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David Madden (Jeopardy! contestant)[edit]

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Redirect to List of Jeopardy! contestants#David Madden, or Delete. Case of WP:BLP1E that was previously deleted Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Madden (Jeopardy! contestant) (2nd nomination), but it was recreated. Referencing is very poor (there are no quality RS that cover the subject in any SIGOV outside of being in lists of famous winners). I tagged the article a year ago and suggested it should be redirected as IPs were constantly adding badly referenced WP:PROMO material about his other business interests, but when I WP:BOLDLY redirected it a few days ago, having not had any response to my notices, User:Robert McClenon felt it was better to send to AfD. Aszx5000 (talk) 09:49, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Only seeing now that it was also at AfD a third time (that AfD wasn't logged on the Talk Page) where it was kept Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Madden (Jeopardy! contestant) (3rd nomination). Having read the sourcing that was provided for the 3rd AfD, I think it was pretty weak, and a redirect, to his entry on List of Jeopardy! contestants#David Madden would be a better solution. Aszx5000 (talk) 09:56, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Todd Archibald[edit]

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Article recreated by WP:SPA following deletion a year and a half ago. I am bringing this to the community's attention. I am personally a weak delete: somewhat accomplished person, but I think it falls a little short of our notability criteria. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 09:18, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hotel Dili[edit]

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Fails WP:CORP. Insufficient independent significant coverage. Uhooep (talk) 09:00, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Notable historic hotel in East Timor.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:08, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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WBNM-LD[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG; another diginet coatrack. Could merge with sister station WBNA. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 06:29, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Chashni (TV series)[edit]

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Notability issue. It's not even runed for 6 months. Xegma(talk) 07:03, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep. A high profile tv series well sourced. Desertarun (talk) 08:30, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Panasonic Connect[edit]

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Deprod by @MSMST1543:. There are lots of press releases available, with announcements similar to what's already cited, but nothing in-depth about the company itself. I do not believe this article would be able to meet WP:NCORP. Alpha3031 (tc) 14:31, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Wallflower (band)[edit]

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Unreferenced article since 2011. Searching for refs is difficult as there is a more successful band called "The Wallflowers", but even after including band members names into the search it seems like they received no coverage. Nothing in the article writeup suggests Wikipedia notability. InDimensional (talk) 11:07, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I’m the original article author. Happy to have article deleted. Band came to an end in 1998 with little notable activity.

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Hotel Timor[edit]

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Fails WP:CORP. Insufficient independent significant coverage. Uhooep (talk) 08:47, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bintan Agro Beach Resort[edit]

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Fails WP:CORP. Insufficient independent significant coverage. Uhooep (talk) 08:32, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kyle Brazell[edit]

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, an Australian cricketer player, to meet WP:GNG. The closest to WP:SIGCOV that I found were 1 and 2, both from the same publication. JTtheOG (talk) 04:07, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Weak keep I'd say there's enough in those sources to keep the article for now, given the player has only debuted this season as there will likely be more coverage in the coming future. Wouldn't be against draftifying, but also a suitable redirect at List of South Australian representative cricketers also, so two suitable WP:ATDs. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 08:57, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I think 1 and 2 are something which cover independently about the subject, plus there are other refs in the article. These can be considered as enough, since the player debuted just in this season, more coverage is likely to come in future if he continues playing. In terms of SNGs, it meets WP:NCRIC as well. RoboCric Let's chat 05:05, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • The South Australian Cricket Association and Cricket Australia are not independent of the subject. The former directly administers the South Australia cricket team that he plays on, and is affiliated with the latter. Given his young age, I support draftification as an ATD, as well as the redirect suggested by Rugbyfan22. JTtheOG (talk) 05:17, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Although, they cover directly about the subject, the problem is that those are primary sources. Those contain useful information, so I linked those. However, apart from these two, I guess this is a secondary source which discusses about the topic, his education qualification and also his performance. I just wanted to say that since he debuted in this season, all these can be considered enough for a keep. Anyway, if the consensus reached by other editors is not to keep it, then I'll agree with a redirect. Thanks. RoboCric Let's chat 11:26, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Draftify, not enough independent secondary material to meet GNG but there may be in the near future.
    Redirect. JoelleJay (talk) 15:27, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Inclined to agree with Rugbyfan22 on this one. AA (talk) 22:12, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Either keep or redirect to the list of SA cricketers. Drafting this serves zero benefit really - it'll just end up getting deleted as no one will remember the draft is there. If there's not enough coverage for now then redirecting is the normal response in situations such as this - much easier to reverse a redirect and restore the page before adding the additional sources that are likely to appear if he continues to play. Blue Square Thing (talk) 08:14, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  •  Comment: To better summarize the sources in question, there are a couple sentences of coverage here, though it's mostly quotes, and four-ish sentences of coverage here. Both are from The Advertiser so they should be counted as one source. JTtheOG (talk) 04:24, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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WCKV-LD[edit]

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 06:01, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Talakayan Ng Bayan[edit]

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Article unreferenced since 2009 and tagged as such since 2010. No good hits on GSearch, GNews and GNews Archives. Found several false positive as Talakayan ng Bayan means "People's Dialogue" and is used by several entities aside from DWBL. --Lenticel (talk) 05:27, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete: I created the article almost 15 years ago without being aware about WP:GNG. I haven't touched the article since then. Safe to say, I barely found any source about the now-defunct radio show. ASTIG😎🙃 13:51, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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K21JQ-D[edit]

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 02:29, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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KAJS-LD[edit]

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 07:28, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

K32NM-D[edit]

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 07:17, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

KRLB-LD[edit]

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 02:28, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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François Mathieu[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG & WP:NARTIST. Gedaali (talk) 02:09, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Imre Vallyon[edit]

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As per the notability guidelines for authors, an author is notable if: The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors. The person is known for originating a significant new concept, theory or technique. The person has created, or played a major role in co-creating, a significant or well-known work, or collective body of work, that has been the subject of an independent book or feature-length film, or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews. The person's work (or works) either (a) has become a significant monument, (b) has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) has won significant critical attention, or (d) is represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums.

