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Maps requested

Hi AB. It's not clear why you added the "map requested" tag to various Czech Republic related articles. If you want co-ordinates, you may use {{Coord missing}}. I would have thought, in general terms, coordinates are more useful than maps. Thoughts? Thanks, C679 13:31, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

@Cloudz679: First of all, thanks for your many contributions to CR-related articles. Yes, coordinates are more important than maps, but I think maps are also helpful to include in infoboxes. I am happy to add infoboxes with maps to articles after coordinates have been added. ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:29, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
So, I am trying to add maps to some of these articles, but I am having trouble converting the coordinates to the following format:


| pushpin_map = Czech Republic
| pushpin_mapsize =
| pushpin_map_caption = Location in the Czech Republic
| pushpin_label_position =
| latitude =
| longitude =
| coordinates_display = inline, title

I am used to this format in infoboxes, such as Angkor I , Ashurbanipal, etc. So, to pick a random article, in the František Palacký Monument, Prague article, how should {{Coord|50|4|22.86|N|14|24|53.41|E|display=title}} be displayed in the "latitute" and "longitude" parameters above? ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:43, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

You can get the decimals, 50.073017 14.414836 by using the GeoLocator tool at [1] and entering the existing info. Hope it is as useful for you as it has been for me! Thanks, C679 18:59, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the link. ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:01, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Please keep in mind that 6 or even 5 digits of precision in locations is often too much; see WP:OPCOORD. - Brianhe (talk) 05:19, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, Brianhe! ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:07, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

@Cloudz679: Thanks for continuing to add coordinates. You can see that I've been adding maps (Statue of Milan Rastislav Štefánik, Prague, Statue of John the Baptist, Maltézské Square, etc) when I understand how the coordinates work in the infobox. ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:47, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi AB, had a look at some of those articles and the maps provided just show that these things are in Prague. What is the point? The reader gets that from the text, and the precise co-ordinates from the code. FA-class articles on a similar topic, such as Crown Fountain do not provide a map, and others, like Nelson's Pillar, provide one within the context of the city centre only. How would you feel about removing/reformatting them? Just curious. Thanks, C679 15:39, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
@Cloudz679: Well, ideally, the Czech Republic maps would be replaced with maps of Prague, or even a district within Prague. This would be helpful for readers to identify locations. I won't revert your edits if you decide to remove the maps, but I think having maps is helpful so I am not inclined to remove them myself. If there is not a locator map of Prague, should we submit a request for one? I know someone who can help. ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:41, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
There is a map of greater Prague I have used in the past at Football in Prague, but I don't think it is very useful either. For the statues on the Charles Bridge, what would be ideal, after we've established the co-ordinates, is a map of the bridge itself. But that would be a lot of work! Same for Vysehrad cemetery, I suppose. And otherwise some kind of city centre one. Perhaps you could contact your, er, contact! Thanks, C679 15:59, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

@Tagishsimon: I wonder if you might be able to come to the rescue once again, this time for WikiProject Czech Republic. Are you willing and able to create a locator map of Prague? User:Cloudz679 has also requested maps for Charles Bridge and Vyšehrad cemetery. Cloudz, any other requests? ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:11, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

I'd be happy to do as many maps as you want, AB. I don't know Prague very well, but I can see from, for instance, Statue of Milan Rastislav Štefánik, Prague that a map of the park might be useful; and so with others, I can come up with a best guess at what might be appropriate. However, I'd be very happy if you or Cloudz679 fancy listing some coordinate pairs for me defining map areas you'd like (think: top-left & bottom-right, or top-right & bottom-left of the area) - you may well have a better idea than me of what provides appropriate context for a dot location.
If so, I'd suggest acme mapper for the job - the central crosshairs yield a coordinate in the bottom-left-of-screen box. So 50.09770 14.43697 & 50.07540 14.40848 for instance, give us the city centre from the Hlavkuv bridge to the Jirascuv bridge - i.e. 50°05′52″N 14°26′13″E / 50.09770°N 14.43697°E / 50.09770; 14.43697 to 50°04′31″N 14°24′31″E / 50.07540°N 14.40848°E / 50.07540; 14.40848).
Your help would be especially useful in the naming of the maps. If we take Milan Rastislav Štefánik's statue, I deduce the 'park' is in fact probably best named Petřín, something not very obvious from scanning the map. In short: help in defining areas and names would be much appreciated. C697, here's the Oregon map set by way of an illustration of the direction of AB's travel: these now sit in the infoboxes of many hundreds of Oregon articles and appear useful.
I'll watch this space, and drop anything I come up with here, until directed elsewhere. thanks --Tagishsimon (talk) 16:58, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
@Tagishsimon: Thank you so much for offering to help. @Cloudz679: I'll wait to see if you chime in here with specific requests/coordinates. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:03, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
@Tagishsimon:I suppose the centre should include the castle. Coordinates such as N 50.07121 E 14.44487 and N 50.09864 E 14.39182 could be tried, please? Map could be named something like "central Prague". Then N 50.06510 E 14.41903 and N 50.06275 E 14.41650 as Vysehrad. If there are no limitations on orientation, the Charles Bridge map would work best with a rotation; otherwise N 50.08595 E 14.41430 and N 50.08738 E 14.40676 would be a good bet, more or less... lastly Prague Castle would fit the bill too, somewhere around N 50.09240 E 14.40545 and N 50.08913 E 14.39764. Of course feel free to tweak the co-ordinates. Regarding other locations, nothing else springs to mind right now... Thank you so much for this, C679 19:56, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
@Cloudz679: Would maps for Malá Strana and Old Town be helpful, or does a general map of the city suffice? ---Another Believer (Talk) 20:00, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
By the way, I found "Czech Republic Prague" can be used as a locator map, so I will at least start using this for Prague sites, rather than the Czech Republic map. ---Another Believer (Talk) 20:04, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
Thanks Cloudz679. I'll start cranking these out in the next 24 hours or so. --Tagishsimon (talk) 22:34, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
👍 Like Thank you! ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:42, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

