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Recently closed ANI

And this is the point where I ask please, if this is going to continue, then not here. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 10:14, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

I discovered this morning that this ANI had been unexpectedly closed. Reading through it again, I see that at no time did you identify yourself as an admin - as far as I knew you were just another contributor to the discussion - and at no time did you state that you planned to close the discussion imminently, nor did you make clear that you were waiting for for me to respond. Of course I didn't respond - how would I know I needed to? Colonies Chris (talk) 09:59, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

I did in fact state that I was an admin; perhaps I should have been clearer than in an edit summary ("Admin hat on"), but I assumed that was something along the lines of WP:BLUE (and I don't belive that I have ever seen someone "identify themselves as an admin" in a discussion in the manner suggested). Furthermore, a notice of intent to close is not necessary; and you know you need to respond by people posting in the thread. I'm sorry it didn't end in the way that you might have desired, but there was a very clear community consensus. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 10:05, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

This is outrageous. So you think the fact that you are an admin is as obvious as the fact that the sky is blue? Sorry, but I haven't memorised the list of admins - or are you just so important that I ought to know who you are without being told? Why would I be looking at the edit summary on a comment of yours? I just read the actual comment. And I have replied to several comments on that thread, and would have responded to you if your intention had been made clear - at no time did you make clear what you were proposing, nor on what timescale. Don't hide behind 'legal' quibbling - "a notice of intent to close is not necessary". Well maybe there's nothing in the rules to say that, but it's commmon decency and fairness to make clear your role, your conclusions and intentions, and allow time for a response. Colonies Chris (talk) 16:54, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

No, I'm not that important, and I don't think that; I assumed that in a series of postings on the Admin's noticeboard you would likely have noticed that I had been acting in an admin capacity elsewhere, I was mistaken, and I apologise for that. However, I assumed that you would be monitoring an AN/I thread about yourself, and waited 48 hours to give a chance to respond, when I could have immedately closed it at the time of my initial posting - there was no obligation, with a clear consensus, to allow it to continue at that point. When closing an ANI discussion there is no requirement to "allow time for a response" - I did so as a courtesy, again assuming that you were actively monitoring an ANI thread about your behavior. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:06, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room.

The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

Chris, this is far from the first time your use of AWB has been called into question. We all appreciate your gnome edits, but once you step into changing links and being called out for those changes being "controversial", you need to (a) stop and (b) respond at the ANI thread before continuing. You can still use the semi-automated tool to make minor changes, gnome edits etc, but just not those which have cause such disharmony. That's a good thing. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:10, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

To be fair to Chris, he did, however before the thread was closed he seems to have stopped monitoring it, hence this kerfuffle. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:14, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for this - however, being fair to me is something The Rambling Man isn't capable of. His repeated unpleasant fault finding and general sniping is why I felt it necessary to ban him from my talk page. Even in this dispute he was badmouthing me behind my back. Everything he has brought to this discussion should be examined in the light of his longstanding personal hostility to me. My point is that I was monitoring the discussion, but I don't respond to every comment; if I had known this was a formal conclusion/proposal for action being made by the responsible admin, I would have responded. Colonies Chris (talk) 12:42, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Far from it being personal, it is utterly 100% professional. Your repeated controversial edits need to stop, that's been the case for a long time now, and now that's been enforced. And that's a good thing. My advice to the other editor which you linked to was spot on, and it turns out that we did indeed need a formal discussion to bring home to you that you can no longer continue to edit in the way you have been previously. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:59, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for supporting my argument so well by your response. That sort of ugly gloating tone perfectly illustrates why I banned you and why you are unfit to be an admin. Colonies Chris (talk) 10:11, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Well we all know by now how long drama can perpetuate at the dramaz-boardz, so Chris should have kept abreast of this until closure. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:17, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

For the record...

...the thread at ANI has nothing to do with infoboxes, but everything to do with a known antagonist flirting within the boundaries of WP:CLOSE, which is disruptive. Still, never let a small matter like "the truth" get in the way of stirring the pot. Cassianto^Talk 21:46, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

It wasn't stirring the pot, it was just an observation that the underlying root discussion is something I literally can't comprehend. Apologise if it came across otherwise. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 22:59, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

It was a flawed observation. The sceptic in me would say that it was designed to shift the emphasis onto another subject rather than answer the real reason why the thread was started, but I'll AGF. I see another troublemaker has rocked up and is enabling the behaviour on Grant's talk page, so I've removed the article from my watchlist. You lot can butt heads if you wish, but I have better things to do with my time, quite frankly. Cassianto^Talk 00:03, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Merge/AfD ?s

I noticed your entry here and am curious "about their sending to AfD a page they had merged content from, and how you don't do that". Could you elaborate please? Maybe expand a bit on the circumstances and related WP:P&G. The passage caught my eye and struck me as a learning opportunity. ––A Fellow Editor– 19:53, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Basically, once you merge content from a page to another page? The original page has to remain, at least as a redirect, to preseve the attribution history of the people who contributed to the merged content, as required under Wikipedia's licensing. Technically, if the original page is deleted, it makes the merged content sort-of-kind-of-technically a copyright violation, or at least something mightily frowned at. So a page that has been merged can't be deleted. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 22:31, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Ah, I see. The 'article' goes away but the 'page' remains. Thanks, ––A Fellow Editor– 00:14, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Exactly, the history remains visible 'behind' the redirect.

- The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:16, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:K class ferry

Template:K class ferry has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Frietjes (talk) 16:24, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

IP edit warring on Boeing 737 MAX

BR, could you look into semi-protection for Boeing 737 MAX for a few days? A dynamic IP has been edit warring against consensus. Although they are using the talk page, their idea of "discussion" is to justify their reverts and then revert again, along with some juvenile parroting of Marc's comments/advice. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 21:25, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Given the debate on that, I've decided to full protect it for three days, so everything can be hashed out on the talk page, and hopefully the IP can be educated about WP:OR. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:10, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks somehow, Bushranger. What do you mean with WP:OR? I did not present any, but see this specific aviationweek-article as opinion or rough calculation, as any details are missing including if the base was the old or new A321neo cabin. See talk.

