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Information about the vandal on the Talk:Truth page you protected[edit]

Thanks for protecting Talk:Truth.


From your remark, I think you may be unfamiliar with the vandal you were dealing with. He is an anonymous troll who calls himself "DotSix" but has not created an official user name. His main IP is 67.182.157.6 He is the subject of an RfC [1] and an RfAr [2] and a Request for Injunction. He has also violated 3RR under his main IP today. (See [3]) It would be great if you could block that IP 67.182.157.6 for 24 hrs (or even longer if you can). Thanks, again. --Nate Ladd 22:34, August 14, 2005 (UTC)

He has now started to (near) blank the main Truth page. --Nate Ladd 23:04, August 14, 2005 (UTC)

Hi, Nathan. Er, you're right, I'm not familiar with the situation. I skimmed over the RfC and RfAr, and it's clearly a bad situation. The 67.182.157.6 address seems to have only been editing it's own IP address talk page, and I'm uncertain as to the effectiveness of blocking it, as it clearly doesn't stop him. I'll try to keep an eye on this. Cheers, Functce,  ) 23:11, 14 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

"Vandal" is just argument _ad hominem_ on these obscurantists' part. I assure you I am not a vandal. This is just another content dispute, like many others, and this organized group of obscurantists are set on controlling the content of several related pages, true and truth andknowledge and epistemology included, by force of numbers. When challenged, they mounted their argument _ad hominem_ personal attack instead of honestly dealing with the issues. You seem like a bright young man. Don't fall for their sophistry.--67.182.157.6 00:46, 16 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Many Thanks[edit]

Thanks for supporting my RFA and your thoughtful and kind words there. It couldn't have happened without your effort. FeloniousMonk 18:09, 15 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I tried re-directs at first; that's what led to me being called a "vandal" and having an RFC opened against me. Jayjg (talk) 23:57, 15 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Sigh...so the anti-circumcision league is back again. Beware, they have a mailing list, and often like to send out "calls to arms" and crap like that to everyone else who suffers from their same personal problems. Functce,  ) 00:03, 16 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Australia[edit]

Hey func. Would you be able to protect the Australia article for a while (perhaps until it leaves the Main Page) to halt the vandal onslaught? One the IP's you left a message on is contributing to the vandalism. I'd like to go to bed, but they just keep coming! Thanks, --Cyberjunkie | Talk 17:01, 16 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't aware there was any general feeling against protecting FA's on the Main Page. Sure, I don't think editors support protecting them for the entire period, but I think it's still acceptable to protect them briefly for stability. Such occured recently when Tasmanian Devil was on the Main Page. It appears the vandals lost interest soon after I left, anyways, so it wasn't really necessary after all. Thanks for keeping an eye of the article. Happy editing :),--Cyberjunkie | Talk 13:28, 17 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Schmidt and Hackett[edit]

You worked on articles on the special election in Ohio on August 2. I have posted my articles on the nominees in that race, Jean Schmidt and Paul Hackett, at Wikipedia:Peer review and would appreciate your comments. The individual pages are at Wikipedia:Peer review/Jean Schmidt/archive1 and Wikipedia:Peer review/Paul Hackett/archive1. PedanticallySpeaking 19:31, August 17, 2005 (UTC)

RFA[edit]

No problem. Congrats! :) I was thoroughly amazed you got Boothy443's vote. That's one ground breaking accomplishment. Acetic Acid 00:18, August 18, 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations!! Was that a new record or what?! Good luck! --MPerel ( talk | contrib) 07:27, 18 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Protection[edit]

You said that like I was accusing you of doing something wrong. -- Cyrius| 03:32, 19 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

if you will notice it was not the first time I've ever used wikipedia. I'd also like you to notice that I have been a responsible wikipedia user. I was just expressing an inappropriate opinion. unsigned by 69.91.56.125 (talk · contribs)

Hi. Er...look, I'm feeling too lazy to look at your contribution history and figure out which of the 100+ edits I made last night you are referring to. If you feel I took an inappropriate action against you, it would be helpful to provide me with a link or the name of the article you are referring to. When posting to a talk page, please create a level 2 heading like this: ==New Thread==, please provide a link or mention the article in question, please sign your name by typing 4 tildes: ~~~~, and please provide an edit summary in the edit summary box. Thank you. Func( t, c, @, ) 14:00, 19 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Lookin' Good[edit]

I've been seeing you performing your admin duties and I just would like to say good work Func :) Redwolf24 09:23, 19 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. :) Func( t, c, @, ) 14:21, 19 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

University of Otago mod[edit]

Hi "Func", I was adding a friend of mine to the Notable alumni and alumnae section - he's now the Minister for Communications. Umm, how do I make that permanent?

Regards

Tim

Tim.Rattray!Notability.com.au

I'm not sure what you mean. I reverted based on your adding Slimeball to the article. Assuming you don't plan to add any more point of view commentary on individuals you don't like, then it's outside my purview, as I know nothing about this University whatsoever. Func( t, c, @, ) 12:30, 20 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ahh, obviously you have never met Mike Laws...

But I agree, perhaps it was a bit over the top. Actually I wanted to just add David Cunliffe, but when I saw Mike Laws' entry my fingers just slipped <VBG>. If I re-do just David's entry, and promise to behave, will you let it stand?

