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Åse Kleveland[edit]

Hello,

You contacted me on Swedish Wikipedia about an interview with Åse Kleveland that you are setting up for Wikipedia/Wikinews. So kind of Stefan to mention me. These are some questions that you could ask her:

  • You used to be Managing Director of the Swedish Film institute. What do you feel were the most challenging aspects of that job?
  • At the SFI, what kind of initiatives did you start? Which projects are you particularly proud of?
  • Some critics have claimed [weasel terms here, but I think that she knows what I am talking about] that the SFI have funded too many projects made by already established directors and producers, instead of trying to find new talents. Do you think that is a valid description? If so, what can be done about it?
  • During the 2005 Guldbagge awards, there was a big controversy. It turned out that the jury hadn't seen all the 33 films and thus only nominated three films for the awards. What are your recollections of these events? What happened internally at the Film institute afterwards?
  • Which of the Guldbagge winners for best film during your years as Managing Director did you like best?

I hope there's something here that you can use.

Best wishes, Hannibal on Swedish Wikipedia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.248.135.16 (talk) 17:47, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You contacted me too. I have no questions, but it's a great interview object! She has been a Person in Sweden and Norway at least since the early sixties. Keep up the good spirit! // Best regards Mankash (talk) 19:26, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Colin Berry[edit]

Hi Mike. had a look at the article. Don't really know anything about the subject unfortunately, so I dodn't think I can help with it, but well done - the piece reads very well.--Tuzapicabit (talk) 23:58, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WikiMeet[edit]

Hello...I'd like your help in getting a meetup for wikipedians in Tampa at USF. A friend of mine has agreed to let us use some space in a computer lab on the USF campus. I've read the directions, but I'm still not completely sure of what I should do. The date I've picked is August 13, 2008, at 7 PM. Can you help? Thanks! Hires an editor (talk) 20:56, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Meetup/Tampa -- You're invited! Hires an editor (talk) 04:08, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm never Giving Up[edit]

Hi there. Didn't realise these songs didn't have articles - although I think the groups do - which virtually amounts to the same thing! "Making your Mind Up" certrainly does, cause I contributed quite heavily to it. I absolutely hated "Runner In The Night", but I think "I'm Never Giving Up" is one of the best entries ever - along with the 81,82 and 84 entries. I'll have to have a look at the Sweet Dreams page to see if it needs anything added (I know that the follow-up was called "17 Electric"). Maybe a picture of the single sleeve could be added - pictures of records seem to be more acceptable than pictures of thre actual artists it seems.--Tuzapicabit (talk) 07:55, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Had a quick look at some of the surrounding pages and the artist pages. Certainly work needed on some of them - and references. Perhaps we need to get some continuity boxes in there, I'm surprised they don't already have them. Not much time at the moment, but I might be able to get an hour or two in a couple of days. Thanks for pointing them out. By the way, Belle and the Devotions follow-up single was called "All The Way Up".[1]


Added in bits and pieces to a couple of entries. I'll have a look at the other pages later. Also put in succession boxes to each of the Eurovision artists. [2]
Hi again. Unfortunately, all my images have been tagged-so it seems the two that I put are to be removed. To be honest, I've better things to do with my time than try and put a fair use rationale on each of them, so I'm just going to let them go and not bother uploading any more pictures. I wish some of these people would get a life and be more constructive than just spoiling everyones pages. The guy in question is User:Sfan00 IMG and from his talk page it seems he's getting up a lot of people noses, but you just have to feel sorry for him. Never mind, doesn't really bother me! The articles are coming on really well by the way. --Tuzapicabit (talk) 22:28, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RfA Thanks[edit]

Thank you for participating in my RfA, wich was successful with 73 support, 6 oppose, and 5 neutral.

I'll try to be as clear as I can in my communication and to clear some of the admin backlog on images.

If there is anything I can help you with, don't hesitate to ask me on my talk page!