Here's a first delivery, AB & Cloudz679. I didn't do Vysehrad ... I was concerned that the area requested made a map which had insufficient context for anyone other than those that know those few streets very well. More generally, I'm having some sort of internal debate about what is the most appropriate level of detail in a locator map (which is what - 150px wide?). You see that coming out in the last two pairs, Prague Castle versus Prague - Hradčany, and Prague - Central Prague versus Prague - City Centre. Charles Bridge is of a very small area - mainly for the statues - and it works in my head because it's a bridge, there's a river, you'll find it. For a locator map for the Charles Bridge article, more context would be needed so the City Centre or Central Prague might work better. I'm happy to do more, and might do more in any event. Please do not hesitate to come up with items for your shopping lists.

In other news, AB: you're in Prague, which seems a long way away. As you're travelling, I have to commend New Delhi to your attention as a place crying out for pushpin location maps - excellent planned city layout. --Tagishsimon (talk) 22:08, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

Tagishsimon (talk · contribs) Thank you so, so much! I appreciate your time and assistance, and will start adding these maps to articles ASAP. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:16, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

They're quick to do when I pull my finger out. Let me know when you come across an article ill- or not-served by the maps we have, and I'll do more. You'll have a better clue than me as you're the one doing the applying (for which my thanks to you :). --Tagishsimon (talk) 22:34, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

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I just wanted to thank you for all the help with the numismatics articles. It is greatly appreciated.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:20, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

My work has been minimal, but thanks for the thanks! :) ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:39, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

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Yo, can you upload me a sample of the song from the 16 sec to the 34 sec mark? —IB [ Poke ] 10:22, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

@IndianBio: Hey, IB. I don't have any experience splicing or uploading audio files for Wikipedia articles. Is there another editor or WikiProject to ask for help? ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:44, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

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See also: Category talk:Sculptures by artist

"sculpture" is a singular and plural noun. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 05:52, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

@Carptrash: Sure, but all of the other categories are "Sculptures by XXX", so I figured consistency was best. ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:42, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
That's okay, I'm not going to be dick about it, I just prefer it the other way. It rolls off MY tongue better. But I also understand consistency, so thank you for cleaning up after me. Carptrash (talk) 17:45, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
@Carptrash: Hah! No worries. ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:02, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
Actually there might be more to worry about than you expect/suspect. I have just completed what for me is a major rant on the topic and it will show up somewhere shortly. I will alert you, please feel free to dismiss it if that seems appropriate. Carptrash (talk) 19:50, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
I certainly don't mind that you've started a discussion, nor am I opposed to "sculpture" if that's what consensus dictates. I just want there to be consistency at Category:Sculptures by artist. ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:52, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
"Consensus" is achieved by how you express your opinion of the talk page. I hope you will. Carptrash (talk) 20:21, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

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Thanks for your great work on American Horror Story TV series articles. I have added an image to the infobox in Pilot (American Horror Story). I guess adding relevant images to other episodes' infoboxes would be helpful for readers to capture the essence of each episode. Other great TV series (The X-Files, for example) do provide infobox images, though AHS features none.

I can start the work. I know images should be added for purpose, not just for decoration. What do you think?

Cheerz! Lamro (talk) 14:10, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

@Lamro: Infobox screenshots are great as long as they serve a purpose and are appropriately licensed. Thanks for improving these articles! ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:47, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

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Thank you! ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:45, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

A source for one of ``your`` articles...

Thought you might want to incorporate the following source into Donald Trump pseudonyms... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hitler-biography-ghostwritten_us_57f7cb7be4b0b6a43031af91

I find the article's use of the term "sockpuppet" particularly amusing for use in a Wikipedia article. :) Koala Tea Of Mercy (KTOM's Articulations & Invigilations) 20:51, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the link! I am traveling at the moment, but I've added the link to the article's talk page as a future reminder. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:38, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 41, 2016)

A spelling bee at Jhenidah Cadet College in Bangladesh
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Spelling bee

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List of songs recorded by Alyssa Milano

Hello! I have recently nominated List of songs recorded by Alyssa Milano for FL status. If possible, could you can review it and post comments on the discussion page? I was wondering if you could help me with this FLC since you have promoted music-related articles and lists in the past so I would appreciate any advice from a more experienced user. Thank you in advance either way. Aoba47 (talk) 14:59, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

I left a comment. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:31, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
Thank you! Aoba47 (talk) 19:44, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

New Cascadia related class...

