User talk:Kirilinm

June 2022[edit]

Hello, Kirilinm. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. User3749 (talk) 09:05, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of MetaTrader 5[edit]

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A tag has been placed on MetaTrader 5, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Reply[edit]

Thanks for message. You don't need my permission, but you do need to read the following carefully.

Thank you for declaring your conflict of interest. That doesn't mean you can write what you like, you must follow the guidance below:

you must provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that it meets the notability guidelines. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the organisation or company, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, logs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the company or organisation claims or interviewing its management. Note that references should be in-line so we can tell what fact each is supporting, and should not be bare urls

Although you have many references, most seem to be press releases, reviews and similar. The article is basically "this is what it does", with some history, but I can't see anything explicitly explaining how it meets the notability guidelines for software.

You must write in a non-promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic, with verifiable facts, not opinions or reviews.

the tone is relentlessly promotional largely because you have found positive reviews and taken their opinions to be objective fact. To take one example, for Finteza you say Finteza is a complete web-traffic analytics system that enables organizations to gain a better knowledge of user behavior and more effectively manage advertising campaigns. Finteza assists websites in addressing some of the most challenging aspects of online traffic analysis— basically promotional language without a single objective fact or real data to verify one reviewer's opinion. Much of the article is similarly opinions masquerading as facts, and sometimes unsourced eg It allows you to change any of its settings, manage databases of clients and trade operations, and much more.

There shouldn't be any url links in the article, only in the "References" or "External links" sections.
You must not copy text from elsewhere. Copyrighted text is not allowed in Wikipedia, as outlined in this policy. That applies even to pages created by you or your organisation, unless they state clearly and explicitly that the text is public domain. We require that text posted here can be used, modified and distributed for any purpose, including commercial; text is considered to be copyright unless explicitly stated otherwise. There are ways to donate copyrighted text to Wikipedia, as described here; please note that simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright, or you have permission to use the text, isn't sufficient.

I didn't do a full check, but I noticed that, for example, the text for Finteza is taken almost verbatim from a site marked © 2022 Copyright Analytics Insight. All Rights reserved. so it can't be used here.

Before attempting to write an article again, please make sure that the topic meets the notability criteria linked above, and check that you can find independent third party sources. Also read Your first article. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 08:52, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

MetaTrader 5 moved to draftspace[edit]

An article you recently created, MetaTrader 5, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 16:06, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Rsjaffe, I've made the edits needed for the article and resubmitted it again: Draft:MetaTrader 5. I've also added the MQL5 language section due to your recommendations. Kirilinm (talk) 13:00, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

MQL5 Community moved to draftspace[edit]

An article you recently created, MQL5 Community, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 16:07, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Rsjaffe. I added links, adjusted the style toward neutrality. Article submitted for review: Draft:MQL5 Community. I also added more information about CoI in the talk section. Kirilinm (talk) 13:04, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Creating articles[edit]

Please carefully read WP:PE before editing any more or creating new articles. Thank you. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 16:11, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the advice. Noted. I've added CoI information disclosure to talk pages. Kirilinm (talk) 13:05, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

MQL5 moved to draftspace[edit]

An article you recently created, MQL5, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 16:12, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: MQL5 Community (September 5)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by 331dot was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:MQL5 Community and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

331dot (talk) 10:06, 5 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Kirilinm! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! 331dot (talk) 10:06, 5 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: MetaTrader 5 (October 16)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by MaxnaCarta were:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
reliable
secondary
strictly independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Total ref bomb, highly promotional corporate paid puff piece.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:MetaTrader 5 and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

MaxnaCarta (talk) 22:16, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:MetaTrader 5 has a new comment[edit]

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:MetaTrader 5. Thanks! — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 22:33, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:MQL5[edit]

Hello, Kirilinm. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:MQL5, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 17:02, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:MQL5[edit]

Hello, Kirilinm. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "MQL5".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:51, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:MQL5 Community[edit]

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 11:02, 5 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:MQL5 Community[edit]

Hello, Kirilinm. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "MQL5 Community".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! CptViraj (talk) 12:08, 5 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: MetaTrader 5 (July 19)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Tutwakhamoe was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Certain sections of the draft still have structures that resembles a promotional material, such as the emphasis on improvement from the previous generation, phrases like "Key features", and bolded adjectives followed by simple descriptions. I would suggest merging "Difference" and "Key features" into a "Functionality" section that is primarily in paragraph form, like how it was done in MetaTrader 4, as well as merge and rewrite "MQL5 language" and "MQL5 Community" so the contents don't look like they're from some presentation slide.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:MetaTrader 5 and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Tutwakhamoe (talk) 00:06, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: MetaTrader 5 (November 2)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Johannes Maximilian was:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

The comment the reviewer left was:

IBT is not a reliable source. --Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 19:48, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:MetaTrader 5 and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 19:48, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:MetaTrader 5[edit]

Hello, Kirilinm. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:MetaTrader 5, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 20:07, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:MetaTrader 5[edit]

Hello, Kirilinm. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "MetaTrader 5".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:40, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]