articles on the storylines of say ... U2 videos? Phil Collins? What bout Metallica? If these large, international acts don't have them, then why should some singer who's barely notable to begin with have an article specifically on video storylines? Common sense. As I said, if you put this kind of effort into a real article, I'm sure it would come out well. Let me know how it turns out. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 19:49, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bot down[edit]

- any logs for me? Josh Parris 07:02, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That would be called "Windows Update has automatically updated your computer" ...*grumble Windows grumble* (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:40, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You can turn those off; or (somehow) make the program auto-start, like a service. Maybe with a batch file?
BTW, 1) in the FAQ is a terrible terrible lie. Josh Parris 12:32, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Changed #1 ... and I'm going to try and create a service to restart it automagically. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:35, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Quantitative Finance[edit]

You recently deleted the quantitative finance page, apparently because it was gratuitous advertising,

I am minded to have a go at reinstating it, since this is an area that I have an interest in, and given the vast number of references to the subject here, and in general, it ought really to be covered.

Any problems with that ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DominicConnor (talkcontribs) 14:53, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DominicConnor (talk) 14:53, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article as it was specifically related to a program of study at a university/college in Quantitative finance, and had nothing at all to do with what it is - as such, it was pure advertising. The article long ago used to redirect to Mathematical finance or something along those lines (there were some double redirects fixed at one point). So, have a look to see if the topic already exists - or is better off inside an existing article. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:30, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Omen (American band)[edit]

Why was the Omen (American band) page deleted? Hagfish13 (talk) 22:27, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Bwilkins, just letting you know that this has been taken care of at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion#omen (American band). Cheers, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 10:17, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No problem - cheers! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:52, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Curious[edit]

Hi! I'm curious as to why my talk page was deleted. I'm also curious as to how to edit the page to best fit within specifications of the site. I believe it belongs there as it is similar to other pages that are already up in nature ie other similar artists. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dubsintubs (talkcontribs) 03:33, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you're talking about Freedom Danish, the article was deleted as not meeting notability guidelines, especially those under WP:MUSIC. The talkpage of the article was deleted twice yesterday: once by an automated process because it was blanked, and second by someone else because the article was recreated for the second time. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:56, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GTA-NeXt Network[edit]

If you want to be an asshole and delete MY Wikipedia page that is about a website, then wht don't you delete Myspace, facebook, Gamespot, IGN, twitter, and any other website related afrticle? I swear it's a double-edged sword and that you choose to delete pages that you feel like. Get off your high-horse. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joker264 (talkcontribs)

Very nice. I'm always open for polite discussion about deletions. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:57, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks[edit]

This was nice, esp. after that article was deleted a third time. Drmies (talk) 19:06, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You mean I'm not an "asshole" and "on my high horse" (see above)?  ;-) I still have it set that when I welcome a user, I watchlist them as well ... I saw your post on the page, looked up their question, and figured a nice, gentle note was the right idea. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 19:10, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, no, you're a total asshole, of course! Hehe, yeah, I figured you'd have a watchlist that you actually follow up on. Incidentally, by following the model's trail I came across a rather obscure page, Help:Edit summary/feedback, which made for moderately interesting reading. Take care! Drmies (talk) 21:32, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And now I understand why you won't give User:Anusbrains a break! It's jealousy! Drmies (talk) 21:42, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
LOL ... yeah, that's the ticket! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 21:44, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed you deleting this; it was on my watchlist as I had also previously deleted. It's great to see you wield the mop; how are you liking being an admin? --John (talk) 02:54, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It certainly even more like being a janitor than people suggest...and yeah, you really need to be able to handle being called an "asshole" for performing even the clearest of deletions. So far, so good though - I think. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:12, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I noticed. Let me know if I can ever be any other help to you. --John (talk) 18:47, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Much appreciated! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 21:34, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Am I losing the plot.[edit]

  1. (Deletion log); 15:33 . . 7SeriesBOT (talk | contribs) deleted "Talk:Wilton Mill, Radcliffe" (Only one contributor who requested deletion under WP:CSD#G7)
  2. (Deletion log); 15:30 . . 7SeriesBOT (talk | contribs) deleted "Talk:Pilot Mill, Bury" (Only one contributor who requested deletion under WP:CSD#G7)

and others.

I have written about fifty similar articles and added nothing to the talk page. As far as I know they were empty- the bot is welcome to delete anything I haven't yet written but is this a false positive- or a further sign of mental degeneration?--ClemRutter (talk) 16:24, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Have you read the FAQ? Q. How did a blank page happen? Nobody edited it! Well, it's possible a BOT did (especially User:WildBot that checks for disambiguation and other issues)
From the logs for Wilton Mill, Radcliffe:
  • (diff) 10:33, 13 March 2010 . . WildBot (talk | contribs | block) (21 bytes) (No ambiguous links left; rather than leave the talk page blank, as only contributor WildBot is requesting deletion)
  • (diff) 20:01, 1 February 2010 . . WildBot (talk | contribs | block) (32 bytes) (Found ambiguous links to Radcliffe)
(talk→ BWilkins ←track) 17:10, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Harvey Taylor (deleted)[edit]

Well that was a pretty severe introduction to the wikipedia patrol team!

As a new user and first time poster Ii would have thought that you would want to engange with me and help me with creating a page, rather than instnatly treating me as a spammer who is wasting your time. I did try to put a "hang on" in the article and enge with the admins on the artlices talk page.

I hope I can retry the post for Harvey Taylor and that it is not locked out now? I do intend to start again and realise now that reserving the namespace is maybe not the way that I should be doing things, and the help text asks for offline pages to be created with editors helping the poster to prepare for going live.

I trust you would be able to help me with my article?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by HubertJFarnsworth (talkcontribs)

I'd love to help ... but I do not see anything remotely salvageable. Indeed, I go back to the original creation and it appears to be either autobiographical (contrary to WP:COI), or copied/pasted from some copyrighted source (a major violation). A quick Google search, and nothing jumps out at making this guy meet our notability standards. By the time a few other editors had actually cleared out the improper/illegal stuff, all I had to work with was "Harvey Taylor: Management Training, NLP, Coaching Specialist, Public Speaker, Writer and Hypnotherapist", which clearly could not remain. On top of that, it's a biography of a living person which means without valid 3rd party references, it's immediate removal. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 19:42, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have, however, created a "sandbox" for you to start in your personal userspace. As long as what you write there does not appear promotional, most admins will leave it alone until you ask them to help. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 19:46, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Thank you for the sandbox creation and I hope you will be available to review the piece when I get it shipshape. With regard to the notability of Mr Taylor, he is standing for Bournemouth West MP in the 2010 General Election, and like other candidates wanted a wikipedia entry. Added to this he is a local businessman who is popular in the community. As i previously stated, the article that i pasted in was nieve place holder and didn't realise it would trigger the automated warnings, and subsequent deletion, my bad! My removal of the offending pasting seemed to only upset further, and it was weirdly (to me) restored before my subsequent beration began. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HubertJFarnsworth (talkcontribs)

A mere candidate will almost never meet WP:POLITICIAN ... Wikipedia cannot be used to promote a political campaign. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 18:10, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jed Brandt[edit]

Please move-unprotect Jed Brandt so that Jed Brandt (activist) can be moved there. There is no need to disambiguate in this case as per MoS. Jed Brandt (activist)was recently kept after an AfD. Thanks!--Cerejota (talk) 20:27, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Done It's unprotected. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 20:31, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Weird issue with your bot[edit]

I recently just created Bridge of Flowers (bridge). I went to go add projects and I was met with this: "15:58, March 13, 2010 7SeriesBOT (talk | contribs) deleted "Talk:Bridge of Flowers (bridge)" ‎ (Only one contributor who requested deletion under WP:CSD#G7)" This is fine, but not only did I never even create the page, much less ask for its deletion, but your bot doesn't seem to have even edited in ten days. I'm going to let the page be for now and I will create it once you can figure out what is wrong here. Thanks. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 21:07, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You'll need to read the FAQ on the userpage. Another bot (WildBot) had tagged the talkpage with some disambig issues, once they were fixed, WildBot requested that the talkpage be deleted. 7Series then did as it was asked. You will not likely see many live edits for 7Series - almost all it does is delete things, and those are found in the logs (also available on the Bot's userpage). Feel free to edit the talkpage - as the FAQ says! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 21:27, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. What's worse is that I forgot about the whole cool disambigation link bot thing. Sorry about that. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 21:36, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No prob - cheers! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 21:37, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

7seriesbot[edit]

I just had my first experience with this bot. It's very helpful.. thanks for running it! ThemFromSpace 02:02, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for saying so! Cheers! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:14, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please explain why you deleted this page. I would like it restored asap. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.180.219.155 (talk) 17:10, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It was correctly tagged as a copyright violation of both http://americas.irc-online.org/am/4577 and http://ciponline.org/biographies.htm ... we do not allow articles with this kind of copyright violations to exist on Wikipedia, see WP:COPYRIGHT. Also, as a living person, there's extra strictness about references from third party, reliable sources. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 18:38, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I work for Laura Carlsen. there is no copyright violation here. We manage the SAmericas Program and are members of CIP. I am Michael Collins and my name is on both those bios too. I helped draft Laura's bio.
Please reload her page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.216.57.2 (talk) 03:45, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Then what we have is a massive violation of conflict of interest. If you're claiming you own copyright, WP:OTRS can be contacted, but if you are affiliated with the subject, you may not have a major contribution to an article. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:13, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

RE: blocked IP[edit]

Thanks for looking into this so quickly. You seem to be correct about there being no block on this IP as it appears that I am now able to edit again. All the best. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.24.96.78 (talk) 18:34, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bot down![edit]