FYI, I just stumbled across this: Wikipedia:Wiki_Ed/University_of_Washington/Interpersonal_Media_(). It looks like they will be working on at least a few Cascadia articles. - Brianhe (talk) 01:18, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

Whoops wrong link, let me find it. One of the articles is Bridge of Glass. - Brianhe (talk) 01:29, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
I hope this isn't unregistered but see User talk:Benjamin Mako Hill#Articles for Class - COM 597 - Brianhe (talk) 01:33, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
@Brianhe: Thanks for the heads up! I went ahead and added the course link to Wikipedia:Cascadia Wikimedians User Group. Glad we were able to connect this weekend! ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:04, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

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Advice

I may have a mild COI over some stuff related to Hanford (my grandfather was a chemist there). Some of the stuff I'm currently researching for Draft: Wahluke Slope intersects controversy related to the Hanford project. The chapter in Plutopia which I just added to the sources section is especially problematic. Thought you might have some advice on how to proceed? - Brianhe (talk) 20:22, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

@Brianhe: I say be bold and make the edits you believe are neutral. I trust your judgement. If you feel compelled, you could note your COI on the talk page and/or go on the record asking for an independent review from a related WikiProject. ---Another Believer (Talk) 20:32, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 42, 2016)

NASA researchers at Glenn Research Center conducting tests on aircraft engine noise in 1967
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Noise

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Release the Stars

Hello:

The copy edit that you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article Release the Stars has been completed.

I stumbled upon the fact that citation #5 - an interview with Wainwright in The Independent - now links to a completely different article. I have tagged this as a "dead link" and, as a result, most of the first paragraph of the section "Conception and Development" will have to be removed if another source cannot be located. I had a quick, unsuccessful look. A later link I needed to check is also "dead". I did not check the rest to determine if they are still active. It's a shame that these were not archived.

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

Kind regards,

Twofingered Typist (talk) 13:27, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Thank you so much! Will review momentarily... ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:17, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Roses in Portland, Oregon

Hello:

The copy edit that you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article Roses in Portland, Oregon has been completed. It must be a spectacular sight to see all those roses in bloom!

Unfortunately citation #5 appears to be a dead link. I did not check any other URLs.

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

Regards,

Twofingered Typist (talk) 21:41, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

@Twofingered Typist: Thank you so much! ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:04, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Buddy Holly template

Hello,

You've contributed to Buddy Holly template. There's a conflict on it and I'd like you to give your opinion. Elfast (talk) 16:37, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

An invitation to November's events


November 2016

Announcing two exciting online editathons
Women in Food and Drink and Women Writers
as well as our strong support for articles on women in connection with
Wikipedia Asian Month
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This week's article for improvement (week 43, 2016)

The attic at a factory
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Attic

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Invitation from Wikipedia Asian Month 2016

Thanks for partipating Wikipedia Asian Month last year, and I hope you enjoy it. Last year, more than 7,000 articles contribute to Wikipedia in 43 languages in Wikipedia Asian Month, making us one of the largest event on Wikipedia. We will organize this event again in upcoming November, and would like to invite you join us again.

This year, we are lowering down the standards that you only need to create 4 (Four) articles to receive a postcard (new design), and articles only need to be more than 3,000 bytes and 300 words. We are also improving our postcard sending process, e.g. making the postcards right now, and collecting the address after the event ends without waiting other languges.

Wikipedians who create the most articles on each Wikipedia will be honored as "Wikipedia Asian Ambassadors". We will send you both digital copy, and a paper copy of the Ambassador certificate.

Thank you for considering! --AddisWang (talk)
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Briarcliff Manor

Hi Another Believer,

I would like to request you to self-revert. I don't believe your recent edits are constructive. Image policies and guidelines allow for and actually recommend changing the sizing of images. I largely only scaled down photos of low-resolution portraits, where the extra size would only be obtrusive. As well, I tried to largely have images balanced between the left and right sides as is recommended, something you changed in one instance. I also removed full stops from image captions for consistency, which I believe is important for featured articles.

Please keep in mind that this has gone through extensive reviews to get to its current article class, and thus a majority of editors were satisfied with the image placements, sizing, and other issues. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 00:06, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

@Ɱ: With all due respect, I stand by my edits, but you are welcome to revert. Congratulations on a beautiful article. I believe my edits are constructive and make the article look cleaner (with regular upright images). I appreciate image staggering, but in one case I thought the left alignment interfered with the see also link at the top of the section. Also, I thought captions should always have punctuation if they are full sentences. I certainly recognize and respect that many others have reviewed the article, but also believe improvements can always be made. Again, I stand by my edits, but I won't revert if you undo my changes. And, again, congrats on a wonderful article. ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:14, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

"Til It Happens to You"

Me and another user are going back and forth in editing the til it happens to you article. I feel like nothing is wrong with my edit. Since you created the page maybe you could look it over and determine what looks better to you. I'm trying to keep it consistent with what I've seen on other wikipedia pages. thanks --Jennica✿ Talk 19:36, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

@Jennica: I prefer not to get involved, but I do believe "Critical reception" and "Commercial performance" are most common. ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:43, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
@Another Believer: I cited that in my edit. I also feel like Diane's photo flows better when placed on the right side. Thanks BTW what does it mean when another editor says TW in the edit comment? --Jennica✿ Talk 19:45, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
@Jennica: I agree, actually, regarding the image of Diane. But some editors feel strongly about staggering. I especially prefer right-aligned imagery when quote boxes are affected by their placement. Can you show me the diff with "TW"? ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:49, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
Oh, I think you mean the automatically-added designation for edits made using Wikipedia:Twinkle. ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:50, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

@IndianBio: Honestly. what is the obsession with having the image on the left? The article looks discombobulated. Just because you have "barnstars" doesn't make you the end all voice in all of this.

