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New Page Review newsletter November 2019

Hello Noq,

This newsletter comes a little earlier than usual because the backlog is rising again and the holidays are coming very soon.

Getting the queue to 0

There are now 814 holders of the New Page Reviewer flag! Most of you requested the user right to be able to do something about the huge backlog but it's still roughly less than 10% doing 90% of the work. Now it's time for action.
Exactly one year ago there were 'only' 3,650 unreviewed articles, now we will soon be approaching 7,000 despite the growing number of requests for the NPR user right. If each reviewer soon does only 2 reviews a day over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by every reviewer doing only 1 review every 2 days - that's only a few minutes work on the bus on the way to the office or to class! Let's get this over and done with in time to relax for the holidays.
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Our next newsletter will announce the winners of some really cool awards.

Coordinator

Admin Barkeep49 has been officially invested as NPP/NPR coordinator by a unanimous consensus of the community. This is a complex role and he will need all the help he can get from other experienced reviewers.

This month's refresher course

Paid editing is still causing headaches for even our most experienced reviewers: This official Wikipedia article will be an eye-opener to anyone who joined Wikipedia or obtained the NPR right since 2015. See The Hallmarks to know exactly what to look for and take time to examine all the sources.

Tools

• It is now possible to select new pages by date range. This was requested by reviewers who want to patrol from the middle of the list.
• It is now also possible for accredited reviewers to put any article back into the New Pages Feed for re-review. The link is under 'Tools' in the side bar.

Reviewer Feedback

Would you like feedback on your reviews? Are you an experienced reviewer who can give feedback to other reviewers? If so there are two new feedback pilot programs. New Reviewer mentorship will match newer reviewers with an experienced reviewer with a new reviewer. The other program will be an occasional peer review cohort for moderate or experienced reviewers to give feedback to each other. The first cohort will launch November 13.

Second set of eyes

• Not only are New Page Reviewers the guardians of quality of new articles, they are also in a position to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged for deletion and maintenance and that new authors are not being bitten. This is an important feature of your work, especially while some routine tagging for deletion can still be carried out by non NPR holders and inexperienced users. Read about it at the Monitoring the system section in the tutorial. If you come across such editors doing good work, don't hesitate to encourage them to apply for NPR.
• Do be sure to have our talk page on your watchlist. There are often items that require reviewers' special attention, such as to watch out for pages by known socks or disruptive editors, technical issues and new developments, and of course to provide advice for other reviewers.

Arbitration Committee

The annual ArbCom election will be coming up soon. All eligible users will be invited to vote. While not directly concerned with NPR, Arbcom cases often lead back to notability and deletion issues and/or actions by holders of advanced user rights.

Community Wish list

There is to be no wish list for WMF encyclopedias this year. We thank Community Tech for their hard work addressing our long list of requirements which somewhat overwhelmed them last year, and we look forward to a successful completion.

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Reference arw added dear

I had added reference to arya samaj you can check even you can check the reference from some Islamic text if Ahmadiya and Contact Arya Samaj Qadian to confirm. I can provide you official number of aryasamaj. Aivaofficial (talk) 01:22, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

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"Ccody Simpson Discography" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Ccody Simpson Discography. Since you had some involvement with the Ccody Simpson Discography redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. CycloneYoris ^talk! 06:12, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter December 2019

Reviewer of the Year

This year's Reviewer of the Year is Rosguill. Having gotten the reviewer PERM in August 2018, they have been a regular reviewer of articles and redirects, been an active participant in the NPP community, and has been the driving force for the emerging NPP Source Guide that will help reviewers better evaluate sourcing and notability in many countries for which it has historically been difficult.

Special commendation again goes to Onel5969 who ends the year as one of our most prolific reviewers for the second consecutive year. Thanks also to Boleyn and JTtheOG who have been in the top 5 for the last two years as well.

Several newer editors have done a lot of work with CAPTAIN MEDUSA and DannyS712 (who has also written bots which have patrolled thousands of redirects) being new reviewers since this time last year.

Thanks to them and to everyone reading this who has participated in New Page Patrol this year.