None of the preceding apply in this case and almost all the sources in the article are not independent. There are almost no reviews of his work and the awards he has won are not notable. The only significant coverage is of his legal issues. Ynsfial (talk) 15:58, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep, the Stuff article certainly establishes that he's notable, although the focus of it is on his child molestation convictions. The award from the Ashton Wylie Charitable Trust might be notable given that it's in conjunction with the New Zealand Society of Authors, which is definitely notable.-Gadfium (talk) 22:18, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't see how the Stuff article establishes his notability as an author. It's mostly about his convictions as you said. I'm struggling to find any reviews or analysis of his work. Even if the award is given in conjunction with the NZSA I don't think it's enough to confer notability. Do you think it is? It might also be worth noting that Vallyon himself is a member of the New Zealand Society of Authors, a membership he pays for.~~~ Ynsfial (talk) 12:49, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Gadfium is not arguing that he is notable as an author. Gadfium is talking about GNG. Schwede66 17:29, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I misunderstood, sorry. What other sources do we have for GNG then? We would need multiple. Will we be establishing his notability as a criminal if not as an author? or as a spiritual guru and leader? The only significant coverage in general seems to be that Stuff article, which focuses on his history of sexual assault. It's not unusual for a local newspaper to cover local criminals and crimes.
    The article consists of primarily sourced biographical information, a list of books with no analysis or reviews and a mention of a minor prize. If we were to remove the Scoop article, a local paper detailing his criminal convictions, what would his notability be based on GNG or otherwise? Ynsfial (talk) 22:15, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep: Source 6 is a book review in a RS, this in a Seattle newspaper discusses the author and his work [3], should be at basic notability. Discussed here [4] in a RS from New Zealand. Oaktree b (talk) 22:33, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I wouldn't consider Horror News Net a reliable source, see How to Get Your Book or Comic Reviewed on (HNN) Horrornews.net? and How to Expedite your Film Review? Their About us states:
    "HNN simply is a means for your film, product, book or studio to have existence on the internet. Whether bad or good, a product without existence in the search engines is simply without relevance. You work hard to create something, while we work hard to create a site that provides existence for your items."
    It's used as a reference on dozens if not hundreds of articles, so this should be brought up on the WP:RSN.
    The review in The Seattle Post-Intelligencer is a republished one from Blogcritics. Archived discussions on WP:RSN seem to indicate that it hasn't really been considered reliable the times it was brought up since it seems to accept content from any blogger. The website's About us states:
    "Blogcritics gives writers the opportunity to gain an exponentially higher level of visibility (and thus, traffic and search rank) than they could ever achieve through their home blog or website alone." Mooonswimmer 01:09, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Lacks WP:SIGCOV in multiple RS to meet WP:GNG. The two reviews mentioned above by Oaktree b (the only ones I could find) are published in unreliable sources and are likely paid pieces. I'd say the Stuff article counts towards WP:GNG, but it's all I could find. The two awards he's won are minor and of debatable notability. Mooonswimmer 03:18, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Women's roles during the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests and massacre[edit]

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Although the title of the article is "Women's roles during the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests and massacre", it actually only lists the deeds of four women during the Tiananmen Incident, without summarizing the role of women as a whole in the Tiananmen Incident, this article is more like talking about the experiences of these four women during the Tiananmen Incident. 日期20220626 (talk) 05:08, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep The article is on a viable-looking topic and is well referenced, and can be improved. Nick-D (talk) 10:15, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to 1989 Tiananmen Square protests and massacre. There are a couple of articles that talk about gender in the Tiananmen Square protests and massacre, the Feigon article cited in the artile and there is an article from Radio Free Asia on the forgotten legacy of women and the protests. I agree with the nominator about how the text does not match the title of the page, and I do not think there is sufficient information for a stand-alone page, especially as the women mentioned in the article all have a stand-alone page, so no information will be lost. --Enos733 (talk) 18:06, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Embassy of East Timor, London[edit]

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One sentence-stub that completely fails WP:GNG. Sole source is a government list of diplomatic missions in London. AusLondonder (talk) 13:49, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Installer VISE[edit]

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The article does not align with the English Wikipedia's criteria for both WP:SIGCOV and WP:NSOFT. The sources used in the article are mainly either primary sources or focus on the company rather than the software. An earlier attempt in 2011 to remove the article was made due to the lack of detailed and in-depth coverage from reliable sources. Currently, there is still a lack of widespread coverage in reliable sources for this article. Barseghian Lilia (talk) 18:02, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Shadow311 you relisted this saying that articles that have been proposed for deletion cannot be soft deleted, yet this exact soft deletion has already happened for two other articles for which the deletion has been proposed by the exact same user: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/EMCO MSI Package Builder and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zero Install, so how is it at the end of the day?!? Thanks! --Vlad|->
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  • Strong keep. It is easy to find independent WP:RS of very reasonable quality. For example, here is an article in an IEEE publication reviewing a different installer and using Vise as a reference point for comparisons: [5]. --Викидим (talk) 00:37, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2013 Rajya Sabha election in Tamil Nadu[edit]

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This was an indirect election, fails WP:Notability. I suggest it be either merged or redirected to the page, 2013 Rajya Sabha elections. — Hemant Dabral (📞) 01:40, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Astrid Chevallier[edit]

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Deleted at AfD many years ago, and nothing of substance seems to have changed: my WP:BEFORE search didn't find anything that would meet the GNG (just a handful of blogs, interviews, etc.), and none of the WP:NARTIST criteria appear to be met. Not notable. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 06:04, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. I couldn't find any good sources that show notability. The article itself has a lot of sources, but they are basically all low quality and/or primary. Cortador (talk) 07:40, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seeds of Hope Publishers[edit]

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The organization does not appear to pass WP:GNG The only references not published by the organization itself is a trivial mention in the NYT and a profile of the editor, Katie Cook, in bpfna.org, who was (at the time) an editor of bpfna.org as well. While there is a list of articles under the "Further Reading" section, one of the articles was written by a student newspaper, one from Baptists Today, and the others all seem to be limited to the Waco Tribune-Herald. They are mostly from the 1990s- and I have been able to find no significant coverage since.