Please, can you discuss this calmly on the article's talk page (or User:IndianBio's) and not mine? Try explaining your preference and be sure not to engage in edit warring. Thanks, ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:17, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
Apologies. Jennica✿ Talk 21:20, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
@Jennica: No worries. No offense taken, I just think the article's talk page is the best place to discuss in case other page watchers also wish to participate. ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:22, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

Nostalgic for the Present Tour

Thanks for the images. Can you find a free image of Sia with the wig? I haven't seen one, and we really need one. -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:52, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

@Ssilvers: No problem. I wish the image could be incorporated into the article's prose, but there doesn't seem to be much room. Unfortunately, I cannot find any free Sia w/ wig images at Flickr. ---Another Believer (Talk) 20:56, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for looking. -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:48, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

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Street food vendors at a roadside market just outside of Hua Hin District, Thailand
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Rufus Wainwright (album)

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Rufus Wainwright (album)

@Twofingered Typist: Thanks again! ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:02, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia Asian Month!

Hi there! Wikipedia Asian Month is about to start. Here is some information about participating in the event:

  1. Please submit your articles via this tool. Click 'log in' at the top-right and OAuth will take care the rest. You can also change the interface language at the top-right.
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Books and Bytes - Issue 19

The Wikipedia Library

Books & Bytes
Issue 19, September–October 2016
by Nikkimaria, Sadads and UY Scuti

  • New and expanded donations - Foreign Affairs, Open Edition, and many more
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  • Spotlight: Fixing one million broken links

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WikiCup 2016 November newsletter: Final results

The final round of the 2016 WikiCup is over. Congratulations to the 2016 WikiCup top three finalists:

In addition to recognizing the achievements of the top finishers and everyone who worked hard to make it to the final round, we also want to recognize those participants who were most productive in each of the WikiCup scoring categories:

  • Featured Article – Cas Liber (actually a three-way tie with themselves for two FAs in each of R2, R3, and R5).
  • Good Article – MPJ-DK had 14 GAs promoted in R3.
  • Featured List – England Calvin999 (submissions) produced 2 FLs in R2
  • Featured Pictures – Adam Cuerden restored 18 images to FP status in R4.
  • Featured Portal – Yakutsk SSTflyer (submissions) produced the only FPO of the Cup in R2.
  • Featured Topic – Connecticut Cyclonebiskit (submissions) and Calvin were each responsible for one FT in R3 and R2, respectively.
  • Good Topic – MPJ-DK created a GT with 9 GAs in R5.
  • Did You Know – MPJ-DK put 53 DYKs on the main page in R4.
  • In The News – India Dharmadhyaksha (submissions) and New York City Muboshgu (submissions), each with 5 ITN, both in R4.
  • Good Article Review – MPJ-DK completed 61 GARs in R2.

Over the course of the 2016 WikiCup the following content was added to Wikipedia (only reporting on fixed value categories): 17 Featured Articles, 183 Good Articles, 8 Featured Lists, 87 Featured Pictures, 40 In The News, and 321 Good Article Reviews. Thank you to all the competitors for your hard work and what you have done to improve Wikipedia.--MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:52, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

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WikiProject Good Articles's 2016-2017 GA Cup

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We would like to announce the start of the 4th GA Cup, a competition that seeks to encourage the reviewing of Good article nominations! Thus far, there have been three GA Cups, which were successful in reaching our goals of significantly reducing the traditionally long queue at GAN, so we're doing it again. Currently, there are over 400 nominations listed. We hope that we can again make an impact this time.

The 4th GA Cup will begin on November 1, 2016. Four rounds are currently scheduled (which will bring the competition to a close on February 28, 2017), but this may change based on participant numbers. We may take a break in December for the holidays, depending on the results of a poll of our participants taken shortly after the competition begins. The sign-up and submissions process will remain the same, as will the scoring.

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50,000 Challenge

Hi. Thanks for your work on this. Is it possible though that you could ask people permission/get them to join first before adding their entries to the list? Some are of lower quality, let's avoid adding the lower quality/poorly sourced ones and keep the entries decent new articles and improvements. Stubs are OK if meatier and sourced.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:47, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

I see where you are coming from, but I'm already spending a lot of time finding and tagging articles. Sending invitations is just another time-consuming task. Perhaps someone else could go through the list and send invites? As for short vs. meatier stubs, I'm just going to keep tagging unless asked to stop. Others can decide if tagged articles should not be included, but I've seen some articles improved since being tagged, so I lean towards tagging and encouraging others to help expand and improve less-than-ideal stubs. --Another Believer (Talk) 15:35, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

Long term maintenance

Hi, are you sure you're up for maintaining those talk page tags and ticks long term? It might get tricky as more sub challenges are launched to keep track of but up to you, I appreciate the effort you've put in so far! I think it might be best to create a combined sub one of Washington and Oregon and call it Pacific Northwest or something, is that OK?♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:09, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