Top 10 Reviewers over the last 365 days

Rank	Username	Num reviews	Log
1	Rosguill (talk)	47,395	Patrol Page Curation
2	Onel5969 (talk)	41,883	Patrol Page Curation
3	JTtheOG (talk)	11,493	Patrol Page Curation
4	Arthistorian1977 (talk)	5,562	Patrol Page Curation
5	DannyS712 (talk)	4,866	Patrol Page Curation
6	CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk)	3,995	Patrol Page Curation
7	DragonflySixtyseven (talk)	3,812	Patrol Page Curation
8	Boleyn (talk)	3,655	Patrol Page Curation
9	Ymblanter (talk)	3,553	Patrol Page Curation
10	Cwmhiraeth (talk)	3,522	Patrol Page Curation

(The top 100 reviewers of the year can be found here)

Redirect autopatrol

A recent Request for Comment on creating a new redirect autopatrol pseduo-permission was closed early. New Page Reviewers are now able to nominate editors who have an established track record creating uncontroversial redirects. At the individual discretion of any administrator or after 24 hours and a consensus of at least 3 New Page Reviewers an editor may be added to a list of users whose redirects will be patrolled automatically by DannyS712 bot III.

Source Guide Discussion

Set to launch early in the new year is our first New Page Patrol Source Guide discussion. These discussions are designed to solicit input on sources in places and topic areas that might otherwise be harder for reviewers to evaluate. The hope is that this will allow us to improve the accuracy of our patrols for articles using these sources (and/or give us places to perform a WP:BEFORE prior to nominating for deletion). Please watch the New Page Patrol talk page for more information.

This month's refresher course

While New Page Reviewers are an experienced set of editors, we all benefit from an occasional review. This month consider refreshing yourself on Wikipedia:Notability (geographic features). Also consider how we can take the time for quality in this area. For instance, sources to verify human settlements, which are presumed notable, can often be found in seconds. This lets us avoid the (ugly) 'Needs more refs' tag.

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Gul Ahmed Wikipedia Page

Hi,

i already messaged you regarding Gul Ahmed Web Page and marked the necessary citation as well. all the contents have been taken from audited and published annual book of Gul Ahmed. kindly review the same and do not restrict it to "Ideas by Gul Ahmed" only.

Regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Energizedsoul (talk • contribs) 12:46, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

The reference you changed does not point to a valid web page - so you did not provide the necessary citation. You repeatedly re-added an invalid citation. noq (talk) 13:18, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer newsletter February 2020

Hello Noq,

Source Guide Discussion

The first NPP source guide discussion is now underway. It covers a wide range of sources in Ghana with the goal of providing more guidance to reviewers about sources they might see when reviewing pages. Hopefully, new page reviewers will join others interested in reliable sources and those with expertise in these sources to make the discussion a success.

Redirects

New to NPP? Looking to try something a little different? Consider patrolling some redirects. Redirects are relatively easy to review, can be found easily through the New Pages Feed. You can find more information about how to patrol redirects at WP:RPATROL.

Discussions and Resources

• There is an ongoing discussion around changing notifications for new editors who attempt to write articles.
• A recent discussion of whether Michelin starred restraunts are notable was archived without closure.
• A resource page with links pertinent for reviewers was created this month.
• A proposal to increase the scope of G5 was withdrawn.

Refresher

Geographic regions, areas and places generally do not need general notability guideline type sourcing. When evaluating whether an article meets this notability guideline please also consider whether it might actually be a form of WP:SPAM for a development project (e.g. PR for a large luxury residential development) and not actually covered by the guideline.

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16:08, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

British Lions

I have read your message with interest. However, I beg to differ. I think the Lions are now referred to as the British and Irish Lions since the 1997 tour to the Republic, so should be correctly referred to as that. Just calling them, ‘Lions’, is factually incorrect.

Thanks and regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.140.23.152 (talk) 13:11, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @81.140.23.152: That's simply not correct. The first time they were referred to as the British and Irish Lions was on the 2001 tour to Australia. Also, referring to them just as the Lions is absolutely fine, just not on the first instance of mentioning them. – PeeJay 13:16, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

And linking to ru is definitely not appropriate. noq (talk) 13:18, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

what the hell are you doing

mr noq i want to say that you don't have to interfare on my basic edits and get out from wikipedia. warning for you fucking man

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Eriazco (talk • contribs) 16:01, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Extended confirmed user

Why I have not been granted extended con firmed user status ?? Editor wikip6 (talk) 05:18, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

June 2020

Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit you made to Qadian, did not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use the sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. PepperBeast (talk) 18:35, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

@Pepperbeast:, first of all, please read WP:AGF. Secondly, can you explain to me why you believe removing an extraneous word from an image caption and making it consistent with the lead and the name of the linked article is vandalism? Why do you believe that the word has to be in the caption? noq (talk) 22:50, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