Cheers, --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 15:08, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tak for the invitation –[edit]

– but I'm not really interested, I hardly ever edit anymore, in fact I only change things that really stand out negatively when I come across them – and feel like it. So thanks, but no thanks. — Emil K. (talk|contribs) 14:49, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks from here too, I'll look into it and see if I have time :-) --piksi (talk) 01:57, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sonia[edit]

Hello again. Just quickly had a look at some of your Eurovision songs pages. Quickly threw a picture sleeve of Better the Devil You Know (Sonia song) on there - I see you've put a fair use rationale on the other two I did, so thanks for that. I quite like Sonia, so I might do some work on her page(s) - although I don't know why she's listed as Sonia Evans when she was only ever known as Sonia.But anway, I digress, one quick thing - in your page for her song you say the following: " "the devil you know" (her uncontrollable affection for her boyfriend) instead of "the devil you don't" (his erratic, uncertain behaviour). " - surely the phrase "Better the devil you know" refers to the belief that you're better off sticking with what you know, so "the devil you don't" would perhaps refer to another potential boyfriend? Just a minor point really, but that's always the way I've thought of it. What you think? --Tuzapicabit (talk) 01:47, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nice one. You're really on a mission with these entries. Good work with the latest. The idea of a 'postal vote' makes me smile every time I hear it.--Tuzapicabit (talk) 05:39, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bardo[edit]

I agree and disagree there. There is no doubt that "One Step Further" was far more contemporary than all other Eurovision songs up to that point (probably the reason why it did so well in the charts - ie. it worked as a 'real' song), but I don't think it bears much resemblence to the electronic music popular at the time. The live version of the song however loses much of the effect also, as it's down to the intricate production of the recorded version which gives it its' contemporary feel.

The song was hugely backed by many people (Terry Wogan, the bookmakers), and I remember myself on the day of the contest, having bought the single, thinking how could anything beat such a great song, but was horrified when I heard the mess displayed at the Eurovision itself. The lesson seemed to be learned that contemporary pop songs - and big chart hits - just didn't work when translated to live 'orchestral' productions in the Eurovision. A similar situation occured years later with Gina G, which was also similarly a big chart hit and sure-fire favourite to win on the day.--Tuzapicabit (talk) 12:41, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks fro the clip. She really was beautiful (and still is!). I'll have a think about the wording a bit later.--Tuzapicabit (talk) 08:37, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter - August 2008[edit]

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Jack in the Box[edit]

The performance was unique in that Rodgers was the first singer in Eurovision history to wear hot pants on stage

You know the song you mentioned before it - "Pomme Pomme Pomme"? - this was her: http://www.jamd.com/search?assettype=g&assetid=51141028&text=monique+melsen !! Hot pants a go-go! I'll have a look for some references though!--Tuzapicabit (talk) 13:33, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As soon as you mentioned the song I remembered seeing a clip of it - and that awful song has never left my head! Argghh!--Tuzapicabit (talk) 15:02, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Temple Beth-El Pensacola[edit]

Ahavath Chesed in Jacksonville dates from 1867. Is Pensacola older? Do you have a source?Elan26 (talk) 15:07, 14 August 2008 (UTC)Elan26[reply]

  • I'm not trying to pick quarrels, I'm really not. But I am trying to pin down the history of the Jewish cumminity in Penaascola, and I am having toruble. I canot, for example, find a reliable source for the construction of the earliest synagogue building. Lots of congregations are organized and pray in some space or other before building a synagogue. And I find it diffucult to believe that a congregation in that era was created de novo in 1876 with a charter anda building. Usually the ceretery was organized first, then a congregation, then (after they get the money to gether) a building. It wyould be useful if you could bring some sources for the knowledge that you obviously have.Elan26 (talk) 16:12, 14 August 2008 (UTC)Elan26[reply]
    • I would truly like to know more about the two previous buildings. Do you have photos? Can you post them? I found a reference to a congregational history and added it to the page. Perhaps you have a copy and can use that to straighten out the history. It may well be the oldes synagogue in Florida. But the information needs to be validated.Elan26 (talk) 16:19, 14 August 2008 (UTC)Elan[reply]
"the date we're looking for"? Please be more specific. What date? I am looking for sources. and I assume that there will be a series of dates, cemetery, first record of meeting for prayer, etc. If you want to date the synagogue building, fine. I would love to have a source. But the date a synagogue building is erected must be distinguished from the date at which a congregation if formed. And it should be listed that way. "first synagogue building constructted" or whatever. You need to be specific, to have sources, and to distinguish the building form the congregationElan26 (talk) 17:41, 14 August 2008 (UTC)Elan26[reply]
  • I'll look forward to seeing what you can find out. There should certainly be a way to word this amicably, the two congregations are each very old, and each has some well-sourced activities that predate the other. (do take a look at Oldest synagogues in the United States. But what I an truly keen to see is what you can dig up on the two older buildings that Pensacola appears to have had. Photos would be great. Do, please, be back in touch with what you find.Elan26 (talk) 17:46, 14 August 2008 (UTC)Elan26[reply]