Oh noes! Stack dump for me? Should we look at getting a watchdog? Josh Parris 11:34, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, this would be pretty easy to build; it would run just the same as 7SeriesBot, make the same decisions, and check to see if they'd been acted on 60s later. If not, send one email to each of the nominated addresses; repeat every... three... hours that this state persists for... two days. Actually, if it was just the same, it could blow up too. So a second design says "7SeriesBot should delete something every four hours. If not, then it's time to email people." Josh Parris 11:42, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
He seemed to have a token error. Maybe I should set him to run for only a certain number of hours, quit, then restart. He's been running straight for a few days with no problems! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:14, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If you have any available information, I can follow up. There shouldn't be any reason it can't run continuously; a few days really isn't all that good - WildBot will run for a week, and it's about 15/20 times more code (and thus places to break). Josh Parris 21:34, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Aldous Deletion[edit]

How come you deleted my Peter Aldous PPC for Waveney article an yet Great Yarmouth's Brandon Lewis article is quite alright to stay even though he is a PPC. Can i re write it in accordance with wiki please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.180.63.53 (talk) 20:58, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Although I cleaned Lewis up a bit, I have PROD'd it for deletion for the same reasoning. Thanks for pointing it out. Neither article had reliable, 3rd party WP:RS sources to backup any of the information. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:04, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is it my imagination, or is 7SeriesBot down?[edit]

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Strathmore_Automobile_Company&action=history has been up for deletion for 23 minutes, so I think bot-down. Josh Parris 04:26, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Same "invalid token u' ..." message. Odd. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:56, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The one mentioned in User_talk:Josh_Parris/archive5#Latest_hiccup? You're right, that is really weird. We definitely need a watchdog, because I can't explain that *at all*. There are two levels of "that can't happen" in there. Josh Parris 11:14, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Is there a way to code the bot to re-grab the token every so often, just for the heck of it? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:25, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'll look into that. It will take a couple of days, tomorrow's my wikibreak day. Josh Parris 11:41, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, I appreciate the extra work! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:42, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Enforced break[edit]

Well if standing up for myself against a censor will earn me an enforced break then so be it. I'm quite happy to have my contributions edited and rule breaking bits deleted or even sections deleted if they are not sourced but what John is doing is beyond that. We have an edit war over sourced material. I'm a newcomer here and I don't know all of wikipedia's rules yet but I know that sweeping deletions of the good with the bad are an abuse of power. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shieldsgeordie (talkcontribs) 21:22, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Ogone[edit]

I really do not understand why Ogone was deleted.


You need to know that Ogone is one of Europe's most succesfull payment service provider with more then 22.000 clients (over 35 airlines !) active in 35 countries around the globe. More then 50.000.000 transactions processed in 2009 resulted in having the Ogone payment page (in the merchants look & feel, but displaying the Ogone logo) as a trustfull environment for online shoppers ! Explain me then why http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adyen is live ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bever69 (talkcontribs) 13:56, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WP:RS, WP:N, WP:CORP, and WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS ? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:29, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Interaction Ban[edit]

I think your suggestion of an interaction ban between myself and SRQ is an excellent idea. May I kindly ask how one implements/requests that ban? Thank you.DocOfSoc (talk) 06:01, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GoRight[edit]

This appears to be disruptive and pointy behavior - I note that User_talk:GoRight#Unblocking_conditions specifically warned against this sort of behavior. Ncmvocalist (talk) 10:06, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree - have noted it on their talkpage. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:15, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If you liked that, you'll love this, this and this. -- samj inout 16:15, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
What business is this of yours? Please MYOB. --GoRight (talk) 19:39, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You jumped in and attempted to derail three debates I was involved in today by attacking the people who filed them (along with those who questioned you for doing so) which is undoubtedly "disruptive and pointy behavior". If you weren't so abrasive when others try to give you good advice then you would no doubt find yourself getting a lot less unwanted attention, but you are, so your fellow editors are drawing your unblocking admin's attention to edits which we believe contravene your conditional unblock. -- samj inout 23:43, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I apologize, I seem to have been unclear and somehow confused you. Please let me rephrase my question. Why were you posting comments at any of those discussions in the first place? You do not seem to be an involved (i.e. originating) party. Please MYOB. Further, I did not attempt to derail anything. I on the matter being discussed, as did you, which is in no way violating my agreed editing restrictions. --GoRight (talk) 02:11, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That's the second time you have called me "confused" in the space of a few hours, and both times I found it rather uncivilised (which is a violation of your agreed editing restrictions). In any case I am free to comment on what I like and don't appreciate being told to "MYOB" by an editor who is very close to being subject to a last resort MYOB restriction of his own. On the subject of you "merely express[ing your] opinion in a succinct manner", is there any reason why you completely ignored an arbitrator's request for you to remove or strike "most" of your >500 word pointy, off-topic diatribe? This seems to follow a pattern of disruptive editing today. -- samj inout 05:47, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"... is there any reason why you completely ignored an arbitrator's request for you to remove or strike "most" of your >500 word pointy, off-topic diatribe?" - I'm sorry, but you seem to be under a mistaken impression about whom the arbitrator was addressing. They were making a request of a clerk, not me, and if the clerk in question makes a request of me I shall take appropriate action as I am sure others there will as well. You seem to also be mistaken about the timestamps involved. I had not ignored anything. I was not aware of that comment from the arbitrator until I read your reference here. If a clerk feels my comment is off topic I am quite confident that they will inform me of that fact or take action on their own. Thank you. Hope this clears things up. Have a nice day. --GoRight (talk) 06:21, 21 March 2010 (UTC) Stricken because I have now refactored my comment per Carcharoth's request.[reply]

Per [9], I have stricken and collapsed my comment at WP:AN (see [10] and [11]). I trust that this will satisfy your concerns with that edit.

I do, however, stand by my assessment that the way to address the current disruption on WP:AN as represented by that entire thread is to:

(a) Issue MYOB sanctions for Ncmvocalist who has a long history injecting themselves into other people's disputes. That thread is just another example of that. Since injecting oneself into other's disputes seems to be an area of concern of late, might we not ask what concern it is of Ncmvocalist what Abd does, or does not do, and why are they suggesting sanctions against him? He has played no role in the entire affair until now.
And, (b) restrict Enric from pursuing his personal vendetta against Abd. If you doubt a vendetta exists I can dig up lots of diffs over a long period of time to convince you. YMMV but my speaking my piece does not contradict my unblocking sanctions or agreement.

If you still have concerns please let me know so that I can address them to your satisfaction. Thanks. --GoRight (talk) 19:39, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

your decline block of mbz1[edit]

I fully support Mbz1 and believe she is being unfairly treated here at wiki. I thought your reasoning was particularly inappropriate, especially this :"you jammed the page full of images to either show how much we'll miss you, or how important you must be." I found that uniquely inappropriate. Someone has contributed her work freely to wiki and that's the thanks she gets? An administrator who belittles her and makes inappropriate comments about her motivations? You claim her activities on her talkpage were disruptive because she removed block requests but she was unaware that such removal was against policy. You claimed she soaped but did not bother to offer any examples. Finally you are suggesting that she has to apologize though you don't say to who or what for. I am thoroughly shocked but all I can say is that I think your behavior here was unbecoming to an administrator. If you had taken some time you might have seen that she was being hounded but instead of being sympathetic to that you chose to jump on as well. Stellarkid (talk) 16:48, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, fantastic - point out my apparent incivility with a whack of your own, without even a chance to reply. Have a great day! I think the editor has their own ability to re-request review from another admin, and honestly this didn't help her case. I am always more willing to discuss my reasoning directly with the editor without 3rd party attacks, thanks. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:27, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy notice[edit]

I decided to take your comments on the decline notice (see section immediately above) to Wiki Etiquette alerts for the opinion of the community. You will find it here. Stellarkid (talk) 19:34, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Given that
  • part of the unblock comment seems (uncharacteristically) incivil
  • your status above indicates you will be away and unable to discuss for some time period, I've edited the remark. Obviously you can restore and we can discuss further when you get back. Gerardw (talk) 22:10, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Just to let you know, the WQA was closed and archived recently. Discussions may continue on talk pages as appropriate however. Happy editing to you, --Taelus (talk) 18:05, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Bwilkins, When you are back, and when you have a time, may I please ask you to take a look at my response to your decline reason here? I am not going to rise any concerns that were discussed above, and with which I fully agree. The only thing I would like to ask you is to explain to me please what edits of mine at my own talk page you considered to be wp:soap. I would like to learn what I have done wrong, if anything of course, in order do not repeat the same mistakes in the feature. Best wishes.--Mbz1 (talk) 20:33, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Commented back on your talk, Mbz1. Keep up the good work. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:28, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

email[edit]

Sorry for the duplicate. Prodego talk 06:22, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No issues - better double notification than no notification (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:23, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

7SeriesBOT[edit]

...seems to be down. I was wondering why I was spending so much time deleting talk pages for WildBot, and thinking there should be a better way; I have only just realised that there is. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 22:38, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Funny, it seemed to stay up well for the time I was away...odd that it craps out after I return! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:22, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I wonder if it would make sense having this bot cloned? What OS does it run on? Have you (or the writer-is it someone else?) considered extending it to U1 deletion requests (where user is only author and page was never moved?) –xenotalk 15:24, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's Pywiki ... think it's time to add U1 to the BFRA as a new task? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:31, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I floated the idea here: Wikipedia:VPR#Ability to delete one's own user pages. –xenotalk 15:34, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have added it as a suggested new task on the BRFA page. Thanks for the suggestion. Overall, it's working well - with only a handful of start/stop glitches. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:32, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

[12]. --GoRight (talk) 02:03, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