I never said it was vandalism. However, there is an almost continuous trickle of anti-Ahmadiyya editing in Wikipedia, and I'm very alert to anything that looks like distancing of Ahmadiyya from Islam. There is no real reason to remove the word Muslim from the Qadian article. PepperBeast (talk) 00:24, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

@Pepperbeast: You never said it was vandalism - just used a level 1 vandalism template on my talk page. The word is not used in the lead so why is it needed in the caption - the reason to remove it is consistency - you have not given a reason to keep it. The link with Islam is in the linked article - that article does not deem it necessary to use the word muslem in the article title so again, why needed in an image caption. These should be kept short and are not a place for detailed content. noq (talk) 08:58, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer newsletter June 2020

Hello Noq,

Your help can make a difference

NPP Sorting can be a great way to find pages needing new page patrolling that match your strengths and interests. Using ORES, it divides articles into topics such as Literature or Chemistry and on Geography. Take a look and see if you can find time to patrol a couple pages a day. With over 10,000 pages in the queue, the highest it's been since ACPERM, your help could really make a difference.

Google Adds New Languages to Google Translate

In late February, Google added 5 new languages to Google Translate: Kinyarwanda, Odia (Oriya), Tatar, Turkmen and Uyghur. This expands our ability to find and evaluate sources in those languages.

Discussions and Resources

• A discussion on handling new article creation by paid editors is ongoing at the Village Pump.
• Also at the Village Pump is a discussion about limiting participation at Articles for Deletion discussion.
• A proposed new speedy deletion criteria for certain kinds of redirects ended with no consensus.
• Also ending with no change was a proposal to change how we handle certain kinds of vector images.

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Please move Andrew Nash Gifford out of the draft space

Hi Noq--

Thanks for reviewing a recent article I put up. Can you please move it out of the draft space?

I believe it has sufficient citations and meets the guidelines.

The article title is: Andrew_Nash_Gifford

Thanks so much,

Niente21 (talk) 13:52, 18 June 2020 (UTC)Niente21

intraday strategy

hi you have removed my link .. but i have written a good post on intraday strategy with my experience and many of post already their on my blog about intraday strategy . so please tell me the reason for removing .. / if you consider its good and ok . then please publish my link it will help people . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krneeraj1 (talk • contribs) 16:45, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Ofala Onitsha - Kindly Restore

The previous editor stated:

{{AFC submission|d|reason|Suggest you merge content from here into the Ofala festival article noted, and then do a spinout|u=Eaghadiuno|ns=118|decliner=Hasteur|declinets=20200421213949|ts=20200113205010}} <!-- Do not remove this line! -->

You did the merge but where is the spinout?

These are two separate Festival, even though they are simply in origin, you continue to generalize Ofala Festival as Ofala Onitsha. It has been almost a year trying to explain that to you and just when it seems someone got it, you delete the page.

Ofala Festival is a generic name for a similar festival all over the east of Nigeria. It is akin to you saying Beer Festival should be the name of all Beer Festival worldwide. No, these types of festivals are unique in some areas and have their own identity. OFALA ONITSHA is a special type of OFALA FESTIVAL and it is a Nationally recognized festival in Nigeria. There are other Ofala Festivals in Nnewi, Obosi, Uhuru, etc. These are not Ofala Onitsha which has its own unique flavor, logo, its king and subjects, and more.

Please do understand that Ofala Onitsha is a Separate entity and deserves its own page. Kindly restore.

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The Wikipedia page Ofala Onitsha has been changed on 28 June 2020 by Noq, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ofala_Onitsha for the current revision.

To view this change, see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ofala_Onitsha&diff=next&oldid=964985343

For all changes since your last visit, see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ofala_Onitsha&diff=0&oldid=964985343

Eaghadiuno 04:03, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

@Eaghadiuno: The significant part of what the previous reviewer said was "SUBMISSION DECLINED" - They suggested merging content with the existing article on the festival that as you state is held in many places. You say this is different - why? Is it completely unrelated or basically the same with minor differences? Why should it have a separate article to all the other such festivals? The only claim to uniqueness is the claim to be firstnoq (talk) 10:08, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

@Noq: Thank you for your prompt response. Again, if you do take the time to read and compare, you will see significant differences, and what you have as Ofala Festival is actually Ofala ONITSHA festival. It is not exactly the same as in other areas as mentioned in the first paragraph Ofala_Festival. I will explain again using an example of a Jazz Festival. This does not describe New Orleans Jazz Festival or London Jazz Festival. Yes, they all play Jazz but they unique Musician, Location, flavors/style, etc. What Wikipedia is doing here is to generalize OFALA FESTIVAL as one broad Festival. No, it is not. Here are a few differences:

Ofala Onitsha:

1. Nationally Recognized By the Government

2. Celebrated exclusively in Onitsha

3. Celebrated By the kind of Onitsha: OBI NNAEMEKA ACHEBE

4. Has its own Identity, Iconograph, and more.

5. Celebrated at the Ime Obi (Unique Palace of the Obi of Onitsha) This is equivalent to Buckingham Palace for Onitsha people.

6. Celebrated every October. Other Ofala Festivals are not in October.

I hope I have explained enough to make you understand wholly and permit the spinout page as indicated by the previous editor. It has been one long year.

Eaghadiuno 14:23, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

@Eaghadiuno: I am still not seeing anything that stands out. To address some of your points specifically, The Ofala Festival article says they oocur in early October. Saying the Onitsha festival occurs in Onitsha adds nothing. Saying someone celebrates it does nothing to convince me it needs a standalone article. "Has its own identity, iconograph etc" says nothing, recognized by the government - how and is it the only one? Reading the Ofala Festival article covers most of what you say is unique - and did before your your addition to it. There is no other location mentioned in the main article and nothing there that contradicts anything you have put in your version. noq (talk) 15:32, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

@Noq: I listed at list 6 differences. The draft you deleted is unique to Onitsha. Your original Ofala Festival describes Onitsha style Ofala Festival. You have used it to generalize all Ofala Festivals.

Tell me, is Ofala Onitsha the same as Ofala in Nnewi, or Ofala in Obosi, etc? Completely different locations, different King, different styles of performing their Ofala. Yes, the location matters! It's the difference between Jazz Festival in London and the Jazz festival In Paris Or New Orleans. The style and flavor are different. As I mentioned, you have at least 6 differences I have listed. You absolutely want to keep fighting the obvious. Not sure why. Even the previous editor instructed a spinout. I have used the most basic examples using Jazz Festivals. Yet, you close your mind to these. Not sure what else you want. You are smart enough to spot the idea behind the request to identify Ofala Onitsha as a Unique and different TYPE of Ofala Festival. Added to it all the other differences listed, I more than think it qualifies for its own page. BTW, I have seen less on standalone pages within Wikipedia. Google Ofala Festival and you will see online, Onitsha Ofala Festival mostly. It does not represent Ofala Festivals elsewhere, period. Lastly, Only Onitsha Ofala Festival occurs in October. Others celebrate much later.

Tell me, what more do you need to make you guys approve Ofala Onitsha as its own page?

@Eaghadiuno: Show me where any of those places are mentioned in the Ofala Festival page? Onitsha is, but where else is? You are not compering like with like - how is the Onitsha festival different from the festival at [[Ofale Festival given that the only place they name in the article is Onitsha? The details in that article match your differences rather than contradict them. Where in that article does it say something that does not apply to the Onitsha festival? You are so convinced that it needs an article on its own that you are not seeing clearly that the existing article is mostly about that festival and always has been, while acknowledging that other festivals exist. I really cannot see where the style and flavour is different as nowhere else is talked about. Also, please read WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. noq (talk) 17:17, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

@Noq: The very first paragraph clear states it " The Ofala Festival is an annual ceremony practiced by Igbo people, particularly the indigenes of Onitsha, Umueri, Umuoji and other neighboring communities such as Aguleri, Nnewi and Ukpo in Dunukofia Local Government Area. "

The rest of your that Ofala Festival page simply references Ofala Onitsha. So you might as well change that page to Ofala Onitsha. Umueri, Umuoji, Aguleri, Nnewi, Ukpo are not Onitsha people. They have they own king or Obi, their custom and unique way of doing their Ofala Festival. It is not the same as Onitsha Ofala. The only commonality is that it is a Yam Festival. You made my point too, nowhere else is talked about on that page, so you do them a disservice by publishing that Onitsha Ofala and its procedures are the same at these places. Google Ofala Nnewi and you will see results for Nnewi. Completely different from Onitsha. The festival is held in December or January. https://www.nnewi.info/ofala-festival

@Eaghadiuno: So rather than create another article, expand the current article to point out the differences (with references) as well as similarities. This would be more useful to an encyclopaedia than duplicating most of an article just because the opening paragraph mentions some others. noq (talk) 18:01, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

@Noq: You completely miss the point and each time I point out your error in deleting the page, you immediately present a new argument. Please restore the page. It explains in details what Onitsha Ofala is all about and the peculiarities of it. Within Wikipedia, you have a page for Jazz Festivals and another for New Orleans Jazz, right? Accord us Africans the same privilege. I am not sure what your problem is in understanding simple things like this. Perhaps you wish to pass it to another Editor for review since it is clear you are hell-bent on rejection, even if it helps Wikipedia users. Do the spinout as instructed earlier and move along to other more important pages elsewhere.