@Dr. Blofeld: I don't know, to be honest. I am doing what I can do, but having subpages definitely complicates things a bit in terms of reconciling the category with multiple lists (even though I like the idea of subpages, in general). We'll see what happens... I don't have a problem combining Oregon and Washington. If you need to create a WikiProject subgpage, like you did for California and New York, one option is WikiProject Cascadia (which also applies to Idaho). If Wikipedia:WikiProject Cascadia/The 1000 Challenge is too confusing, then maybe Wikipedia:WikiProject United States/The 50,000 Challenge/Pacific Northwest? ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:14, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
@JJBers: Looping you into this conversation (re: subpages, reconciling the number of entries, etc.), if you are interested. We can move this discussion over to a campaign talk page, too, if that's a better platform than my own talk page. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:16, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
Yeah I think Wikipedia:WikiProject United States/The 50,000 Challenge/Pacific Northwest would be more suitable. Or Wikipedia:WikiProject United States/The 50,000 Challenge/Northwest and include Montana and Idaho or something? Not opposed to separate challenges for Oregon and Washington, both states have great editors, but I spotted some double names from both so thought longer term it might work better as one. Anyway we'll give a few state/regional smaller challenges a trial, if we feel it complicates things and not enough steam to power them we can always merge back. It's very positive that we're starting to get people from a lot of different states to keep up diversity and widespread coverage for the main list anyway! Cheers AB!♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:31, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
(edit conflict) @Dr. Blofeld: Sounds good re: Pacific Northwest for Oregon/Washington. Editors in the region are used to working together, per Wikipedia:Cascadia Wikimedians User Group. We could easily maintain separate OR and WA lists on the subpage, if one is created. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:36, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
Good idea, 500 articles for each state might encourage more output and some healthy competition haha. OK, I'm going to set one up for the Pacific Northwest as this area has some of the best US editors working on it!.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:38, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Here we go :-) Wikipedia:WikiProject United States/The 50,000 Challenge/Pacific Northwest. Handing over the keys. I think long term is would be best to scrap the talk page banner and ticks though, anything which requires a lot of work outside articles should be kept to a minimum I think, but up to you. The main list can be updated with every 10, 50 or 100 articles, up to you. I just want it to all still be manageable and productive!♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:06, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Yale Union Laundry Building

Hello:

The copy edit that you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article Yale Union Laundry Building has been completed.

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

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Twofingered Typist (talk) 19:32, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

@Twofingered Typist: Thank you so much! ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:32, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

Template:Refimprove at Missouri stub articles

I don't understand why you have been tagging the new Missouri stub articles I created with Template:Refimprove. These articles should all be fully sourced unless they have been edited by someone else (being that these stubs are about obscure communitites and streams they most likely have not been recently edited). Why not simply add a Template:Cn if needed instead of the intrusive and unwarranted Refimprove box.– Gilliam (talk) 20:23, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

@Gilliam: Sorry, Gilliam. My intention was simply to encourage other editors to expand these articles by adding more content and sources. I didn't mean to offend. ---Another Believer (Talk) 20:26, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
I just noticed that there is an article-writing contest going on. So I can see where you are coming from. But for me, writing these sort of articles is a pasttime and something I do in my down time at work. I do pore over available online sources and will paraphrase any information I can find, but unfortunately sometimes sources are limited. In any case, I don't bother to write an article if I can't find something to say regarding the feature's history. I'm going to revert the Refimprove templates in good faith.– Gilliam (talk) 20:36, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
@Gilliam: OK, I understand. Thanks for letting me know. ---Another Believer (Talk) 20:48, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

Creating drafts to remove redirects I created

I don't mean to come onto your talk page argumentatively, but you've done this three times now. You create a draft for a page that already has a redirect that I created, then you work on the draft, and request it be moved so my creation of the redirect is effectively erased because the original page has to be deleted in order for your page to be moved into the main namespace. You did it for The Get Down (soundtrack), and most recently Fake Love, and Sneakin'. You create a tonne of redirects; surely you wouldn't like it if every editor who wanted to create content for that article made a draft, worked on it then requested it be moved into the main namespace and erase the fact you created the redirect. Most editors work on the content at the redirect, even if they doubt it's notable enough to be in the main namespace, and tag it, or work in a sandbox and then paste the content, not create a draft and effectively erase whoever created the redirect first. As I said, I don't understand this because you create a bunch of redirects expecting that the content for them will be created soon, so I don't know why you do it to others. Ss112 01:38, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

@Ss112: Hi! So, I think you're interpreting my actions a bit differently than I see them. I don't create drafts in an effort to override redirects. I create drafts when I question if an article would pass AfD, especially for music articles (just like the examples you mentioned above). As you pointed out, I create redirects all the time, and I often see these redirects expanded by other editors but then quickly reverted or even nominated for deletion. When I create drafts, it's because I think some work in the draft space is needed while I see if notability can be established. Sometimes other editors move drafts over redirects, and I've submitted a couple requests myself. But that's just because I figure that's better than copying and pasting the draft, then requesting it's deletion, all for the sake of preserving the original redirect. Does that make sense? I'm glad you pointed this out to me, and I'll try to be more careful about existing redirects, but I don't mean to offend and I haven't been circumventing redirects created by you or anyone else on purpose. I create a lot of redirects and articles, so some of my edits are guaranteed to conflict with those made by others. I don't find your note argumentative. Thanks for stopping by (and for your many contributions to Wikipedia)! ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:55, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
One more thought: You said, "surely you wouldn't like it if every editor who wanted to create content for that article made a draft, worked on it then requested it be moved into the main namespace and erase the fact you created the redirect." You know, that's not my primary concern when I'm editing Wikipedia, but I can see how that would be annoying. I don't race to be the first to create redirects, but I do create redirects all the time. Again, I'll try to pay more attention, especially to your work since you've raised the issue here. ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:58, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation, and I really have to say you're definitely one of the nicest users I've come across in my years on Wikipedia. Many other users would have definitely jumped immediately to a stand-offish response (and many indeed do). You may not think so, but you should definitely consider adminship one day! Ss112 04:53, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
@Ss112: Thanks for your kind words and encouragement. I've been asked to be an admin about 2 dozen times over the years. I go back and forth, and think some of the tools would be helpful, but I haven't taken the plunge yet! ;) ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:49, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

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You and I (Lady Gaga song)

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The copy edit that you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article You and I (Lady Gaga song) has been completed.