Tim

Right. Func( t, c, @, ) 12:58, 20 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

== Vandal Vendetta ==[edit]

Certain AOL (who else?) user(s) are on a vendetta against me and are removing external links to my sites from Radio Boys, Grosset & Dunlap, Supermystery, Mildred Benson, Roy Rockwood, Clues Brothers, Casefiles, The Dana Girls, Hardy Boys Digest, Undercover Brothers, Harriet Adams, Ted Scott Flying Stories, Nancy Drew, Franklin W. Dixon, Rover Boys, Stratemeyer Syndicate, Tom Swift, Jr., Tom Swift, X Bar X Boys, Edward Stratemeyer, Hardy Boys, Tom Swift IV, While the Clock Ticked, What Happened at Midnight, The Yellow Feather Mystery, The Witchmaster's Key, The Wailing Siren Mystery, The Viking Symbol Mystery, The Twisted Claw, The Tower Treasure, The Sting of the Scorpion, The Sinister Signpost, The Sign of the Crooked Arrow, The Short-Wave Mystery, The Shore Road Mystery, The Shattered Helmet, The Secret of the Old Mill, The Secret of the Lost Tunnel, The Secret of the Caves, The Secret of Wildcat Swamp, The Secret of Skull Mountain, The Secret of Pirate's Hill, The Secret Warning, The Secret Panel, The Secret Agent on Flight 101, The Phantom Freighter, The Mystery of the Whale Tattoo, The Mystery of the Spiral Bridge, The Mystery of the Flying Express, The Mystery of the Desert Giant, The Mystery of the Chinese Junk, The Mystery of the Aztec Warrior, The Mystery of Cabin Island, The Mystery at Devil's Paw, The Mysterious Caravan, The Missing Chums, The Melted Coins, The Masked Monkey, The Mark on the Door, The Jungle Pyramid, The House on the Cliff, The Hooded Hawk Mystery, The Hidden Harbor Mystery, The Haunted Fort, The Great Airport Mystery, The Ghost of Skeleton Rock, The Flickering Torch Mystery, The Firebird Rocket, The Disappearing Floor, The Crisscross Shadow, The Clue of the Screeching Owl, The Clue of the Hissing Serpent, The Clue of the Broken Blade, The Clue in the Embers, The Bombay Boomerang, The Arctic Patrol Mystery, Hunting for Hidden Gold, Footprints under the Window, Detective Handbook, Danger on Vampire Trail, A Figure in Hiding and others. This is doubly annoying as I was the originator of many of the Wikipages and my web pages provide additional in-depth information on these subjects. This has been going on for weeks. PLEASE HELP ME!--FWDixon 13:08, 20 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Waaargh[edit]

BeJeesus, what a HORRIBLE Talk Page dood. You need to get rid of or tone down that fuzzy blue frame thing man. Anyway, that's not why I'm here. Please make sense in your blocks:

15:10, 20 August 2005, Func blocked 84.67.203.117 (expires expires 16:10, 20 August 2005) (contribs) (sockpuppet of ArbCom blocked WikiPolice, or something)

WHAT IN BEJEESUS name does that mean? >> sockpuppet of ArbCom blocked WikiPolice, or something Who is ArbCom, WikiPolice? Even you don't know by saying 'or something'. You have seriously delayed my editing by creating this arbitrary block I had to log out and back in to start working and researching. Lighten up dood. --84.68.206.216 16:03, 20 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It means that I was on Recent Changes patrol, and did not have a lot of time at just that moment to use the Queen's English. Your editing was delayed by no more than an hour, and I suspect that you fully understood my edit summary. Stop playing here. Func( t, c, @, ) 16:10, 20 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
What? Speak english dood.--84.68.206.216 16:18, 20 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Always happy to oblige.
Speak any kind of English you want - kings queens midgets giants pigmys gorgons muppets - just make sense. I came on the internets to edit and got a block notice, from YOU which made no sense. Yous still make no sense. Lighten up dood and block less I am innocent. --84.68.206.216 16:26, 20 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]


My apologies if you were blocked innocently. IP blocks are one of the few tools available to us for protecting Wikipedia. I believe the IP address that I blocked was being used by this individual: User:WikiPoliceman. The block was only 1 hour, and as you say, individuals with your type of Internet account need only log out and log back in again. Perhaps you would consider getting an account? It's easy to do, absolutely free, and you won't find yourself mistaken for anonymous individuals attempting to disrupt Wikipedia. Func( t, c, @, ) 16:48, 20 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I am now amother dood. Apols accepted, but the Wikipolice dood was blocked at 07.06 according to the edit histry. You need to get up 2 speed man, ur block was much later. Lets leave it there - chill man. --84.65.7.221 17:02, 20 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

indef. blocking[edit]

just noticed that you were indef. blocking a lot of open proxies and wanted to remind you that it is preferred that you put template:indefblockeduser on their user/user talk page to mark that the IP is indef. blocked. Keep up the good work on getting rid of these open proxies. Jtkiefer T | @ | C ----- 20:02, August 21, 2005 (UTC)

Just curious, but even after reading the article Open proxy I'm unclear what they are exactly. Also, how do you find out which IP addresses are open proxies? Thanks. Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 20:04, 21 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I guess template:Blocked proxy works better, if you don't mind I'm gonna go through the backlog of your recent set of blocks and I'll put it on. Jtkiefer T | @ | C ----- 20:05, August 21, 2005 (UTC)
Kinda funny, while you were hitting their talk pages with template:Blocked proxy I was hitting their userpages with it at the same time. Jtkiefer T | @ | C ----- 20:13, August 21, 2005 (UTC)

In fact, {{Blocked proxy}} is designed to be used in the block reason field. That way, the user gets a verbose message explaining the evils of using an open proxy instead of just "Open proxy". --cesarb 03:39, 22 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Damn...really? That needs to be mentioned on the talk page. I was just doing what I had seen other admins do in the past. Thanks for the info. :) Func( t, c, @, ) 13:28, 22 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats, and a question[edit]