@Eaghadiuno: I am trying to find ways to get the content you consider important into the encyclopaedia. You continually reject any of my compromise suggestions and blame me for that. Wikipedia is built on WP:consensus and not everyone will agree all details. The existing article is mostly about the festival you want to write about and mentions in passing others - without going into any detail. Adding another article about the same festival does not seem to be useful. If the existing article was developed to include details of all the other festivals of the same name showing similarities and differences I think it would be a useful addition to wikipedia. If that article was expanded to such a size that it got unwieldy then splitting the article into sub articles would make sense however, as it stands that is not the case. The article is substantially about the same festival so adding another article about it at this time does not make sense. noq (talk) 18:56, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

@Noq: You continuously refer to the Festival as the same Festival. The entire discussion has been to prove the difference between the them all. I have simplified it to the most basic, using simple examples. Yet you insist that OFALA FESTIVAL, a generic description of a Festival is the same as OFALA Onitsha. It is not the same.

Differences:

Ofala Onitsha:

1. Nationally Recognized By the Government

2. Celebrated exclusively in Onitsha

3. Celebrated led by the King of Onitsha: OBI NNAEMEKA ACHEBE

4. Has its own Identity, Iconograph, and more. which is peculiar to Onitsha

Ofala Onitsha Logo

5. Celebrated at the Ime Obi (Unique Palace of the Obi of Onitsha) This is equivalent to Buckingham Palace for Onitsha people.

6. Celebrated every October. Other Ofala Festivals are not in October.

7. Interpretation of the Ofala Onitsha by Onitsha is different

8. Methods and ceremonies for the celebration are different.

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Read below and create a page or merge. Below is uniquely Ofala Onitsha, which you have attributed to other kingdoms. I give up on explaining to you. Will petition Wikipedia directly. Thank you for your time.

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Ofala Onitsha Logo

Obi of Onitsha Emerging from seclusion: Ofala Onitsha 2018

Ofala Onitsha is the indigenous Ofala Festival held by indigenes of Onitsha, Nigeria. It is usually held in October and is the highpoint of the Onitsha ceremonial cycle. Although Ofala Festival is common to many Ibo tribes, Onitsha Ofala is rather unique since it is believed to be the first Ofala in the Igbo tribe.

The Celebration

Onitsha Ofala festival revolves around the Obi of Onitsha and is an occasion for the monarch to fulfill certain obligations which include a celebration by the monarch and his subjects of the monarch’s annual emergence from seclusion, is incommunicado and undergoes spiritual cleansing for the good of the Onitsha community. Thereafter, the obi emerges from seclusion and blesses his subjects whilst praying for the community.

Onitsha Indigenes believe that the Ofala Onitsha is a reenactment of the joy which the previous monarch shared with his subjects at the discovery that Yam, a staple Onitsha food, is non-toxic, and a valuable source of food. It is equally an opportunity for the monarch, following his seclusion to review his army and obtain the assurance of loyalty from his generals who are the Redcap chiefs (Ndichie). Given that in the past days, the monarch was rarely seen in public, the Ofala provided an opportunity for his subjects to catch a glimpse of him and to pay homage to the monarch. This practice continues to this day. The Ofala experience, which is a display of royal dances, tributes, parades, and music, runs over two days.

Experience

The first day of the Ofala Onitsha is called Iru Ofala. The Obi is the center of attention on this day and he comes out wearing his full regalia, including the popular colorful headgear, then parades the arena of his palace on three different occasions in full view of all present. He also dances to the beat of the war drums. The second day of Ofala Onitsha is called Azu Ofala involved the indigenes of Onitsha. These comprise of the various age-grade societies in their very colorful uniforms. Each society dances past the throne room, paying homage to the monarch.