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Twofingered Typist (talk) 21:21, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

Thank you very much! ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:24, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

For helping me realizing my list needs more work. — JJBers|talk 22:18, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
@JJBers: Hah! No, actually I'm just feeling like I'm creating more work for us. Is copying over entries to the state by state page helpful? ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:19, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
@Another Believer: I'll probaly mange the list myself, and copy myself after this, so everything after now will be mostly on me, so the commuinty won't have to do much work except bweteen 3 am UTC to 7 pm UTC (on week days, on week ends to 2 pm UTC) — JJBers|talk 22:25, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
@JJBers: OK, I am going through the list and making some changes now, too. Be sure to edit sections only, so we don't create edit conflicts for one another. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:26, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
Quickly, I just notcied, I can wait but, I meant the current list percentages, not all of them, if you see this post removal, I can re-add them.— JJBers|talk 22:30, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
@JJBers: OK, sorry, I won't touch any of the percentages anymore. Feel free to return or update what percentages you see fit. I will focus solely on adding entries and let you worry about the numbers. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:31, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
@Another Believer: That seems fine, and I'll wait until your done not to cause any edit conflicts.— JJBers|talk 22:33, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
@JJBers: Sounds good. Though, I don't think we will have edit conflicts if we stick to editing single subsections at the same time. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:34, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
@Another Believer: Nah, I got time to track the election, I can wait.— JJBers|talk 22:37, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
Also sorry for being stand-offish to you, I was up for DST, and that isn't that great.— JJBers|talk 22:46, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Civility Barnstar
Thanks for not getting mad at me. I'm not really trying to be mad. Thanks — JJBers|talk 22:48, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 45, 2016)

A sword dance performance
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Sword dance

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Drafts from Wikipedia:MeetupAndFeminism 2016

Hi, Jason!

First, here’s an update on the issue of "stale drafts" from the Wikipedia:Meetup/Eugene/ArtAndFeminism 2016 biographies that I created for the event: I discovered by accident (actually I checked "What links here" for the Sally Bush draft I'd been working on) that they had almost all been tagged by a bot as stale, based on 6 months' inactivity. The only drafts on my userpage not on the stale list were the ones edited at least once within that 6 month window — even a revision by a bot correcting miscellaneous errors. None of the drafts had been deleted, as the bot seems only to generate an administrative list. I made revisions to each of the drafts on 4 Nov, and the tag disappeared from all the drafts when the bot generated its weekly Saturday update. That's the good news. The bad news is there seems to be disagreement on the 6-month window and the differences between draftspace and drafts in userspace. The discussion is a confusing read, to say the least.

Second, I would appreciate your advice on how to present a citation that is buried several layers under the only URL for a series of web pages from the 1998 Santa Monica Museum of Art catalog. The exhibitions url has 33 linked images to various artists, with the image linked to Megan Williams in the 3rd row, 5th link, which goes to an essay apparently from the exhibit brochure that discusses the artist's work in some depth. That page also has a link to an artist bio. Here’s the problem: the two pages I want to cite have urls identical to the catalog's exhibitions url. Finding the bio and the essay is difficult enough to describe in the citation, but it gets worse. The text on both these pages is faint and in about a 2 pt font; the scroll-down, scroll-up buttons scroll at light speed; and the essay box can only be enlarged by first enlarging the text size of the previous page. Have you encountered this type of buried url before? Any suggestions? Maybe a footnote or two? I appreciate your help, as always.

Cheers! — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 21:21, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

@Grand'mere Eugene: Thanks for stopping by. Let me tackle these one at a time. Do you have a question or concern re: drafts and whether or not WikiProject Oregon is able to tag draft articles? Personally, I think we should be able to tag articles, but we should also not be afraid to request that drafts be deleted if they are inappropriate, unnecessary, or unlikely to be expanded. ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:21, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
The recent discussion on WikiProject Oregon reminded me of our conversation back in March about the drafts not moved to article space after the event in Eugene. It now appears from the restructuring proposal for stale drafts that the 6-month window to move a draft to article space is not a hard/fast rule. Anyway, I may just find a few more resources and move some of the drafts to stubs in article space. Or I suppose I could just tag them as draft articles. One or two may not meet GNG for lack of substantive coverage, without more research. I'll try to be more diligent in whittling down the list. – Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 00:38, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
@Grand'mere Eugene: I think tagging the drafts is a good idea, but I also support adding sources and moving them into the main space. I'd rather the community have a chance to either improve or nominate articles for deletion then have drafts sitting in limbo forever, but editors have differing opinions about drafts and stubs, etc. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:19, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
@Grand'mere Eugene: Regarding your second paragraph: Oy, I hate when this happens. What I usually try to do is add user verification instructions as a note at the end of the source. Does something like this work? Of course, feel free to revert. Another option is to use the "quote" parameter within the inline citation template to quote specific text that may be difficult for the user to find otherwise. Does this make sense? ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:27, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, the note you suggest is exactly what I was looking for. I'm guessing that the Museum's web page was constructed by an artist rather than someone with web design expertise. Sheesh. Thanks again for your help. Cheers! – Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 00:38, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
@Grand'mere Eugene: Oh, great! Glad I could help. Yes, those sorts of websites are the worst... ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:20, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Favor/favor?