Hey Func: Congrats on your promotion to admin. Sorry I'm a bit late on that (was away on Wikibreak). But I'm always happy to throw a support vote the way of a worthy candidate. Now could I trouble you with a question? It seems that on User:Bratsche/monobook.js, many of the functions such as the "welcome" tab, vfd close, and other things don't actually work. The tabs themselves don't show up at the top of the page. The js file, and it's corresponding css file are direct copies of Essjay's, and from the looks of it, they don't seem to work for him either. Would it be too much of a problem for you to take a look? Just so you know, I'm totally clueless when it comes to this sort of stuff. Thanks, Bratschetalk 5 pillars 05:11, August 22, 2005 (UTC)

  • Func, I'd also like to hear more about this, as I am also using Essjay's excellent skin. Thanks, Fernando Rizo T/C 08:45, 22 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, guys. I just skimed over your .js files, lot's of good stuff going on in there. :) When I get home tonight, I'll try to look into the situation. Can you tell me what operating systems and browsers you're using? A lot of my own code (intentionally) doesn't work with Internet Explorer, because I never use that browser except for work-related stuff. Func( t, c, @, ) 13:41, 22 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I removed my code, which was incompatible with the other code. There were 2 functions with the same name but that worked differently, so I renamed one of them and its callouts. In any case, some stuff is working, but not all, its here: User:Func/wpfunc/bratsche.js. I'll see what more I can do tomorrow. Cheers, Func( t, c, @, ) 02:21, 23 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I'm using Windows Me and Firefox 1.0.6 (Ugh for IE). Thanks for your help; I'm about to test the new stuff out. Bratschetalk 5 pillars 04:10, August 24, 2005 (UTC)

Freedom Institute website[edit]

Hi, can you tell me if if/how it is possible to roll back a bevy of deletions to the FI entry? I was IP address 194.46.249.140, and one of the FI folks has clearly deleted everything I put in, reverting it back to their own PR.

Hi. OK, I've reviewed the situation: my only association with the article is that I reverted an anonoumous editor that deleted a large section of content without explaining why in the edit summary. For anon editors, it is very important to always use the edit summary box when deleting large amounts of data, because it is indistinguishable from children who pop onto Wikipedia and blank large sections of articles because they think it is funny.
This page explains how to revert an article to an earlier state, however, I must caution you against engaging in revert warring. You should try to engage the other editor(s) in discussion on the talk page. If they refuse to discuss the matter, then there are a number of dispute resolution procedures you might want to consider: Wikipedia:Resolving disputes. Happy editing. :) Func( t, c, @, ) 14:01, 22 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

please take a look at this[edit]

Hi Func - could you take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/3RR#User:Tern as the user is constantly reverting good faith edits made by other users and the article in question has now been put up to featured article removal because of the user's edit warring (it is many users how are trying to work with the user but the user just reverts on sight instead of working with the other users) thanks --Ryan Norton T | @ | C 00:24, 23 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Per Fernando Rizo's suggestion[edit]

I was pointed your direction by Fernando Rizo, as he suggested that you may be able to assist with the ongoing POV rumble regarding a whole range of articles having to do with the Republic of Macedonia. These articles need neutral admins with a little time to calm these folks down, inject some civility, and dampen the flames of ethnic anger. Let me quote liberally from the stuff I put on Fernando Rizo's talk page on the subject (mostly, so I don't have to type it all again):

I was hoping you could help to calm and mediate an increasingly rancorous dispute in articles related to Macedonia, in particular, the foregoing, Republic of Macedonia, and Macedonian slavs. As an outsider and a neutral to this ongoing dispute, and as a motivated new admin, I think you may be able to inculcate some much-needed civility on both sides. I note that this problem has been mentioned on the AN/I page as well.

Primarily, it appears that ethnic Greeks and Macedonian (or Macedonian slavs depending on your perspective) have been engaging in revert battles, subtle rephrasing campaigns, and talk page flame wars. Both sides seek to push POV, which results in articles becoming a mess and unencyclopedic. I point you to both sides of the debate (which I have joined, hopefully prooductively) at Talk:Republic of Macedonia. Also, take a look at MATIA's old talk page for a Greek-English translation that shows some collusive bad faith, and I am certainly concerned by this pro-Macedonian [slav] user's cavalier remarks that appear on the AN/I page and at Macedonia's discussion page.

I fear this is poised to get completely out-of-hand soon, and I was hoping you could help. Many thanks, Friejose 17:41, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

  • Friejose, I'll certainly look into it. Fernando Rizo T/C 18:11, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
    • Many thanks, Friejose 18:35, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
    • Sorry to continually be a bother about this, but I think reading the Talk:Macedonian_denar page will make crystal clear what the problem is. I'm afraid that some concerted admin effort and attention is needed here. Yours, Friejose 19:56, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
Friejose, I'm actually not going to be around much today, and possibly tomorrow either. I've started reading up on the conflict, but I won't be ready to intercede for a day or two because I'll be busy in RL. If you need immediate help and the AN/I isn't getting you anywhere, let me suggest User:Ryan Delaney, User:Joy Stovall, User:FreplySpang or User:Grutness. No guarantees that they'll have time either, but they are level-headed admins whose opinions I respect greatly. Fernando Rizo T/C 20:05, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
Also, if you really want a new and enthusiastic admin like me, try User:Func. Fernando Rizo T/C 20:09, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Whaddya think? Can you help? Should I talk to a couple of these other admins too? Many thanks – Friejose 20:31, 24 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

(P.S. The above is identical to a note I left with Ryan Delaney, another admin Fernando Riza recommended.)