@Bilcat: "juvenile parroting": I was mirroring arrogant talk and comments, including yours. Can you see that your words can be seen as deprecative and again - as it again fits - mirroring you as juvenile?

@Bushranger: Sorry for the Bilcat comment on your talk page, i did not start this aggression, but i do not like to be called like that. Peace? 87.150.114.89 (talk) 00:41, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

The article talk page is the place to discuss the validity of sources. The "no scientific analysis conducted" comment was my specific reference to OR. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:42, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Again: "Wikipedia articles must not contain original research." Thats what i am talking about. But a single source which disputes a lot of others, should provide the slightest details to be reliable. And if it fits to this aircraft. 87.150.114.89 (talk) 01:00, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Please discuss this at Talk:Boeing 737 MAX. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 01:01, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Edit on Samuel fields

Did i make a mistake while i was undoing a edit?Thegooduser talk 02:54, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

@Thegooduser: No, you didn't; this edit was the dubious one, and since there had been edits since then a simple undo wouldn't work, so I just selected the last revision prior to that that hadn't had to have been reverted for one reason or another. Yours was still good.

- The Bushranger _{One ping only} 02:57, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

@The Bushranger: you should check the article right now, someone changed the first sentence. I think they vandalized it ... Thegooduser talk 03:00, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

In fact, they did, and they're now gone. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 03:07, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Suggestion

In the future, wikilink your "thataway" arrows to this and suggest they take it; in the spirit of Yogi of course. ^{Atsme📞📧} 15:26, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

It's either that or "the road less traveled by"! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 22:15, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Comcast

Looks like it's time for semi-protection on Comcast."Little brother" created "his own" account, and lots of IP vandalism preceded these edits. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 02:42, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Sometimes they're not even trying. SPP for 14. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 02:47, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

It has moved to AT&T - see here. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 03:30, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

If I could figure out exactly what these folks think doing these things solve, I could buy a lot of coffee. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 04:38, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

They are Snowflakes - they think Net Neutrality means free internet streaming, and that the FCC just took that away from them. Therefore Ajit Pai is a Nazi, and any ISP is a Nazi. To them, the internet is the whole world, so anyone who appears to threaten it is a threat to them, and any protest on the internet is a protest to the whole world. Beyond all that, which I assume you knew, I haven't a clue! BTW, wasn't a big tenet of Fascism government control of the private sector? Yet they think Fascism means not contollling the private sector. Very Strange Ideas. - BilCat (talk) 05:37, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Exactly - hence my wondering what they hope to achieve! I suppose it's the same principle as hashtag activism. "I'm Doing Something!" - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 05:39, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

permission active for create article

hello, iam a new user in Wikipedia i want to created an about an new show the show will aired from ZEE TV show name : Aapke Aa Jaane Se please sir invited me on Teahouse because i want to create this thank You.

You don't need permission to create articles.

As long as you have made a small number of edits, enough for us to be sure you're not some sort of bot, you're allowed to do so, provided that your article's content is verifiable through reliable sources and is written neutrally on a notable subject. Good luck! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 22:16, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

He can't create articles because he's a banned sock. Crow^Caw 00:34, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

People should remember that this is the time of year where socks go on the mantle, not Wikipedia. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:40, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

MTA Bus Recent protection

Is there a way to instead of completely protecting the MTA site to semi protect because the Edit war was with an unknown user without a talk page. Other registered users have had a problem with it. So can you, being an admin, revert it back to my version. Olsen24 (talk) 23:24, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

No, because over the last few days you and other editors have been furiously reverting each other, and your conduct has been the subject of multiple threads at AN/I that you have been notified of but, as far as I can tell, never reacted to. All of you are going to have to WP:DISCUSS with other editors to gain WP:CONSENSUS on the content dispute at the article talk page; meanwhile the page is going to have to remain at WP:THEWRONGVERSION. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:28, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Some of those disputes to my knowledge have been resolved with the use of user talk pages, which this being an ip, doesn't have a user talk page to utilize. with that being said, other users have reverted this edit as well as me, just not as much and as rapidly. Also some of the stuff i was reverting was outright false and needed to be removed and/or changed. Olsen24 (talk) 23:31, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

The years are flying by....

Christmas tree worm, (Spirobranchus gigantic) ^{^{Atsme📞📧} 12:48, 17 December 2017 (UTC)}
	Time To Spread A Little Happy Holiday Cheer!!
	I decorated a special kind of Christmas tree in the spirit of the season. What's especially nice about this digitized version: it doesn't need water won't catch fire *and batteries aren't required.
	Have a very Merry Christmas and a prosperous New Year!! 🍸🎁 🎉

Thank you! And Merry Christmas to you as well. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:36, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Canadian ships

As you will have seen from looking at the page history before making the move, there is no consensus for the title you have chosen. Please revert yourself. If you still want to make a move then propose it in the proper way and seek to gain consensus. DuncanHill (talk) 22:55, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

There is also no consensus for the page at its current title which is the only article in its parent cat to use the awkward format it was at. However, if you insist. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 22:57, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Yes I do. You ignored clear evidence that the title you prefer was disputed. And there's nothing awkward about the title as it was. Read WP:EngVar too while you're at it. DuncanHill (talk) 23:01, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

I'm well aware of ENGVAR; I'm also aware of World War II not Second World War. Either way though, this should be at RM, you're right, so I'm working on that.