I am willing to help with "Joanne (song)", but can I have help finding sources for "Old Money" by Lana Del Rey? It's a notable song as it charted and samples a classic song. Thanks if yes. Aleccat (talk) 00:04, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

@Aleccat: Sorry, but I am totally swamped with Wikipedia projects right now. You don't have to help with "Joanne" if you don't want to... I was just offering a suggestion. I love LDR, but I have too many other articles to work on at the moment. Best of luck! ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:16, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. Aleccat (talk) 00:39, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Montrose Center DYK

Hi, I know that you created the Montrose Center page, and I very much appreciate you helping me improve it! I wanted to let you know that I submitted it for DYK on Nov. 2nd, and it received a maybe because of a question about sourcing neutrality. I was wondering if you would be willing to help me in some way, because I would love for this article to be featured on DYK. Thank you so much, Kmwebber (talk) 18:04, 8 November 2016 (UTC)Kmwebber

@Kmwebber: It looks like the main concern is that your proposed DYK hook is verified by a Montrose Center source. If there is a non-MC source that can be added as an inline citation, I'd add one then leave a note on the DYK nomination page (Template:Did you know nominations/Montrose Center) saying you've improved sourcing. ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:19, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Montrose Center

Hi, I just wanted to let you know that I appreciate it very much that you liked the work I contributed to the Montrose Center page. I felt really passionately about the project, and I will definitely nominate it for Good Article status! Also thank you for all the kind words and the barn star. I will definitely reach out to you if I work on any Houston/LGBT related articles in the future (which I'm planning to do over my winter break/when finals end). Thank you again, and I hope to hear from you soon. Kmwebber (talk) 21:59, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

👍 Like ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:00, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Best way to cover DC cannabis topic? Your input requested

Please see here: Talk:Initiative_71#Rename_to_Cannabis_in_Washington.2C_D._C..2C_split_off.2C_or_what.3F

Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney (talk) 23:19, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Replied on article's talk page. ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:34, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

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Improving chart at Legality of cannabis by U.S. jurisdiction

This article is the most-viewed page for cannabis issues in the US (~1,500 views/day). I think we can streamline it to make it less clunky and more intuitive for readers, especially now that we have state-specific articles for all US states. Your feedback is invited: Talk:Legality_of_cannabis_by_U.S._jurisdiction#Changes_to_chart.3F. Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney (talk) 19:47, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Special Barnstar
Thanks for filling my role in a page for a while! — JJBers|talk 00:42, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
@JJBers: No worries! Unfortunately, today I noticed the master list is #410 and the category only has #409. I can't figure out the cause of the discrepancy, but perhaps some article was deleted (or more likely, redirected, since I don't see any red links in the list). Oh well, was nice having a reconciled list while it lasted, lol. ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:44, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
Or, perhaps an entry is listed twice, but I'm not seeing a duplicate. ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:47, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
@JJBers: I found the duplicate, so crisis averted! :p ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:07, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Editing at Protests against Donald Trump

Apparently we're editing at the same time too much on that article, so I got confused by all the edit conflicts. Parsley Man (talk) 02:13, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

@Parsley Man: No worries! I think the 15em is better than the small text forced 3-column arrangement. Sorry for the conflicts! ---Another Believer (Talk) 02:14, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

She can nominate all she wants...

...but they still won't count. Hi, can you please help put this article to bed somehow (delete or merge, etc. Merge into her campaign page may be a good way to go). I've added the newly minted main {{Donald Trump}} template to most of the pages, and some of the other new templates (family, presidency) don't seem to be needed as most primary presidential templates carry this information. Even the business template can be folded into the template as a second sub-section. Thanks. I will get back to you when Jill Stein starts nominating judges. Randy Kryn 15:39, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Nomination of USA Freedom Kids for deletion

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Mei-Ann Chen

Hello:

The copy edit that you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article Mei-Ann Chen has been completed. I was sorry to read that this is perhaps your last GOCE submission. I have enjoyed "working" on "your" articles; you've obviously put a tremendous amount of effort into them - and it shows in their quality.

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

All the best,

Twofingered Typist (talk) 15:22, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

@Twofingered Typist: Thank you so much! And don't worry, I'll be back with more, but for a while I was just going down the list of GAs I promoted. :) ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:38, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

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Changes to Infobox artwork

These infobox artwork discussions may be of interest to you. Also, the template has been updated to make it easier to use the {{coord}} template. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:08, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

@Jonesey95: Thanks for the heads up. I am currently traveling but will take a look as soon as I am back and able. ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:06, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
As of 19 days ago, I've informed been informed, by Wikipedia, that I've done over 10,000 edits, since, I started in 2011.

I hope you don't think my edits are annoying and unnecessary.

I wasn't trying to interfere or destroy the excellent content, within this article. I just felt it could be improved with a great photo, provide more detailed, quick, reference information, in the InfoBox, and sub-categorizing the paragraph headings, for easier reading.

Don't take this the wrong way, but I thought Wiki was supposed to be a shared collaborative effort, where we help each other improve article. I am very serious and committed to the future of Wikipedia. Most people I know think what we do is a joke and a waste of time..They laugh a lot, about it. If I didn't enjoy doing what we do, I would have definitely quit, along time ago. 