Username[edit]

Thanks for your comments, Func, I appreciate it. Actually, apart from Wile E. Heresiarch's unexplained outburst, I havent't had any negative experiences with people assuming the worst, besides, one hopes that those empowered to ban people do a little due dillegence before excercising their powers, there are plenty of vandals with perfectly inoffensive names (not that I accept that mine is offensive, mind!). Nonetheless, if I might be so bold, my personal feeling is that people who get their knickers in a twist about other people's usernames have too much time on their hands, and could perhaps more profitably spend it in helping out on editing or creating articles. If anyone is at a loss, I can recommend a couple that need attention! Thanks again, yours, Trollderella 01:43, 25 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

HappyCamper's RFA - Thanks for your support![edit]

Hi Func! Thanks for your support on my RFA. I'm now an administrator, and I really appreciated your participation, comments, and support. If you ever need an extra helping hand, let me know, and I'll try to help out as much as I can! Indeed, I'm a happy camper right now too! :D I'm curious about your archiving method - is "get ( 5 )" an AppleScript command? --HappyCamper 02:33, 25 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, HappyCamper, Congrats! :) No, AppleScript uses a pseudo-English-like syntax. "get( )" is just a very generic sounding command. I think to think of something more clever. Func( t, c, @, ) 16:06, 25 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Me too, thanks for supporting my request for adminship. :) Coffee 14:48, 25 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats! As soon as I can find it, I'm going to award you my "Salute to Coffee" award. :) Func( t, c, @, ) 16:06, 25 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Just letting you that I am really not the one who vandalized Hephaestos' user and talk page lately. I was not the one who kept leaving pictures of penises on his user and talk page either. -- Mike Garcia | talk 16:44, 25 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Mike, the IP address you used to post the above has added images of penises to my own user talk page three times: [4], [5], [6]. I know it's an AOL address, but the coincidence is overwhelming. Please just stop. Func( t, c, @, ) 16:55, 25 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Nope, sorry. It was not me! -- Mike Garcia | talk 17:06, 25 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Controversial block[edit]

Re: your comment on the talk page — hear hear, and thanks. ;-) SlimVirgin (talk) 06:01, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

Sigh...I can't believe such an issue needs any debate. It's stuff like this that shakes my belief in the whole 'wiki' concept. There are just too many mentally ill people in the world popping in to Wikipedia and causing problems, to put it mildly. :( Func( t, c, @, ) 06:37, 26 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Bureaucratship[edit]

I'm just letting you know that I've nominated myself for bureaucratship for the second time. If you didn't care to know about this, I apologize for the inconvenience. Andre (talk) 02:37, August 27, 2005 (UTC)

Favour to ask.[edit]

Hello Func! I've been waiting for a familiar name to pop up on my watch-list, and you were the first one (Voted an RfAdm). I was wondering if you could go to Theodore Streleski, read it and if you think my edits have improved it to community standards, remove the tag thats there. I don't want to do it myself, its a "content needs to be improved" tag. So I'd rather have another editor do it. A bot updated the tag and I remembered I wanted to do some work on that, so I did. Take a look at it would you? Thanks in advance! Hamster Sandwich 05:33, 27 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies for not being right on this, Hamster. It looks like Dmcdevit was able to assist. Happy editing. :) Func( t, c, @, ) 02:46, 28 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Anger Award[edit]

The Zola Award. J'Accuse!

For your noble anger in this discussion, I present you with the Zola Award of Generous Indignation, created in honor of you and User:El C. Bishonen | talk 19:16, 27 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Though if I'd known your page was this horrible...! Bishonen | talk 19:18, 27 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
And 'tis pretty horrible, I love it! Grr. EI_C 19:44, 27 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, 'tis. :) I also would like to thank Bish for giving me the incentive to read up on good old Zola. :) Func( t, c, @, ) 02:48, 28 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

nazipedia?[edit]

Hi, Sam. Just curious, what is a "nazipedia", and what vandalisms did Wikipedians do to it? Func( t, c, @, ) 00:37, 28 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

pseudodoxia is the name, here is a discussion of it on Vanguard News Network Forum, here a couple of links to threads where wikipedians discuss their vandalism of it [7][8], and here is a link to it (altho its now down)

[9]

Tasks you can do 00:59, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for the info, Sam. I keep wondering if it would be worth it to join the wikien-l mailing list, or if it would just waste my time like my other mailing lists. ;-) Func( t, c, @, ) 02:54, 28 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It really depends on how important the wikipedia is to you, and in what way. If you are mainly interested in editing articles, and don't feel a need to discuss or be intimately aware of major policy decisions, there’s no reason to join. If, however, you'd like to hear Jimbo's opinions directly, and say things he might read or even comment on, joining might be a good idea. I did it because I have had so many unpleasant experiences w wikipedia admins, and decided it might be wise to jump ranks a few steps and discuss w the "cabal" directly. So far, I've found them to be more thoughtful and reasonable than the average loose cannon admin, but sadly possessed of the same general ideas at bottom, such as: IAR's is a good policy, admins are almost always right, and NPOV and other foundation issues have exceptions (like in the case of banning nazi's). While I may not always like what I hear, I occasionally enjoy knowing whats going on, and placing my opinion before the old timers whose opinions really matter here. Cheers, Tasks you can do 15:32, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Rouge admin[edit]

  • laugh* Thank you. That made my day. I shall wear that badge with pride. :) --khaosworks (talkcontribs) 15:38, August 28, 2005 (UTC)

open proxy[edit]

Hi there. Your talk page border makes me want to clean my glasses. In a less abusive vein, do you think 24.1.207.148 is an open proxy? I looked it up here, but I'm not 100% sure about the results. Joyous (talk) 02:58, August 29, 2005 (UTC)

Big Brothers' computer[edit]

Heehee. Wow, YOU have been busy blocking tonight! Zoe 04:16, August 29, 2005 (UTC)

I've finally found my purpose in life, to rid the world of that evil we know as "open proxy" - Gee, that sounds like fun. </sarcasm>. Zoe 04:26, August 29, 2005 (UTC)

I am blocked (I think)[edit]

Hi, its me Fonzie Fan. Could you please talk to ZScout and explain to him that I was given permisssion to use sock puppets under limited circumstances. I posted your quote on this page:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:N%27SyncRockMyWorld

I dont know if I should post in the sandbox as Fonzie Fan or any other name until this is cleared up.