- The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:02, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Can you fix the talk page too? You've left it as a redirect to itself. DuncanHill (talk) 23:04, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, I was just scratching my head trying to figure out how on earth that happened, since I moved the page (from the original typo'd move, whoops) to its proper title, and it redirected itself. I think it's all good now though. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:06, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, DuncanHill (talk) 01:15, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

Food irradiation Guy

Thank you for responding (the admin Incidents talk page is now blocked to me as well so I can't discuss there), this is the first time anyone responded to what I said. Everything you said is correct, but you have a few of the facts wrong on this case.

More than one party was against the changes, only one party was for the changes (Guy).
Guy was not telling the truth when he said RSN had unambiguous consensus (although that might be just a rose colored glasses thing).
He omitted the full nature of his change, and that the content was actually cited by a credible source (other than organic consumers) when he explained his case at RSN
He started an edit war with two different parties
He failed to assume good faith when he assumed i was neo freedom
He failed to assume good faith when he called me a nut job
he failed to assume good faith when he reverted the content without reading any of the comments on the talk page.

On another note content is indeed deleted and deleted by different people, but each time it is because of specific reasons that don't have to do with the encyclopedic content or completeness of the article. When this happens on articles i help with (we are down to 3 articles) i do my best to correct if it can be corrected (if someone has not already done it already). For instance someone will delete something for a lack of citation, so I will find a good one if it exists, often times a proper citation will be found existing in the article as some changes orphen lines of text. These people often edit hundreds of articles a day looking for a common theme or policy, because of the breadth of there changes they don't have time to do a good job and fix things, instead they just delete.

In over 10 years I have only gotten involved in 3 edit wars. One was in the beginning when i was learning, but 2 have been in the last 3 months, and I am less active than ever. Later it was found that the second one was a sock puppet for a known vandal who had me reported to the Incidents board. The other was this one, where i started my editing with every courtesy, following every policy and ended up being abused mischaracterized or ignored at every turn (except by Red Rock Canyon who changed his mind after me informing him and built the consensus). I probably will give up editing soon. Hopefully someone can take over these articles.

One last note. If you notice how often Guy brings people onto the Incidents page one might think that his approach might be just a little off. We can only judge people by what they do. 2602:304:415C:56C9:9114:F9E0:AF84:43F5 (talk) 19:49, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

Free Congress Foundation

Is this article supposed to be deleted from Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Free Congress Foundation? It still exists? - — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nikolaiho (talk • contribs) 03:30, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

It was WP:REFUNDed - see here. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 03:32, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

User continuing to cast aspersions

Hello

I have a complaint about someone I believe I need to talk to you about it first, as the acting admin.

Please allow me to refresh your memory first. In WP:ANI, one François Robere committed the act of casting aspersions (revision 816027144), by leveling inappropriate canvassing accusations, with his evidence being just another person who had cast the same aspersions and got blocked for it! Your reaction was that he should apologize. (Revision 816045217.) He seemingly did. (Revision 816151631.) And yet, 4 hours later, he is repeating the same, via the phrase "partners in crime". (revision 816187327.)

I am not unfamiliar with such aspersions. Back in 2014, a User:Matthiaspaul accused me of having engaged in meatpuppetry in a discussion in which I was not even present. That, however, doesn't mean these aspersions are not dangerous or don't hurt. I've even written a satirical piece of this recently-widespread phenomenon.

My question is: What must I do about it? I can't go to ANI, becaue ANI itself is involved. Or can I?

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 06:25, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

This is something that should be addressed at ANI, under the relevant thread. "ANI itself" isn't involved; it's related, but the board itself is not. If this is related to the canvassing accuation, it should be addressed there. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 06:27, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. Should I open a whole new report, or just a subtopic? —Codename Lisa (talk) 06:28, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

Probably a subtopic, so it doesn't get disconnected from the original issue, I'd say. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 06:29, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

Or... I do nothing and let the editors cool down. Hmm... Maybe not playing the game of "block the opposing editor" is the mature thing to do. And what's the worst thing that could happen? They change one "See also" link! Well... Am I being an idiot now?

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 11:40, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

Sometimes, it really is best to go, have a pint (or a cup of tea), and wait for everything to blow over. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 19:53, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

StuRat

The topic ban is offensive. It was driven by scapegoating. It should be rescinded NOW. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 01:28, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Then you should start a new section at AN about it, after asking yourself if it's going to get anywhere and, if not, if it's really the hill you want to die on. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 01:31, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

You'd probably box it up just like you did at ANI. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 01:35, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Um, no? Bugs, that was primarily so, with the issue that was the actual incident resolved, you wouldn't dig yourself a hole. If you want to start a discussion at the appropriate venue for discussing a topic ban repeal, that's your decision to make and not mine, even if I consider it unwise considering the result of the original discussion. I have no opinion on the validity of the ban, not having been there for the situation that spawned it, and I like your style and don't want to see you get yourself kicked off the encyclopedia. But if this is an issue you feel strongly enough to be Worth It, then more power to you. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 01:37, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

I have often seen discussions get cut off (by a variety of users, not you in particular) when a subject takes a turn that they don't want to get into. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 01:42, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

User group for Military Historians

Greetings,

"Military history" is one of the most important subjects when speak of sum of all human knowledge. To support contributors interested in the area over various language Wikipedias, we intend to form a user group. It also provides a platform to share the best practices between military historians, and various military related projects on Wikipedias. An initial discussion was has been done between the coordinators and members of WikiProject Military History on English Wikipedia. Now this discussion has been taken to Meta-Wiki. Contributors intrested in the area of military history are requested to share their feedback and give suggestions at Talk:Discussion to incubate a user group for Wikipedia Military Historians.

