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Wales logo

I've raised a discussion thread at WT:FOOTY. Please contribute there before removing the logo again. – PeeJay 14:49, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

Jim Brown infobox photo

Hi Fma12,

Can you please explain your rationale for this edit? Why replace a much more current and better quality actual photograph with a 60 yr old trading card image? Especially in the infobox? Thanks. X4n6 (talk) 07:31, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

@X4n6: I guess you suppose that infoboxes must contain only current (or at least, the newest) photographs of persons. If so, what are you based on to state that? As far as I know, Brown was mostly notable as a football player so I put a photo that covers that period of his career. No more than that. Moreover, Help:Infobox_picture doesn't specify any criterion to go further about this issue . - Fma12 (talk) 16:41, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

@Fma12: Thanks for your response. But you incorrectly presumed you knew the basis for my question, and then challenged me to defend myself within your incorrect presumption. The fact is an infobox photo should be an actual photo. I certainly shouldn't need to debate with you that a posed trading card is not an actual photo. Also, since you referenced the style guide, under MOS:LEADIMAGE: "Lead images should be natural and appropriate representations of the topic; they should not only illustrate the topic specifically, but also be the type of image used for similar purposes in high-quality reference works, and therefore what our readers will expect to see." Emphases on "natural" and "high quality reference."

But also your image suggests he is only notable as an NFL football player. But as the BLP discusses, he is also notable as a film and television actor, a sports broadcaster, an author, a businessman, a civil rights activist and a community organizer. Your image also ignores his college football Hall of Fame career, as well as his college lacrosse Hall of Fame career. You said "as far as you know" he was mostly notable as a football player. Fair enough. But now that you know more and you understand he is more, do you think we can restore the prior photo without further objection? X4n6 (talk) 07:39, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

@X4n6: Thank your for introducing me to MOS:LEADIMAGE, it was really useful to learn more about the policies of this community. First of all, I didn't have any intention to challenge you, I only gave my opinion about the issue we're discussing so I didn't realise that my tone could be inappropriate. Please keep in mind that I like American football but I don't know the life of each player in detail, so my thought was Brown was mostly notable as player; in fact, such a notable player to be considered one of the greatest of all time.

Maybe I misunderstood you at first, when you inquired about the main photo (more precisely, the word "rationale" sounded a bit rude to me, but after our change of opinions, I realise I was wrong in that point). Of course the image can be changed for any photo you consider more appropriate. You are an experienced user and your deeper knowlegdement of the person concerned endorses you to edit the article with the modifications required. - Fma12 (talk) 11:37, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

@Fma12: It's so easy for discussions & disagreements on this forum to devolve into snarkfests. Which is why I rarely contribute as much as I used to. Words can be imprecise and meanings can be misinterpreted, then you're off to the races! Thank you for clarifying your intent with your gracious reply. I wasn't trying to be rude either. That word rationale is all over the place here, as you can see. But now that we're on the same page regarding the photo, I've changed it. I also rearranged some of the others for page composition. Please check it out and let me know if you're good with it. Thanks again. X4n6 (talk) 14:30, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

@X4n6: It's true. Words are often misinterpreted because writting always sounds "tougher" than oral communication. I have also had some "communication breakdown" with other users in the Wiki but then we could solve those little problems because 'people understand each other by talking things over' as we usually say in Argentina.

I took a look at your recent edit on Brown's page and it's perfect for me. I made only a little adjustment in some photos sizes to fit text and titles, no more than that. Please don't hesitate to contact me if you need to talk about any issue regarding articles or policies in Wiki. Be sure I'll do the same. Thanks again and best wishes. - Fma12 (talk) 10:07, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

@Fma12: Many thanks for your reply and your additional work on the article. I took a look and agree with your adjustments. Now we'll see how long they survive! These days I'm on the project infrequently, but absolutely feel free to send a note if I might help in any way. I also appreciate your offer of the same. Until next time, muchísimas gracias otra vez, happy editing and best regards. X4n6 (talk) 07:33, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Newspaper cover edit warring.