At this point, I feel that a greater community discussion is warranted concerning GoRight's editing behavior. I have started a discussion here.[13] As a possible interested party, your input would be appreciated. Thanks. Trusilver 01:22, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
As I was neutral from the start, I think I'll keep myself that way ... (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:23, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Someone is starting a thread on ANI on Joker264 (talk · contribs) (picked this up here, SuperHappyPerson (talk · contribs) and Lời chào và lời chào (talk · contribs), it looks to me as though all 3 may be socks, clearly none are new editors. Dougweller (talk) 21:48, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting, thanks for the heads up ... I'll monitor as well. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:06, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You suck[edit]

You suck at everything. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AceOfClovers2 (talkcontribs) 17:47, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How kind. Sorry for having declined your unblock from your first account, but based on the contributions from this sock, it appears to have been the correct choice. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 18:12, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The number of snide retorts has forced me to post something. I'll not use any of them but I can't stop laughing inside. Padillah (talk) 15:11, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yikes, I'm not trying to be snide :-0 (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:16, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry, I meant the number of retorts that I could think of. All delivered with a snide, holier-than-thou attitude of someone that is seriously jerking your chain. :) Sory for the confusion. FWIW, this talk page is the funniest thing I've read in quite some time. Padillah (talk) 15:25, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

what is your criteria for some desperate 'speedy' deletion of my bio- none of which you can disprove?[edit]

and meanwhile you want people to be polite to you when you've failed to determine by even asking the party about their bio? any petty tyrannies in which you engage will follow you. The patholigical retaliation that you exhibited against my bio is very NSA or some other peasant/brown shirt/jack boot maniacal sort that feels like they've got to be mayberry police where they haven't got a right. At this point anything now to which you put your hands will follow with problems for yourself. You have no right for a petty, rail-roading act given the element of public domain that wiki alleges to serve, nor against myself, a candidate in a federal public presidential campaign.

And given the amount of harassment I endure, nothing would surprise me in that your way demonstrates some again, sort of desperate fear rooted and violent conduct against written word against which you have no proof, then the same sort of policing only worse will go after you and that to which you put your hands. Feel "threatened"? I didnt retaliate against you or your 'blogs', or even hunt down your little policings and delete what's in the public domain. So where's your little badge that gives you some ruminated fancy for tyrannies on public turf against which you have nothing to refute.


Andrea Psoras —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.237.200.196 (talk) 03:22, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, as I always say, I'm always willing to undelete based on an intelligent discussion on something I might have missed. Maybe the notability was hidden, or the 3rd party reliable sources were better than my research. Maybe I misinterpreted WP:AUTOBIO, or even the the biography of living persons policy. Of course, you would actually have to tell me which article you're talking about. Unfortunately I delete so many "Mary is smelly" articles each day, that I just cannot memorize all of the others. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 08:42, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Request for feedback[edit]

Hello, i have written a draft article on proactive policing which is here. Any feedback on my talk page would be very much appreciated. Thank you YouAndMeBabyAintNothingButCamels (talk) 05:44, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

New messages at WP:BRFA[edit]

Hello, DangerousPanda. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/7SeriesBOT 2.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
- Kingpin13 (talk) 15:34, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

7SeriesBOT[edit]

Hi,
a page I just restored was immediately re-deleted by 7SeriesBOT since, strictly speaking, all criteria it's been trimmed to look for were still true. It's of course a bit stupid that I have to race to remove the speedy tag before the bot starts a new round of deletions.
Could you teach the bot to also check the page's deletion log and see whether the page was undeleted since the latest revision to the page? The more trivial solution would be to just delay deletions for a short while, but that wouldn't be as convenient since then admins are more likely to pick the pages up in CAT:CSD.
Cheers, Amalthea 16:53, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why not just restore the version of the page just prior to the original application of the CSD tag? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:31, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Heh, yes, that'll work. :) I tend to prefer restoring all revisions rather than leaving some revisions undeleted due to complications with subsequent page moves or (un)deletions, but in the narrow field 7SeriesBOT currently deletes that should hardly ever be a problem.
Well, nonetheless, I think that lots of other people will by default undelete all revisions and manually remove the deletion template afterwards. If you're ever in the mood you can think about making it smarter, should be extremely easy to do so. Or, seeing that you didn't code it yourself, if you provide me with the source code I'm sure I could make the modification for you.
Cheers, Amalthea 13:42, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to get in the middle of the conversation, but maybe the bot could remove the CSD tag in such cases. Btw, we can discuss this in Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/7SeriesBOT_2#7SeriesBOT_2. --JokerXtreme (talk) 23:19, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nathan Fairhurst article.[edit]

Hi,

I recently submitted an article on the professional Footballer Nathan Fairhurst, which was referenced and was all my own work. Just wondered why it has been deleted, and how I can get it back up live.

Thanks

Rob Clarke (Wrexham lager) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wrexham lager (talkcontribs) 12:25, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Replied on your talkpage in this specific case. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:29, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fairhurst article.[edit]

I am no relation, just a fan of Wrexham Football Club - who ARE a fully professional football club in the 5th tier of the English Football pyramid (check their Wiki page or official website and this will confirm this!)

Fairhurst is a professional footballer therefore I feel this article deserves to be included on here. If it isnt it then it makes a mockery of the whole football archive of this site.

Rob Clarke

username - Wrexham Lager —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wrexham lager (talkcontribs) 12:36, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, sorry to jump in. The club is professional, but the league they play in is not fully-professional as per the criteria at WP:ATHLETE. This is due to there being a number of part-time team in the Conference National league. Cheers, --Jimbo[online] 12:38, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ajay Singhaniya[edit]

I noticed you deleted an article with this name, however strange thing are appearing in the things you can do section here —Preceding unsigned comment added by Superp (talkcontribs) 14:24, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Attempted a fix for above problem. Superp (talk) 15:38, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hey![edit]

How can i find out what can be included and what can't be included on here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Letgoreject12 (talkcontribs) 15:36, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I replied with a nice bunch of links on your talkpage (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:35, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Indefinite IP blocks[edit]

Can I ask why you have blocked this IP indefinitely? It's generally a bad idea to block IPs indefinitely. Perhaps a "shorter" block such as six months would be more appropriate? --Deskana (talk) 11:04, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Normally, I concur. If you check the talkpage, you'll see that they originally were blocked for 3 months for vandalism. I increased it due to a threat of physical violence against a user, and a directed religious attack (the links are available on their talkpage). This school-based editor therefore has some serious 'splainin' to do - I consider death threats and religious attacks to be on the serious end of things. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:08, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I agree completely, a long block is needed. But still, there's a reason that indefinite blocks of IPs are bad, especially since the IP is shared. Perhaps a year block then? Maybe the person will be gone from the school in a year, or would have moved on. A year is a long time but it's not as long as forever. :-) --Deskana (talk) 11:13, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
To be honest, I figured if they psychologically saw "Indefinite", they would be more willing to re-think the seriousness of their actions. "1 year" was not going to have the same emotional effect. Consider this: a teacher from the same school tries to edit anonymously: they see that the account was blocked indef for threats, and have a short glance at the talkpage - someone's going to ask questions. I was planning to monitor, and reconsider after seeing the response/action in the short term ... (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:19, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Loqqad[edit]

Hi -

I see that you speedied the Loqqad page even though it was marked {{hangon}}. I spoke with the page creator in IRC yesterday and he was looking for citations for notability. I agree that the page was unlikely to meet notability criteria and probably would have been deleted anyway, but the page author was trying in good faith to satisfy the notability criteria, and I think it's unfortunate to have speedied the page before giving him enough time to see it through. Please consider giving {{hangon}} pages a little more leeway in the future. Thanks. Tim Pierce (talk) 13:39, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree - and I read carefully the editor's attempts to source. I even tried to research myself with no success. I'm always happy to userfy if politely requested, but I also saw little there that could not be recreated in their own sandbox. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 13:48, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Article : Nathaniel Adam Briggs[edit]

There seems to be have been no procedural review of the article, Nathaniel Adam Briggs, and instead an opinion used to define the exclusion of a notable human. I respectfully request that the article be recovered/republished for a wider consideration of the editing community. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DesignerHuman (talkcontribs) 15:10, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, by "procedural review", one person three people did read it, research it, and find it non-notable and tag it as such. I then read, checked references, and agreed - which led to its deletion. I am always happy to let it go through an WP:AFD, but you might not like the results. Are you sure? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:23, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I would prefer this be reviewed a bit more. I kept the article brief as I am new to Wikipedia. If it would be ideal to post a complete article, meaning with a great deal more "notability" / content relative to such, then I can do that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DesignerHuman (talkcontribs) 18:08, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
As long as you have read WP:N ... be prepared for the onslaught :-) (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 18:23, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
are you gaining joy from this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DesignerHuman (talkcontribs) 15:03, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
the Wiki contribution experience should be far more inviting for people. I welcome the discussion, and "onslaught". Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DesignerHuman (talkcontribs) 15:06, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome to post here politely, so remember that. I advised you that the individual was not notable as per Wikipedia standards. Even still, you asked for a more complete deletion review - so I did what you asked. Everyone does have something to add to Wikipedia, but I fear that you will find that much of the community has less patience than I do in many ways. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:16, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A test of your infinite knowledge[edit]

What is our stand on refactoring talkpage comments? I've got an anon over at Talk:Breast that is doing valid cleanup but they are cleaning up other users comments. I reverted once and left a note on their talkpage but I'm not sure I should keep pusing or not. Padillah (talk) 16:36, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Guess that answers that. Thanks. Padillah (talk) 16:41, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
(ec) Although WP:REFACTOR is not official, its intent is...as is the {{uw-tpv3}} that I added to the user's talkpage. Let me know if I need to follow up ... (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:42, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

BAGBot: Your bot request 7SeriesBOT 2[edit]

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Replied there, cheers! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:31, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

hello[edit]