This is the second deletion debate this article will go through- but editors should note that the only two "keep" votes came from new accounts that did not edit anything but their own user page and the deletion discussion. While that has no bearing on the organization's notability, new Wikipedia editors will want to read the policies on canvassing and recruiting people off-Wiki before they contribute. (Unless you want to provide more sources- please, if you have them, I would like them very much) GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 05:28, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2007 Montgomery mayoral election[edit]

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Only a single source, not enough to demonstrate notability. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 16:34, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete only one source and it's an excel file, only a city election, nothing to ATD here. SportingFlyer T·C 01:02, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I noticed that other mayoral elections in Montgomery have articles, thus I suggest all these articles should be Merged to a new election overview article, Mayoral elections in Montgomery, Alabama. Possibly something similar to Mayoral elections in Chattanooga, Tennessee or Mayoral elections in Evansville, Indiana? Samoht27 (talk) 19:56, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes for 2009 and 2011 (those should have been included here), but 2015 feels that it has decent coverage Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 13:08, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The Boss (Metal Gear)[edit]

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The current sources at reception were just listicles and rankings. I tried to find any sources about this character per WP:BEFORE, but I cannot find any sigcov. Relying mostly with this single journal here [6] wouldn't help notability. Greenish Pickle! (🔔) 22:39, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge per Conyo. This article isn't meeting notability as of right now. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 01:07, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to Characters of the Metal Gear series#Introduced in Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater as an WP:ATD. I found a GameRant article [7] but not sure if this would really count. I'm also not sure if GameRant is reliable or not. Conyo14 (talk) 03:12, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It is situational as a source, but Valnet sources does not help notability according to WP:VG/RS. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 03:15, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    So, half a source. But my !vote shall remain merge. Conyo14 (talk) 03:19, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per WP:ATD. There is some sourcing but it's questionable whether it reaches WP:SIGCOV. This can be covered at the main game article. Shooterwalker (talk) 01:37, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] She has also been discussed with sigcov in these lists: [13] [14] [15] [16] I have not looked into any book or scholar sources yet, nor have I checked Japanese sources. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 01:08, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Personally, I think the Kotaku and IGN looks good, thou other sources doesn't really help GNG, but can also he used to improve the article further. So, I feel like the article is barely notable for now but is still in weak state. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 01:15, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    After checking further, I felt like I'm satisfied a bit with the sources that were brought here now. But, I'll let afd stay here let others state their opinions here. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 01:16, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I've decided to create a source analysis of Cukie's sources, and it has changed my !vote:
Source analysis by Conyo14
Source assessment by User:Conyo14
The Memory Card .15: Snake pulls the trigger Plot WP:SUMMARY/brief routine mention of a plot. Red XN
[17] Brief analysis, but uncertain of reliability. Partial otherwise.
Breaking Down my Favorite Boss Fights of all Time WP:BLOG Red XN
Best Metal Gear Solid Boss of All Time Face-Off: The Winner Revealed Although it is a ranking, there is enough to meet WP:SIGCOV Green tickY
La legendaria soldado The Boss] Meristation is considered reliable and the article does not read like a blog. Green tickY
The 10 Greatest Final Bosses in Video Games Brief mention, not in-depth analysis.
The best boss fights involve getting picked on by someone your own size WP:BLOG Red XN
Seven Video Games Where You Beat Up Your Dad Brief, but maybe on the line between partial and full. I'll put it as good. Green tickY
The 25 most inspirational female characters in games WP:ROUTINE Red XN

Not that it matters to affecting your !vote, the Game Developer blog is one that was chosen as a featured blog by GD editorial staff, and the author is a published SME in gaming. As far as The Mary Sue goes, it is listed as a reliable source on WP:RSP. I also do not believe that the use of WP:ROUTINE is appropriate; none of the citations I listed are news sources, all of these sources were posted years after release, written (presumably) because the author wanted to write about it. The Destructoid source, for example, is written as part of a series of significant parts of video games for their staff, with the author saying things like "Shooting The Boss, while over in a blink of an eye, really is a pretty innovative and surprisingly memorable moment. While it could have easily been incorporated into the always impressive cutscenes, making one, small creative decision to have the player perform this final killing shot makes the scene infinitely more powerful" as well as discuss the relationship between the player, Snake, and The Boss, their musing over whether the player is required to kill her or just let her die, and speculation on what Kojima was intending to depict by making the player execute her. I would strongly dispute the notion that ROUTINE applies in any capacity here. WP:SUMMARY also applies to an extent, but not to the entirety. The source is being utilized not for the description of the plot of The Boss, but for the author's feelings on her and her death. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 07:14, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Could you provide the thread for The Mary Sue? Conyo14 (talk) 17:48, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussions should be linked on the perennial sources page in The Mary Sue's entry - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 19:40, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Found it [18]. I will update the source analysis. Conyo14 (talk) 20:10, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2023 Little Rock tornado[edit]