What can I do to stop a vote?[edit]

Func, I'd like some advice. The discussion at Wikipedia talk:Conlangs/Votes has pointed out a number of flaws in the process at Wikipedia:Conlangs/Votes, any one of which could form the basis of a convincing argument that the vote's invalid and any attempt to label its results a "consensus-based policy" is an outright falsehood. Voting's already begun, with no modifications made to the announced process despite multiple people (including myself) objecting to the method. What should I do? Should I edit the voting page to put in a notice that the method for counting votes has been objected to? Should I put the page on RFC? We can't change the process after voting's started, but the process is flawed. The Literate Engineer 18:48, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, seems in the aftermath of Kim's boldness, that thing has gone more than just a bit surreal. One of these days I've got to get over being so uncomfortable with being bold. The Literate Engineer 03:09, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Protection from 69.205.1.91[edit]

Anonymous user 69.205.1.91 for days has been launching personal attacks against me both on talk pages and on edit summaries. Check his "contributions" all violate the 3RR and, for the most part, the rules against personal attacks. Can't this person be blocked?--FWDixon 22:47, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Comments on this user's flagrant link spamming and plagiarism on relevant pages are fair game when specific examples are given. This is just a case of the truth hurts. I will be happy to stop these comments if the user stops his link spamming. Note: more than 60 links to this user's Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew web pages were removed via concensus. 69.205.1.91 02:42, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Open proxies[edit]

I see you've taken up open proxy blocking, not bad as pass-times go eh? Does that mean the block list scaling bug is gone now?

Where are you getting your open proxies? I've still got some perl, sed, and shell scripts from when I ran the open proxy blocker bot. Let me know if you're interested. --fvw* 03:53, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

Uh oh...I'm afraid I don't know what the block list scaling bug is. Is there, like, a WikiProject page on blocking open proxies that I should know about? Up above, cesarb had to explain to me that the {{Blocked proxy}} template goes into the block reason field, a fact that doesn't seem to be mentioned anywhere.
I'm getting my anon/open proxy lists from the same places that our vandals do; some googling turned up pages like [10] and [11]. I also went through the Tor (anonymity network) IPs. I've been using Completewhois.com to check out listings, etc. I'm not very knowledgable about this stuff, and have been learning as I go along.
Thank you for offering help, appreciated. :) Func( t, c, @, ) 04:15, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Mediawiki used to run over the entire blocklist each time a logged in user requested a page, which caused big slowdowns when the block list got big. Oh well, I submitted a patch for it back in february, it should be fixed now.
You can put the Blockedproxy tag on the talk page too, but yes, templates in block reasons get expanded. Kind of cool, but not intuitive.
My bot used to scour the proxy lists too, but not doing it by hand made it a lot more of a pleasant experience. Also, I had a script that took the list of proxies and tried to edit wikipedia with each of them, just to make sure I wasn't blocking anyone innocent. Most of those proxies should still be open and ripe for blocking, you can find them at User:Fvw/proxytest and User:Fvw/proxytest2 (check the histories). --fvw* 15:20, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

Jtkiefer's RFA[edit]

Thanks for your support on my RFA. Jtkiefer T | @ | C ----- 05:14, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

Vandal[edit]

No need to apologize. Some overlap like that is inevitable when we're so quick to deal with these nitwits. I take it as a good sign! JamesMLane 17:08, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Hephaestos (again)[edit]

For the last time, I am NOT the one who vandalized Hephaestos' user page, so stop accusing me! -- Mike Garcia | talk 01:26, 31 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

-- Above comment added by Anon AOL IP User:64.12.117.7 01:50, August 31, 2005 FreplySpang (talk) 01:54, August 31, 2005 (UTC)
What evidence is there that Mike is responsible for all this vandalism? It is definitely possible that he is behind it, but there is no way to prove or disprove this with any certainty. Guanaco 02:49, 31 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Func, I'm telling you I am really not the person who has vandalized my page, SO STOP ACCUSING ME. You are in the wrong. If I hear you say it was me, I have no choice but to report you. Hope you'll accept this: [12]. I'm serious, it really wasn't me who placed pictures of penises on his user page either and you're gonna accept it! -- Mike Garcia | talk 22:33, September 2, 2005 (UTC)

Scimitar's RfA[edit]

Thanks for supporting my request for administrator powers, which has been successful. If you have any questions or concerns, please contact me on my talk page. Thanks again! P.S.- anyone who makes a habit of using the word doppelganger deserves respect ;) Scimitar parley 17:04, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your support![edit]

Dear Func, thanks for your vote of confidance at my RfA, and for your kind comment. I'll try hard to make the soggy mop proud! — Asbestos | Talk (RFC) 22:31, 2 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop accusing Mike Garcia (aka Michael) about Hephaestos[edit]

