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Spicks and Specks (2014 TV series)

Hello, many thanks for your review of the Spicks and Specks (2014 TV series) article and the name change. I felt my choice of name was 'clumsy' but, despite much thought, couldn't come up with anything better; your choice is excellent. Its funny when you look at something and go, "Why didn't I think of that". Thanks again for reviewing. Cheers. Melbourne3163 (talk) 19:55, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Thanks for updating Template:Perth Scorchers current squad - that source regarding shirt numbers was a good discovery. Do you feel like updating any of the other BBL templates? StAnselm (talk) 19:47, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
I've just done the Stars and the Renegades. StAnselm (talk) 20:43, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the beer! That {{Squad maintenance}} template is a ripper, isn't it. Found it on a Liverpool squad template the other day. Huge thanks to User:Leyo for creating it. I'll do the Sydneys later tonight. The-Pope (talk) 03:38, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
Great! I just checked out the 2013 AFL Rising Star nominees template, and found that hadn't been added to Luke Brown (footballer). StAnselm (talk) 06:08, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
Well, the handy tool shows that Template:Australia Cricket Team is a bit of a mess. Should we drop the shirt numbers? I don't know if they are the same in ODIs as in T20Is. Anyway, maybe this list is the right one - I don't know if it's the same as the contract list. StAnselm (talk) 21:10, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
No, it isn't. StAnselm (talk) 21:12, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Broo Premium Lager

Just a thought but it is probably easier to move the article over to Broo Brewery, as there is a fair bit of press about Grogan's stance on a 100% Australia owned brewery - with a section on Broo Premium Lager we can also include a section on Australia Lager. Dan arndt (talk) 03:19, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Hahaha happy new year

To you too, trust the season of fivolity and excess has passed you well, satusuro 00:49, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Australian sport naming rules

Thank you for adding yourself to the discussion, and for your contribution. --John (talk) 00:37, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

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AFL Ladder

Hi,

I noticed that all of the AFL Ladder is hardcoded. Isn't there a way we could make some of the statistics (Matches played, goal %, points) coded automatically? (like the A-League ladder for example)

--SuperJew (talk) 12:48, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Another RfC on naming

Please see the further RfC here.--John (talk) 18:54, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

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Michael Barlow

Hi you changed my edit about Michael Barlow's nickname. I know him personally and his instagram name is also benderbarlow so "bender" is a nickname.

Thanks JackETC (talk) 00:05, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia requires reliable sources to verify information and also prohibites original research, such as "I know him personally". In terms of footballers nicknames, I believe that the infobox should only show the high profile/widely used nicknames such as Plugger, Buddy etc, not all low frequency private names. The-Pope (talk) 03:35, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Fair enough. Just a curious question are you interested in darts? Because I saw that you have made a couple of edits on players

JackETC (talk) 07:48, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

no, not interested in darts I think those edits were part of the WP:URBLP unreferenced biography article drive. I just find any sports article much easier to reference than academics or artists! The-Pope (talk) 12:49, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Fair enough :)

JackETC (talk) 22:03, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Micro Edits

Ok I will stop but would you call this a micro edit

Changing the game, then saving Changing the stats end, then saving And if they kicking a goal, then saving But is micro editing illegal and will I get reported if I keep doing it?

JackETC (talk) 10:44, 6 May 2014 (UTC)


Ok thats for that I have just updated Adam Kennedy (footballer), Shane Mumford and Sam Frost recently and didn't put anything in the edit summary, in future I will put something in the edit summary but can it just be 'updated stats' or 'stats'?

THANKS JackETC (talk) 23:56, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Template

I'll put it in my sandbox

JackETC (talk) 21:08, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

you may be interested in

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Australian_rules_football club infoboxes section

itemn about club infoboxes - data wagging the tail... sad - as if there werent enough things in life, some bright spark melds totally different codes into a one size fits all. really dumb as well.

cheers trust all is well satusuro 15:16, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, saw that, but seem to be enough people worrying about it already. RL getting in the way of me caring too much about stuff like that ATM. Cheers, The-Pope (talk) 15:57, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
yeah rl is a bit of a b these days... keep well and dont let the b-s get to you!! satusuro 16:03, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Page move

The page Terry Board (footballer born 1968) has been moved to Terry Board (footballer). Sounds better? OccultZone (Talk) 13:29, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

