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Misuse of bot

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 – The issues claimed did not exist, but there were some other issues.

The Science (TV network) is one example, the bot is used there to sweep any discussions critical of the Science Channel off of the talk page every 28 days.

Any review of the archived discussions there will reveal that there was never any large-scale overload of postings there requiring a bot to "tidy" up every few weeks.

There were, however, talk discussions about adding citations that were critical to the Science Channel.

Now these conversations are regularly disrupted by the bot "cleanup".

Can an admin please look into this?

Thanks!

2602:306:BDA0:97A0:466D:57FF:FE90:AC45 (talk) 22:46, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

MiszaBot I hasn't edited Talk:Science (TV network) since 14 December 2011; and it didn't discriminate between discussions on the basis of whether they were "critical" or not: it was purely on the basis of the settings within the {{User:MiszaBot/config}} pseudo-template near the top of the page. At that time, these settings were
{{User:MiszaBot/config
|archiveheader = {{atnhead|noredlinks=y}}
|maxarchivesize = 40K
|counter = 1
|minthreadsleft = 0
|minthreadstoarchive = 0
|algo = old(28d)
|archive = Talk:Science (TV channel)/Archive %(counter)d
}}
Notice particularly the three parameters |minthreadsleft=0 |minthreadstoarchive=0 |algo=old(28d) - these three, taken together, meant that any thread which had not been posted to for 28 days would be removed, regardless of its subject matter. --Redrose64 (talk) 23:23, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) [Post delayed due to browser crash]
There had been no edits to that page at all since December 14, 2011. No additions, no removals. There are no discussions in the archives for that page about citations.
There were problems, however.
  • The archives had not been moved along with the page on July 21, 2013. Corrected. They will now show up with links to the archives.
  • The traffic on the page did not justify archiving after as short a time as 28 days. I changed this to 1 year. If the amount of traffic on the page changes, the contributors to the page can change that time-frame.
  • The config, as Redrose64 pointed out, had all threads removed from the page which had no activity in 28 days. This is a bit unusual. Usually a number of threads (4 typically) are left on the page no matter the length of time. I have changed this.
As to your claim that the archiving was discriminating based on content: MiszaBot and lowercase sigmabot III do not have the capability to discriminate based on the content of the threads, except to check for the date of the most recent signed addition to the thread. — Makyen (talk) 23:45, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I forgot to mention another significant issue which was resolved:
  • Archive page name was not updated after the page was moved. This would have prevented the bot from performing any archiving since that time (July 21, 2013). Corrected.
— Makyen (talk) 01:02, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Move review notification

Because you participated in the most recent discussion regarding the proposed move of Hillary Rodham Clinton, you are hereby notified per Wikipedia:Canvassing#Appropriate notification that the administrative determination of consensus from that discussion is being challenged at Wikipedia:Move review/Log/2014 May. Please feel free to comment there. Cheers! bd2412 T 19:22, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Request for comment

Hello there, a proposal regarding pre-adminship review has been raised at Village pump by Anna Frodesiak. Your comments here is very much appreciated. Many thanks. Jim Carter through MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:46, 28 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Problem with archive template on my talk page

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I set up archiving on my talk page according to your instructions, but it seems that there is a missing link between the archive code and the archive template. Basically when I put the archive template in it doesn't list any links to the archives, just a search box. I think this is because the bot created archives without an index to them. Could you please tell me how to fix it so that the archives are indexed automatically when my talk page is archived? --Holdek (talk) 23:19, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) I have assumed that by "index" you want links to the archives to appear within the archive box. The template you used, {{MonthlyArchive}}, does not work for your situation. It assumes any of a few specific formats for the archive page names, none of which match your archive names. To make it work, the template has to be re-written in Lua, which is on my list of things to do, but is not near the top.
I have changed the template used on your talk page to an {{archive box}} to show the archive box and {{Archives by months}} to format the links. It will need to be updated with 2015 when we get into next year. — Makyen (talk) 00:02, 30 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! --Holdek (talk) 00:13, 30 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome. I'm happy to have been able to help. — Makyen (talk) 00:24, 30 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]