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Article was not at all ready for mainspace and it currently fails WP:LASTING. Practically the entire article is a direct copy and paste from the meteorological synopsis and damage summary for this tornado in Tornado outbreak of March 31 – April 1, 2023. This article was created by me, in draftspace, doing a direct copy/paste of the damage summary so I could locate LASTING impacts (14,000 bytes). In this edit an anonymous user copy/pasted the entire meteorological synopsis section from the outbreak article (11,000 bytes). To note, the article is only 26,000 bytes. The entire article is a CONTENTFORK copy/paste, which was not ready for mainspace at all and was being edited by SOCKS. Either delete or draftify back like it was, but it clearly should not be an article right now. As a second note, the draft was submitted to AFC by a user who had not edited the article at all. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 13:10, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Move back to draft Why didn't you just move back to draft? This was unnecessary. ChessEric 06:16, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ChessEric: If it was moved rather than deleted, I would want it as a userspace draft not actual draftspace. The issue here is in the draftspace, SOCKS (both Andrew5 & Lokicat) find it and try to "improve it", plus even if it wasn't pure anonymous SOCKS involved, there is copyright issues involved (due to the copy/pasting mess) and people were able to get it through AfC from draft-space into mainspace without me, the original draft creator, even being aware. With all that, this is more of a TNT method (i.e. delete it and then redo it in userspace). Heck, the whole thing as it is right now is a copy/paste from the outbreak article so in 5 seconds, I could redo it in userspace. So yeah, don't think of this AfD as a true "delete it due to lack of notability", but more of a TNT request that is also using notability and the dang copyright and copy/paste issues as the backing for that TNT request. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 06:23, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's why you should have just put it in draft and rewritten or paraphrased some of it. Plus, the event details are fine and the section on the main page can be shortened. Plus, believe it or not, the SOCKS have actually made some helpful edits. The AfD was not the way to go. Plus, this tornado inflicted significant damage along its path in a major metropolitan area, so I think it will easily meet WP:Lasting. I'm not saying an article is guaranteed though. ChessEric 13:21, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don’t doubt that and again, I’m not saying this won’t get an article. For reference this entire edit is a copyright violation. Making it a draft again will not get rid of that. The SOCk reverted edit is also a copyright violation, as both are just a copy/paste of another Wikipedia article without any reference that content came from another article. That could be easily solved with an inter-wiki link, but it just makes the edit history weird and talk page weird. Legit, the history itself needs to be TNTed and then as this is at this point a near 100% direct copy/paste, I could create User:WeatherWriter/2023 Little Rock tornado with a copy/paste of the damage summary and basically restart the whole thing before the SOCKs came along. Did they help? Sure. Did they save maybe 5 minutes of work only though? Yes. It is better to literally TNT this, get rid of the copyright violation and just restart. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 14:00, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Doing a courtesy ping for ChessEric. Just for reference look at User:WeatherWriter/2023 Little Rock tornado. The new draft, made in minutes, is already 3,000 bytes larger than this article and doesn’t involve the SOCKs in the edit history nor the two very large copyright violations. The TNT is basically to clean-up the SOCKs and copyright violations from the edit history, since chances are high, the draft was pushed into mainspace by one of the two SOCKs well before any clean-up edits could occur. So yeah, don’t think of this AfD as anything with notability. This is truly a WP:TNT to remove the SOCKs from play. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 14:18, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Seekda[edit]

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No independent reliable sources about this niche software company in the article, and I am seeing nothing in a search that is not promotional. BD2412 T 00:16, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Barlaston Parish Council[edit]

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Lowest-level local government authority in England - there are more than 10,000 parish councils and they are rarely notable. Fails WP:ORGCRIT and WP:GNG. No secondary sources. AusLondonder (talk) 01:51, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Representative of Anguilla, London[edit]

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Contested PROD. No sources at all other than a listing of diplomatic missions in London. Fails WP:GNG. AusLondonder (talk) 01:46, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete No third party coverage to meet GNG. Article merely confirms it exists. LibStar (talk) 03:08, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to List of diplomatic missions in London#British Overseas Territories. That already contains the address so there is nothing to merge, but given the list does exist there is no benefit in deletion over redirection. Thryduulf (talk) 12:27, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't believe a redirect is necessary here, this is not a very plausible search term. AusLondonder (talk) 13:06, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I firmly disagree, we have content about this topic so it benefits us to make that content easy to find. If the topic was notable enough for an article it would be at this title, so this is a search term people will likely use to find it, and the presence of the redirect will discourage recreation of an article. Thryduulf (talk) 13:50, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Victoria Park Harriers and Tower Hamlets Athletics Club[edit]

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Unable to locate significant coverage in reliable secondary sources. Fails WP:ORGCRIT and WP:GNG. AusLondonder (talk) 00:10, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. We don't have remotely enough coverage here to meet NCORP. JoelleJay (talk) 01:21, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Khadija Mbowe[edit]

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WP:BLP of a YouTuber, not properly referenced as passing inclusion criteria for YouTubers. As usual, YouTubers are not "inherently" notable enough for Wikipedia articles just because they exist, and have to be shown to pass WP:GNG on third-party reliable source coverage about them and their work -- but three of the seven footnotes here are the subject's own self-published content about themself on YouTube or their own website, and one more is a "staff" profile on the self-published website of an organization they've been directly affiliated with, all of which are primary sources that are not support for notability at all.
Meanwhile, the other three footnotes are a Q&A interview in which they're talking about themself in the first person (which would be acceptable as verification of additional facts after GNG had already been covered off by stronger sourcing, but is not itself contributing to passage of GNG as it still represents the subject talking about themself); one brief glancing namecheck of their existence as a provider of soundbite in an article about something other than themself, which isn't support for notability; and just one source that's actually represents third-party analysis about Khadija Mbowe in any meaningful sense, but is too short to singlehandedly clinch passage of GNG all by itself if it's the only strong source in the mix.
Obviously this is without prejudice against recreation in the future if and when an article can be sourced better than this, but nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt the sourcing from having to be better than this. Bearcat (talk) 03:10, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Standard telegraph level[edit]

