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Proposed decision posted for the SmallCat dispute case[edit]

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mug shot of Donald Trump[edit]

Hi! I recently read your close of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mug shot of Donald Trump. I'm a bit confused as to why WP:NOPAGE arguments were entirely excluded from the closing summary: would you be willing to explain how you weighed the arguments related to that guideline when making you decision to SNOW close? — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 13:29, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Red-tailed hawk, thanks for the message! You're quite right, I should have addressed that in the summary too.
The reasoning is similar to the close summary itself; while currently the mug shot and the Georgia court case are inextricably linked, it is highly likely that the two will become less and less so. If the prosecution wins, then that result will overshadow any thought of the mug shot, especially if it results in jail time for Trump; if the defence wins, no doubt the Trump campaign will use the result to attempt to boost their campaign. Either way the article on the proceedings and their aftermath will likely be very lengthy, justifying a separate article for the mug shot per WP:SUMMARY.
I appreciate that's all a bit crystal bally but as there's really no doubt that the Georgia election racketeering prosecution article will grow to a point where any substantial mention of the mugshot would fall foul of WP:WEIGHT and there's already sufficient notability and verifiable content to support a stand-alone article - and of course given the weight of support from the keep !votes - it seemed like the right call.
I'll end by saying what I always say - I never take offence at my closes going to WP:DRV should you wish to get some additional admin opinions there. Like everyone here, if I've made a mistake I'm keen to learn from it. WaggersTALK 18:37, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Rather than running this through DRV, do you think you could vacate the close and let this run for the full week? It had a lot of !keeps but it also had a lot of arguments for merge, redirect and delete. This doesn't look like a snow close to me. The fact that there are valid policy arguments that are not fully addressed in the closure implies that this discussion has further to go. Thanks. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 19:50, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ditto. A snowball clause only works if everyone's on board to keep the article. LilianaUwU (talk / contributions) 19:57, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yep that seems sensible, will do that now. WaggersTALK 20:06, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/aug/25/trump-fulton-county-jail-mugshot-republicans-2024
https://www.globalplayer.com/podcasts/episodes/7DrgxLT/ Spartaz Humbug! 20:14, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Spartaz Save these for the AfD page. LilianaUwU (talk / contributions) 20:16, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
LilianaUwU, you are thinking of Speedy Keep. WP:SNOWCLOSE doesn't require agreement, just an overwhelming number of editors holding the opinion that a discussion should close with a particular outcome. Liz Read! Talk! 00:29, 26 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Southampton City Primary Care Trust for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Southampton City Primary Care Trust is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Southampton City Primary Care Trust until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Administrators' newsletter – September 2023[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2023).

Guideline and policy news

  • Following an RfC, TFAs will be automatically semi-protected the day before it is on the main page and through the day after.
  • A discussion at WP:VPP about revision deletion and oversight for dead names found that [s]ysops can choose to use revdel if, in their view, it's the right tool for this situation, and they need not default to oversight. But oversight could well be right where there's a particularly high risk to the person. Use your judgment.

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Arbitration

  • The SmallCat dispute case has closed. As part of the final decision, editors participating in XfD have been reminded to be careful about forming local consensus which may or may not reflect the broader community consensus. Regular closers of XfD forums were also encouraged to note when broader community discussion, or changes to policies and guidelines, would be helpful.

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  • Tech tip: The "Browse history interactively" banner shown at the top of Special:Diff can be used to easily look through a history, assemble composite diffs, or find out what archive something wound up in.
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Account renamed[edit]

The user account "Midwaymarauders" that you blocked was renamed globally to Bobbyboucher54 (talk · contribs) (log). It is possible to unblock that user now since it is no longer the name of a group and therefore compliant with the username policy. Eyesnore 01:43, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Administrators' newsletter – September 2023[edit]

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  • An RfC is open regarding amending the paid-contribution disclosure policy to add the following text: Any administrator soliciting clients for paid Wikipedia-related consulting or advising services not covered by other paid-contribution rules must disclose all clients on their userpage.

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  • Administrators can now choose to add the user's user page to their watchlist when changing the usergroups for a user. This works both via Special:UserRights and via the API. (T272294)

Arbitration

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ANI edit conflict[edit]

Hi, and thanks for dropping by at AN/I. I just wanted to inform you that the comment you added to the discussion about the external links IP editor has been inadvertently removed by Lowercase Sigmabot while it was archiving old threads, possibly as the result of an edit conflict: diff. — AP 499D25 (talk) 12:14, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I see it has been restored. Thanks for adding your comments :) WaggersTALK 14:47, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ace Pijper[edit]

Hi. In light of the documented WP:CANVASSing amongst the keep !voters in that AfD, the lack of sources provided by the one who asserted them, and the weak arguments refuted by WP:NOTINHERITED, I don't believe we have consensus and I would think a relist would be fair. ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk)  02:11, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the message - I'd like to get some other opinions on the matter so let's go to DRV and see what they say. WaggersTALK 09:35, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the reply, and for going to DRV. More eyes is always good! ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk)  16:03, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Request[edit]

I've started a revamp of Wikipedia:Tools/Optimum tool set.