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:30, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you

		The WikiProject Barnstar
		For your content work and continued support to Wikipedia as an administrator I am pleased to personally award you with this barnstar and add you to my 2017 New Years Honours List. Thank you for your contributions to WikiProject Military History. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 13:01, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you very much! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 20:09, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Naval Aircraft Modification Unit KDN Gorgon

On 22 December 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Naval Aircraft Modification Unit KDN Gorgon, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the first test flight of the TD2N Gorgon target drone ended in a crash due to a failure of the aircraft's radio control? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Naval Aircraft Modification Unit KDN Gorgon. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Naval Aircraft Modification Unit KDN Gorgon), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Potential edit warring

BR, would you mind monitoring Talk:The Final Countdown (film)#Alternative history? The reasons should be self-explanatory. Also, if you have any assistance from guidelines regarding Wikipedia's "scholarly aspersions", that might be useful to. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 07:37, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

I'll take a look. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 08:12, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Chad Finchum

On 23 December 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Chad Finchum, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that NASCAR Xfinity Series driver Chad Finchum began racing go-karts at age 7, logging more than 200 wins by age 13? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Chad Finchum. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Seasons' Greetings

...to you and yours, from the Great White North! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 16:37, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, and Merry Christmas!

- The Bushranger _{One ping only} 22:08, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

Happy Holidays

From Stave one of Dickens A Christmas Carol

Old Marley was as dead as a door-nail. Mind! I don’t mean to say that I know, of my own knowledge, what there is particularly dead about a door-nail. I might have been inclined, myself, to regard a coffin-nail as the deadest piece of ironmongery in the trade. But the wisdom of our ancestors is in the simile; and my unhallowed hands shall not disturb it, or the Country’s done for. You will therefore permit me to repeat, emphatically, that Marley was as dead as a door-nail.

So you see even Charles was looking for a reliable source :-) Thank you for your contributions to the 'pedia. ~ MarnetteD|Talk 22:35, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, and a very Merry Christmas to you as well! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 22:46, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Egyptian Folklore

I have replied to your message on the Arab dance talk page, kindly sir see the message and sources.

Thank you and happy holidays. Marina Towadros (talk) 06:06, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

MTA Regional Bus Operations bus fleet

Your protection on MTA Regional Bus Operations bus fleet has expired, there has not been any discussion on the talk page, and the user in question (Olsen24) has once again begun editing the page while being dormant during the protection period. What do you want to do here? Block or take it back to ANI? – Train2104 (t • c) 03:37, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

Assuming my ping at the article talk page doesn't get him to engage, I'd say try once more at ANI - the fact that he sat out without discussion and then all but immediately resumed his previous activity upon the expiry of the protection looks a lot like disrupting Wikipedia to make a point, but IMHO it'd be preferable to have another admin take a look (if none do, though, I'll keep an eye on it). - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 03:40, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

I see that #3563 was modified to run solely on diesel. E Eng 09:58, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

Right, that tears it. I'm going to drop a note directly on his talk page, and if he doesn't change his behavior on that, blocks fall. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 10:19, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

Swathe?

[1] E Eng 09:56, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

...well, I won't have to buy a vowel next time, since I have a spare e laying about. (thanks). - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 10:15, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

mail

If you are still about, I would like to send you an email. -- Dlohcierekim (talk) 09:16, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

I generally prefer to handle things here, but if you need to, shoot. Can't guarantee I'll get to it tonight though. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 09:22, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

Oh, this is special. -- Dlohcierekim (talk) 09:28, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

Quite. Forwarded appropriately. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 09:35, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

Oh something juicy? Not knowing just kills the curious BilCat! - BilCat (talk) 09:41, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Well either the most melodramatic of trolls, or...not. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 10:00, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. Inquiring minds need to know, and all that. :) - BilCat (talk) 10:53, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Undiscussed page moves

BR, can look at User:100% Reporter's move history? He just moved Leonardo S.p.A. to Leonardo (company). While probably the right move, his vague explanation ("As the rules of Wikipedia") leaves me unsure that he really understands WP move policies and guidelines. He has some other odd and questionable moves in his history, all undiscussed, that leave me doubting. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 09:38, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Mm, I think he's "Just Right Enough" that there isn't anything reportable, but he probably needs to be watched. Also, that most recent one is actually the one he's most wrong about, per WP:NATURAL and WP:NCCORP! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 10:02, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! Well, I thought he might have had a point with Leonardo, given that the company's official website is at http://www.leonardocompany.com, not the apparently cyber-sqatted http://www.leonardospa.com! - BilCat (talk) 10:38, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Hm. Possible, but that should probably be hashed out through WP:RM, at the very least. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 20:34, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

I agree. - BilCat (talk) 22:40, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Could you keep an eye on...

This? Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 15:52, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

I'll glance there from time to time. (I'm actually a little surprised it's tagged for AmEng, given who "invented" the aircraft carrier.

) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 20:36, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Olsen24

Olsen24 is now modifying my messages on the article's talk page to serve their aims (i.e, using their inferior-quality pictures in the article); see their first change and them repeating the edit after my revert. This is deceptive and clearly not being done in good faith. Time for a block yet? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 22:00, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

...well, he's communicating, but this is an entirely new thing. This I'm willing to chalk up to misunderstanding, but I'm going to give a Sternly Worded Letter about talk page modification. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 22:04, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

A DUCK on WP:DUCK!

See this edit on WP:DUCK by a probable sock of Hoggardhigh. I wonder if he's doing it on purpose, or is just oblivious. I guess we'll never know. Btw, there's an existing SPI report on several IP on the SPI page, so I'm not sure how to use Twinkle to add to it, or if I should add a new report after the existing one. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 22:57, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

That's just quacking me up. As for the SPI, after the IPs listed, you can just add a new line with * {{checkuser|1=[Username]}}. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:33, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Yes, Oh Mallard. And thanks. Someone else has added it now, and it looks like we'll get a Check-User too. - BilCat (talk) 00:44, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

Merge close

BR, as you're uninvolved, could you look at closing the long-running Talk:Alenia Aermacchi M-346 Master#Merger proposal? Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 05:47, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

That one has been there awhile. Consider it done. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 05:52, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. I think the T-100 was already a dark horse in the race. Now, its Russian roots make it a liability the current administration can probably do without, even though Russia probably gets nothing from it. Just the connection is liability enough. - BilCat (talk) 07:23, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

And that's even leaving aside the bipartisan efforts of the Senators from Boeing! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 07:26, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

Yup. I'm sure there's a "Swedish dossier" being produced even now somewhere in Marietta in case that happens. :) (Just kidding LM.) - BilCat (talk) 07:38, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

Raxola

I just updated the FR wiki entry for this Belgian rock group (https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raxola), which came back to life last year after a long hiatus. I notice that you deleted the EN entry way back in 2013, so I thought I'd check with you before re-creating the EN page. I haven't seen the deleted page, but there is enough out there to create a credible bio. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Writie (talk • contribs) 15:06, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for checking in.