DYK: Jack in the Box (song)[edit]

Updated DYK query On 19 August, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Jack in the Box (song), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--PFHLai (talk) 06:28, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The latest news from the Wikimania Stockholm bid team



September 2008
September 28:

  • A special Sunday meeting was held, as there had been some trouble getting everyone to meet on Thursday night. Thursday meetings will commence again on October 9.
  • Mikael Lindmark is withdrawing from the bid, new member Oskar Sigvardsson is taking his place.
  • Tasks were discussed again, with each person's tasks being clearly outlined. A timeline was set, in which a certain percentage of each task should be finished by the next meeting (October 9). The first tasks should be finished by the beginning of November in most cases. People finishing their tasks early will be assigned to new tasks.
  • A vote was held on the question of conference location: Fluff, Bjelleklang, Mike_H, Laaknor, JHS, OskarS, CarinaT and Henrik voted yes to Stockholm University. Nobody opposed, with Patricia and Wegge being absent at the time of the meeting. Other options discussed before the vote were the Royal Institute of Technology (KTH), Stockholmsmässan, and Globen.
  • Mike_H was elected as a temporary bid committee chair, with nobody opposing.
  • The question of guest speakers on the conference was raised; Mike asked everyone to come up with suggestions for October 9, which will be the next meeting.
  • Carina brought up a proposal first posted to the mailing list by Sir48. Before Wikimania, it is proposed to organize meetups in Oslo, Helsinki, Copenhagen and Reykjavik of the local Wikipedians, and then from there everyone can travel together to Stockholm for the conference. The Norwegians, Danes and Finns in attendance agreed it was a very good idea. Carina suggested that this be written into the bid, and Mike volunteered to put it in. The bid team will also be talking to the Icelandic contingent in the coming weeks and asking for their input with this idea.


da:Bruger:CarinaT/Wikimania-Stockholm fi:Käyttäjä:Nikerabbit/Wikimania-Stockholm is:Notandi:Jóna Þórunn/Wikimania-Stockholm nn:Brukar:Bjelleklang/Wikimania-Stockholm no:Bruker:Bjelleklang/Wikimania-Stockholm sv:Användare:Moralist/Wikimania-Stockholm

--Comments? Bjelleklang - talk 23:10, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter - September 2008[edit]

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DYKS[edit]

Impressive article. Not one of my favorite songs, but I'm surprised that you managed to write such a long piece on it. Good stuff. I've just completed a new article, which I've brought to the attention of the Eurovision project: List of the top ranking countries of the Eurovision Song Contest. It's not a 100% perfect way of judging the success of each country, but for practical reasons I had to cut it at the top 5 point.--Tuzapicabit (talk) 12:49, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You should add it to the list for DYK, i want something to put on the next newsletter lol. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 13:03, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I might have added it to the list yesterday since the 19th was still listed and I noticed that you hadn't lol. We'll see if they take it, it would probably be today if they did. Maybe you should just read it over and see if you could section and and tidy it up a bit? Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 13:56, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Haha, it worked. If you noticed I sectioned it off too. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 15:19, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You wrote those sentences, I was going to tell you to be careful about copying word for word, lol. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 15:32, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Anything else besides Su canción get DYK in October? Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 19:39, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Gabriella Ferri (can't believe I'm even editing a talk page on en.wp to tell you this...)[edit]