Chitt66 (talk) 02:24, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
@Chitt66: Thanks for the message and barnstar. I didn't think your contributions to the article were annoying. While I don't think the additional section subheadings are necessary, I've invited the article's co-author to review your proposed changes and implement appropriately. I definitely appreciate that you uploaded the image, which I added back to the article after my revert. I also changed the "Notes and references" heading per your suggestion. This article is currently scheduled to receive a copy edit from the Guid of Copy Editors and is nominated for Good article status, so others will be reviewing the article soon. Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia! (I am surprised people 'laugh' at you for editing Wikipedia; people often thank me and ask lots of interesting questions when they learn that I am a daily editor.) ---Another Believer (Talk) 02:38, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
@Chitt66: I agree with what Another Believer says above. I've been the main contributor to the article, though I haven't touched it in quite a while. I doubt that many other editors will want additional subheadings, but if the Good Article reviewers think more are needed, they could easily be added. Finetooth (talk) 02:59, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Congrats

Congrats on the promotion to featured status of Hands Across Hawthorne. I missed seeing this when it happened but noticed it in this week's Signpost. You are doing a plethora of really good articles on a variety of interesting topics. Glad to see it. Finetooth (talk) 03:06, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

@Finetooth: Thank you so much! I've been looking at some of "my" Good articles and seeing if they might meet FA status. The Hands Across Hawthorne article was my first FA nomination in a while, so I was a little apprehensive, but I'm glad I took the plunge and hope to find a couple more to promote in the near future. ---Another Believer (Talk) 03:09, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

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match you on OR nrhp improvements?

Hi, FYI i think you're a prolific contributor who has done a lot of good work, including with the Pacific Northwest Challenge recently. You will have noticed I have tried to contribute there. In the process, by the way, I have slightly or moderately expanded all of the Oregon NRHP articles that I ever created which still had "NRIS-only" tagging on them. Currently per wp:NRHPprogress there are 47 more "NRIS-only" articles in Oregon, out of 870 stub NRHP articles in Oregon. I have also created a few new Oregon NRHP articles so that some progress would show in the Wikipedia:The 50,000 Challenge/Pacific Northwest#Missing Oregon articles section that you set up. But rather than create more new articles, I wonder if it would be better for morale of your fellow Oregon editors if I/we worked on more of the older NRHP articles that are really minimal. I list some of these at User:Doncram/Batch-OR-WA-plus. You yourself created a lot of minimal NRHP articles in June, July, August of 2011 and perhaps at other times, including in this chunk of your contributions history back in June 2011. This is/was perfectly fine IMO. However I wonder if you'd like to work with me to expand a bunch of them. As you know there are NRHP nomination documents available online now for almost all of these old ones.

It occurs to me, how 'bout doing a challenge within the challenge, that we match each other for expansions of these? I would be willing if you would, and to keep track here, or at a subpage in your userspace, or at User:Doncram/Batch-OR-WA-plus. BTW I see some grumbling at Wikipedia talk:The 50,000 Challenge#Proposed Guidelines about how many sentences or characters should be required for expansions to count, and I personally am happy to accept any requirement (e.g. 3 or 6 sentences or 350 or 750 characters) to define what counts as an expansion. I would be willing to jumpstart a bunch by using AWB to paste in NRHP nomination documents into a group of them in-progress, for either of us to expand, if you'd be game. If not, no problem, and I think I'll continue on in other U.S. state areas. cheers, --doncram 23:19, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

@Doncram: Thanks for your kind words, and for working on Oregon NRHP articles. Some editor don't like that I create so many stubs, but my stance is that stubs are better than nothing, and I'd rather create a sub-stub for future expansion than have nothing, in an attempt to encourage editing. I like your idea, but unfortunately I don't feel like I can commit to your specific proposal because my Wikipedia editing is all over the place and I don't know that I can dedicate myself to expanding NRHP articles specifically. I am also pulling back from the WPUS50 challenge a bit because all of the rule-changing and many sub campaigns is making the reconciliation process less fun and too time-consuming. I'll likely still add new U.S.-related articles I create, though, without worrying about the specific rules being outlined on the talk page. I do plan to bookmark your "Batch-OR-WA-plus" link and hope to tackle some of these when I have the time and interest. I do enjoy working on NRHP articles now and then (you'll notice some of my GAs are such), but I also work on many other types of articles and participate in lots of other content creation campaigns around Wikipedia. Thanks again for your work and I do hope to see some more Oregon NRHP articles by you in the future. ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:28, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

Problem at 2016 Ohio State University attack

We have an editor who's persistently trying to categorize the article as an Islamic terrorist attack, despite the talk page discussion. I've already wasted my three reverts and am definitely not going to shoot for a fourth. I need some help here... Parsley Man (talk) 03:06, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

WikiConference North America Barnstar
Thank you for the role you played at WikiConference North America 2016. This year's conference could not have been a success without your contributions and we hope you will continue to be involved in 2017. On behalf of WikiConference North America - Gamaliel (talk) 23:59, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
@Gamaliel: Thank you so much! I'm already looking forward to next year's activities. ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:07, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Rename Legal history of cannabis in Canada to Cannabis in Canada?

Your comments solicited here: Talk:Legal_history_of_cannabis_in_Canada#Rename_Cannabis_in_Canada_or_create_new_article.3F. Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney (talk) 08:11, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

 Done ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:55, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
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