As long as there's enough reliable sourcing to establish that they're notable, there shouldn't be a problem. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 19:53, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

Phil M again

BR, can you semi-protect Boeing YB-40 Flying Fortress? Several IP socks of User:Philm540 have been editing for several days now. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 00:35, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Now that's a blast from the past...done. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:41, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Yup. Thanks again. - BilCat (talk) 00:57, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

General Electric

BR, can you look at semi-protection for General Electric? A somewhat-dynamic IP has repeatedly removing maintenance templates without explanation for about a week. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 01:18, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Considering that since the 23rd they've been on a stable IPv6 and were past 4 warnings, I think blocking the IP and seeing what happens might be better. If they IP-hop and keep going, ping me and I'll protect then. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 01:21, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, I think I misrembered about the dynamic part. We'll see what happens next. - BilCat (talk)

Win-911 Software

Hi BR, I saw WIN-911_Software was slated for deletion due to lack of reliable sourcing and notability. Was in the process of updating the sourcing and content about the company's notability when the page was deleted. Wanted to check with you before re-creating the page. Thanks, - Techzette (talk) 19:08, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

I've restored the article to a sandbox in your userspace at User:Techzette/WIN-911 Software, so you can work on it at your leisure to improve it. Good luck! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 20:08, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks BR. I made the updates and improvements and moved the page back to its original space. Maybe this was the incorrect thing to do? It appears to have been pulled down. Any chance you can check on this - what can I improve to help keep the page online. Techzette (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 03:10, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

What you need to do is to improve it in your userspace, then, instead of simply moving it back, go to WP:DRV and propose the restoration of the page to an improved version, so it can be established by the community that it satisfies WP:N and WP:RS before going back into articlespace. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 03:27, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions

Thanks for link me to this. I'll keep it stored for future AFDs. --Molestash (talk) 22:08, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Not a problem. It's a very useful thing, even if it can be somewhat depressing when you realise you can use it to play AfD Bingo. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 22:15, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Woodlawn Cemetery (Fort Lauderdale)

By merging the articles, you made it impossible for it to be in any African-American category. That’s not right. deisenbe (talk) 00:34, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Actually, redirects can be categorised; it's still in all of the categories placed on it. That said, I merged it because I was uncertain if it would survive being challenged on notability; however, it appears that NRHP listing automatically confers notability, so I'm going to unmerge it. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:39, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you!

Hi Bushranger! I've been a user for coming on two years now, but I had never had a DYK nomination be pushed for one of my pages. I just wanted to say thanks for that nomination on Chad Finchum as well as for protecting Mike Senica, statistically the performance just isn't there and getting parked for being too slow is in no way "impressive". It's nice to have a fearless protector of the NASCAR community who will stand up to IP vandals! (P. S. If you haven't read Senica's Racing Reference comments it's a great pendulum from hate to love and back...) So yeah, just wanted to tell you that you're great. Willsome429 (talk) 02:56, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you! It's good to have people who are writing about the topic. And I've been watching Senica's page since back when it was first (prooooobably COI-)created, it's been 'interesting' to follow the pattern of throwaway accounts and IPs there... - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 03:25, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Yep, the page flow was terrible before I changed it to something sensible. On the topic of NASCAR, I’m starting to transition to Simple English Wikipedia, where David Pearson doesn’t have a page. Willsome429 (talk) 16:00, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Well, I think that sounds like a Worthy Endeavor. The Silver Fox deserves to be known! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 20:50, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Arab Dance and Belly Dance pages

Hello Admin, The Bushranger;

Thanks a lot for your help Sir and for informing me that when a new page is created with many accurate data lacking we should fix it rather than asking for page deletion. I took your advice sir in the Talk Page and started putting information with every reliable source.

Then Suddenly the creator (User:Sarah Canbel) stopped and at same time right after the Talk Page discussion (User:Swazzo) started reverting every single edit with no respect to discussion made then posted on my wall an 'Edit War threat' though he was the one systematically removing sourced information since 3 days, not me. Whenever i add a source and information, he kept removing them, as if editing is not allowed and one of his edits said that page should be like User:SarahCanbel edits only?.

Also on the page of Belly dance when i then put the historical name of Egyptian Dance in the page, sourcing it with a very reliable source as the Independent^[1] he kept removing the source and name. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia where everything should be accurate, the name is literally used as a Dancing Course in endless schools worldwide, students go and register for Egyptian Belly Dance.