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Another WP:DICTDEF. I couldn't even find any usage of this phrase outside dictionary definitions. Not sure if there is a reasonable redirect target; maybe it could be moved to Wiktionary. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 02:55, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Northern Traders Company[edit]

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Article about a company, not properly sourced as passing WP:NCORP. As always, companies are not "inherently" entitled to Wikipedia articles just because they existed, and have to be shown to pass WP:GNG and WP:CORPDEPTH -- but the only source cited here is a single book in which this company gets mentioned but is not the principal subject, which is not enough all by itself, and the article has existed in this state since 2013, and been tagged as single-sourced since 2018, without ever having a second source added. And on a WP:BEFORE search, I found a few brief glancing namechecks of its existence in The Globe, but nothing substantive or detailed enough to make up the difference: mostly what I found was coverage about sick or dead people who had been employees of the company, not coverage about the company. Bearcat (talk) 02:51, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Per the included source, the company seems to have been more commonly called Northern Trading Company. I got some more hits, especially newspaper hits, under this name. Ravendrop 05:06, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sylvan Grove, Indiana[edit]

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This was back-entered onto the maps from GNIS, which cites an 1876 atlas of the state. Baird's History of Clark County, Indiana on p. 100 has a very brief reference to it as a post office, and I found nothing else of relevance other than that there was a school there at some point. I just don't see that there was ever a settlement here. Mangoe (talk) 02:20, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Our Lady of Lourdes Hospital (Daet)[edit]

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Reliant entirely on primary sources. No evidence of notability * Pppery * it has begun... 01:55, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete no good hits on GSearch, GNews and GBooks. GNews Archives gave an article about the family of doctors who founded the hospital from a small clinic. However, I'm not sure that that is enough to warrant notability. --Lenticel (talk) 09:34, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Glen[edit]

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The only reference for this stub biography of a footballer is a database entry, so this stub no longer satisfies sports notability and does not satisfy general notability. Draftification will provide six months to find significant coverage.

  • Comment: while I am aware of the changed notability criteria, seems a bit odd to go straight to AfD for a subject like this where the article already existed for some years under the old rules, would it not be more appropriate to tag for verification first, then move up from that if not acted on? It seems very likely this player will appear in the British Newspaper Archive and there are far more 'deserving' nominations from this era than an international player and cup winner? I have added refs that indicate his prominence, but appreciate they would not satisfy SIGCOV. Crowsus (talk) 02:21, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]


  • Keep. Absurd nomination. This player represented his country and won national competitions. If that doesn't satisfy notability then this place is a complete waste of time. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 04:20, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep - clearly notable. 200 professional appearances in England and Scotland, a Scotland international, there is coverage out there including in Paul Smith's book about Scotland players - silly nomination. Good work by Crowsus and JM on expanding. GiantSnowman 09:35, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reproduction speed[edit]

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Per WP:NOTDICT. Since this term seems to be used in several different contexts, it can redirect to Reproduction (disambiguation). Helpful Raccoon (talk) 00:56, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AFL Tables[edit]

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Fails GNG and WP:WEBCRIT. A search for "AFL Tables" will show up thousands of webpages which reference statistics from this online database, but no references which actually give significant coverage about the database as a subject, which is the benchmark which must be met under WEBCRIT. Google searching "paul jeffs afl tables" is a better search term to look for SIGCOV about the database (since any genuine SIGCOV would include Jeffs' name as the site's creator), and the best that shows up a few appreciative one-liner posts in public forums and on other stats databases - nothing which meets GNG's requirements of significance and independence. I don't see any valid alternative to deletion; there's no merge or redirect target that makes sense, and issue of lack of references can't reasonably be solved by draftifying. Aspirex (talk) 00:47, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

News Bites[edit]

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Unreferenced since its inception in 2010. No notable hits in GBooks, GNews Archives, and GNews. Be prepared for a lot of false positives in your search due to how common "News Bites" is as a phrase. Weak Redirect to List of programs broadcast by Studio 23 as plausible target per WP:ATD. Weak as there are a lot of similarly named programs/media entities found during my Google Search. --Lenticel (talk) 00:20, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete unreferenced and also not notable enough to be on wikipedia 48JCLTalk 00:45, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

News 23[edit]

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Tagged as unreferenced since 2012. No notable hits in GBooks, GNews Archives, and GNews. Be prepared for a lot of false positives in your search due to how common "News 23" is as a phrase. Redirect to List of programs broadcast by Studio 23 as plausible target per WP:ATD. --Lenticel (talk) 00:15, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ultraman Tregear[edit]

