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Alfa 8C
I see you began editing this at about the same time I left off. Wonderful to see someone with access to Simon Moore's book editing the article. The extra details are much appreciated. Seasalt (talk) 11:14, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
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It is exclusive to the Newsletter.
Schumacher won his ninth race of the season, which equalled Nigel Mansell's record for victories in a season that was set in 1992. As both the Williams cars retired from the race, Benetton were confirmed as Constructors' Champions as Williams could not pass Benetton's points total with only one race remaining.
Jean Alesi, driving for Ferrari, started second beside Schumacher. However, since his car had moved forward before the start, he was forced to serve a 10-second stop and go penalty. Alesi climbed up to second, before retiring on lap 25.
I'm not too sure, but looking at the two articles, I would still suggest that "Holding company" is most suitable - but I can't decide one way or the other. Looking specifically at Volkswagen Group, they officially describe themselves as an "holding company", but I don't know how the other major automotive industry major companies describe themselves. Do you have any other clues or pointers - Daimler AG might be a good example. Is there a difference of terminology between British English and American English (or North American vs European)?
I've now cross-linked both articles, to assist. Thanks for the heads-up, kind regards -- Teutonic_Tamer (talk to Teutonic_Tamer) 12:29, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks four your reply. Now I'm confused! :)
I wonder why Volkswagen Group call themselves a "holding company" when they obviously own stocks in their other marques, but they also make the Volkswagen cars and trucks under Volkswagen AG (which is the German for Volkswagen Group) . . .
Company law is not my area, though, so you're correct about referring to someone else. Is there an appropriate WikiProject to forward this issue onto? -- Teutonic_Tamer (talk to Teutonic_Tamer) 12:55, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Rollback
Hi again. I noticed you have rollback rights.
Can you please rollback quattro (four wheel drive system) deleting edits of Zello555 and Robkraai - who appear to be the same. Zello has already been reported for vandalism to that particular article, and was categorically instructed by an Admin (MastCell) not to reinsert his uncited/disputed edits. The stuff that Zello is adding to the article is a blatant copy of his own personal website - which is a mish-mash of plagiarism and pure fantasy, based on internet forums, and NOT academic/professional textbooks.
What do I do regarding Zello and Robkraai being the same person? Kind regards -- Teutonic_Tamer (talk to Teutonic_Tamer) 13:45, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Please participate in talks, provide sources for your edits, and avoid unconstructive deletions. BTW, 328cia has left a very nice comment on your talk page... --Zello (talk) 10:05, 9 July 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robkraai (talk • contribs)
Dear Teutonic Tamer,
first of all I can reassure you, I am not the same person as Zello.
It happens that we have the same opinion and this should ring some bell with you. There is a slight possibility that you are wrong and not the rest of the world. I added some explanation to my point of view and challenged you to discuss it. Unfortunaltely this seems not your way of working. In this way wikipedia will end to be the place where the most peristent person's opinion will e the truth and in my opinion it will be worthless. So please consider a discussion on the topic: A haldex coupling transfers speed and not torque. It equalises front and rear wheel speed regardless of the torque that is transferred. If no torque is possible to the front wheels, it automatically goed to the rear wheels.
Unless convinced otherwise I will continue to make the change and then the question is who is the vandal: the one that shouts the loudest or the one that tells the trruth.