Thank You again and your advises will be much appreciated. Marina Towadros (talk) 19:49, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

References

^ How the ancient Egyptian art of belly dancing is suffering a wobble in popularity. {{citation}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |1= (help)

I'm glad that I was able to help. The thing to do in those cases, is to go to the talk page and lay out your concerns; the golden rule is, whenever possible in those cases, even though it's horrendously frustrating, to 'focus on content, not contributors'; lay out the edits you wish to make, with the sources that back them, and let a discussion take place to form consensus for their inclusion, based on the policies of neutrality, verifiability, balance, and not being considered a fringe view. Once this is done, if the proposed changes gain consensus, that's all good; otherwise, the next step, if you're unsatisfied with the result, would be dispute resolution. Unfortunatly there's a lot to learn with editing Wikipedia, and sometimes the wiki-jargon can come across as obtuse or even combative to a newcomer, but if you calmly lay out a case that is backed with verifiable facts, you can make a difference and a good mark here. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 20:45, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Spamuser

Hi. In view of this edit, you may wish to upgrade the block to a username/spam block. However, it's your call. In the meantime I will delete the user page as spam. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:41, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Not a problem; I actually meant to zap that myself but got distracted. As for the block, I decided to go a little softer, since it wasn't actually "Buy Our Stuff Now Here's What I Got" for once. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 03:46, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	You just summed up the whole bloody shabbang in one sentence. Short of making that policy, take this. Happy New Year; another tempting opportunity to do it alloveragain... and again... and again... >SerialNumber54129^{...speculates} 09:51, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Heh. If you're referring to AN, I decided that probably wasn't productive and redacted it, as I can get downright maudlin late at night...but thanks anyway, and a very Happy New Year to you too! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 09:52, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Ironically, here it's still only 10 AM, and I just finished a night-shift :) so I was probably in a perfect position to appreciate it! >SerialNumber54129^{...speculates} 09:57, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

HMRS

Hallo, Thanks for your help with Historical Model Railway Society. Although they include the 1950 in their logo their "History" section is pretty feeble and doesn't offer any details, so it's great to find someone who has book sources. Yesterday was one of those editing sessions which started when husband commented that he'd got "C. Hamilton Ellis"'s book listed under "H" not "E" in his list of "railway books to perhaps buy some day" (at which I sneaked a look before ordering that one for Christmas for him, from AbeBooks), though the cover said plain "Hamilton Ellis". It became clear that the hyphenated name at which the article was created was wrong, and I moved the article and added umpteen redirects from variations. I found his obituary in The Times (after a shorter death notice which produced a nickname), which mentioned the HMRS - so I created a redlink for it ... and couldn't resist digging around to find enough info to turn it blue. Thus another afternoon goes down the sink of Wikipedia editing - fun, though! Wishing you a Happy New Year, and a year of interesting editing. PamD 10:26, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

I know that feeling very well, I've lost count of the times I've gone "hm, this looks interesting-" and the next thing I know I've banged out 2000 words on an aircraft or rocket. I'm glad I was able to help! Happy New Year. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 11:02, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

December 2017 Military History Writers' Contest

		The WikiChevrons
		On behalf of the Milhist coordinators, I hereby award you the WikiChevrons, for placing first in the December 2017 Military History Article Writing Contest with a staggering 229 points from 53 articles. Well done and congratulations, AustralianRupert (talk) 08:09, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 08:42, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Talk pages and forum

BR, could you look at this and preceding diffs on Talk:Netflix. I'd removed them before, but they came back again. I just wanted to make sure I'm not overreacting. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 09:17, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

That pretty much says WP:NOTFORUM to me, yeah. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 09:21, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

The Bushranger,
Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and a Happy New Year to you and yours! North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 13:29, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

– Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year}} to user talk pages.

Thank you, and a very Happy New Year to you too! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 20:16, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

AFD

can you explain what you said about speedy close and redirect at the AFD? I mean, doesn't the AFD and a redirect do the same thing? Elektricity (talk) 05:20, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

AfD is articles for Deletion, and you specifically said you wanted the article deleted after having merged it. Mergers would be discussed at WP:PM, and if content has been merged to another article (either through Proposed Mergers or boldly done) from the article in question, it must be maintained as a redirect in order to preserve the contribution history and attribution as is required by Wikipedia's licensing. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 18:57, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Radioplane OQ-17

On 3 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Radioplane OQ-17, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Radioplane OQ-17 target drone was claimed to be able to match the maneuverability of any fighter aircraft of the mid-1940s? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Radioplane OQ-17. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Radioplane OQ-17), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Northrop Grumman

BR, could you look at semi-protection for Northrop Grumman for a day or two? It's apparently the target of hoaxish vandalism, per Prof.Dr.Habib Maulana Sidiq and Habib Maulana Sidiq. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 08:06, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Zapped it for a day. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 18:58, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 02:46, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

October to December 2017 Milhist article reviewing

		Military history reviewers' award
		On behalf of the Milhist coordinators, you are hereby awarded the WikiChevrons for reviewing a Milhist article at PR, GAN, ACR or FAC during the period October to December 2017. Thank you for supporting Wikipedia's quality content processes. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:55, 3 January 2018 (UTC) Keep track of upcoming reviews. Just copy and paste `{{WPMILHIST Review alerts}}` to your user space

Thank you! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 09:22, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Soft deletion

Good evening! I noticed in a couple AFDs that rather than relist them, you could have closed as a soft delete. Basically like an uncontested PROD. Unless perhaps you knew that and caught something I didn't, in which case I apologize. Best wishes. Killiondude (talk) 05:45, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

No problem, that's just me being a grumpy tired old grognard and forgetting that consensus changed over the last few years while my editing was spotty in the "no discussion closure" department! Once such a closure would have been grounds for a {{minnow}}, and I keep working in that regard out of sheer habit (like the one stretch of road that went from a limit of 35 to 45 a few years back, and yet I still find myself halfway through it sometimes before remembering!). - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 06:10, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Would like your input in a discussion

Hi,

I would appreciate it if you could give your input regarding https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_naval_ship_classes_in_service#Split_this_article_into_multiple_articles Thanks in advance Dragnadh (talk) 01:57, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

I'll take a look. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 02:01, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Panoz Avezzano

On 7 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Panoz Avezzano, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Panoz Avezzano, unveiled at the 2016 Petit Le Mans, is named after a town in Italy that was destroyed by an earthquake? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Panoz Avezzano. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Panoz Avezzano), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Mifter (talk) 00:02, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for KA2N Gorgon IIA