WHY WAS THE JONATHAN BORRERO ARTICLE DELETED?HE IS CERTAINLY A NOTABLE AMERICAN ATHLETE.SOME OF THE LINKS ON THAT ARTICLE WERE FROM WIKIPEDIA,AS WELL AS OTHER NOTABLE WEBSITES.I HAVE SEEN MANY LESS NOTABLE ATHLETES WITH WIKIPEDIA PAGES.SUCH AS MANY PLAYERS FROM THE UFL WHICH IS AN UPSTART FOOTBALL LEAGUE. THANKS, ROLANDA DEMARCO —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.144.156.55 (talk) 01:53, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:ATHLETE...and please stop yelling. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:22, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bill Wuytz page deletion without reason![edit]

Hello, you have deleted the article on Bill Wuytz, I would like to knwo why. Just google on internet and you will see that you can find him quite easily, it is a notable person. Thanks for the answer. Kind regards, Giorgio —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tuleggi (talkcontribs) 07:59, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

...and how exactly did he meet WP:N? What makes him notable? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:04, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse Me?[edit]

You deleted my article "Elsie Simonofsky" without any respect for the proper procedure. You didn't even follow the proper protocol for speedy deletion. Restore my article and go through the proper procedure for challenging an article, which you should know, or I will report you to the appropriate authorities. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gold1618 (talkcontribs) 11:04, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Although you do not have any articles, the article that you created and gave to Wikipedia met no requirements for notability - at at least none that were asserted. I fail to see how I failed to meet any "protocol" as such. If you want it userfied so that you can work on it, empty threats won't do it. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:29, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I agree with you when you say that it isn't my article. I see no point in contributing to wikipedia if the work I put in isn't intended as contribution so that everyone may benefit. But enough philosophy for the time being. I don't know why you think my assertion that I will take action is an "empty threat." I also don't see how my defending my honest work is rude. It is rude to delete someone's honest work without warning, and it's against wikipedia policy as well. We are supposed to begin a discussion on removal of an article (if it's not clearly a hoax or advertisement or something scandalous like that) before we may take such a dramatic action. I do happen to have a pretty good reason for writing that article- which, yes, was still in the works (as all articles of all sizes are)- but how can you know what my reasons were if you don't bother to give the contributors a chance to provide those reasons. That being said, perhaps the information I provided did not need its own article and should have been combined with the article for her husband, William Chomsky. Unfortunately, I do not have a copy of what I wrote and I would like to be able to retrieve it. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gold1618 (talkcontribs) 03:23, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, you misunderstand WP:DELETE, and most especially the criteria for speedy deletion. If notability is not established, the article can be CSD'd without notice - this is not my policy, or even my interpretation of the policy: it's policy (indeed, all of the moving around and improper titling of the article drew a lot of attention). Someone does not, for example, gain notability by being married to someone who is notable. Care to explain the "pretty good reason" you have for writing it? Does this sound familiar:

(talk→ BWilkins ←track) 08:49, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Her son, Noam Chomsky, voted the #1 Public Intellectual in 2005, was the most cited living person for eight years in the late eighties and early nineties, revolutionized the field of linguistics- and I mean revolutionized it- and is probably the best known and respected activist in the world. People wishing to understand Chomsky, as I imagine many people must, might wish to know about his childhood, who his parents were, that sort of thing.

Now, Elsie herself did indeed do something notable. Her work had a visible impact on Jewish education in the United States. She also, in a big way, coauthored William's textbooks, which made him prominent- that is to say, he wrote the information and she devised the all of the work for the students. For this reason, and because I need to do more research on her, I now think it more appropriate to add her information to William's page rather than give her one of her own. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gold1618 (talkcontribs) 04:11, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As I expect the onslaught, let's keep it in one place. Rudeness, yelling, etc will be removed. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:32, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You think that there was sufficient consensus to unilaterally decide for merger?--Drrll (talk) 23:00, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Why does the archive page not contain my comments and some other comments? This is the diff. Please make the archive discussion reflect all comments prior to the close of the discussion.
  • I agree with Drrll. There were no proposal to merge and no consensus to merge. What WP:AFD process authorizes this decision? If you were an advocate of a merge you should have participated in the discussion on parity with non-administrator editors. As administrator you do not not have a supervote. patsw (talk) 23:40, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, there was a proposal to merge. As well, if I had actually !voted, I would have been ineligible to close the AfD. I re and re-read the entire discussion. There was definitely significant consensus to delete, but I believe based on the reading that even delete !voters saw merit to some of the information included. As such, see MBisanz noted about WP:PRESERVE. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:01, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have no explanation why your comments inexplicably disappeared - are you suggesting that I intentionally removed them? To what end? You are welcome to add them to the archive, with an link to the original posting of them. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:12, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • While I nominated the article for deletion, I agree with Bwilkin's close as it falls on the continuum from deletion to inclusion that most cogently complies with WP:PRESERVE. Good jobs. MBisanz talk 00:40, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Bulgarian painters: 38 names only??? Criteria?[edit]

Hi, I strongly object to your deletion of DIKIDJIEVA, Vassilina - VASSA from Category:Bulgarian painters recently on lack of Notoriety. As I pointed out there are names in the ridiculously short list of 38 names (?!? go check BG W. What -if any- criteria for such a list?) which are self-promoting and far less notable, such as Vidolovska (soft eroti-Kitsch) and Houben R. Please could you restore my article, i promise to provide some more support in a week or two. Thx, rgds, Ecce Nemo NoBody tlk 13:56, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Being co-winner of second place is the claim of notability? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 18:22, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion converted to PROD: Pezzettino[edit]

Did you bother to read the note I attached to the speedy deletion template? Pezzettino was speedily deleted once, and Orangesquiggles recreated it. See: this and this That's not legit, is it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.2.209.226 (talk) 14:10, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If it's been recreated more than once, then it needs to be escalated to a different level. Even G4 doesn't count if it has not been through proper discussion. Clearly, it's a contested deletion and you cannot keep speedying it. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 17:22, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Read, and read carefully. You really need to pay attention to what you're doing and to what you claim others are doing. I do not "keep speedying it." It was speedily deleted once by someone else, recreated by the original editor once, and then I requested a speedy delete, based on the reasoning of the first administrator. Sheesh! The inconsistencies in the administration of WP give me the heebeejeebees! 75.2.209.226 (talk) 17:51, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Your turn to read, and read carefully: I never said that you kept speedying it (grammatical use of "you" can be challenging). I read quite well thank you. Requesting speedy based on the reasoning of the first admin will generally fail. Please read WP:DELETE. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:43, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Some helpful advice :)[edit]

Look shithead, why the fuck did you delete my redirects—clit rock and butt rock? They are perfectly synonymous with the names of the articles they redirected to. Of course, you must be one of those musically ignorant philistine faggots who seem to crawl all over the Internet.

Tell you what, I'll give you some helpful on how not to be such a retarded poof:

  1. Find a way to go back in time.
  2. Go back to the year when you were an infant.
  3. Go to the house you grew up in.
  4. Tell you bitch-ass mother to not keep dropping you on your head. Tell that ho that because of her, you magically developed symptoms of Down's Syndrome as you grew older. So much so that these you have to become a mindless vanda-fight admin-gnome on Wikipedia cause that's the only productive thing you can do.

I hope you don't take this the wrong way. I'm just trying to help somebody with far less mental facility than I. Best of luck with your future, and remember that thanks to medical advances Down's syndrome patients are slowly getting integrated into normal society. So there's hope for you yet :)R0CKTS4R (talk) 11:53, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations! Your request to be blocked for harassment and extreme violations of WP:NPA has been granted! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:06, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
“Meddle not in the affairs of the dragon; for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.” Josh Parris 14:54, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Archive time[edit]

It's time to turn up the archive rate here. 117 threads is... too many. Josh Parris 14:56, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree ... but Mizabot seems to be ignoring me ... (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:07, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of my article[edit]

I recently had an article I wrote deleted and would like a chance to rewrite the article. This was my first article and now that i have learned more about the writing guidelines I would like to try writing the article again. Question is if I rewrite it with more research and more extensive sources and will it just be deleted again because of the topic? I am disappointed my article was deleted within a matter of hours without having the chance to make substantial changes and would like some assistance. I worked hard on the first one and would like to be able to contribute knowledge and work to wikipedia. Thank you for your assistance. Kellybeth00 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kellybeth00 (talkcontribs) 15:36, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kellybeth. I don't know which article it is that you're talking about, but I will give you a few tips. First, Wikipedia is WP:NOTDIRECTORY (i.e. it's not the YellowPages). It is vital that, for example, any company or subject has notability that is verifiable through third party reliable sources. Most companies, as an example, will fail to meet these requirements. Also ensure that the article does not read as a promotional piece. This means beware of WP:PUFFERY. Any reference that actually refers to either the company's own website, or to a direct client is no good as they are not 3rd party. My final piece of advice - for now - is conflict of interest. If you have any relationship to a subject or organization, do not write about them. Feel free to ask more questions! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:45, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the advice. Can I do some more extensive research and rewrite? Kellybeth00 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kellybeth00 (talkcontribs)

I see no reason not to ... just keep the key requirements of Wikipedia in mind throughout... might be good to create a userspace draft, and have someone take a look every now and then (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 14:42, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Re the Limbaugh Jargon article[edit]

Following the AfD result, I have been trimming down the Jargon article in preparation for merging it into The Rush Limbaugh Show. I think it is now in a state where it can be merged without completely overwhelming the target article (more could probably be done, but I can leave that to the regular editors at the target). However, I am hesitant to actually carry out the merger as long as there is an open deletion review. Should I wait, or go ahead with the merger? What is the protocol here? Blueboar (talk) 17:08, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest waiting the few days until the DRV is closed, per WP:Guide to deletion#You may edit the article during the discussion. Flatscan (talk) 04:18, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

your name's initials[edit]

is it true your initials are bmw? do you live in ottawa ontario canada? contact by msn blackeyedsusies@live.ca i'll talk to u there bmw. sass. April 14, 2010 @ 5:38am —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.112.55.48 (talk) 09:39, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Are you still online[edit]

