Talk:Revolutionary Socialist Party (Australia)

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This article was nominated for deletion on 23 September 2010 (UTC). The result of the discussion was no consensus.

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while i do not agree with the politics of the revolutionary socialist party, i believe the page is warranted as the group came from a major split from one of the main political tendencies on the far left in australia. i intend to expand on the contents of the page (unless someone wants to first) as my main interest is in editing wikipedia's articles on socialist/communist organisations, particularly in australia. one of the group's members is Van Thanh Rudd whom has generated a lot of media attention through his work in and out of the organisation. Marxwasright (talk) 06:19, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please do update the article but make sure you add more reliable, independent sources since at the moment the article fails the general notability guideline. (Rudd, I have to say, is also of dubious notability and I intend to nominate it for AfD in the next few days.) Frickeg (talk) 07:42, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

good for you Marxwasright (talk) 08:57, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I hope you didn't take that as aggressive. It was meant to be informative, and to also suggest that Rudd's notability is not reason to keep this article. Frickeg (talk) 08:59, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

fair enough. i'll see what i can do. Marxwasright (talk) 17:56, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I acknowledge that you've done excellent work here, but I'm still doubtful about actual notability. Of the many sources you've added, only two (the Age and the ABC) are independent and both deal with one event, namely Rudd's candidacy. In general very few unregistered parties have had sufficient claim to notability in Australia, and I can't see much reason why this one is different. Frickeg (talk) 00:48, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

creation of the page wasn't so much for the intent of an unregistered political party (that aspect was coincidental) but to expand on the "Communism in Australia" articles. there are several sources i would have thought classified as independent: The Age, ABC, Australian Story, Outlook and the Australian Electoral Commission. i am still to expand on this article. Marxwasright (talk) 03:56, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

All of those sources (the Age, ABC, Outlook and Australian Story) deal only with the single event of Rudd's candidacy. The AEC doesn't count as it doesn't actually mention the RSP. As it stands the article, in my opinion, still fails the general notability guideline. However, I won't PROD or AfD it until you've had more time to work on it. Frickeg (talk) 04:09, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merger with Socialist Alternative[edit]

The RSP was a tiny group (the page says 34 members), and there is very little independent sources that make it fit the criteria of WP:NOTE. The only independent sources are not about the organisation, but that Rudd's son was in it. I propose that some of the information describing the RSP, it's split, and merger with Socialist Alternative, be merged into the Socialist Alternative page and this page be changed to a redirect. Catiline52 (talk) 02:30, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]