Func, I'm telling you I am really not the person who has vandalized my page, SO STOP ACCUSING ME. You are in the wrong. If I hear you say it was me, I have no choice but to report you. Hope you'll accept this: [13]. I'm serious, it really wasn't me who placed pictures of penises on his user page either, please understand this! -- Mike Garcia | talk 22:33, September 2, 2005 (UTC)

Bureaucratship[edit]

Hi, Func. Thank you so much for your continued support and kind words on my bureaucratship nomination. Unfortunately, it didn't pass, but I intend to run again soon. If you'd like to be informed next time around, please let me know on my talk page (as merely a formality). Thanks again! Andre (talk) 05:11, September 4, 2005 (UTC)

About my RfA[edit]

Hi Func. You chose to be neutral on my RfA, but I appreciate the fact that you made your concerns public. I just would like to assure you that I will still work my best on Wikipedia, in order to prove wrong any fears you may still have about me. Best regards, Sam Hocevar 08:55, 4 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you[edit]

Thank you for supporting my RFA. Rl 12:46, 4 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks[edit]

Thanks for the block and the cleanup. If you look at recent blocks, it looks like he may have a number of IP addresses to play with. --GraemeL (talk) 16:42, 4 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Adding thanks for the cleanup of my talk page. This is a very bored person, with many IPs. He was messing with Britney Spears earlier, but when I protected it, he just moved to Pamela Anderson. Sigh. I think I'm going to go write something. Joyous (talk) 16:45, September 4, 2005 (UTC)

Whoops, I missed these notices earlier. No prob, they just popped up on my watchlist, (yes, I am wikistalking both of you) ;-) Func( t, c, @, ) 02:24, 5 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

And thanks for reverting my user page! — Knowledge Seeker 02:37, September 5, 2005 (UTC)
You know, Knowledge Seeker, that vandalism was there for something like 4 hours before I reverted it. You need more friends! ;-) Func( t, c, @, ) 02:49, 5 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Fonzie Fan reply[edit]

Hi there,Func. You were correct in assuming that I originally meant that Id be Fonzie Fan in the sandbox only. I figured people wouldnt mind if I used gag sock puppets if I stuck to the sandbox and owned up to it if asked. I assumed wrong and will take your advice and be Fonzie Fan only.

The one thing I want to emphasize and the original reason I left a message for ZScout is that I am NOT Dr Zoidburg. Me and him have different attitudes and styles and was surprised he thought this. Anyways, thanks for responding. Leave a message anytime.

from Lionking[edit]

Are you working for Wikipedia unsigned by Lionking (talk · contribs)

I am a Wikipedia:Administrator, which means I have certain technical abilities that other users do not have. Everyone and anyone who edits Wikipedia is working for Wikipedia. :) What can I do for you? Func( t, c, @, ) 16:45, 7 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Wikibreak[edit]

Hey! Best wishes for a productive break, whomever you are! El_C 19:21, 8 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Take care, and come back soon! Mindspillage (spill yours?) 20:27, 8 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, guys, much appreciated! :) The "vacation" was supposed to be longer...but that's life. Func( t, c, @, ) 15:11, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Supernatural[edit]

I redeleted the npov, since it was there for no apparent reason, have fun adding it back. Unsigned by 151.204.24.195 (talk · contribs)

Hi. I believe you are referring to this article, where I reverted your removal of an NPOV tag.
My apoligies. I have reviewed the situation, and can see that you were right to remove the tag, as the person who added it failed to start a conversation on the talk page or to even provide an edit summary explaining why they were adding the tag. The reason I reverted you is because you also failed to provide an edit summary explaining why you were removing the tag.
You have to understand, removing legitimate dispute tags is a common form of vandalism and/or inappropriate editing on Wikipedia, especially by those who edit anonymously. I would encourge you to always use the Wikipedia:Edit summary feature when deleting either a large amount of content or an important tag such as NPOV.
Sorry for the misunderstanding. Func( t, c, @, ) 15:33, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

My RFA[edit]

Thank you very kindly for your support for my nomination. I promise your trust will not be misplaced; I may occasionally be slightly buzzed with power, but never drunk. ;) · Katefan0(scribble) 22:05, September 12, 2005 (UTC)

Did you have this overwhelming desire to click the very first block link you saw...or was that just me? ;-) Congrats. Func( t, c, @, ) 15:38, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

My Poor case[edit]

Hey Func. Have you been following the Ed Poor's ArbCom case? I presented a bit of evidence. But even though I used one of our favorite pages as my secret weapon, It didn't work. Anyway I thought you mind get a smile out this ;-) Paul August 04:21, 14 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks[edit]

Thank you so much for reverting vandalism to my user page:

I, V. Molotov, hereby give you this Wiki Defender Barnstar for defense of Wikipedia against vandalism.

Take care, Molotov (talk) 21:49, 14 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

V. Molotov, thank you very much! :) Func( t, c, @, ) 15:36, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
You're so vain, I bet you think this award is about you? Don't you? Paul August 19:21, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Ha, ha! I'm sure Carly Simon would be suitably impressed. :) http://www.carlysimon.com/vain/vain.htm

Thanks for doing the other revert. I reverted the previous anom's edit. But did not want to delete his second one under a new assumed username. Terry T | @ | C 20:17, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

No prob. :) I waited a year for adminship, and this guy wants to wait 12 to 24 hours? I don't think so. Func( t, c, @, ) 22:03, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Adapting your nupatrol.js for a different purpose[edit]

Hi,

At the bottom of each edit window, there's an "Insert:" list of special characters. It would be nice to be able to customize it by adding additional sets of special characters (Cyrillic, Greek, Arabic, etc).

I'm pretty sure your User:Func/wpfunc/nupatrol.js could be adapted to do something like this, but my JavaScript knowledge is quite limited and I couldn't get it to work. In principle it ought to be simple: test for an URL containing "action=edit" and look for a <div> with id="editpage-specialchars", and then just append another div or two after it.