I really don't think blocking Neelix without talking first was a good idea. To try to prevent pissing off a valuable contributor, i want to unblock. If you're still around, I'd like your opinion. --Floquenbeam (talk) 13:40, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've unblocked, and asked him to explain the redirects. --Floquenbeam (talk) 13:56, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Acknowledged - as per the block notice and log, the possibility of automated edits and/or compromised accounts was conerning. The issue surrounding content was another matter completely, and was not deciding feature. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 14:17, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

help!!!!![edit]

Hello! I was just wondering if you could give me some guidance on how i could improve my sprice.com write up. I actually tried to keep it as neutral as possible. I did have some problems citing references, so I know i need to go read up on how to format that one. Thanks very much for your kind help! Jacintampaul (talk) 15:32, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That Account[edit]

Can you please unblock User:60.242.166.182? I was not sockpuppeting by editing from User:60.242.166.182 recently. I didn't know the password to User:A1DF67 so I didn't and couldn't login to it so I was editing in Wikipedia without logging in to any account. See User talk:Jpgordon/Archive 5#Accounts, User talk:An Unknown Person, and User talk:Od Mishehu#My Password. It was not sockpuppetry! Please do not misunderstand me!

A1DF67 (talk) 04:25, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Talk: Joseph Peabody[edit]

Can you tell me why User:7SeriesBOT deleted the talk page for Joseph Peabody at the request of one user? Instead of deleting a particular topic? Seems like an unneeded step that forces others to recreate the biography page header, etc., from scratch. -- btphelps (talk) (contribs) 21:37, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As you read from the FAQ, 7SeriesBOT only deletes blank pages: if there had been biography page headers, etc then WildBot would not have tagged it for deletion. I can confirm that this is the case, looking at the history:
  • 12:53, 14 April 2010 7SeriesBOT (talk | contribs | block) deleted "Talk:Joseph Peabody" ‎ (Only one contributor who requested deletion under WP:CSD#G7) (view/restore)
  • (diff) 12:52, 14 April 2010 . . WildBot (talk | contribs | block) (21 bytes) (No ambiguous links left; rather than leave the talk page blank, as only contributor WildBot is requesting deletion)
  • (diff) 00:59, 14 April 2010 . . WildBot (talk | contribs | block) (67 bytes) (Found ambiguous links to second officer)
Both WildBot and 7SeriesBOT acted as per their design, and nobody has to take any "unneeded steps" (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 08:54, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Mark me clueless or uneducated in the ways of Wiki, but why would a bot delete a blank page? -- btphelps (talk) (contribs) 20:16, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You've read the bot's FAQ, right? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 21:36, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

send me copy of my deleted article[edit]

please send me a copy of my deleted article (it needs to be re-written).

Thanks.

Mofoq (talk) 20:34, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What's your relationship with/to User:FarrisonHord? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 21:35, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Soliciting Bwilkins' Help[edit]

I hope you do not mind. I found you by chance, and you are apparently wise in the world of wiki. I am sort of new, and interested in developing articles on people I am interested in. Anyways, I wanted to start this page about this artist Ed Giecek - and after User:TheRealFennShysa asked me to, I even noted several sources as references with "significant coverage listed from independent third-party sources included." But, again they are threatening to take it off again. This guy Ed Giecek is an important artist, and his daughter is this singer and activist that I really like. She sings with the Deftones. And, her father seems to be all over the place. I found him on so many websites as an artist. What makes him famous enough or not, and why does wiki think the references are "poorly sourced?" I found the sources from many places, including art galleries. I find the Talk:Ed Giecek to be offensive, and it seems to discourage someone like me from even trying. And I really have tried. Please give your advice. Thank you. User talk:Solutionhead Solutionhead (talk) 21:15, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I honestly see nothing that makes he notable ... there's hundreds of thousands of published artists/photog's, but I see nothing that makes this guy worthy of an article, IMHO. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 14:19, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for taking the time. I think Ed Giecek meets the requirements for notability, because his art work is in museums, and yes, published, and I found his name on thousands of internet sites. I thoroughly read notable, and maybe I am missing something... but it seems this artist meets the requirements. Thank you so much for taking the time. Solutionhead (talk) 02:08, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Speedy deletion declined: Walter Kaner[edit]

well, i saw the criteria for speed deletion, and having looked not just at the number of contributions, but at their actual content, i saw that actually no real changes or added information was present: they were just adding of categories, templates, links, and some small rephrasing. Still, since i haven't contributed much to en.wiki (i come from it.wiki), if you say that the text does not fulfill speed deletion criteria, i believe you. Do you think is more appropriate to tag the "unmodified" paragraphs as copyviol? Lucha (talk) 16:29, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why not just re-write it a bit and clean it up? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:33, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you delete my article?[edit]

Why did you delete my article on Popstation? More importantly, what more proof do i have to give for it to be good enough for a wikipedia article? i have tried looking everywhere on Google for other sites who know about Popstation.com, the only results i get when typing in Popstation are about some dumb gaming console named "Pop Station" or P station or whatever the heck it's called. No other site out there on the internet knows about Popstation.com, so it shouldn't be deleted. Morts623 (talk) 07:04, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You have answered your own question: the fact that you cannot find reliable, third party sources anywhere to support the importance is de facto proof that Wikipedia should not have an article. This project is not the Yellow Pages, it's an encyclopedia of actual knowledge. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:34, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jbolden1517[edit]

I've got to say that I'm shocked that Jbolden1517 was allowed to return. Does it mean nothing that as recently as a week ago he was still breathing threats over at Wikipedia Review? Eugene (talk) 13:37, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As we can never verify who's who on Wikipedia Review as it's not part of Wikipedia, it's always a challenging situation. I will, however, recommend that the two of you remain distant from each other ... (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 13:49, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please take a look at this situation. I've asked them twice now to stop deleting the CSD template and told them to please use the {{hangon}} template instead. They don't appear to be listening. Padillah (talk) 20:31, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In case you were wondering...[14] Padillah (talk) 11:53, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've seen it ... and see that there's now more than one set of eyes involved. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 14:10, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Indiavision rises from the dead yet again[edit]

Similar versions of the article on Indiavision have been previously speedy (and other?) deleted, primarily as spam. See [15], [16], and [17].

Also, the user, and one IP address, has been blocked. See [18].

I documented this on the article's talk page and am merely passing this on to an admin for oversight. I'll put this on the blocking admin's talk page (User:YellowMonkey) as well. No reply needed. -Quartermaster (talk) 12:59, 21 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nice Buns![edit]

One for the bot
One for the owner








..erm, I mean Bot! :-o

Best wishes. --Haruth (talk) 17:13, 21 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 18:28, 21 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

NH[edit]

He's still getting at least another 12 hours off, but if you feel he's genuinely learned, then I won't have a problem with you unblocking him. DS (talk) 22:49, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi[edit]

For some reason I remebered that you provide copies of deleted articles. I see you don't, can you please refer me to someone who can do it? Regards--Gilisa (talk) 06:33, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I will in most situations ... which ones were you thinking of? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:01, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it's not exactly an article...It's an RfC that was deleted very shortly after the admin gave his comment. I don't remeber exactly when the RfC was closed or opened because I can't find any diffs, obviously. So,can anything be done?--Gilisa (talk) 07:36, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'd need more details to try and find it. Normally we don't undelete RFC's ... (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:47, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ho ok, I need it to appeal against community decision that was proposed by admin George William Herbert. The RfC was opened and closed on March (I believe that the end of it). GWH is the one whose comment was requested, me and Mbz1 were those who request the comment. Regards--Gilisa (talk) 17:42, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm, procedurally, it was closed and deleted correctly. I cannot see how anything good can come out of userfying it or undeleting it in any way ... this really appears to be one of those "put it down, and walk away" situations. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 17:53, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not suggesting that it was closed improperly. Look, as far as I know, I have the right to appeal, and I intend to use many different diffs to make my points clear. Among them, the RfC is only one (part of it actually). So, can you provide it after all? --Gilisa (talk) 18:41, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
...but an uncertified RFC never existed, and its diff's can't be used for any purpose whatsoever. Show me where the proposal is ... (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 18:46, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Press TV controversies[edit]

you deleted the page "Talk:Press TV controversies" that is a talk page, not a main article. how does one discuss issues on content of the page without the talk page? sure if need be remove a post that maybe inappropriate but articles come with their requisite talk pages in order to prevent warring. Not sure why this was removed? Lihaas (talk) 10:20, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Have you read the FAQ? The page was blank - there was no discussion on it yet. I see that you have started one, that's good - it won't likely be deleted...at least not by a bot (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:53, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Redirecting Pages[edit]

User:A1DF67 has been renamed User:Bowei Huang 2. [19] Can you please redirect User:Bowei Huang to User:Bowei Huang 2 and User talk:Bowei Huang to User talk:Bowei Huang 2?