No, as there is Terry Board (footballer born 1945) too. Just didn't get around to making the dab page yet, as neither is sufficiently notable enough to be a primary topic. The-Pope (talk) 14:20, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
I had confirmed my move from an admin, User_talk:Edgar181#Page_moves. Whenever you see, you may move them. OccultZone (Talk) 14:43, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Nude Matildas

Seems to be an outbreak of 'nuddity' your holiness, see Bridgett Starr. ;-) --220 of Borg 16:12, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Great post

I think that this is one of the best explanations I've ever seen for a new user explaining how to navigate the COI rules. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 10:43, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, we've all been new once, and you can imagine, them being told by their boss to "go fix it". They are on a hiding to nothing. Thankfully they asked first, and didn't just jump in, cut paste their uni website/brochure onto here, then wonder/whinge/complain about being reverted/blocked. I'm not big on editting education articles, is there someone you know in the Aust Edu project that could help out? The-Pope (talk) 10:50, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
No, not really to be honest and as the quality of uni articles is pretty uneven I can't even recommend an example of good practice. Nick-D (talk) 10:59, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

2013 Under 18 All-Australian Template

Hi there me again I've just been thinking about the under 18 championships and I pave made a the all Australian team from last year into a template on a sandbox. If you could please visit the the sandbox it's on my user page (you should find it easily) and tell me what you think and if we should give it the go ahead. Thanks JackETC (talk) 03:41, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

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[Bridgette Starr]

Ms Starr's article has two facts about her:

  1. She played football
  2. She posed for a calendar (nude)

There is so little info on her that any item included or left out creates an imbalance. I would prefer we left in the nude calendar info. If the article develops and we later decide that the nude calendar is really an insignifacnt fact then delete it. If we delete it now we are deleting 50% of what we know about her and that seems wrong to me. Wayne Jayes (talk) 21:40, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

You are looking at this exactly the wrong way. She is notable for being a footballer. She played over 50 times for the national team, at a world cup and the Olympics. She also would have played for state, club or other teams during that time. She probably also did other work. Once, during that time, she appeared in a nude calendar. It is not 50% of what she did. That feature article on her from deadly vibe didn't mention the calendar. Maybe, when the article gets expanded more, a comment about the calendar might be appropriate, and due weighting to it relative to everything else, but it isn't now. And really, using a primary source as a ref shows no notability at all, if it was significant, we must use secondary sources that discuss the image /calendar, not just a copyright image that proves it exists. The-Pope (talk) 00:42, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

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Re: Your changes to Talk:1989 Brownlow Medal

Thanks for correcting my errors on the page! I didn't realise that the template could use afl=yes for that. The project pages say to use the template I added to mark that the article was supported by WP:AFL. I will make a note on the project pages that if there is an Australian Portal template on the page, we can just add afl=yes to it and be done with it! Back to the grindstone, but if you spot anything else I did wrong, please don't hesitate to let me know! I'm much better at falling down holes than I am at filling them in :) CharlieTheCabbie|Yack to the driver 19:22, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

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AFL Tables

Hi. I think most I have fixed so far have been citations, rather than external links. I've been doing the same link repair for both as I just figured we should get it done as quickly as possible, but I can see the benefit of using the template. Don't think I'm familiar with the template moving process either. Happy to hold off for now so this can be discussed. Jevansen (talk) 07:58, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

AFL season articles

No specific reason, but I felt that it would have been appropriate to include the match report from their official website (e.g. Fremantle match reports come from their official website), as it may differ in wording to the report that is written on the official AFL website. This in my opinion may be to prevent any bias by the club's official website.

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Odd revert

I guess you made an inadvertent mistake when you did this? Otherwise could you explain your rationale? The Rambling Man (talk) 20:44, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

I had no idea I did that, must have been an overly touchy touch screen. Sorry User:BlackJack! The-Pope (talk) 02:36, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
Easily done. No problem. Jack | talk page 18:46, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Bouncers

I wonder if Keith Bollard is still alive? He'd be about 88. It'd be interesting to hear his take on this. Moondyne (talk) 05:33, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

We think the same Mr MD. I did search last night, there is no Keith Bollard listed in the Perth cemetery listings, but this indicates that he may have moved to Victoria in 1968. Haven't tried searching that hard in Vic, but there is one in the white pages. The-Pope (talk) 06:05, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

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