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Good articleS Club has been listed as one of the Music good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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DateProcessResult
October 17, 2007Good article nomineeListed
January 19, 2008Peer reviewReviewed
April 9, 2008Featured article candidateNot promoted
November 6, 2008Peer reviewReviewed
Current status: Good article

Genre?[edit]

Are they really Britpop, because Britpop is a type of alternative rock and they are definitely not alternative. DavidJJJ 07:57, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

d00d s club 7 is SOOOOOO alternative! u r a idiot. If u listened to s club 7 every day like I do, u would know that they have alternative influencez.
Are you for real? If you are being sarcastic, good for you. If you're not, please learn to spell before voicing your opinions.141.211.173.132 04:50, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with the above. I just hope you can speak better english than you can write.

Why would something called "Britpop" be a kind of alternative music? That makes no sense. Whenever I hear Britpop, I think British pop music, not alternative rock. Wouldn't it make more sense to call that Britrock or something? Britpop conjurs up different images. Socalledboothy 17:46, 1 November 2006 (UTC) WTF they ARE POP! POP. POP POP POP![reply]

Britpop by definition is bands such as oasis, blur etc, bands of the early 1990's which signalled the revival of the british pop scene. S club, however good, are of no such class to be defined as britpop, and their style of music isn't britpop. The top poster is correct, britpop is alterntive music. look it up if you will and s club are definately just POP!

Be polite... yo...didn't yous all read the "talk page guidlines"? BE POLITE... And who ever wrote "I just hope you can speak better english than you can write" should worry about their own writing before they worry about anybody else's. S club cannot in anyway be considered alternative since they were a "manufactured" POP band. 'nuf said.

No they shouldnt, that was fair comment. Nit picking whinging fool.

NPOV.[edit]

Here's a few reasons why I added the NPOV template:

"'Never Had a Dream Come True' marked a more mature direction for the group which retained their pop sensibilities whilst broadening their appeal to a more adult audience. However, it was their next single which really proved to their breakthrough in this respect. "Don't Stop Movin'" was a classy dance/pop song..."

"...it included a number of other very-strong tracks..."

"In many ways, S Club were an anachronism by 2003, with the musical landscape having shifted away from such overtly-'manufactured' groups towards a more 'organic' presentation with groups being presented as writing their own songs and playing their own instruments. Nonetheless, their relatively-long career (for this genre) is noteworthy. Unlike many 'pop' groups, they did not rely on cover versions to generate hit singles: "Natural" was the closest they came to releasing a cover version as a single, as this song was based on a French song which in turn had sampled Gabriel Faure's "Pavane." - Rocket000 06:00, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

REACH[edit]

This song is featured in the USA Craftmatic 2 comemrcial. I recognized it almost instantly even though it was entirelyu intsrumental.09:07, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Request for semi-protection[edit]

We've had a long wave of vandalism since the Big Brother race row.. so I've requested the page for semi-protection. - ǀ Mikay ǀ 17:51, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Sclub7-7(original).jpg[edit]

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opening paragraph[edit]

changing it from

S Club were a BRIT Award-winning English pop group...

to

S Club (formerly known as S Club 7) were a BRIT Award-winning English pop group...

Any qualms discuss. seven+one 20:16, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Improving the article[edit]

I've made a good start adding sources and citing various statements, as well as making a couple of stylistic changes here and there. I think the way to go next will be to improve the History and split it up into "Eras" as many other music articles have done. - ǀ Mikay ǀ 14:03, 25 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I was bold and took the step and did appropriate rewrites. I am completely aware that I goofed up the citations and put them before, instead of after, the punctuation.. but I'll come back to that another time. - ǀ Mikay ǀ 20:42, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comeback[edit]

S Club 7 is preparing a comeback: http://uk.news.launch.yahoo.com/dyna/article.html?a=/25092007/364/s-club-7-reunite.html&e=l_news_dm

Von „http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:S_Club_7“

1) This is not a forum 2) They're not preparing a comeback. Rachel's comments were taken out of context. That article doesn't even state they're preparing a comeback. - ǀ Mikay ǀ 14:38, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

GA nomination review[edit]

After a review of the article, I've spotted a number of issues:

