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Question from Manisha123456 on Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk (02:43, 2 November 2022)

Hi, i want to change my wiki draft title how can i change --Manisha123456 (talk) 02:43, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Manisha123456 - are you autoconfirmed? Go here to check: WP:AUTOCONFIRM. If so, you can change the title by moving the page. If not, you can ask someone (me, if you want) to move it, although they can refuse if they do not agree the move is appropriate. Are you talking about the draft you created: Draft:Membrane process? If so, a title change will not affect whether or not the article will be approved for mainspace. Please be cautious, it is important you do not give the impression that changing the title is an attempt to get around the review process which indicated your draft should be merged to an existing article. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 04:11, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
i am not autoconfirmed. yes i want to change draft title so my wikiarticle would be written great Manisha123456 (talk) 06:16, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
Hi @Manisha123456 - the reviewer indicated that the draft article should be merged, it's not clear why you want to change the title. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 07:05, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

Promotion of Member states of the International Labour Organization

Congratulations, Goldsztajn! The list you nominated, Member states of the International Labour Organization, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, PresN (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
yes i would like nominated, what i have to do Manisha123456 (talk) 15:13, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
Manisha123456 I second the nomination and would be happy to support you. If you click on the link above "nominate this list" it will guide you. We can open a discussion on the talk page. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 20:03, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard

Please note that I have set up a section related to the Talk:World War II reparations dispute regarding the two sentences on the 1970 treaty talks and the 2004 declaration by the Council of Ministers on the Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard. E-960 (talk) 14:46, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Special Barnstar
For spending an entire month selflessly helping me polish the brass. For being patient, kind, and teaching me. I appreciate the help you gave me and I am so proud of my first GA article. I wish I knew you in real life to shout you a beverage of your choosing. It would be my honour if I get to review another article with you in future. For sure, you have given me so many lessons that the next one should be much better to start with than the first. Thanks again. MaxnaCarta (talk) 08:27, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
Thank you @MaxnaCarta: for the barnstar and the very kind words. I don't actually think it's a little thing; I do really appreciate when editors reach out. As for imbiding a beverage...by heritage I drink Zubrowka, by land of birth the amber nectar and by marriage a preference for Barbaresco. I have much experience with the antipodes, a drink there is always pleasureable ... some day! Kind regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 22:40, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

Question from VintageElectronics (19:46, 30 October 2022)

Hi, Just starting out here with the intention of creating a brief page on a local company (defunct). It was a significant company but left almost no footprint, digital or otherwise. I worked there for many years and wanted to do this while the people involved are still around. Information from just one of the three founders is still available. That doesn't constitute a published source, of which there are only a handful; can I use that in addition to whatever else I can dig up? Thanks! --VintageElectronics (talk) 19:46, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Hi @VintageElectronics - welcome to Wikipedia. The main issue is whether you can show reliable sources which satisfy the general notability guidelines. It's possible that newspapers.com could be of assistance for you. Oral statements are generally not considered reliable sources. That said, every article is unique. I would suggest using the drafting tool and requesting an editor to review your draft (feel free to ask me). Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 20:00, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
Thanks! I think I've found enough newspaper articles and write-ups in trade journals to make this work. I'll give the draft a try. VintageElectronics (talk) 20:16, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
Hi,
I've submitted a draft, Burleigh Instruments, if you'd like to take a look. Hopefully that's enough to find it. Even though I worked there for many years I tried to include only what could be verified. In spite of that, you may spot something I didn't. Or, the page just might not be notable.
Thanks VintageElectronics (talk) 14:07, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
Hi, Well, page was rejected and I'm thinking there's little more I can do. The company was in business for three decades, was a world leader in its field, had a handful of patents, employed 150 people at its peak and advertised in well known journals. It sold for $275 million dollars. In spite of all that, there is almost nothing about the company proper published by any third party that's still accessible, basically two newspaper articles. Please let me know if you think there's any hope. My current plan is to abandon the page and do my own independent history, but I'll still give it another go if you think there's a way forward. Thanks! VintageElectronics (talk) 00:00, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
Hi @VintageElectronics I have had a look at the draft, I think the reviewer was probably correct in rejecting it on the basis that some of the statements were unreferenced or sourced to materials not considered reliable. That said, the two sources "Democrat and Chronicle" and "Rochester Business Journal" appear at first glance to be independent reliable sources with SIGCOV of Burleigh (the others are not). I think if you shorten the article and simply focus on information that appears in the those two sources it would have a better chance of being accepted. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 11:22, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
Thanks! One more question- the company address and list of representatives only appear in company advertisements in magazines I linked. Would those be considered reliable? There certainly wouldn't be any other source of that info. It was already suggested that the page was too brief, but I can certainly shorten it. VintageElectronics (talk) 13:23, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
Hi @VintageElectronics Different editors have different views on what should be an ideal length of an article; however, this will always be informed by the source material available. So, in this case, it is most likely going to be shorter. The main point is to focus on material that can be supported with reliable sources. In the case of the company founders, if this can only be sourced from, for example, a filing, that is acceptable as a piece of factual information (see WP:PRIMARY for more information about this type of sourcing). Advertisements would be less likely to be accepted in such a case. BTW, I also found this item from the Globe and Mail which can be used for the article. I think some of the material in the current draft is not encyclopedic (eg the sections on sales and patents simply indicate what all companies do, there is nothing inherently notable there). The draft also needs a lead (see MOS:LEAD) which is a summary of the article and should incorporate what is notable about the company. Hope all this helps, regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 21:16, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
Hi, Sorry for delayed response. Thanks for the link, I didn't find that one. Almost everything I said on the page was supported by the two news articles, but I probably erred because a certain amount of reading between the lines is needed. I'll try to get back to this over the next couple weeks. Best, VintageElectronics (talk) 21:26, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

TFL notification

Hi, Goldsztajn. I'm just posting to let you know that Member states of the International Labour Organization – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for December 5. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008 (Talk) 02:34, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

Question from Thortain (23:00, 20 November 2022)

Hey! there seems to be an error on the Nothing page.

He is not arguing that "nothing" cannot exist, but the opposite. There is nothing that cannot exist. The language is unclear.

"He argued that "nothing" cannot exist by the following line of reasoning: To speak of a thing, one has to speak of a thing that exists. Since we can speak of a thing in the past, this thing must still exist (in some sense) now, and from this he concludes that there is no such thing as change. As a corollary, there can be no such things as coming-into-being, passing-out-of-being, or not-being.[2]" --Thortain (talk) 23:00, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Thortain -welcome to Wikipedia. The best place to raise this question is on the talk page of the article. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 09:03, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

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