On 8 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article KA2N Gorgon IIA, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ...that the United States Navy placed orders for the Gorgon IIA (pictured) and Gorgon IIC missiles with the Singer Manufacturing Company, better known for its sewing machines? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/KA2N Gorgon IIA. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, KA2N Gorgon IIA), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Mifter (talk) 00:03, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for CTV-N-2 Gorgon IIC

On 8 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article CTV-N-2 Gorgon IIC, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ...that the United States Navy placed orders for the Gorgon IIA (pictured) and Gorgon IIC missiles with the Singer Manufacturing Company, better known for its sewing machines? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, CTV-N-2 Gorgon IIC), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Mifter (talk) 00:03, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXLI, January 2018

Your Military History Newsletter

Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results
Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content
Book review: Hawkeye7 looks at tropical medicine and Operation Market Garden
Op-ed: Hawkeye7 on US Army doctrine in World War I
Timeline: This month in World War I

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If you are a project member who does not want delivery, please remove your name from this page. Your editors, Ian Rose (talk) and Nick-D (talk) 13:15, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Caproni Ca.4

BR, could you move-protect Caproni Ca.4? Pete's doing his own thing again. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 15:12, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Move-protected for a week. Sometimes I have to wonder... - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 22:13, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Facebook Aquila

On 9 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Facebook Aquila, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Facebook's Aquila solar-powered drone is intended to provide internet access to remote regions of Earth using no more electricity than three blow dryers? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Facebook Aquila. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Facebook Aquila), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Since you've already commented...

...it's not canvassing to ask if you saw this comment. Hilarious! :) - BilCat (talk) 01:23, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 01:28, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Type 055 cruiser vs. destroyer

I'm not sure whether there is sufficient evidence to rename the article. Could you comment on the talk page? Thanks. - RovingPersonalityConstruct (talk, contribs) 00:17, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Replied there. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:48, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Muroc Maru

On 11 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Muroc Maru, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a "Japanese cruiser" was built in Southern California in 1943? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Muroc Maru. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Muroc Maru), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:04, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Brilliant Idea Barnstar
	This is for all the terrific hooks you keep coming up with for all the aviation and fighter planes articles that you create. It's hard not to keep slotting them into the lead slot for all the great images you supply as well. Thanks for making our job building DYK prep sets so much easier! Best, Yoninah (talk) 00:51, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! The muse kicked me in the behind last month and whispered "psst, go fill those redlinks in the missile-designation templates", and who was I to argue?

- The Bushranger _{One ping only} 01:40, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

National Championship POV vandalism

BR, could you consider semi-protection for College Football Playoff and 2018 College Football Playoff National Championship? Obviously this is controversial, but the articles cover the UCF claims already, and any changes to listing UCF instead of UA as the champion need a consensus. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 03:10, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Protected the latter for three days. I'm not sure the former reaches the point of SPP, yet. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 07:46, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. Believe me, as a UGA fan, I'd personally rather see UCF named the national champion this year! Objectively, UCF plays in Division 1 FBS, which means the CFP determined the national champion for the FBS. That means AL is the national champion, as much as it sticks in my craw to admit it. Ah, the State of Georgia curse! - BilCat (talk) 08:50, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

I've always eyed the CFP with a gimlet eye from the get-go, really. Acting as if there is a stone tablet carried down from Mount Sinai that says thou shalt have a playoff in every sport to the point of getting Congress threatening to take action was just ridiculous... - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 09:16, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

I actually like the CFP, even when my team loses. If the playoffs are good enough for the FCS (Div I-AA to us old-timers), why not the FBS? I've been a supporter of the Plus-One system idea from way before the BCS came about. I think 8 teams is probably too much in the current season set up, but it'll probably happen eventually, given media favorites like Ohio State getting left out too often. - BilCat (talk) 09:35, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

But yes, threats from Congress are generally ridiculous, no matter what they're about! - BilCat (talk) 09:38, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Admin help

BR, see here, and here for a similar edit from a couple of months ago. Do you know any admins on Commons that can look into this? Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 19:52, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Unfortunatly, when it comes to Commons administration, I know no-tink, no-tink. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:06, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for PTV-N-2 Gorgon IV

On 12 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article PTV-N-2 Gorgon IV, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Gorgon IV (pictured) was the first ramjet-powered aircraft to successfully fly in the United States? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/PTV-N-2 Gorgon IV. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, PTV-N-2 Gorgon IV), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:03, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for WS-124A Flying Cloud

On 12 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article WS-124A Flying Cloud, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Project Flying Cloud was expected to affect an area "comparable in size to that affected by a low-yield nuclear weapon"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/WS-124A Flying Cloud. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, WS-124A Flying Cloud), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 12:02, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Air Board (Australia)

On 13 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Air Board (Australia), which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that the Australian Air Board (inaugural members pictured) chose 31 March rather than 1 April as the founding date of the Royal Australian Air Force to avoid being called "April Fools"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Air Board (Australia). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Cat Creek, Montana

Meant to get over and leave a note about changing the protection. I've worked that one for years, initially at SPI, plus a couple more than get hit from the same crew. I figured that had we discussed it, you would probably agree, so I just changed it for good. Tired of the lost man hours on the "mountain lion" set of articles. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 23:06, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Not a problem. I have a (another) WP:RAF filed, but ECP may at least keep that page's hash settled. Now to see if they continue going after the other articles in exchange, of course! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:10, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

There are only 2 or 3 articles they go after. Honestly, it would seem that ECP would have less overhead and an almost guaranteed success rate. It wasn't what it originally was designed for (GG) but it works pretty well for LTA/vandalism. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 23:38, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Orchard Pond Parkway