Bowei Huang 2 (talk) 06:33, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

U.S.-Azerbaijan Chamber of Commerce[edit]

Hello there, why is U.S.-Azerbaijan Chamber of Commerce page being deleted? Tuscumbia (talk) 13:41, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You'll note that the article is not being deleted, a blank talkpage was already deleted. See User:7SeriesBOT#FAQ. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 14:35, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
OK. Grazie! Tuscumbia (talk) 14:55, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

mentorship[edit]

Please note my offer regarding CharlieJS13 here. He actually seemed to have learned part of his lesson during his third block (note that he didn't take off changing the credits again), so I'm willing to believe that he is educable. That doesn't keep me from being nervous about unblocking him.—Kww(talk) 14:51, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, nervousness aside, if you can guide him away from the dark side, then we all gain. Good luck! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:42, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback[edit]

Hello, DangerousPanda. You have new messages at Ahmed shahi's talk page.
Message added 11:31, 27 April 2010 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.[reply]

As you commented on the unblock request, I thought I would contact you as I have reviewed the scenario and believe that full protection may be a good alternative action here, as there seem to be issues between an IP and other users even after this edit warring block. I may be missing context though, thus I would appreciate your comment. Thanks for your time Taelus (talk) 11:31, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Just a question.[edit]

Hello Bwilkins! I hope you are having a nice weekend. I feel sorry to interomp you, but since you had made a comment on my talk page where you were explaining to me that the expression, as you put it in my talk page, "kiss your sorry ass good-bye", quite similar to the ones that I receved on my talk page from User:AlasdairGreen27, namely "kiss your sorry ass goodbye", and "I will drag your sorry ass" are not a violation of WP:NPA because, you said that it was I that had to beleve that you beleve... sorry, I couldn´t get it... Here [20] is your comment in the context of my block that happend just after I made a ANI report about a user that told me that on my talk page [21]. I am really sorry to bother you with this, but I made a research on WP and I couldn´t find nothing that supports your theory, so I got really courios about it... You know, it was always been my dream to say profanities to people I dislike, and that fact not to be considered personal attack, but unfortunatelly, my education and my way of life doesn´t allow me to behave like that anyway. :) It would be extremely helpfull and important for me to understand what you meant by your words, so when you find yourself with time, please explain it to me. Best regards, FkpCascais (talk) 02:05, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You're not interrupting at all, and be assured that I understand where you are coming from. For a good chunk of my Wikipedia life, I was a regular patroller of WP:WQA - the location where complaints go related to WP:NPA and WP:CIVIL. Neither are typically blockable offences, so WQA is there to try and assist the parties in "getting along". Occasionally, the WP:NPA is bad enough that we would recommend going to WP:ANI (racism and other hate-related attacks, for example). You will note that Hersford also agreed that the comments were not violations of WP:NPA, but that they were perhaps uncivil. Incivility, unless extreme and persistent, are not blockable offences (oddly, there is also policy from an ArbComm case that profanity is permitted, within reason). So, although I concur that the comments may have been uncivil - which is not typically blockable - can you show me where you think that it does meet WP:NPA? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:16, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much for your words, but, I think I wasn´t very clear, what I really wanted is for you to repeat to me the sentence that you posted on my talk page, you know, the one that sounded something like, "it is only PA if you beleave thet you beleave...", you´ll know, after all, they were your words... I wasn´t asking if another admin agreed or not about it, I understand English enough to understand that User:Hersfold had agreed with you, but I just had some difficulties regarding your sentence and its exact meaning there...
Regarding the specifical expression being WP:NPA violation, I can´t really remember now exactly where I got the confirmation that in that situation, it was. When I find it I´ll let you know. But, after all, it looks like we are in "your" area... if you find it first, please let me know! Anyway, I´m really interested in the sentence you posted. I am extremely greatfull for your spared time in dealing this with me. :) FkpCascais (talk) 21:11, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If I recall, I was trying to install some light brevity, something about if you believed that he was actually calling your ass "sorry" ... I had planned on going further and wondering if your donkey actually edited Wikipedia, then it might have been even more of an NPA against your "apologetic donkey", but I held off. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 20:03, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Bwilkins, this is a message from an automated bot to inform you that the page you created, Are We There Yet?: World Adventure, has been marked for speedy deletion by User:Finger woman. This has been done because the page is a very short article providing no content to the reader (see CSD). If you think the tag was placed in error, please add "{{hangon}}" to the page text, and edit the talk page to explain why the page should not be deleted. If you have a question about this bot, please ask it at User talk:SDPatrolBot II. If you have a question for the user who tagged the article, see User talk:Finger woman. Thanks, - SDPatrolBot II (talk) on behalf of Finger woman (talk · contribs) 01:53, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

168.170.204.99[edit]

As much as I don't think anything productive is going to come from that IP ever, would you consider just protecting their talk page for a bit instead of changing the block to cannot edit talk page? I only ask because its a 3 year block, and things could change to where a valid unblock might be forthcoming. I didn't want to modify the block without talking to you first.

168.170.204.99 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) Thanks! Syrthiss (talk) 15:43, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have no issue with you changing it to a temp protected page in lieu of a talkpage locking. Thanks for checking! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:53, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is a classic single purpose account, which is solely dedicated to publicizing people he/she claims to be the rightful heirs to the Royal House of Turkey, supposedly based on her/his original research in Russian archives. The name they want to change to is just an abbreviation for the current spamusername. I fail to see how unblocking them to change to an abbreviation of the prior spammy COI name would be constructive. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:10, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I should have stated that I agree with a username change to something, not necessarily this ... do you think I can research the Russian archives and find someone to become the rightful heir to my Mastercard bill? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:13, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you[edit]

Thank you Bwilkins with my {{helpme}} questions and needs. Your clear explanations, options, and links are so helpful and appreciated.--Look2See1 (talk) 00:27, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gillian Duffy[edit]

What's happened to the Duffy page. She's the most famous pensioner in England. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.253.48.80 (talkcontribs)

Was deleted twice yesterday and now today for the exact same reason: WP:ONEEVENT and WP:NOTNEWS (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:55, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
We may have to salt it. Syrthiss (talk) 12:02, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think I already did ... (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:06, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Postdiluvian thanks then. :) Syrthiss (talk) 12:12, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

168.170.204.99[edit]

As much as I don't think anything productive is going to come from that IP ever, would you consider just protecting their talk page for a bit instead of changing the block to cannot edit talk page? I only ask because its a 3 year block, and things could change to where a valid unblock might be forthcoming. I didn't want to modify the block without talking to you first.

168.170.204.99 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) Thanks! Syrthiss (talk) 15:43, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have no issue with you changing it to a temp protected page in lieu of a talkpage locking. Thanks for checking! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:53, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is a classic single purpose account, which is solely dedicated to publicizing people he/she claims to be the rightful heirs to the Royal House of Turkey, supposedly based on her/his original research in Russian archives. The name they want to change to is just an abbreviation for the current spamusername. I fail to see how unblocking them to change to an abbreviation of the prior spammy COI name would be constructive. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:10, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I should have stated that I agree with a username change to something, not necessarily this ... do you think I can research the Russian archives and find someone to become the rightful heir to my Mastercard bill? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:13, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you[edit]

Thank you Bwilkins with my {{helpme}} questions and needs. Your clear explanations, options, and links are so helpful and appreciated.--Look2See1 (talk) 00:27, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gillian Duffy[edit]

What's happened to the Duffy page. She's the most famous pensioner in England. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.253.48.80 (talkcontribs)

Was deleted twice yesterday and now today for the exact same reason: WP:ONEEVENT and WP:NOTNEWS (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:55, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
We may have to salt it. Syrthiss (talk) 12:02, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think I already did ... (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:06, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Postdiluvian thanks then. :) Syrthiss (talk) 12:12, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gillian Duffy as a redirect page[edit]

Hi!

I had just created a redirect page from Gillian Duffy to the Notable Incidents section of the Election article, and I decided that I should let you and the other deleting admin know about it out of courtesy. I then discovered that there was a major debate about it on the ANI page, so I decided to explain my actions there. If you still feel it should be deleted, I won't consider it wheel warring. Stephen! Coming... 13:45, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ANI[edit]

ok then will do

would of used a template if there was one (like the speedy templates) --Sghfdhdfghdfgfd (talk) 09:58, 30 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, as an attack page, {{db-attack}} would do as well...unless there was additional history on the page. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:35, 30 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted page.[edit]

I created the page "Digo_Market" to inform about the items sold on the Digo Market. I'll also explain a bit about people who manage the website. Currently, this information clutters the Furcadia page since there is a growing amount of items on this market. I wasn't quite done with the page at time of deletion; could I recreate the page and put a construction tag on it? If not, what should I do to improve the "Digo_Market" page? Brassbird (talk) 22:01, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm almost done with the "Digo_Market" page. (User:Brassbird/dmsandbox) It contains much more information did it previously did. Needs more references, though. Could I put it up with a "needs more references" box at the top? Brassbird (talk) 22:31, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hang on here ... you're doing a standalone article on an in-game-related marketplace? Besides being non-notable in itself, It really reads like an advertisement and is fully in violation of WP:PROMO. I'm not sure why this article would need to exist? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 22:39, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think I'll just reword some things that seem promotion-y and put it on the Furcadia page. It would be more appropriate there, since I'd be mentioning that "Furcadia has a marketplace" rather than "there's a market place on Furcadia." Brassbird (talk) 00:54, 2 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That sounds like the best idea - shorten it, and include in-universe. Cheers! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 00:59, 2 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Question[edit]

Why are you trying to delete my page? I was just trying to form better information together for fans of the group Anchored. They had asked me personally to set this up for them. They are not well known enough to find tons of information about them online or anywhere else at the moment. They have only just come across the music industry in the last few weeks, as they tour with the group Saliva. Their debut cd and hit song have not even had the chance to see the store shelves yet, but I have provided all the sources that I can for the information that is available.