  • First of all, the lead should summarise the article adequately. One sentence is not enough; try to summarise their history, musical style and so on.
  • In the interest of broadness, there should be a Musical style section (see Pixies, Wilco and other band FAs for a good example). Plenty has been written about S Club, so it shouldn't be too hard to write such a section.
  • How were the members recruited? This is a fairly important topic in any band article.
  • "however certain suggestions have been" doesn't make sense. I'd suggest rephrasing the sentence.
  • "Another theory is that the name was selected as the letter S is the 19th letter in the alphabet, representing 19 Entertainment." This needs a citation, otherwise it's essentially original research.
  • After this: "The show" doesn't follow, as the last time it was mentioned was several sentences ago.
  • Most of the first paragraph is about Miami 7, rather than the band itself. I suggested moving this to a separate article.
  • "2xPlatinum". Double platinum reads better; I think this is the case throughout the article.
  • Who is "Stargate?". It may be worth clarifying that to the reader.
  • In the LA 7/7 section, the first paragraph is huge, and, as a result, you may struggle to keep the reader's attention. I recommend splitting the paragraph.
  • In the Hollywood 7/Sunshine section, "However, it was their next single which really proved to their breakthrough in this respect" reads like original research to me. Who said this? Also, "which owed more than a little for its style" isn't written formally.
  • In general, there's too much information on single positions and TV shows (which are only tangentially related to the band in many respects), and not enough on the band itself. There's also too many short paragraphs that needs expansion or merging.
  • "We could decide to split after the tour if we wanted to." needs a direct citation.
  • What were the reasons behind splitting up? Surely a newspaper of the day would cover that?
  • The "S Club Juniors / S Club 8" doesn't really deserve another section; why not mention in the history section?
  • The Post-S Club section should be written as prose, rather than presented as a list. Take a look at other band articles for inspiration.
  • There's a {{fact}} tag in the Post-S Club section which should be addressed as soon as possible.
  • A citation is required for the sentence about Jo to meet WP:BLP, "where it was alleged that she along with fellow contestants Jade Goody and Danielle Lloyd had racially bullied another contestant, causing a huge controversy."
  • There's a huge number of fan sites in the External links section; virtually all of them should be removed, as they don't meet WP:EL.
  • Image:HannahPaul kiss.jpg really needs a more substanative fair use rationale. (You can use the template to help). Why is it irreplacable?

For the reasons above, I am putting this article on hold to allow you to address these issues. The hold will expire on 20 October, so if you feel you have addressed the comments above before then, let me know on my talk page. CloudNine 10:33, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. I'll get right onto those. :) - ǀ Mikay ǀ 09:16, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Calling it a very, very long day. Will address the last few during the week. - ǀ Mikay ǀ 19:56, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
(Sorry for the lateness of this rereview). I believe you've addressed all the issues I've raised; I'm impressed! Therefore I'm passing this as a good article. I'll add comments on how to improve this further later. CloudNine 14:25, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much. :) I look forward to your comments and going on to improve the article further. As you can probably tell, I'm extremely passionate about the subject. :) - ǀ Mikay ǀ 15:36, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Title[edit]

Good article. But why is it under the name S Club? They were known for almost all their career as S Club 7 (only 2 singles as S Club). If they were still together now as S Club fair enough, but they're not.--Tuzapicabit (talk) 17:50, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We've had this debate before. For most of its history, this page was titled S Club 7, but as S Club was the most recent name the band used, it should be titled as such. I'm not sure whether there are specific Wiki guidelines for this, but I think as the most recent name it should be kept. I completely understand your reasoning though; but by the same token.. should the S Club 8 article be renamed S Club Juniors just because they used S Club Juniors for longer? »—Mikay—talk—contribs→ 18:34, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Actually I would title the article S Club Juniors - it's what they're best known as. Anyone who comes looking for either artist would look for S Club 7 or S Club Juniors - but never mind, I assume there's redirects for both anyway.--Tuzapicabit (talk) 22:38, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What does 'S' stand for?[edit]

Super? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.242.149.24 (talk) 14:49, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'll quote from the article: "It is unknown where the name S Club 7 originated, however it has been suggested that the members simply liked that the letter 'S' had many words that began with it." Antivenin 04:07, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think its a cryptic pun on "700 Club". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.27.70.42 (talk) 05:57, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Holly Willoughby[edit]