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Most of it were just primary sources. Fails WP:GNG. AfD'ing it to end the edit war. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 22:46, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reject: you have no reason to delete this article!! Harimua Thailand (talk) 02:45, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why not? 2605:B40:13E7:F600:1566:1FAC:A05C:22B9 (talk) 17:10, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Harimua Thailand: We need coverage in reliable sources independent of the subject (in this case, Ultraman) to have an article. This article has none of that, and should therefore be deleted. Characters as popular as King Dedede have been redirected for this reason. QuicoleJR (talk) 21:37, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Except King Dedede is a different topic entirely and have some decent sources unlike this one (Full of primary sources).The Worst part is, there are other 3 Ultraman articles that are all sourced as primary. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 00:57, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I know that, I was using him as an example of how notability is not popularity or being a well-liked character. The fact that he is in a better position than this character helps my point. QuicoleJR (talk) 01:26, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete There is literally no reception in reliable sources either in this article or on the web, so it does not meet GNG. If there is a good redirect target available, redirect it there. QuicoleJR (talk) 21:33, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Reject: Redirect is not allowed and the article must be keep!! Harimua Thailand (talk) 04:20, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Why? 2605:B40:13E7:F600:6938:8399:70DC:2892 (talk) 14:38, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You made the article, you have serious bias 48JCLTalk 00:42, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Are people allowed to vote twice? Cooper (talk) 01:52, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: I was about to say redirect but if you search by the Japanese name, ウルトラマントレギア, a lot more sourcing comes up. Cooper (talk) 01:54, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    See WP:THEREMUSTBESOURCES. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 01:56, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Entry on Japanese Wikipedia. Cooper (talk) 01:58, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Its a primary source. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 01:59, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Two quick searches brought me these two. Cooper (talk) 02:04, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Unreliable. See WP:RS, if there's a reliable source then it helps GNG. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 02:05, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    How do you know it's unreliable? Just because you aren't familiar with a website doesn't make it unreliable. I'm not familiar with those website either, but both of those websites are used dozens to hundreds of times on Wikipedia. And they look fine to me. Cooper (talk) 02:07, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    If they are not unreliable, but a situational source. Then it couldn't even help WP:GNG. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 02:10, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    WP:GNG says that reliable "sources may encompass published works in all forms and media, and in any language." Let's not discriminate Japanese media. Cooper (talk) 02:11, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It's not even proven as a reliable source. But, lets drop this and move on since we have different perspective. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 02:13, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That sounds like you're just trying to deny that any source is valid, for whatever reason occurs to you at the moment. I don't think there is such a thing as a "situational source". Toughpigs (talk) 02:12, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Because its just a reveal source. For the character it says only about this "Among the many Ultraman, Ultraman Taro is the one for whom I feel a powerful, powerful affinity" thats it. But, I don't see any point of making this discussion much longer. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 02:17, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Uh, what is a "reveal source"? Cooper (talk) 02:18, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Oops. I meant that the source is a Character reveal only. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 02:19, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Ebb and Flow[edit]

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Unreferenced article. I couldn't find any significant coverage on the web; it's tough to search for them as their name is shared with a few other groups, but by including band members I found only a very brief Q&A on sfgate.com and an album review on aural-innovations.com, neither of these seem like WP:SIGCOV and nothing in the article suggests notability per WP:BAND InDimensional (talk) 22:12, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The Pentecostal Mission[edit]

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Fails WP:NORG - I could not find significant coverage of this church in reliable sources independent of the subject. HenryMP02 (talk) 19:09, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Lion mask[edit]

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Long-time unreferenced article. I am not sure if there is an overall concept/topic of 'lion mask' or sources to show its notability. Boleyn (talk) 16:15, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This does seem to be a recognized motif in art. That was just from the first few hits for "lion mask" + "motif" on Google books, there are quite a few more. I wouldn't oppose it being merged into something but there does seem to be discussion and analysis of lion mask motifs. Admittedly there isn't a lot of useful content here, but something can be said about the topic. PARAKANYAA (talk) 19:40, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, this is a nice base article to work from. A stub, but an encyclopedic stub. Randy Kryn (talk) 04:22, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: if we're going to keep it, could we at least find some sources to cite? This article has gone entirely unreferenced since its creation almost twenty years ago. Any decent sources would at least demonstrate that it's a distinct topic worthy of inclusion somewhere in Wikipedia. This AfD would seem to provide a good opportunity to locate some. P Aculeius (talk) 11:48, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment I have no issue with the suggestion to merge. PARAKANYAA (talk) 02:14, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. The lion mask seems to be a notable concept in art/history as per sources cited above. Cortador (talk) 07:41, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Files[edit]

File:Deftones - My Own Summer (Shove It) Disc 2.jpg[edit]

File:Deftones - My Own Summer (Shove It) Disc 2.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Seegoon (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Using two cover art not compliant with WP:NFCC#3a. Preferring other cover art... George Ho (talk) 08:11, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, accidentally used FFD rather than PROD. --George Ho (talk) 08:12, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Categories[edit]

NEW NOMINATIONS[edit]

Judaism by year[edit]

Nominator's rationale: A previou discussion Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_March_23#Category:Post–World_War_II_synagogue_architecture brought to light that there was a coding error in {{Synagogues completed in year category header}}. After fixing, synagogue categories by year only populate "Judaism in 19XX" from 1800. Likewise, {{Synagogues completed in decade category header}} now only populates the decade categories in Judaism by decade from 1700. I suggest making similar changes to {{Jewish organization establishment category}} and {{Jewish organization establishment category by decade}} with the same cut-off dates. MORE TO BE ADDED… – Fayenatic London 10:43, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Shipwrecks of North Asia[edit]

Nominator's rationale: merge, currently only one article in the category, which is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:24, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

British people by descent[edit]

Nominator's rationale: rename for consistency, the subcategories are "by descent". Marcocapelle (talk) 06:49, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Cornish people by descent[edit]

Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:42, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Fictional animals by taxon[edit]