You'll like her, but her bio is skimpier than her stage outfits... you could fix that I bet. <winks> - Amgine (talk) 16:09, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do you take translation requests?[edit]

Alison has been very busy; as a result, an article of mine that she was going to translate has not materialized on ga apart from a little stub. I was wondering if you would like to translate Doireann Ní Bhriain to ga. Please let me know! Mike H. Fierce! 06:03, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not in the habit of doing so, but I'll take a look at this later on. Stifle (talk) 08:18, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Later on has apparently become "now", but my Irish isn't as active as I'd like so it's going slowly. Stifle (talk) 08:34, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This seems like a slightly good idea. I've opened a translation queue in case there are any other articles to do. Stifle (talk) 10:36, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This is now  Done. Stifle (talk) 15:18, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DYK 25/9[edit]

Updated DYK query On 25 September, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Bandido, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 21:30, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

9/27/08 DYK[edit]

Updated DYK query On 27 September, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Helga Vlahović, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions. -- RyRy (talk) 05:48, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter - October 2008[edit]

This Newsletter was delivered by Grk1011 (talk). If you are no longer interested in WikiProject Eurovision then please remove your name from this list. I'll write here. I think her name should be in the first sentence because it is her song before a Eurovision song. Its not like its a song that she just so happens to sing. We should probably be using {{Infobox Single}} as well. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 12:57, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Su canción[edit]

Updated DYK query On 13 October, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Su canción, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 18:10, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Crybaby[edit]

hello. regarding your edits to the crybaby, ownership is not the issue....formatting and content for disambiguation pages are set forth in mos:dab. my appologies for not previously indicating that fact. cheers! --emerson7 18:44, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I wanted to thank you once again for the translation of the Doireann article...it was a great help to me! I have another favor to ask you. Alison helped me with some ideas and background with the article Two Working Men, and I'd like to nominate it for DYK this week. I was wondering if you would be interested in perhaps helping with beefing up the article a little more. :) Mike H. Fierce! 07:24, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm terrible at things like that. I don't think I'd be much or any help. Even though it's in Cork. Stifle (talk) 08:15, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Are you in Cork? If so, the picture we have...we got it from Flickr and it's free, but the quality is not that great. Have you considered "doing your part" by going over there and taking a better picture? :D Mike H. Fierce! 12:44, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm from Cork, but living in Dublin. I'll see if I can drop by next time I'm down. However, copyright could be an issue for it as the statue was only created in 1969. Stifle (talk) 12:52, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Translation[edit]

I don't think I'd be much help as the Irish I have is extemely school based (due to learning Irish in the great capital where Irish is not spoken on a daily basis outside of the classroom) as in much of my Irish is either learned off phrases (like everyday consersation or random notes about selected poems, stories, dramas or debates learned off for great exams like the Leaving Cert which are never used again after that) or (extremely) basic sentences (for example: Is maith liom milseán - which means I like sweets :D). And my Irish teachers can back me up on that. Honestly, I don't think I would be able to translate the article as my Irish grammar skills are so atrocious that it's almost laughable hence why I never bothered to edit the Irish Wikipedia as the edits would cause more harm than good (I wouldn't be surprised if my edits would be considered vandalism or the would at least be reverted for being somewhat nonsensical). I know there are a few editors that work both on this Wikipedia and the Irish one (I think User:Alison is one of them) who would have the Irish to be able to translate articles a hell of a lot better than I ever could. I'm sorry that I can't be of much help here. AngelOfSadness talk 17:29, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Anabela[edit]

Not sure if my Talk is on your watchlist, but I've responded there for you. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 07:36, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re. Translation[edit]

Hello Mike. "Oi! Como vai você?" is Brazilian Portuguese. :-) In the Portuguese I speak we'd say "Olá! Como estás?" instead. ;-) Anyway, I am very busy indeed and wouldn't be able to sign up for any translation at the moment. But even if I were available, I would not do it on the Portuguese Wikipedia, as I don't edit it. Actually I boycott that Wikipedia. Don't know who to refer, really. :-/ Regards, Húsönd 19:06, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Two Working Men[edit]