If I wanted to add a second div after the first one that just contains, say, a link for the letter "Z", what would be the syntax?

-- Curps 21:18, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Curps. I wonder if you are aware that I already did something like this for another user: User:Func/wpfunc/addipaextensions.js. What I should probably do, however, is to make it more customizable, for instance, we could create static locations for different sets of characters, so that a script could be customized to pick and choose which character sets to load. I'll think about this tonight and tomorrow. Cheers, Func( t, c, @, ) 22:03, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I was aware that some users had requested it, but I wasn't aware that it existed already. On the other hand, I cut and pasted it into my User:Curps/monobook.css and it didn't seem to have any effect, even after purging the cache. In any case, there's a user who be interested in this for the Georgian language, see my talk page and {{Unicode chart Georgian}} and a list of all Unicode chart templates at Template talk:Unicode fonts. -- Curps 00:00, 16 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Curps, you want to cut and paste it into your .js page, here: User:Curps/monobook.js. The .css file is just for cascading style sheets. Cheers, Func( t, c, @, ) 00:36, 16 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Heh. I need to get more sleep. -- Curps 00:56, 16 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Some time ago I was experimenting with various Insert: string sequences, see User:Curps/Sandbox2. There are different approaches available if you go by alphabets (Latin, Cyrillic, etc) or by language (French, German, Spanish, etc.; Russian, Ukrainian, Serbian, etc.) There would probably need to be two levels of completeness: modern characters and obsolete or very rare characters (eg, pre-1918 Russian letters). Anyways, it's something that can be experimented with a bit. -- Curps 01:05, 16 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Request[edit]

I am asking past editors of the Karl Rove page to weigh in on a survey. If you can spare a couple of minutes, please visit this page: Talk:Karl Rove/September Survey, read the introduction, and answer the three questions that have been posed. Thank you. paul klenk 09:32, 16 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I need you to block[edit]

user:81.99.79.86 has been placing a picture of a penis on the Columbine article. He must be blocked, because its getting sick. My talk page was vandalised with large amount of cock. The Fascist Chicken 05:28, 18 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

When you say "large amount of cock" do you mean one very large cock, or several small cocks? Cockerels? Oh, I've just had a look. It was several small cocks. -Ashley Pomeroy 15:58, 18 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

P, On September 6th the entry began "Ashida kim is the pseudnym of ..." I printed it out and showed it to the local cops who told me if any trouble happened at his house that the posters cold be held crimnially liable, just like the people who published the names of abortion clinic doctors who were later killed. BUT, that argument has been deleted. So, what you are acting on is mediocre and non-threatening. However, it can be changed any time by anybody to include the names of my friends again and might stay that way for days or weeks before I catch it. I ask you again, why is it so important that you keep me on your site? I am nothing, I have nothing. I eke out a meager existence selling pamphlet versions of the books that have made publishers rich and these holier-than-thou internet commandoes would take even that away from me. Just for meanness, brother. Because I'm not hurting anyone. I teach one simple self defense technique, throw sand in their eyes and run away. I call it Ninja invisibility because that is what it was called when it was taught to me. It's a simple magic trick known for centuries. Why does it offend you so much that you must continue to let these trolls abuse me?

Ashida Kim

(message moved from Func's userpage) Joyous (talk) 18:27, 18 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Kim, I understand your concerns, but there is very little we can do here. You, as a subject, are notable enough for inclusion in our encyclopedia, and the information you are attempting to protect appears to now be more or less "known" because of the bulshido website anyway. We will try to stay on top of removing stalker-like edits to the article, but we can't simply delete or indefinitely protect an article because it may be vandalised in the future. Many editors are now aware of the problem, and are keeping tabs on the article, as am I. Func( t, c, @, ) 18:47, 18 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks[edit]

I forked your monobook script after trying to get mine to worked, which it never did to my satisfaction. I must say that your is quite nice, especially while on RC patrol. Those little {{test}} buttons are a lifesaver! Vandals beware... Bratschetalk | Esperanza 19:59, 18 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! :) I must caution you, I am always testing new things in my monobook.js, so things are not always stable there at any given monent. Also, most of my stuff doesn't work in Internet Explorer...intentionally. :) I am planning to post my finished scripts at User:Func/wpfunc, but as you can see, there isn't much there at the moment. Cheers, Func( t, c, @, ) 20:16, 18 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
OK. I took out the nupatrol and curps files because I wasn't sure if they were finished. But since you posted them on /wpfunc, I'll add them back in! Cheers, Bratschetalk | Esperanza 23:10, 18 September 2005
(UTC)

thanks[edit]

And could you please have a admin tell me what is occuring to the admin who admitted my correspondence was cordial to him despite his heaps of abuse. I am talking about the admin duncharris. If he is an atheist so be it. But I don't think that gives him the right to be abusive towards others who do not share his atheism.

23:51, 18 September 2005 (UTC)thanks again.

Proxies[edit]

I noticed you cought quite a number of them. Is there a list for us to manage these? Such a list at my disposal would be beneficial at my quest against vandalism of all kinds. --Cool Cat Talk 00:20, 19 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

qur'an[edit]

look i have q problem with qur'an page. though it has dubious substance i still igonored it. but you insist on putting back the picture of a woman standing with picture of a manuscript. i find it inappropriate and i will continue removing it untill you replace it with some picutre that goes with the theme and layout of the page. is that too much asking? if not then i will spread the word around, soon thousands will be editing the page, would you like that? and there are tons of people who can right scripts to automate the process. i dont like the idea but if you dont respect my feelings, then i dont feel constrained. vive la vendalism. unsigned by 82.121.171.211 (talk · contribs)

Please discuss the issue on the talk page of the article, thank you. Func( t, c, @, ) 04:04, 19 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again[edit]

Thank you so much for reverting vandalism to my user page:

I, V. Molotov, hereby give you this Wiki Defender Barnstar for defense of Wikipedia against vandalism.