WP:CRYSTAL. How can a band be even close to notable if their first disc is not even in stores? If fans of a band want information, try going to the band's website, or even setup a fanclub - but not here, because this is an encyclopedia. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:21, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Banging pots and pans[edit]

Hey, just wondering what your thoughts are on that block. I agree with your comments on his talk page, but I'd appreciate your thoughts- it's only my third block! Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:56, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

They weren't responding to warnings given by more than one editor ... they went and harassed the one person who first warned them ... they weren't paying attention at all. 12 hrs was a wakeup, I think. Congrats, by the way (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 21:10, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That's what I thought. I was considering an indef but thought I'd err on the side of caution and go with a stern warning. Thanks for your time and for the congrats :) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:25, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]


AIESEC MUMBAI[edit]

Saw you deleted both versions. Thanks. Good riddance. Now a question. I flagged the original AIESEC MUMBAI and made some efforts to improve it, and then moved it to AIESEC Mumbai, which made me creator, and when it was speedied I got this big fat speedy notice on my talk page. Does this now mean I am considered the creator of a page that was speedied? Superp (talk) 11:06, 2 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It didn't appear to be a move - unless you copy/pasted it? Officially, yes, it means you were the creator of a speedied article, but is that an issue? Nobody ever looks at that ... we've all had one or two articles speedied in the past. Regarding this article, AIESEC itself might be notable, but individual chapters likely are not. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:11, 2 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No, I did not copy/paste. I used the move proc., which created the redir. Agree with the del. Superp (talk) 11:16, 2 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, just wanted to ask how this page was eligible for deletion. It is just as relevant as any page about any fraternity would be. In this way it was a general information page about a Catholic "faith" household/fraternity at Franciscan University. If this page was deleted why not any page about any fraternity - the eligibility is the same. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danielromeyn (talkcontribs)

First, someone else tagged it as "non-notable" (it also seemed to meet the test of WP:MADEUP. The fact that it included the household covenant, made it promotional. The only "references" were not to 3rd party, independent, reliable sources but to (of all things) a Facebook page. An organization that is barely a week old will rarely meet any of these standard requirements for notability and/or inclusion on Wikipedia...after all, this is an encyclopedia, and not a directory. At some point, your organization may be notable: at this point, it's not - and that's usually what distinguishes it from other organizations. Let me add one major addition: conflict of interest: we don't write articles about subjects that we have such a close and direct involvement in. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:45, 2 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've added to your message a reminder that they need to read and understand the policies about notability, spam and so on. Their deleted contribs were about their own company/charity, I think it's a good idea to make sure they have read these policies and acknowledge they need to refine their editing before the unblock is granted, but that's just me. :) SGGH ping! 16:30, 2 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Acknowledged - perhaps I should have posted the gist of the e-mail that they sent that already clarified their intent and apologies. Plus, I accidentally removed your text - I just re-added it. D'oh! Must be Sunday! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:39, 2 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikireader41 continues personal attacks[edit]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Kashmir_conflict

Background to incidents

  • In an attempt to reach consensus with the wikireader about the joining of two paragraphs in the introduction.
  • I explained some reason for justification for the joining as both Paragraph had similar info about Pak support of non state actors Then ask what does he/her think,
  • He was cooperative at first and ask for clarification of what i was trying to say .
  • Then after that ,I try to give additional clarification .
  • He then started to go of on a tangent about saying same groups attacking in Pak.(attempt at a personal attack because the user think i am this nationality , i believe this because of his history)
  • Also saying that he is dyslexic and purposely writing incorrectly.But i interpreted this as a blatant attempt to commit another personal attack.(As i am dyslexic as a result this i un-subconsciously misplaced/missing sentence structure and words) I have told him that I am dyslexic before .As a result he uses it at a another chance to launch another personal attack .To prove this accusation just look at the links of his/her history.
  • i have worked with other editors whether they be Jewish, Hindu Etc, on controversial pages and have reached consensus on many occasions .But this users has an agenda against me for his own personal reason. This is the 3rd of many personal attacks , Harassment and also a possible attempt of baiting respond to him/her .


WP:RFC and/or WP:ANI perhaps? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 14:41, 3 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Disruptive editing continued here[edit]

Hi there. You recently declined an unblock request by Koavf. As suspected, Koavf continued with his disruptive editing on the 'The Roxx Regime Demos' article after his 48 hour block expired. While the community was discussing on the article's talk page, Koavf again changed the type of album on the infobox - the very action that led to his 48 hour block. This time he changed it to "EP" (extended play). And again he failed to provide any reliable verifiable source for his change. He is thus pushing forth his own personal opinion. Koaf has already received a topic ban by Administrator Hiding in November 2009, where he was banned from adding or removing categories from any page. After his 'EP' edits were reverted as vandalism by an editor, Koavf still went ahead and added the '2007 EPs' category to the article.

His unsourced edits on the said article are a disruption to Wikipedia. Additionally, he is now trying to engage another editor in an edit war on the article. As for me, I will stay off this article until the admins have fully & thoroughly solved this issue.

Koavf is an editor who has been with Wikipedia since 2005. He has over 200.000 edits to his credit. He knows his way around Wikipedia, and he therefore knows how to "dribble" off administrators. I am therefore asking you to please thoroughly look into this issue. I have requested for page protection, however the request was declined.

You can find a summary of this issue on the article's talk page and on Rfc. Thank you for your intervention. Amsaim (talk) 19:23, 2 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WP:RFC and/or WP:ANI perhaps? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 14:42, 3 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Iordanis_777 --> Customizer_2010[edit]

I'm writing to you and to the other admins that denied my appeal to inform you.Below i paste the messange i sent to redvers because he didn't answer me.So i ask you the same thing.Thank you.Customizer 2010 (talk) 06:47, 4 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Redvers goodmorning.I'm writing here not to evade my block but i couldn't do something different.So,I asked in the greek wikipedia to be renamed and they renamed me and for the reason that i had a unified log in accounts were made (automaticly?) in the wikis i had the unified log in including the en.wiki.So if you want you can redirect my user page with the user name iordanis_777 to my user page with the user name customizer_2010 and block that page as well.But i don't want my old page because it has my name.you can block the new one and have the templates with the blockage and the denied appeals copy pasted to the new one if there is a problem.Thank you.Customizer 2010 (talk) 10:30, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

The reason that i write this to you is that i don't want to be acused for puppetiring and/or for evading my block.Customizer 2010 (talk) 06:47, 4 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

7SeriesBOT[edit]

Hi, why is this bot deleting article talk pages, eg Talk:Best Of Luck (2010 film), Talk:Again It's Over EP, Talk:Harry Naujoks although the bot's contributions page has no edits since 3 March[22]? –– Jezhotwells (talk) 14:16, 4 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See User:7SeriesBOT for the answer to these questions. Josh Parris 14:23, 4 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The AFD was listed for 2 weeks with only you arguing for deletion so I saw no point in relisting the debate again and it's doubtful it could have been closed "delete". However, the debate was mostly a dialog between you and the article's creator with a neutral comment (but favoring "keep") from one other editor. This really isn't enough participation for a "keep" close so I closed it "no consensus".

Though I didn't say "with leave to speedy renominate" like I normally do with these, I would have no problem with a speedy renomination per WP:NPASR. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:38, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Simple men primitivism[edit]

I will erase my personal users’ pages now and would greatly appreciate your help in this matter. I would like to thank to rare administrators and editors who were coherent as persons in sometimes quite challenging collaboration. Since personal attacks and permanent primitivism are unfortunately permitted on these pages, even on the talk page of one administrator (SGGH), without ever issuing a warning to the apparently uncivilized actor, I must retreat from these pages. Wikipedia remains to be dominated, for the time being and on some particular articles, by ignorant, anonymous and sometimes primitive men. I have to thank you, Bwilkins, for maintaining your coherence and high moral standard in the midst of intellectually and morally inadequate company of some simple, ignorant men. Draganparis (talk) 21:43, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Blocking policy[edit]

Hello there. I think you might have stumbled into something that you may have been unaware of. At WT:BP, xeno started a discussion about the unwritten "3 unblock request" limit before revoking talkpage editing, and a decline you just made was proposed as a "test case" by Beeblebrox. Just thought you'd want to know because a bunch of people are watching. ;) —DoRD (talk) 23:51, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads up - I was not previously aware. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:03, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of Deepak Banker[edit]

This article had a very clear indication of importance/significance, i.e. that the subject was a first-class cricketer, passing WP:ATHLETE, and had a source to confirm notability. Please restore it. Phil Bridger (talk) 11:57, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Done I was unable to determine the professional level of play, as per WP:ATHLETE ... as I trust your judgement on this one, I have restored. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:03, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. For future reference first class and List A cricket are the professional levels of the sport. Phil Bridger (talk) 12:08, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rollback[edit]

I was trying to get rollback which is when I went to Aqwis with my reasons. He obviously thought I was ok for rollbacking. I mean I haven't done anything wrong with rollback.--Curtis23's Usalions 20:25, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, after thinking about i'm ot going to use rollback until I officially get it at permission even though I have it. I'll make good edits with twinkle.--Curtis23's Usalions 22:26, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just before you got it, you made a brutal revert on someone's talkpage ... you certainly should not have it yet. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 00:36, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
What?--Curtis23's Usalions 01:13, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This reverted someone else's talkpage to a version that violated WP:NPA...that one alone shows you're not ready for rollback. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:35, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You don't know why I made the revert I did it because it really isn't a personal attack and Turian couldn't revert the page.--Curtis23's Usalions 13:55, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If you cannot see that it violates WP:NPA, then you really need to better understand Wikipedia, it's policies, and jurisprudence - it's well known that your "good bye" message cannot make comments like it did. Besides, what the heck do you mean that Turian couldn't revert it? He's never had talkpage access revoked, and he continues to edit both the talk and userpages. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 14:05, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thx[edit]

Thanx for helping me unblocking :) Unsonique (talk) 20:45, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 14:06, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou - for speedily deleting my nonsensical stuff...?[edit]

Hi ... Sure - I may be old old fodgie - but no thats is not my real excuse.. (simply i have dumbly sat at this PC- for over 36hrs.. (or more) without sleep - as usual .. andd just simply ran off a tad.. (yakked)?