Nominator's rationale: No reason has been given why this unnecessarily WP:NARROWCAT has been created. It only contains two taxons which is not enough to justify an entire separate category. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 04:50, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Category:Fictional animals by taxon, but merge Category:Fictional invertebrates and Category:Fictional vertebrates into Category:Fictional animals by taxon. AHI-3000 (talk) 05:08, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ultimately doing that is just shuffling around deck chairs and makes no real difference. But I think the more longstanding categories (since 2006) should take precedence over your new 2024 category, not things be merged just because you want your category to be prominent. You have just stated an opinion but not provided a reason to back why taxon is better than the vertebrate/invertebrate split. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 09:45, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Both the nominated and the alt proposal could be an improvement, but I prefer the alternative, in order to keep taxa together as a recognizable attrribute. I have tagged the two subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:43, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:American politicians who are the most recent member of their party to hold statewide office[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Wikipedia:Overcategorization. This is not a defining characteristic for any of these individuals, it's trivial, and narrow. Its also temporary. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:40, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Let’s consider what Wikipedia:Overcategorization defines as non-trivial characteristics: “For biographical articles, it is usual to categorize by such aspects as their career, origins, and major accomplishments. In contrast, someone's tastes in food, their favorite holiday destination, or the number of tattoos they have would be considered trivia.” It is indisputably a major accomplishment and notable career event to have been the very last member of a political party to win a statewide election. These people were alone and remain alone as members of their parties with statewide power, reflecting ideological transitions and resource disparities. That is why this trait is noted in the introduction of almost every biography under the category. It does not remotely compare with arbitrary preferences or traits, and you have failed to elaborate about why it should. You have essentially conceded that there is no formal rule whatsoever against categories which are so-called “temporary.” Of course elections and generational turnover mean that pages will eventually be swapped out. In many cases in this category, this will likely take years to decades - underscoring how the category is illustrative of partisan leans and relevant to understanding both the unique "maverick" identities of some politicians as well as the electoral geography of the United States. Wikipedia is updated to reflect current events. This category, along with many other categories and biographies, is no different. Finally, it is hardly narrow to cover 23 politicians from 23 22 different states and multiple decades. 1Matt20 (talk) 02:11, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Guido Gezelle[edit]

Nominator's rationale: This epon category has the poet and the one of their colleagues. That's not helpful for navigation, considering that they already link to each other. Mason (talk) 00:03, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirects[edit]

Template:Independent MPs[edit]

Template:Independent MPs in Canada used to be at this pagename until I moved it to clarify its scope and avoid potential confusion with other navboxes, e.g. Template:Independent MPs in the United Kingdom. Now that the Canadian navbox is transcluded directly through its new name, I suggest that the old name be deleted to avoid any future mix-ups, e.g. being added to a British MP's biography by mistake. — RAVENPVFF · talk · 20:26, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Disambiguate make a template-space dab page (yes, those exist). It would show an error message when transcluded. -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 05:17, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • I agree with the IP editor who says to disambiguate (although the resulting disambiguation page could potentially get very long, couldn't it?) Bwrs (talk) 04:48, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Not really, the only other relevant template is the UK one linked above. In most other countries with members of parliament, laws forbid anyone running or sitting in parliament without affiliation with a registered party, or independents sit so rarely that a template is moot. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 00:19, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Good point! I didn't notice the word “independent”; probably all the independent members of US Congress and independent sitting state legislators in the United States put together would fit in a single infobox, as they are so rare. All the more reason to disambiguate. Bwrs (talk) 16:32, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, US legislators are not "members of parliament". Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 11:47, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - as noted above there are only two Independent MPs templates, Canada and United Kingdom. The redirect already has zero transclusions, deleting it is cleaner than a template dab - they exist but they're clunky. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 11:54, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete No need for a disambiguation - nobody will expect either country-specific template to be at this title. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:23, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kafka-trapping[edit]

List of fallacies#Kafkatrapping no longer exists because "Kafkatrapping" isn't a recognised fallacy described in the literature about logic. The list violated WP:LISTGLOSSARY because "Kakfatrapping" does not have a Wikipedia article (and does not qualify for one), just a Wiktionary entry. There has been a prior deletion discussion for Kafka-trap which ended with User:Guarapiranga undoing my removal of List of fallacies#Kafkatrapping and starting a Talk page discussion, which involved getting a third perspective. Since that third perspective was emphatically in favour of removing the entry, I've removed it again. MartinPoulter (talk) 08:40, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nutrient Recovery and Reuse[edit]

No mention of "Nutrient" at the target page. Was created as a redirect without mention at the target. Afterward, the creator proceeded to link this term in the See Also sections of high profile pages that had very stringent connections to the "Recovery and Reuse of Nutrients". Seems to be an effort to establish notoriety to this term, which appears nowhere on Wikipedia in an academic context, sans the randomly piped See Also mentions. Utopes (talk / cont) 01:16, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nonstop Sampler[edit]

No mention of Nonstop Sampler at the target discography, does not seem to be a likely search term without any content pertinent to it. Utopes (talk / cont) 00:59, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Open Floor[edit]

No information about "Open Floor" at the target, which is noted in the edit history as being an "entirely different school than 5Rhythms". Was blanked for a moment in 2021, but was restored as a redirect due to no content being added. In any case, this title is ambiguous with Open floor plan which is a redirect to the article of Open plan, who's content is directly pertinent to open floors. Utopes (talk / cont) 01:34, 19 April 2024 (UTC) Open Floor is a style of modern dance, as is 5Rhythms. The two are not the same so the redirect (from a dance point of view) should go to Modern dance, with a brief mention of the approach to be added there. Chiswick Chap (talk) 06:55, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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OperaMail.com[edit]

Neither Opera mail nor "OperaMail" are mentioned at the target, much less its supposed .com domain. This domain currently exists on the web as a redirect to opera dot com, and as for Wikipedia, without a mention of operamail this does not seem to be the most helpful currently. (Even if it's a mail site that was acquired by Opera from 2010 to 2013. Notably, this redirect was created in 2011 when the "opera" description was accurate, but Fastmail became independent again very shortly after and has been so for the last decade.) Utopes (talk / cont) 01:38, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hekt[edit]