I am trying to establish whether Holly started her TV career with S Club 7. All I can find are vague mentions of S club TV, which presumably is the overall name for the series of shows, but is never actually mentioned in the S Club article. Any help? Help with Holly Willoughby requested, too, as someone unnamed has asked for her to be deleted...! Thanks Jubilee♫clipman 05:55, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Almost, there was a series on TV called "S Club TV" which was basically just a kids-zine type show which several presenters presented (Holly Willoughby included). The show basically covered music, and typical kids type VTs. It wasn't really linked to S Club much other than in its name.. It's certainly notable, but I haven't included it in the main article because (as you've probably found) there aren't that many sources about it.. I have a small clipping about it somewhere which I can scan in for you. »—Mikay—talk—contribs→ 15:50, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I found a review of the show here and there's some information at HollyWilloughby.co.uk
  • I scanned that snippet in for you. click You'll be able to use it as a source, as I've sourced one of the earlier fanzine booklets for a couple of interview quotes. Just use the following reference:

<ref name=fanzine>{{cite press release | title=S Club 7 Fanzine 4 - fanclub press booklet | publisher=Polydor Ltd. | date=[[2000-09-02]] | accessdate=2008-12-24}}</ref>

»—Mikay—talk—contribs→ 15:54, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merge proposal[edit]

I'm not sure how much we should include about "S Club 3". I use their name in speech marks because technically, they are not called "S Club 3". Their official touring name is still S Club. Any information (and I think only a little bit should be if it can be correctly sourced) from the S Club 3 article should be merged into this main article. »—Mikay—talk—contribs→ 14:19, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone read the intro recently?[edit]

The bit about Aaron, no citations, quite offensive, considering removing.. Looked over previous edits, is by an anon, will change back to being about Bradley as it should.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Thepeganator (talk • contribs) 01:19, 26 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A pun on 700 club?[edit]

Was "S Club 7" supposed to be a pun on 700 club? I would think so.

Apparently there was a TV series spinoff called "S Club 7" on Fox Family (later ABC Family). Later on the 700 Club started to broadcast on that channel. Is this some kind of coincidence? ("S"even) [700 "Club"] "7". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.27.70.42 (talk) 05:51, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 28 May 2014[edit]

Tina Barrett has rejoined S Club, making the group S Club 4. PClarke123 (talk) 18:01, 28 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to any article. - Arjayay (talk) 18:10, 28 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Tina Barrett[edit]

The article says she only performed once in 2014 in Birmingham, although she has also performed at cazfest as an S Club member

http://www.cazfest.com/cazfest/cazfest_2014.html and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2gOCKnt5Qs

also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvHxmBScn3c wrexham central station — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.104.130.99 (talk) 16:17, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

82.27.242.159 (talk) 20:47, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move[edit]

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The result of the move request was: moved as requested, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 04:09, 30 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

S Club → S Club 7 – Not just because they're back as S Club 7 now, but to be perfectly honest, almost everyone remembers them as S Club 7 don't they? Unreal7 (talk) 22:21, 22 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support, the 7 is also an improvement in description. S Club has always existed in the context of S Club 7, as did the little known S Club 3. Gregkaye ✍♪ 10:19, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, whilst I disagree that "almost everyone remembering them as S Club 7" is a reason to rename the article as S Club was their previous official name at the time of split (I think we last had this discussion in 2007), I support the renaming now they have reformed and are officially S Club 7 again. »—Mikay—talk—contribs→ 01:49, 26 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Request concert page for Bring It All Back 2015 tour[edit]

Many people turn to the concert wiki pages to know basic information, such as set list and supporting acts so should 'Bring It All Back 2015' have one similar? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bernessa (talk • contribs) 23:20, 12 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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A new reunion( with tour)[edit]

S club have announced a reunion of the whole group. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-64634972?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA Beautiful Rosie (talk) 13:54, 14 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Change title to S Club[edit]

This should be changed 176.232.62.216 (talk) 19:45, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hannah Spearritt[edit]

While a the most reliable of sources, The Sun have announced the group will be releasing a brand-new single, as a tribute to Paul Cattermole, and it is without Spearritt, thus meaning she is not part of the group. The group's mentioning Spearritt will always be part of S Club is more in meaning of she'll always be a S Club member, by association, not by the literal, current sense. And before it's stated, "The Sun is unreliable," yes, I am aware, however, having an exclusive new photo does provide some modicum of creditability. livelikemusic (TALK!) 21:36, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The BBC source says "Jon Lee said she remained a member of the group." Per WP:STICKTOTHESOURCE I think we have to take this at face value and assume this means what it says: she is still a member of the group. It's also possible to be a member of a group while not taking part in every performance or every release. Popcornfud (talk) 00:21, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
We seem to have conflicting sources here. This says Spearritt left the band earlier this year. I've updated the article to say that sources conflict on whether Spearritt is a member. Popcornfud (talk) 18:38, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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