Updated DYK query On 23 October, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Two Working Men, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Allen3 talk 11:54, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Anabela[edit]

Updated DYK query On 27 October, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Anabela, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Keep up the good work! ~ User:Ameliorate! (with the !) (talk) 04:50, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have started a Wikipedia:Request for comment on this topic at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Eurovision#RfC on ESCKaz reliability. This discussion originates from questions on the reliability of the ESCKaz website and if it should be used in Eurovision articles on Wikipedia. It has now being extended to fully review all sources used in articles covered by WikiProject Eurovision, including ESCToday and Oikotimes. This is a very important issue to the project as sourcing is a key part of articles, and consensus needs to be reached on which sources should be used when, where and how. This discussion however has so far lacked a wide range of editor participation, and as you have listed yourself as a member of WikiProject Eurovision I invite you to add your thoughts. In particular more input is needed from editors which have a high level of experience with relevant guidelines/policies such as Wikipedia:Reliable sources and Wikipedia:Verifiability, and who have up until now stayed outside this debate, though all contributions are welcome. Thank you. Camaron | Chris (talk) 11:04, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter - November 2008[edit]

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Bolding[edit]

Hey, nice job with all the new pages and edits today, but remember not to link bold words like you did for the opening in Netherlands_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_1986. It should be more like Bulgaria in the Eurovision Song Contest 2009. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 20:07, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY![edit]

The Original Barnstar
Because everyone is a star on their birthday! MBisanz talk 15:18, 11 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Thinking of you[edit]

Merci beaucoup! --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 18:44, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Hey y'all![edit]

OK. I appreciate the invite and will give it some thought. I spent a night in Biloxi once, so have a good idea of the place, but would have to travel 5 hours each way. — ℜob C. alias ᴀʟᴀʀoʙ 21:46, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ANI comment[edit]

Mike, I just noticed your comment to me on ANI. I responded and also left Dennis a note regarding this; I see now that it was a misinterpretable (that's a word, right?) phrase that was meant in different manner than what you seem to have perceived. Cheers, — Scientizzle 00:31, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

edit conflicts[edit]

didn't mean to do that. Gwen Gale (talk) 21:55, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom[edit]

Hello there,

I noticed that you voted to oppose me because I had not answered all of the questions. In my defence, some of them were asked in the middle of last night :)

I've now answered them all. I hope you'll reconsider your vote, but either way, thank you for voting. BillMasen (talk) 12:35, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter - December 2008[edit]

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DYK for Berlin (sculpture)[edit]

Updated DYK query On 17 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Berlin (sculpture), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 11:01, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Monumento al Ahogado[edit]

Updated DYK query On 17 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Monumento al Ahogado, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 23:11, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done[edit]

I asked User:SoWhy to check my work; when we can't find translations (I'm assuming you couldn't, but I asked SoWhy to check anyway), probably best to have one native English-speaker and one native German-speaker check them, for maximum idiomaticity (that's not a word). I know this is OR but per many conversations at WT:V, we should try for translations (when the article is notable enough to exist as an article even though part is in a foreign language). Happy to help! - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 20:42, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Season's Greetings[edit]

Wishing you the very best for the season. Guettarda (talk) 01:31, 27 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]



New Year Honours[edit]

The Barnstar of High Culture
For all your tireless work on Eurovision Song Contest

I award this barnstar for your efforts in promoting the Eurovision Song Contest, for all your patience in listening to and researching so many Eurovision entries and writing the results up in Wikipedia articles. A whole artistic genre would have died an ignominious death from banality and unnotability without your indefatigable efforts. I salute your contribution to all that is refined, noble, sophisticated and Apollonian in televisual culture.--Publunch (talk) 08:52, 27 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article on Bernd Meinunger[edit]

Hello! You placed a {{dated prod}}-template on the article about Bernd Meinunger. May I ask that you inform the creator of the article after you put this template on an article to give them the chance to improve it? I noticed this only by accident and had I not, the article would probably be gone in a few days. --Bensin (talk) 19:37, 27 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I understand. No harm this time as I fixed the article and someone else removed the template. Thank you for explaining! --Bensin (talk) 17:01, 28 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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