Please take a look and let me know if there are any essential techniques or must have tools that you think should be included.

Thank you.

Sincerely,    — The Transhumanist   06:51, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Administrators' newsletter – November 2023[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2023).

Administrator changes

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  • Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves from 12 November 2023 until 21 November 2023 to stand in the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections.
  • Xaosflux, RoySmith and Cyberpower678 have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2023 Arbitration Committee Elections. BusterD is the reserve commissioner.
  • Following a motion, the contentious topic designation of Prem Rawat has been struck. Actions previously taken using this contentious topic designation are still in force.
  • Following several motions, multiple topic areas are no longer designated as a contentious topic. These contentious topic designations were from the Editor conduct in e-cigs articles, Liancourt Rocks, Longevity, Medicine, September 11 conspiracy theories, and Shakespeare authorship question cases.
  • Following a motion, remedies 3.1 (All related articles under 1RR whenever the dispute over naming is concerned), 6 (Stalemate resolution) and 30 (Administrative supervision) of the Macedonia 2 case have been rescinded.
  • Following a motion, remedy 6 (One-revert rule) of the The Troubles case has been amended.
  • An arbitration case named Industrial agriculture has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case close 8 November.

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Draft: The Earthworks[edit]

Hi, I'm curious why passing the GNG doesn't make the article an instant accept. As I understood it, if it would survive at AFD, it should be passed. I also think there is potential scope for expansion, given the play is about to be staged again - at a fairly major theatre, as the draft mentions. Apologies if there are conventions and discretion I'm not aware of, I'm new to reviewing. Heavy Grasshopper (talk) 14:30, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No problem - I'm new to reviewing too, which is the only real reason I left a comment instead of boldly hitting the accept button. WaggersTALK 15:22, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm heading back to accept it properly now :) WaggersTALK 15:26, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oh sorry, I shouldn't have assumed you were a seasoned reviewer. :) I'm trying to soak up some knowledge...anyway, thanks for your time and happy reviewing! Heavy Grasshopper (talk) 16:10, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Administrators' newsletter – December 2023[edit]

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Arbitration

  • Following a motion, the Extended Confirmed Restriction has been amended, removing the allowance for non-extended-confirmed editors to post constructive comments on the "Talk:" namespace. Now, non-extended-confirmed editors may use the "Talk:" namespace solely to make edit requests related to articles within the topic area, provided that their actions are not disruptive.
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SkylerLovefist[edit]

Helo Wagger. Sorry to bother you. I'm HHH Pedrigree. Some time ago, me and other user had a problem with another editor, SkylerLovefist. Skyler was blocked after several personal attacks. The user came back with more insults and you blocked him [1], including attacks on me on their edit summary. Now, I found this [2] which is a clear attack on me. There is something we can do? HHH Pedrigree (talk) 11:55, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, the IP address they used this time belongs to a mobile phone operator in New Zealand and is probably shared with other people, so we have to be very careful with blocking those. If we do see a long term pattern of abuse from the same address though, that's absolutely something we'd block. The best way to report that is at WP:AIV. Like any individual admin, I'm not always around to respond as I have a life outside of Wikipedia :) WaggersTALK 09:03, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for participating in AfC November 2023 Backlog Drive[edit]

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Administrators' newsletter – January 2024[edit]

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  • An RfC about increasing the inactivity requirement for Interface administrators is open for feedback.

Technical news

  • Pages that use the JSON contentmodel will now use tabs instead of spaces for auto-indentation. This will significantly reduce the page size. (T326065)

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Happy First Edit Day![edit]

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User talk:NASO20[edit]

Sock related to User:Nasoofficial whom you blocked. You may wish to revoke TPA. Cahk (talk) 09:57, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, if they start posting on their talk page I'll consider that - looks like they're leaving things alone now they're blocked though. WaggersTALK 14:27, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – March 2024[edit]

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  • The mobile site history pages now use the same HTML as the desktop history pages. (T353388)

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RFA2024 update: no longer accepting new proposals in phase I[edit]

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  • Proposal 2, initiated by HouseBlaster, provides for the addition of a text box at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship reminding all editors of our policies and enforcement mechanisms around decorum.
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Administrators' newsletter – April 2024[edit]

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Technical news

  • The Toolforge Grid Engine services have been shut down after the final migration process from Grid Engine to Kubernetes. (T313405)

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Good article reassessment for Citroën C3 Picasso[edit]

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Administrators' newsletter – May 2024[edit]

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Bureaucrat changes

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readded Joe Roe

Oversight changes

removed GeneralNotability

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Technical news

  • Partial action blocks are now in effect on the English Wikipedia. This means that administrators have the ability to restrict users from certain actions, including uploading files, moving pages and files, creating new pages, and sending thanks. T280531

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