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The list was promoted by Giants2008 19:12, 10 May 2011 [1].

List of U.S. Women's Open (golf) champions[edit]

List of U.S. Women's Open (golf) champions (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): SaysWhoWhatWhenWhereWhyHow? (talk) 05:03, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it meets the criteria listed. SaysWhoWhatWhenWhereWhyHow? (talk) 05:03, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Jujutacular talk 23:39, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose
  • Even though they are retired, please inform User:Bluedogtn of the nomination as they are the primary author of this list.
  • "early-July" - unnecessary use of the hyphen here.
  • "It was established in 1946 and one of the four women's major championships..." - should be "and is one of the four..."
  • Break up the aforementioned sentence, it drags on: "...played each year which include the..."
  • "The champions receive the Harton S. Semple trophy, which is named after the person whose family replicated the previous trophy because Semple was a former USGA Committeeman and President of the USGA from 1973–1974 that was first given out in 1992 to Patty Sheehan." Poorly worded sentence / run-on.
  • "The lowest score for 72-holes is (16-under par)" - why is this encased in parentheses?
  • Use the minus sign (−) instead of the en dash (–) to indicate negative numbers in the table. Slight difference but this conforms with Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Common mathematical symbols.
  • 'Total score' for the first year does not sort consistently. If I click it once it stays at the top, click it again and it goes to the bottom, then stays at the bottom upon another click. I understand it was scored differently than the others, but it needs to be understandable to a layperson, and I don't understand it. Use a sort key or a note or something to clarify the situation.

Jujutacular talk 20:19, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Addressed, I hope it satisfies your oppose, but if not just give me further comments or questions.SaysWhoWhatWhenWhereWhyHow? (talk) 23:04, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 12:10, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose a quick pass

The Rambling Man (talk) 17:57, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Giants2008 (27 and counting) 22:07, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comments – A long list below, but this is an event that I enjoy watching (especially last year) and a list that I want to see reach the highest quality possible.
  • Throughout the lead there is a bad case of over-citation. There's a citation after every sentence, all to the same source in most cases. You could chop the first four cites from the first paragraph, three from the second para, and five from the third para without harming the integrity of the list. There are a couple issues with that, but I'll cover them as I go with my review.
    • For this one, make sure all of the information actually is cited. I notice this in particular at the ends of paragraphs. none of which seem covered by cites now. It's a tough balancing act sometimes between too little and too much. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 01:14, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The championship is sanctioned by the United States Golf Association rules of golf, which is the governing body of the game in the United States." Would make much more sense without "rules of golf".
  • "In addition, this is a USGA Championship event." This whole sentence is probably unnecessary. We already know from the previous sentence that the USGA sanctions the event, right?
  • "and is always the third women's major of the year, and is scheduled to take place in July." It's untrue that it is "always" in July. I remember it being in June in 2008, as the source indicates. It looks like there were a couple other June opens in recent times, too.
  • "A trophy was first presented to the champion in 1953 to Betsy Rawls, and that trophy was retired to the USGA Museum." A less wordy, cleaner way of doing this would be "was first presented to the champion in 1953, when Betsy Rawls won, and was retired to the USGA Museum in 1992."
  • Actually, on another look at the source used, the sentence is untrue. A trophy was awarded before 1953, though not by the USGA. This is surely worthy of a mention, if the other trophies used are discussed this much.
  • While on this topic, I know that the Open was run by the various professional tours before 1953. That seems worthy of a sentence or so as well.
  • Add "a" before "former USGA Committeeman".
  • "commissioned the replacement replica trophy in July 1992 to honor his legacy and memory." The source doesn't say why the replica was made, and I certainly don't think that can be assumed. Also, "the" should be "a", since this is the first place the replica is discussed.
  • "and they won the events in a playoff." "a playoff" → "playoffs".
  • TRM mentioned up there how you should be using minus signs instead of dashes in scores. Well, I think you accidentally put in hyphens instead. To find the minus sign, go to the menu below the edit summary and select Wiki markup. The minus sign is next to a plus sign in the first row.
  • Multiple champions: Per MOS:BOLD, bolding shouldn't be used as a way of emphasis. If you want something to emphasize the back-to-back winners, you're best off with italics.
  • Can the last two tables be made sortable?
  • Note b could use a citation. Surely one of the sources already used will cover this.
  • The first See also link is used in the lead, and therefore shouldn't be repeated here.
  • Spell out USGA in the second general reference and specific refs 3 and 4.
  • Check the capitalization of ref 57. I recognized this because I added it myself a while back, and it was different then.
  • The publisher of ref 58 (The Times-News) should be in italics.
  • The date Google News is giving for ref 77 is wrong. Scroll up a bit and you'll see the paper is from July 2, not July 1. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 22:48, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Comments
    • The sortability of the "total score" is not working because of the 5&4 score.
    • The Key section applies to the champions' table only. Why not move the key to the Champions section?
    • The first key and the second key should look similar. Right now, the first one is in 2 columns and the second column is not colored while the second key is a one column with the whole row colored.
    • The symbols should be different. Right now Deceased golfer and Tournament won in a playoff is marked with †. That's confusing.

--Cheetah (talk) 02:33, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As the editor has not edited for over a week I have decided to address these issues. NapHit (talk) 10:47, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks NapHit for fixing them during my absence from Wikipedia.SaysWhoWhatWhenWhereWhyHow? (talk) 18:45, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. This list looks real good. The only comment I have is the sentence "This event is scheduled to take place in July 2011.". It makes it sound like this is a one-time event. I think a better sentence would be This year's event is scheduled to take place July 7–10..»NMajdan·talk 18:47, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    I adjusted that to "The 2011 event is..." just in case we forget which year's event is being discussed. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:34, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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