Robkraai (talk) 10:54, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Saab
Look - wiki guidelines point towards not having trivia, but they don't OUTLAW them. They also don't STRICTLY say that you HAVE TO have a tag. Thus, I am going to remove it on the basis of improving the aesthetics of the page by not having distracting and UNNECESSARY tags. Please realize this. Thank you. Rarelibra (talk) 13:45, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Touch of H
Thanks for the help here. The question of SCCA's Class H led me to wonder if you've got access to their rule book. The website doesn't give displacement breaks for E, F, G, & H Prod, but I have to think the book would; of course, it may've changed rather a lot since 1955... Still, it's a start. TREKphilerhit me ♠ 05:37, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Tried to find rules, but seems to be very hard and those has changed over the years --— Typ932T | C 06:41, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Cut/paste
If someone moves a page, like the idiot who put Saab 96 at Homopulkka, you have to move the page back, not cut/paste the contents. I have now asked an admin to fix this. Chryslerforever1988 (talk) 18:04, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Saab 600
hi, You should find better sources to those claims, "Lancia’s collaboration with Saab also resulted in the development of new rust proofing techniques." this says nothing that it "had better resistance to rust than most Italian cars" or "it is rumoured that Saab required better rust resistance from Lancia so it would be more suitable for the harsher climate in Sweden in Norway. " is clearly rumour and there is nothing about cold climate. --— Typ932T | C 21:00, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
There are ofcourse better sources, but those was the sources I managed to find right now. I recall that the heater was very much beefed up compared to normal Italian cars. In any way you shouldn't just blank the text. // Liftarn (talk)
Peugeot
I notice you del the claim the 201 was 1st with IRS. You also took out the sourced statement it got IRS in '31. A little more care, in future? Otherwise, you risk getting nailed for vandalism. TREKphilerhit me ♠ 16:28, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
I put it back in. If somebody wants to argue the point, let 'em source it on the Peugeot page. TREKphilerhit me ♠ 16:48, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
True. Let 'em argue that one, too. TREKphilerhit me ♠ 16:59, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
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Below is the F1 Picture for last month (found here). The picture has to be one uploaded that month and only from the current season.
It is exclusive to the Newsletter.
Article of the month: Forti (current GA candidate)
Forti Corse, commonly known as Forti, was an Italianmotor racing team chiefly known for its brief, and unsuccessful, involvement in Formula One in the mid-1990s. It was established in the 1970s and competed in lower formulae for two decades, with some success. The team graduated to F1 as a constructor and entrant in 1995 and continued into 1996, before succumbing to financial problems mid-season. The team competed in a total of 27 Grands Prix, scoring no points, and is recognised as one of the last truly privateer teams to race in an era when many large car manufacturers were increasing their involvement in the sport.
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Below is the F1 Picture for last month (found here) which is decided on every 25th-27th of each month. The picture has to be one uploaded that month and only from the current season.
It is exclusive to the Newsletter. REMEMBER, YOU CAN VOTE.
August picture - Felipe Massa at the European GP Friday Practice session.
Mosley is a former barrister and amateur racing driver, and a founder and co-owner of March Engineering, a successful racing car constructor and Formula One racing team. He looked after legal and commercial issues for the company between 1969 and 1977. In the late 1970s, Mosley became the official legal adviser to the Formula One Constructors Association (FOCA), the body which represents the Formula One teams. In this role he drew up the first version of the Concorde Agreement, which settled a dispute between FOCA and the Fédération Internationale du Sport Automobile (FISA), the governing body of Formula One. Mosley was elected president of FISA in 1991 and became president of the FIA, FISA's parent body, in 1993. Mosley has identified his major achievement as FIA President as being the promotion of the European New Car Assessment Programme (Euro NCAP or Encap), a European car safety performance assessment programme. He has also promoted increased safety and the use of green technologies in motor racing. In 2008, Mosley retained his position after stories about his sex life appeared in the British press.
Mosley is the son of Sir Oswald Mosley, former leader of the British Union of Fascists (BUF), and Diana Mitford. He was educated in France, Germany and Britain before going on to attend university at Christ Church, Oxford where he graduated with a degree in physics. In his teens and early twenties Mosley was involved with his father's post-war party, the Union Movement (UM). He has said that the association of his surname with fascism stopped him from developing his interest in politics further, although he briefly worked for the Conservative Party in the early 1980s.