Hi, I'm notifying you that your recent edits to La Nación and Clarín are being reported to an administrator for edit warring. You should know that newspaper articles are allowed a non-free image in the English Wikipedia as long as it remains under 1000px in area. Multiple examples of this include The New York Times, El Pais, El Mercurio, and so on. --MewMeowth (talk) 14:41, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

@MewMeowth: Do hoy know what "edit warring" really is? I don't think so, considering your words about the changes I made. Before reporting or acussing other users of that, please take a look at this Wikipedia:Edit warring. My changes were in good faith but you don't seem to realise about that, or worse, you don't care. I'm going to reply your report –which is fallacious at all– a.s.a.p. - Fma12 (talk) 16:20, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

1999 Intercontinental Cup

You need to add some actual text to the article, not just a picture in an otherwise empty section. – PeeJay 19:12, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Why? Just because you determine this? I won't take orders from you. Fma12 (talk) 01:31, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Copying within Wikipedia requires attribution

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you copied or moved text from Early history of American football into McGill Redmen football. While you are welcome to re-use Wikipedia's content, here or elsewhere, Wikipedia's licensing does require that you provide attribution to the original contributor(s). When copying within Wikipedia, this is supplied at minimum in an edit summary at the page into which you've copied content, disclosing the copying and linking to the copied page, e.g., copied content from [[page name]]; see that page's history for attribution. It is good practice, especially if copying is extensive, to also place a properly formatted {{copied}} template on the talk pages of the source and destination. The attribution has been provided for this situation, but if you have copied material between pages before, even if it was a long time ago, please provide attribution for that duplication. You can read more about the procedure and the reasons at Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. Thank you. If you are the sole author of the prose that was copied, attribution is not required. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 11:55, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi, @Diannaa:, effectively, I copied text from Early history of American football into McGill Redmen football with the only purpose of improving the section regarding the first years of McGill football team. I didn't really know that this procedure required attribution, even more so in the case of longtime articles where the paragraph copied could have been edited/modified several times, and it's unclear to determine who was/were the contributors to give credit to him/them.

For future edits, I'll keep in mind this guide to mention the article of origin (in case I copy the text instead of writing it in prose). - Fma12 (talk) 22:00, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

September 2019

Your addition to Trading card has been removed in whole or in part, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted material, including text or images from print publications or from other websites, without an appropriate and verifiable license. All such contributions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images—you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously and persistent violators of our copyright policy will be blocked from editing. See Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources for more information. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 15:14, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Adding games to the CCG list

Hey just a heads up, I'm reverting your edits to the CCG List page, because from what I can tell a lot of them aren't CCGs. Batman Fluxx isn't a CCG and neither was The Walking Dead. Be sure you are correctly adding games that fit the criteria of a CCG. If you need clarification, head to collectible card game for the skinny. Leitmotiv (talk) 21:51, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

@Leitmotiv: I'll keep it in mind, thanks. - Fma12 (talk) 21:58, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

Another heads up, the Justice League, Batman, and others are a part of the Meta X game engine. Meta X is the game, and those are expansions of Meta X. Also don't delete perfectly good links to translated wiki articles. Leitmotiv (talk) 22:04, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

@Leitmotiv: In the case of TWD, I took the Cryptozoic website as reference to add it to the CCG list (see link here). In fact, the company itself refers to the game as The Walking Dead Card Game, launched in 2013.

Cryptozoic had also released a TWD board game (link here) two years before. Please check these links before reverting the change so those are two different games. My edits were in good faith although I'm not an expert in board/card games, so I'm learning while editing. - Fma12 (talk) 22:07, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

A card game does not make it a collectible card game. There is a distinction. Like I said, read up on the CCG wiki article for the definition. As a general rule, if you're curious, you could go to Board Game Geek to see if they define it as a CCG if you are unsure. They're not always accurate but 9 times out 10 they are. And btw, I did check your link before deleting. Leitmotiv (talk) 22:10, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

Anyway, I think I fixed the damage! haha, no worries. I appreciate the help and it's always good to see someone eager to edit it and get it more up to date. Leitmotiv (talk) 22:54, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