Take care, Molotov (talk) 19:09, 19 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Due to the increased vandalism, I plan to contribute in Spanish and Portuguese. I will still be here, but plan to put my work here on a minimal level. (There were days I contributed 100 times, now I not going to do that in a year. Molotov (talk) 19:09, 19 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

16,000[edit]

Thank you so much for my White House! It's very sweet of you to have noticed. ;-D SlimVirgin (talk) 06:45, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Func[edit]

Hi Func,

I'm currently using/editing wikipedia behind an IP address (I don't feel the need quite just yet to create a proper account), but I was just wondering what the message that was supposedly sent by your account to this IP address meant:

"Please stop adding nonsense to Wikipedia."

If this referred to a bad edit that "203.134.48.170" did, could you please refer to what was specifically done as I'm pretty sure I cannot recall adding so-called nonsense to any wikipedia and as far as I know am the only user who utilizes this address so understandably this is considered a bizarre message, especially as there's no reference. Please respond when you have the time.

Thanks.

Replied to anon at his talk. --cesarb 02:45, 22 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

god-mode[edit]

I found appreciate any help. I am pondering on getting a new computer. That is why I am holding off on getting Firefox. It shows how techie I am: I only knew of IE and Netscape browers until I started here. Anyway, thanks again. Psy guy (talk) 13:23, 23 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Stalker[edit]

Hi Func, I've gone ahead and blocked User:SarahPhelpsjr indefinitely, as it seems to me this is the person who set up the blog, instead of (as s/he claimed) just happening to find it; plus all the shenanigans on Wikipedia itself. If you disagree and would prefer to handle it differently, I won't mind if you unblock. I may sob uncontrollably and feel horribly undermined, but I will bounce back eventually. ;-) SlimVirgin (talk) 23:22, 23 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, Slim! :) No problem. I considered outright blocking, though I appreciated that she finally "came clean" about it, (though I now see she changed her mind: [14]).
In any case, she can email either you or me (OK, SarahPhelpsjr?) if she would like to try legitimate editing. Func( t, c, @, ) 01:13, 24 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Func -- I'm not sure I agree that the page needs to be speedied, but you can see what's going on here Talk:Ray Nagin#Forks and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mayor Nagin and the Evacuation By School Buses Controversy · Katefan0(scribble) 16:34, 25 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Whoops. I made the revert based on User:Natalinasmpf's previous edit summary, which made sense. I wasn't aware there was a whole POV forking issue behind it. Func( t, c, @, ) 17:05, 25 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
No problem! Without context, it's totally understandable. My best · Katefan0(scribble) 00:31, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Monobook again[edit]

Hi: It seems the only time we encounter is with these javascript thingies. I just updated Firefox today to 1.0.7, and it seems like your maahvolous monobook doesn't work in it. I was working on RC patrol before I updated the build, and everything looked fine, but afterwards, the little additions disappeared. An interesting things is that everything is still in the "milky" format opposed to blue links everywhere. Thought you'd like to know. Cheers, Bratschetalk | Esperanza 04:16, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Bratsche. After reading your message, I upgraded to 1.0.7 myself, and I haven't had any problems, sorry. Of course, I'm on a Mac, so there might be differences with that? Also, I'm not sure about what you mean when you say "milky" format. Do you mean like the link color of external links? I'll continue to test, but so far, FireFox 1.0.7 works just as well for me as 1.0 did. Func( t, c, @, ) 16:28, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I found that I never reverted it back properly after I tried adding a hack to suppress the annoying user watchlist message. Just so happens that I did that right before I updated Firefox. And yes, I was talking about the link colors and more CSS-style changes. So never mind me! Cheers, Bratschetalk | Esperanza 22:34, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there[edit]

Hi Func, good hearing from ya. Im in kind of a wierd mood today so bear with me.

Fonzie Fan


Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa... hmm, I don't know how to phonetically spell that. ;-) Func( t, c, @, ) 03:21, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Reply to your comment[edit]

You stated:

"What, exactly, the hell, is your problem? Using fake blogs to attack people? Why, what's going on? You seem to have a beef, but you aren't making clear what it is, because instead of discussion, you prefer vandalism. Stop, please"

I have been told about this whole issue, and I have made my views here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnnopryce

So I think she was saying that

  • 1 Posting large amounts of personal info is a poor idea
  • 2 Making comparisons to the Holocaust is offensive. Allowing people on Wikipedia who do this on Wikipedia is offensive also.

I would kind of agree with her points of view, but the method she has used to get her point across is completely inappropriate, and I stress that I do not condone these methods.

If she has done any other stupid things - she hasn't told me about, but I suspect she may have done if you have blocked her, - then I would view these as inappropriate also.

Kind regards

Roberthanning 10:47, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

PS Regardless of the company I keep, I am personally trying to be a good editor. Please take a look at my contributions.

Silly edits[edit]

I don't think Ms. Nigro would be too upset: she releases albums called "tunes for the big bassoon", for crying out loud! Actually, my user page silliness is largely Gmaxwell's doing, playing with noinclude: I may bring it back to normal sometime but I admit I do like having a hidden page that says I am a bassoon. ;-) The link to my sad little article for a big-name contrabassoonist does indeed show up on my main user page, of course. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 16:38, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]