The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that United States Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg(pictured) wrote an essay in 2000 on Bernie Sanders, his future competitor in the 2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries?
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... that United States Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg has some knowledge of eight languages? Sources: [1][2]
ALT1:... that United States Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg has performed with the South Bend Symphony Orchestra as a piano soloist? Sources: [3][4]
ALT3:... that United States Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg majored in history and literature as an undergraduate at Harvard University? Sources: [7]
ALT4:... that United States Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg wrote an essay in 2000 on his future competitor Bernie Sanders in the 2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries? Sources: [8][9]
Comment: I am currently very busy offline. I will review another DYK at my earliest convenience. However, I would appreciate any input on my nomination for my first DYK and GA promotion on a topic of personal interest, Pete Buttigieg. Moreover, I copied references directly from the Pete Buttigieg article. I apologize if this (or anything else in my template) was not the appropriate procedure. Thank you for your suggestions! HurricaneAndrew (444) 01:50, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Improved to Good Article status by AndrewPeterT (talk). Self-nominated at 01:50, 7 October 2021 (UTC).[reply]
– @AndrewPeterT – New enough (promoted GA on October 5, 2021) and long enough (38765 characters). Sources and neutrality all seem fine. The main hooks implies that Buttigieg is fluent in 8 languages (really exceptional), but the article says that he has "some knowledge" of those languages. None of the sources say that he is "fluent". I'd really avoid it to be on the main page, as it is unclear. Rest, the hooks are withing character limit; neutrality and WP:BLP appears all right. Every hook is interesting, but my preference is for ALT 4. I have un-linked almost everything except a few things, as rest appears to be overlinking. Let me know if you disagree. The hooks appear in the article, and are cited. The picture is very clear, and licenced properly. And QPQ is not required as you have less than 5 nominations, but feel free to do them. I leave the inclusion of "(pictured)" on the promoter, as we are currently in trial period. Almost good to go. Just some clarification needed. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 09:39, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Also, I'd replace 'rival' with 'competitor' in ALT 4. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 09:42, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Kavyansh.Singh: Thank you for your review of my DYK nomination and the clarification on the QPQ policy. I am glad to see that my hooks already meet most of the requirements. Regarding the main hook, I have rewritten the sentence to state that Secretary Buttigieg has knowledge of eight languages. This wording is more similar to the text in the actual article. Also, I have changed rival to competitor in my ALT 4 hook as suggested. I do not have any objections to you removing most of my article links. I had included them just in case readers did not know and/or wanted more information about those topics. Finally, I am fine with my ALT 4 hook being on the main page instead of my main hook. Please let me know if you have any more questions and/or comments. HurricaneAndrew (444) 20:21, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
– Fine, I'll approve ALT 1, 2, 3, and 4, with image. "Good to go", Great work! – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 10:14, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Can you tell me why Wikipedia allowed the creation of a special section for the train derailment when there are no other special sections for anything else that has occurred during his tenure as Secretary - the supply chain crisis, the Southwest airline issue and many others? It certainly seems politically motivated since it began with quotes by The Lever (a very biased political source that repeatedly tweeted an attack on Buttigieg for days using their own article - which was later debunked by mainstream media in several places). The section goes on to detail criticism by people like former President Trump, etc. There is certainly much new reporting by mainstream media such as CNN, Newsweek, and others that explains the derailment very comprehensively and explains clearly what the US DOT can and cannot do, the history of what happened during the Obama administration, the FAST ACT of 2015 that prevents US DOT from certain rule making on the railroads, and how real reform must happen in Congress. LibraryLadyJan (talk) 19:21, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, it seems WP:UNDUE to include so much about it compared to other sources. Bellowhead678 (talk) 09:32, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@LibraryLadyJan, on "why Wikipedia allowed", this an open wiki, most articles can be edited by anyone with an internet connection (though this particular article has a WP:GREYLOCK, making it a little harder). So the section was added because one or more editors thought it was a good idea. WP:BOLD is the law of the land. But there are other laws too, like WP:PROPORTION. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:57, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Looking for suggestions here... The article is missing references to Alfred E. Neuman, to whom Buttigieg has been notably compared. [1] Also, no news here about the latest House resolution. [2]Mr. Deplorable (talk) 18:25, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
A Trump insult and a MTG amendment that won't pass the Senate, which the House focused on rather than fund the government and prevent next week's looming shutdown, do not belong on this page. See WP:NOTNEWS and WP:FOXNEWSPOLITICS for that matter. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:59, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Why can't the aforementioned seats at all exits that are a danger to passengers. This could be the answer to wackos trying to create a dangerous condition while in flight.
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Please change the word "Anticipated" to "Anticipate" in the last sentence of the second to last paragraph of the "Secretary of Transportation" section. The sentence should read, "In March 2023, Buttigieg appeared on CNN, telling the cable news network that he had failed to anticipate the fallout from the derailment and erred in not visiting East Palestine sooner." Edmolo (talk) 18:15, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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– @AndrewPeterT – New enough (promoted GA on October 5, 2021) and long enough (38765 characters). Sources and neutrality all seem fine. The main hooks implies that Buttigieg is fluent in 8 languages (really exceptional), but the article says that he has "some knowledge" of those languages. None of the sources say that he is "fluent". I'd really avoid it to be on the main page, as it is unclear. Rest, the hooks are withing character limit; neutrality and WP:BLP appears all right. Every hook is interesting, but my preference is for ALT 4. I have un-linked almost everything except a few things, as rest appears to be overlinking. Let me know if you disagree. The hooks appear in the article, and are cited. The picture is very clear, and licenced properly. And QPQ is not required as you have less than 5 nominations, but feel free to do them. I leave the inclusion of "(pictured)" on the promoter, as we are currently in trial period. Almost good to go. Just some clarification needed. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 09:39, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
– Fine, I'll approve ALT 1, 2, 3, and 4, with image. "Good to go", Great work! – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 10:14, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