Football kit

Hi, there is a request, the kit of Hyderabad FC has unique pattern, here you can see. Can you please create the pattern for the article. I am also requesting some other editors who are active at Template:Football kit/pattern list in case you are busy. Thank you and please let me know. Dey subrata (talk) 01:21, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Dey subrata: thanks for contacting me. I really appreciate you like my kits. The Hyderabad FC has really an unique design and I'll be make one gladly. You'll seen it uploaded here soon. Promise. Fma12 (talk) 21:52, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Dey subrata (talk) 22:00, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

I totally forgotten about it :-) , may be you too, or may be busy. Actually, the league has started, so can you please proceed with the design. It will better if you directly upload it at the Hyderabad FC article. Thank you. Dey subrata (talk) 06:54, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Editor's Barnstar
	Thanks for the contributions you've been making to articles about guitar manufacturers! I really appreciate the work you're doing and enjoy seeing your edits show up on my watchlist. Nettrom (talk) 15:16, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

@Nettrom: Thank you for your recognition to my contributions! I'm really enjoying it so many guitar articles needed to be updated and/or expanded! And I have fun doing it. Be sure that I'll go on editing and improving as much as I can. ;) - Fma12 ([[User

A Dobos torte for you!

7&6=thirteen (☎) has given you a Dobos torte to enjoy! Seven layers of fun because you deserve it. To give a Dobos torte and spread the WikiLove, just place {{subst:Dobos Torte}} on someone else's talkpage, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:02, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

7&6=thirteen, many thanks for the torte and –mainly– the recognition to my contributions! I'll go on the work on cymbals and other musical instruments articles, thanks again! Best wishes Fma12 (talk) 23:06, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

Reebok Logo - Response. Black Version Correct

The black version is the correct logo requested from Reebok HQ where I work as an employee. This is the correct logo the company wants to show on wikipedia. See PR post https://news.reebok.com/global/latest-news/all/reebok-unifies-under-one-logo--one-wordmark/s/e3f32cff-6241-47cb-a1c1-1b8704dc4afc — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tardifkara (talk • contribs) 15:54, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

The black version is correct for black/white media, but not the only one.

The black logo is requested by Reebok Corporate HQ to be represented on the Wikipedia page. Please do not change. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tardifkara (talk • contribs) 14:47, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

@Tardifkara: I explained you the reasons for the color logo update. Don't revert a good faith edit or I'll report you. You've warned. If you disagree or think other logo is more suitable, discuss this on Reebok talk page. Fma12 (talk) 14:55, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

Okay I will make my correct statement on the Reebok Talk page and edit the logo once again to the most suitable Reebok logo (chosen by corporate HQ) and explain reasons. Thank you.

@Tardifkara: Don't modify anything, I've done it.Fma12 (talk) 15:02, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

Copyright discussion

Hello Fma12. Will you consider replying at Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2020 January 13? The status of {{Not-PD-US-URAA}} images on the English Wikipedia seems clear enough. Do you know of some reason why we should consider URAA images to be available for free use here? You have pointed out that these images are hosted on Commons. It seems these images are kept on Commons because other countries than USA consider them to be public domain within the respective countries. That shouldn't have any bearing on what we do here. I assume you aren't trying to change the URAA policy for the English Wikipedia. EdJohnston (talk) 19:18, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi, @EdJohnston:; I was not at home so I have left my feedback on the discussion. The point is clear enough for me now. Thanks. - Fma12 (talk) 20:38, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Club crests

Hello Fma. When uploading a new version of a club crest, please do it over the top of the old file, rather than create a new, separate file. This avoids creating orphaned non-free images, which you have numerous notifications about above. Also, non-free images should be less than 100,000 pixels in size – you can measure this by multiplying the height and width of an image.

With regards to your recent edits to the AFC Darwen badge (where you created a new file but then made the original file a Darwen FC logo), this messed up the copyright information as you failed to change the details of the original file (which still said it was used on AFC Darwen). I've cleaned this up (by turning your new file into the Darwen FC logo, but please be a bit more careful in future! Thanks, Number 57 13:53, 22 March 2020 (UTC)h

@Number 57: I don't usually overwrite older versions if they differ from the original (I mean, if the previous logo/emblem is completely different), in case other editors consider the old version may be kept on the article. And as a long-time contributor to Wikipedia, I have enough experience working with logos. Thanks for the advise anyway. - Fma12 (talk) 15:38, 9 July 2020 (UTC)