I have now ODNE the honourable thing .. and registered..

cheers & thanks for having a page where i can "get" sorted..

But .. it now also appears - that I may have to un-loggin ... to get back to those other pages - that I also put stuff upon .. also with legal name & COI ... (oh yes I am - a stupid stupid me...).


Anyways - hw do i get to a specific .. nah wrong access code word... how do I contact a specific administartor .. ? or do i simply backpage a few hundred? (Oh & p.s - I tend to be dis? diss - disslexl?sik? as wekll as not to bright on spelling.

So? Please accept my sincerest appologies.. and ? If desired ... you can "simply" FREELY gift these totally FREE E_Flowers4U Anywhere you want. as once leanrt - they can never be lost...

they are but .. a Single RED @ Rose... & a Tall GREEN ! Leaf, & a wee BLUE * Carnation

All gently _-\wrapt/-_ in

Pink Tinsel Paper

4U 2njoy

4eva

oops - 4got them - didn't i -

_-\@!*/-_ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Roxburgh NZ (talkcontribs) 14:22, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Gift these AWAY often - to make them GROW forever - within you .. as the more you give - the better these grow

via talk (telephone) TXT cellph,or via coloured emails, maybe by doodling on you PC's notpad ... or across dusty van panels etc.... these also work with a stick - drawn through wet sad - down at the beach ... Maybe - even "given" as I do - on wee free PICK_ME_UP gift cards... simply to raise a smile - as a totally free 'smilies" - & are ever lasting & non_mainatainable ... (Oh & please don't water - as computors & cell phones dissagree with substance abuse)


Oh - finally - yes.. it was ALL that stuff - about my own R&D work - into REVERSE TAPINGS & analogue surround sound fields.. and mega multiple chs derived direct from ANY stk std 2ch stereo ... cheers..

As I now realise ... i am just way too close - to this subject .. to ever be "balanced" is not the word .. centred - means the same but still not? Um...?

.... Un biased - (knew it'd get through there somehow)

Nah ... i'm way too sensitive & quick to respond & yabber - 9as i'm doing here) so ... au revoir for now - my friend... enjoy my E_Flowers4U —Preceding unsigned comment added by Roxburgh NZ (talkcontribs) 14:20, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]


(Roxburgh NZ (talk) 14:24, 8 May 2010 (UTC)) 4got that too eh?[reply]

Thank you[edit]

Thank you for your action, did that user gave a sound explanation why, in his POV, the al-Muthanna club should be removed? regards Sallese (talk) 22:55, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why deleted?[edit]

Why did you delete http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solution_Point without any reason? It was a company profile, NO ads!! DID you explored http://www.solutionpoint.in before doing this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.173.233.150 (talk) 04:28, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It was noted by someone else to be a non-notable company - just one of a million web solutions company, which is speedy deletion criteria A7. I read it, and the website you of course posted (which cannot be used as a reliable source by the way), and found that not only is the web hosting company not notable, the article was clearly intended to promote the company - heck, it listed services like "domain name registration": can't get more promotional than that. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 08:52, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

NOTE[edit]

What can I say, I like messing with trolls.  :) KoshVorlonNaluboutes,Aeria Gloris 18:30, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

...and that'll get you blocked for longer. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 20:28, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong criterion for deletion[edit]

Thought I'd point a (very) minor discrepancy with the bot; I marked one of my personal talk pages for deletion under db-u1 and this bot deleted it, but gave G7 as the reason in the edit summary. Either way it did what I wanted though, so no big issue. GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 13:07, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's recently been given the go ahead to do U1's ... it just has not changed its reasoning yet! Cheers! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 13:30, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's actually a bug which I think is attributable to a superfluous | in a regex; should be fixed when task2 goes live. Josh Parris 07:32, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Restart of 7SeriesBot task 2 required[edit]

New code; if you look at the logs it was deleting hardly anything. The template db-g7 (as opposed to db-G7) was missing from its checks. Fetch new sources and restart. Josh Parris 11:42, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and create a new section on the log page so we know where the old version stops and the new version starts! Josh Parris 11:43, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Thanks my friend! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:28, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

When you closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/El Goonish Shive (2nd nomination), you didn't delete this sub article. Admittedly it wasn't in the initial nomination but it was added later a couple of days and mentioned int the discussion ([23]) and the AfD header linking to the discussion was in place on the article for the last twelve days of the discussion. I think if a consensus has been found to delete the main article a separate AfD isn't really necessary for this spin-out, especially since - as I said - it was noted early in the discussion and the AfD header was in place. Guest9999 (talk) 18:18, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Done I had a brief computer glitch while I was closing that - I'm actually surprised that most of it worked ok (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 20:27, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I wish this had been mentioned higher in the deletion discussion - I'm moving the article to El Goonish Shive at WikiFur, but didn't grab the character page. Could you drop me a copy of the sub-article's full edit history? (I found the wiki-text at User:Ptmc2112/Characters of El Goonish Shive) GreenReaper (talk) 21:04, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You might be interested[edit]

Fdiamond (talk · contribs), a new editor, has been badly editing articles, adding copyvio, weird stuff on talk pages, etc. eg [24]. I was reverting him and up pops Moutray2010 (talk · contribs). Duck I think, but CU requested anyway at SPI. Dougweller (talk) 15:36, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Too much quacking for my liking. I've closed the box of quackers. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:40, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Also 90.212.194.202 (talk · contribs) who I've added to the SPI. Also obvious sock, someone else noticed it earlier. Dougweller (talk) 17:17, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

new message[edit]

I have left you a new message on my talk page concerning your lack of reply regarding the sockpuppet issue. Cowabunga438 (talk) 01:13, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bot down![edit]

I think the bot's down; in fact, they both seem to be. So I'm guessing there's a system, rather than software, problem. Josh Parris 10:26, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

When I checked them this morning, it kept telling me that my password was invalid - even if I retyped the right password again and again in the python window. I've never seen it before - if I logged into Wikipedia directly there was no problem. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 18:22, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Try fetching down the latest pywikipedia code; there was a problem a little while back with connectivity changes by the MediaWiki software that was fixed with a new pywikipedia release. Josh Parris 03:09, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Done - still, on both bots, when it tries to look at the first article, it re-asks for a password on the bot. Even if I enter it manually, it doesn't accept it. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:03, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, another guess: run python login.py -clean -all and try again (I don't place much stock in that working, but you never know). At that point I'm stumped and point you to /join #pywikipediabot on IRC. Josh Parris 11:57, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'll try that when I get home - thanks for your suggestions! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 13:41, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please Investigate Problems on BP (british Petroleum) Wikipedia Page: Intentionally Burying Section on Gulf of Mexico Oil Disaster, Changing Name of Oil Disaster to Hide it[edit]

Any attempts to correct this (following reasonable Wikipedia guidelines) are met with aggressive reverts and edits. Intentional spinning and manipulation of article in favor of BP? Can this task force investigate this?

Currently there is no easily recognizable section on the current Gulf of Mexico Oil Disaster, surprisingly since the US Government has held BP responsible. Instead the "Oil Disaster" Section in the article keeps being given obscure (hard to recognize) names (as if someone is trying to hide the section from the public).

That section also keeps getting pushed to the bottom of the article (attempts to bury it)?

It's as if the BP Public Relations department has staff people who are aggressively spinning the article. Could this Task Force investigate this?

75.166.179.110 (talk) 08:10, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Moutray sock?[edit]

Tlecl (talk · contribs) creating articles in same style as Moutray and his socks, copy paste from old articles and books. Not copyvio, just bad articles by a block evader IMHO. Dougweller (talk) 10:14, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I see they're blocked - and appealing. I commented there. Thanks! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 13:42, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations[edit]

On becoming an admin. I only just got back from an extended wikibreak myself, and I'm glad to see you made it. Regards, SHEFFIELDSTEELTALK 18:22, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks ... and welcome back! Hope things are well! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 18:26, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the spot-on comment on the above page; my sense is that this individual is unwilling to learn, but if it's possible, you're the one who will have made it so with a detailed explanation. I'm new to examining unblock requests; I've been lurking in the weeds trying to get the hang of it and decided to weigh in for the first time here. I don't know if you know the answer to this -- when one does decline the unblock request, is it correct to remove the category from the talk page? (That is, the category that places the page into "Requests for unblock" where I found it.) My sense is "no", but I'm unable to find anything concrete; merely that a person can issue as many unblock requests as they like. I'd appreciate your comments. Accounting4Taste:talk 16:31, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Heya! There's no need to remove the category: when the unblock request is handled, the category is automatically removed. Unblocks can be ... er ... unique? I know my userpage has been attacked a few times because of it! Cheers (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:52, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks. As it happens, User:Ldnresearch had made two such requests; User:FisherQueen removed the superfluous one and your explanation added to hers is what I needed. But now I've learned!! As far as the attacks, I'm thinking that dealing with them is my function here anyway -- if I wasn't being yelled at by garage band aficionados, as-yet-unknown actors, children who wish us to testify that their friend Mary is indeed smelly, and illiterate MySpace rappers, I'd hardly know I was on WP. Accounting4Taste:talk 17:03, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
LOL ... so, you did read my note at the top of the editing box! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 17:13, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe his real name is A. S. Hancock?

Just saying....

CIreland (talk) 20:47, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

True, I tried to AGF on that one, but it's not possible when the first try was bonerfly. Cheers! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 20:51, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why has the Joy Tiz article been deleted? She is a prominant political writer and personality. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nicksorrentino (talkcontribs) 04:02, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, we can't take your word for that - we need 3rd party reliable sources. Their website is not one. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 08:09, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]