On 15 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Orchard Pond Parkway, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Orchard Pond Parkway is Florida's first privately-built toll road? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Orchard Pond Parkway. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Orchard Pond Parkway), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:06, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

external links

@The Bushranger:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#External_links
the pages are still being attacked by editors.
ether you are right or you did not understand about the official page.50.254.21.213 (talk) 03:12, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) As I read it, the system doesn't allow IP editors to make certain changes. This isn't an admin function, it is a function the community as a whole has decided to implement without any assistence from admin: a bot enforces it, not an admin. It is a content concern, not a behavioral concern, thus outside the ability of any admin to change. WP:IP addresses are not people is worth a read. There are several things that an IP only editor can't do, although they can do basic editing on most articles. It may be inconvenient at times, but history has shown unfettered access by unregistered editors is often more inconvenient. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 03:18, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
  - I think he's referring to this edit, by a person, but the point stands that these aren't appropriate external links for the article. WP:ELNO should be consulted by the IP. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 03:19, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
what you said here not the edit privlage.
(I will, however, point to WP:ELMINOFFICIAL as a reminder: "More than one official link should be provided only when the additional links provide the reader with significant unique content and are not prominently linked from other official websites. For example, if the main page of the official website for an author contains a link to the author's blog and Twitter feed, then it is not appropriate to provide links to all three. Instead, provide only the main page of the official website in this situation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Barek#external_links
# 3. foundations web site.50.254.21.213 (talk) 03:27, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
@The Bushranger: 50.254.21.213 (talk) 03:29, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, and neither of the links you are attempting to edit-war into the article are appropriate external links. The foundation's website is the foundation's website, not Helen Balfour Morrison's official website. You need to make a case for it being appropriate on the article's talk page. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 03:31, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
i thought on the other page you said it was ok and that is why you closed without any body answering the 2 issues except you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sybil_Shearer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Balfour_Morrison i am know being attracted on all fronts. 50.254.21.213 (talk) 03:43, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Be bold can be explained in three words: "Go for it". The Wikipedia community encourages users to be bold when updating the encyclopedia.50.254.21.213 (talk) 03:46, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
and the comparison i used was Ronald Regan, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan#External_links 50.254.21.213 (talk) 03:50, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
@The Bushranger:50.254.21.213 (talk) 03:52, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
i am being told it is a conflict of interest because i know one of the board members.
all i have done is cite research and put them in i do not have the fortay to edit or add.50.254.21.213 (talk) 04:14, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
i have done nothing wrong and now the page is protected i am being treated unfairly see the page before i got there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Helen_Balfour_Morrison&oldid=774435497 50.254.21.213 (talk) 04:28, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
- It was a content dispute, and ANI is not a place to handle content disputes, especially when the answer is clearly stated in the policies and guidelines, as I quoted. I'm sorry you misunderstood, but I'm afraid I can't help that. If you want to include the link on the page, you have to establish a consensus for its inclusion on the article talk page. Please see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS and WP:BRD. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 04:31, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
? can you tell me about the external links on the Ronald Regan page and hundreds others if policies says limit external links. ?
i thought administrators could step in. if the rules are clear and like RR can be there 50.254.21.213 (talk) 04:42, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

@Dennis Brown:50.254.21.213 (talk) 04:45, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

The presence or absence of links on other pages is irrelevant. Administrators do not adjudicate content disputes; they are resolved by establishing consensus through discussion at the article talk page. This is a content dispute. Please discuss your proposed links on the article talk page. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 09:30, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

I am being harassed by multiple users and administrators.
talk page stalked

50.254.21.213 (talk) 02:55, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

you said;
"As noted, the links of the subject are acceptable, but they have to be placed by an autoconfirmed user."
so why am i being forced to go to other administrators You Do It ! 50.254.21.213 (talk) 05:28, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
- You are not being "stalked". You are making inappropriate edits so people are giving closer scruiny to your edits. And the links of the subject are acceptable but the links are not of the subject and are therefore not acceptable. Please drop the stick and back away from the horse carcass. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:34, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

This is turning into trolling, and I've issued a final warning after reading their talk page plus all the other fuss they've scattered all over the Wiki. I'm not as nice as you, and will gladly pull the trigger if he doesn't drop it. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 02:39, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
- Even my good cop has run out, I'm afraid; it's time to apply the WP:NOTHERE. And/or maybe the WP:CIR. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 03:33, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Kaman K-16B

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Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Page deletion query

Hi there,

I noticed the page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skipp_A._Haynes_Williamson - was deleted for the following reason: 23:09, 8 December 2017 The Bushranger (talk | contribs) deleted page Skipp A. Haynes Williamson (R3: Recently created, implausible redirect)

Can you please help me understand why the page was deleted and how I can go about fixing the page to have it restored?

Many thanks edwinahelen — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edwinahelen (talk • contribs) 23:11, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

It was deleted because the page was hijacked, changing a Czech city's page to that page in order to bypass the New Page Patrol review. If the subject is notable through reliable sources, than a new page can be created, from scratch, for him by someone who is independent of the subject. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:27, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by 'changing a Czech city's page to that page in order to bypass the New Page Patrol review' - can you please clarify? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edwinahelen (talk • contribs) 04:06, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

There was a page that existed, on the Czech village of Hvězdoňovice. Somebody who was hired to write an article but wanted to hide they were making paid contributions got the idea of taking that page, rewriting it to be about Skipp A. Haynes Williamson, and then moving the page to Skipp A. Haynes Williamson, believing that the people who watch the 'newly created pages' feed and would spot the creation of a paid, promotional article, would not see it, as it was a move of an "existing" article, and therefore their spam would be allowed to exist on Wikipedia. As is obvious, that violation of multiple important policies did not work, hence the article being deleted. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 05:55, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

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Mifter (talk) 15:31, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

SPI

You must of missed my ping the other day. Could I get you to weigh in here, regarding an account you blocked about a month ago? Thanks in advance. Sir Sputnik (talk) 04:17, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

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— Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 14:32, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

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