Hope you enjoy. Chubbennaitor 08:26, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
monobook
Hi,
I notice that you are using a very old version of my monobook script. Have you considered updating it? Lightmouse (talk) 22:13, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Bot exclusion
Thanks. It's a puzzle, but although I invented the mechanism I don't like to see it used long term on articles. There's a longer list of interwiki bots on the {{bots}} documentation, BTW. I'll have a word with Siebot and see what else might work (commenting out the interwiki, and having the correct partition elsewhere should but...) . Thanks again. RichFarmbrough, 12:17 13 September2008 (GMT).
Cubic centimetres
Whoops! Good catch. I was in the middle of fixing templates that spat out CID instead of in³, and inadvertently changed Template:Auto cc-cu in against the convention for cc. —Scheinwerfermann (talk) 21:04, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Typ932. I'm sure you didn't intend to interfere with the question I asked over here, but your question really wasn't germane to the thread you inserted it in. That really didn't do either question any good in terms of getting helpful answers. I've split out your question to its own heading without altering your text at all. Please ask each new question under its own heading, unless your question is practically identical to the one already asked except in minor detail — an example in this case would've been asking how to get ft2 instead of sq ft out of the convert templates. Thanks! —Scheinwerfermann (talk) 15:46, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
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The 1995 Pacific Grand Prix (formally the II Pacific Grand Prix) was a Formula One motor race held on October 22, 1995 at the TI Circuit, Aida, Japan. It was the 15th race of the 1995 Formula One season. The race, contested over 83 laps, was won by Michael Schumacher for the Benetton team after starting from third position. David Coulthard, who started the Grand Prix from pole position, finished second in a Williams car, with Damon Hill third in the other Williams. Schumacher's win confirmed him as 1995 Drivers' Champion as Hill could not pass Schumacher's points total with only two races remaining.
Hill started the race alongside Coulthard on the front row, amidst pressure from the British media for not being "forceful" enough in battles. Schumacher attempted to drive around the outside of Hill at the first corner, but Hill held Schumacher off as Jean Alesi, driving for Ferrari got past both on the inside line to take second position. As a result, Hill dropped down to third and Schumacher dropped down to fifth behind Gerhard Berger. Schumacher managed to get past Alesi and Hill during the first of three pit stops. This allowed him, on a new set of slick tyres, to close on Coulthard who was on a two-stop strategy. Schumacher opened up a gap of 21 seconds by lapping two seconds faster per lap than Coulthard, so that when his third stop came, he still led the race.
*Hamilton was given a 25 second + to his racing time demoting him to 3rd place gifting Felipe Massa the win 1. McLaren appealed with hard evidence 2. Timo Glock also recieved this penalty for overtaking under the yellow flag dropping him to ninth place out of the points.
Typ932, I've been going through the user pages of some automotive project members, and so far only one person has been thanked for their contributions. Looking at your work, it would appear you've done quite a bit, so thank you. :) --Flash176 (talk) 20:40, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
Markku Alén
Hey. This is not really a good idea. Although Fiat 131 Abarth currently only redirects to Fiat 131, there will sooner or later be either a separate article for 131 Abarth, or a section for it on Fiat 131 (I'm surprised there still isn't). When that happens, it's not a fun job to go through Google or Whatlinkshere and correct all the wikilinks. Also see WP:R#NOTBROKEN. Thanks, Prolog (talk) 21:10, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
Whether a new article is a good idea or not is not really the issue, but whether someone might create it. And it does not need to be an article, but just a section on Fiat131, after which the redirect will be changed to [[Fiat 131#131 Abarth]] to guide the reader straight to the appropriate section. To quote our guideline: There should almost never be a reason to replace [[redirect]] with [[target|redirect]]. This kind of change is almost never an improvement, and it can actually be detrimental.Prolog (talk) 21:27, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
I reverted then. It's not such a big deal really, but because there are sections for far less successful rally cars, I feel this redirect will prove useful sooner rather than later. There is no deadline. Prolog (talk) 21:56, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
Formatting
Why are you bothering with making those edits to the heading code? It has no bearing on what's displayed on the page, so what's the point? Also, what exactly are you doing with "whitespace?" --Sable232 (talk) 01:04, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
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