Not mentioned at the target. External searches don't pull up anything related to this scale, although it appears to be an alternative name for Heqet, says Google. However, it does not appear at Heqet (our page on Wikipedia uses "Heket", but Google's definitely uses "Hekt"). In any case, "Hekt" is short enough to have a surplus of other mentions on Wikipedia as a word, appearing across the board in terms of viability as a redirect. Also sometimes short for "Hektor" and several others. Utopes (talk / cont) 07:58, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep: Per this source, Heinz Bohlen, one of the namesakes of the Bohlen–Pierce scale, described the hekt in this paper (cited in the original German as source 2 in the article) as an alternative measurement to a cent, such that 100 hekts divide each step in the Bohlen–Pierce scale. I found a couple of other sources using the hekt measurement searching Google scholar: [19] and [20]. voorts (talk/contributions) 02:11, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I would also be open to disambiguation to Hektor and Bohlen–Pierce scale, as well as Heqet if sources can be found establishing that Hekt is an alternative transliteration. It also appears that there is a HEKT cell line that might be related to HEK 293 cells. If it just ends up being Hektor and BP scale, then I would support keeping with a hatnote to Hektor. voorts (talk/contributions) 14:15, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom as ambiguous. Mention may be added to the target using voorts' sources however. Jay 💬 11:47, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Qwik Crisp[edit]

Not mentioned at target. 1234qwer1234qwer4 20:54, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Na Sé Contaethe[edit]

Not a plausible search term. Also not mentioned in target (I tried ctrl+f/F3) JuniperChill (talk) 21:58, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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El Loco (Los de Abajo song)[edit]

Not mentioned at target. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:07, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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El Loco (wrestler)[edit]

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Various MAR characters (2)[edit]

Discussed at target ones or twice in passing but without enough substance to warrant a redirect. Most of these have prior article history but Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of MÄR characters establishes sufficient agreement from AfD that there's no need to restore. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:47, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Various MAR characters[edit]

Not mentioned at target at all. Most of these have prior article history but Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of MÄR characters establishes sufficient agreement from AfD that there's no need to restore. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:47, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nanashi (MÄR)[edit]

Separating this out from the below because there is an episode of the manga titled just "Nanashi" so this could justifiably be thought of as a redirect for that. But really people typing this are likely to be looking for the character, on whom there's not enough substance to warrant a redirect. Has prior history but Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of MÄR characters establishes sufficient agreement from AfD that there's no need to restore. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:47, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of minor characters in MÄR[edit]

The target contains no such list. Both of these have prior article history but Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of MÄR characters establishes sufficient agreement from AfD that there's no need to restore. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:47, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Given that nobody has imported any information in the spirit of WP:PRESERVE, perhaps that can be done by somebody if they can provide an attribute to it while also suggesting it to the other MÄR articles as I had suggested in the AFD that was mentioned. Any objections? Rtkat3 (talk) 02:27, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Penny station[edit]

Unlikely a flag stop is the primary topic for this generic term. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:41, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. Not only is this the primary topic according to my research, it's the the only notable topic with this exact name - the only other thing that might be notable (but I'm not convinced it actually is) is called Copper Penny Station and there is no content about that on en.wp anyway. Additionally, this redirect is the result of a BLAR so it should be taken to AfD if you want it deleted, but as previous AfDs for Canadian flag stops resulted in a consensus to redirect we'd likely be back here anyway. Thryduulf (talk) 09:46, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Rape of Nancheng[edit]

Delete: neither rape nor Nancheng are mentioned in the article, the term has virtually no views and I only found it when trying to find other articles known as 'Rape of X'. I did contact the creator of the redirect but he didn't respond Traumnovelle (talk) 03:16, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jonny cochrane[edit]

honestly, i feel like it could refer to both Johnnie Cochran or Johnny Cochrane. Probably even more to the latter since the redirect uses the exact last name. Okmrman (talk) 00:55, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguate with links to both. Traumnovelle (talk) 03:18, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

SuperCops Vs Super Villains[edit]

Misspelled alt titles. Someonewhoisusinginternet (talk) 06:25, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Templates and Modules[edit]

Miscellany[edit]

Draft:Barbara Engler[edit]

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An open letter to rep Kevin Hern doesn't belong here. Coop (talk) 09:01, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Aashutosh gourav[edit]

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GPT-generated entry that does not belong on Wikipedia. Coop (talk) 04:02, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Katie chapplow[edit]

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Her life experience can be interesting, but the content of this is not suitable for Wikipedia at all. Coop (talk) 03:51, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Bait Comedy[edit]

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Not a real topic, as the author mentions. Coop (talk) 03:01, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Cecelia Joyce Otis[edit]

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Would work well in a blog. Coop (talk) 02:58, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Alexi Dear[edit]

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A personal diary-like entry about WritingDearly written by WritingDearly. Coop (talk) 02:52, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Fox by Margaret Wild and Ron Brooks[edit]

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"This is a literary essay." - according to the creator. Coop (talk) 02:49, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Cheese[edit]

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Why do we need a GPT-generated draft of Cheese? Cooper (talk) 02:31, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:The Longest Word In English In One Page[edit]

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I don't know if this is true or not, but this does not belong on Wikipedia. Cooper (talk) 02:26, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Ryan Daou (The Kingpin Of Addis Ababa)[edit]

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Part of User:Khaled Tarabey/sandbox, GPT-generated fiction. Cooper (talk) 02:23, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:Khaled Tarabey/sandbox[edit]

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GPT-generated story. Cooper (talk) 02:23, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:ColourBlocks (BBC Kids Show)[edit]

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This should be removed as Draft:Colourblocks already exists, and the current topic lacks notability. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 48JcL48 (talkcontribs) 00:39, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Sean Grieve Sr[edit]

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Fictional short story? Cooper (talk) 01:41, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Draft:Shaheedallll (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

I think someone wrote a short story here... Cooper (talk) 01:40, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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