The Ofala Onitsha has grown in popularity in terms of its social glamour and its intrinsic meaning for indigenes of Onitsha, attracting worldwide attention, including enjoying the benefit of partnerships with popular organizations and Institutions, which have helped greatly in highlighting and elevating Onitsha to the world.

Ofala Onitsha has been recognized as an asset to the Nigerian Tourism ecosystem that can eventually become a regional and global cultural event. The recent Onitsha Ofala Festival features an art exhibition, as well as a symposium on creativity involved with Ofala Onitsha.

Atoms & Eden - move to the draft

Dear Noq,

I have seen you action, moving Draft:Atoms_&_Eden into draft. You asked for more reference. I am ready to accommodate, but be specific: what references you need? Atoms & Eden is a simple page, it is mainly about the existence of the book, which can be confirmed through the references/data/info I have provided - a small, but proper encyclopedia article. I will add references, but tell me what.

Laszlo.makay (talk) 07:09, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

@Laszlo.makay: For a wikipedia page to exist it must the notability guidelines for books using WP:significant coverage in WP:reliable sources that are not connected with the book. Existence on its own is not enough to justify a page. The article here just has a link to the publishers web page on it. This is not independent. noq (talk) 11:53, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

@Noq: So the problem is the notability and independent sources. Thank you, understood. Laszlo.makay (talk) 12:40, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

@Noq: I have updated the draft article with both sources and info on notability and submitted for review. Laszlo.makay (talk) 22:44, 27 June 2020 (CET)

@Laszlo.makay: I would be surprised if tht would be expected. You need to show WP:significant coverage in WP:reliable sources that are independent of the subject. At the moment, none of the references are independent. I don't see any tht talk about the book that the article is supposed to be about. noq (talk) 20:54, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

@Noq: Those were just about the afterlife/effect of the book. I fully understand your point, but can you kindly help me with some special actions regarding a particular review from a reliable, independent source? I have added a review of Glenn Morrison (Associate Professor, School of Philosophy and Theology, The University of Notre Dame Australia) to the draft, published in a journal in 2013. I got the complete journal reference, but that journal is not available freely on the net. Consequently, I have written to Glenn Morrison and asked for the full review and a summary. Luckily, he provided both. I have heard that in such cases I can provide the email correspondence and the files (the actual complete review received from Glenn Morrison) to wikipedia. Can you help me how to do it? Laszlo.makay (talk) 18:21, 2 July 2020 (CET)

@Laszlo.makay: Having done some google searches, I am struggling to find anything that would meet WP:NBOOK notability. It may be time to just accept that this book will not make it at the moment. noq (talk) 16:46, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Proposed deletion tag on Junaid Shah

Hi, As you have placed a proposed deletion tag on Junaid Shah who died yesterday. I am creator of the article. I have tried to add most coverages from reliable sources. Also I believe it passes WP: GNG and also WP:THREE for notability. Kindly watch the article again and remove the tag. Thank You. — The Chunky urf Al Kashmiri ^{(Speak🗣️ or Write✍️)} 08:33, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

I've been moved

I've been moved to tell you use of twinkle to move a four year old article to draftspace and posting a message on a currently blocked user to say on their talk page: An article you recently created, BR Standard Class 6 72010 Hengist ... I'm moved it to draft space.... Given the discussion Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/LMS Ivatt Class 2 2-6-2T 41241 immediately aobve it which is a very similar use-case the best practice is to wait for that discussion to resolve before taking the above action. As it is your move to draftspace (where it would be deleted in 6 months) looks like an attempt to circumvent deletion discussion. As a proud EBCDIC user per your talk page your talents might be better employed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Code page 875 than inappropriate abuse of twinkle. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 18:12, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

I did not visit the creating users page and the page I moved was not listed for discussion so hard to see how that can be interpreted as trying to circumvent a deletion discussion. I did tag the current active editor of the Hengist page to let them know that the page had been moved. As that is currently being actively edited, there is a hope that it will be in a fit state within the 6 months. As for the EBCDIC code page discussion, there does not seem to be any good reason for an encyclopaedia to have articles on every codepage. noq (talk) 18:49, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

In other words in my view you were not using due dilligence and not owning the fact you are not using due dilligence. Placing Recently created on the creating users talk page was a plain lie. Think about it. Thankyou.Djm-leighpark (talk) 19:44, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Guidance

Hello Noq, can you please help guide me in the proper direction to go with these biography pages? It is not that I am trying to go against any Wikipedia rules and guidelines, I'm just trying to help connect the historical pieces of the university together by creating the past president biography pages. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akscripter (talk • contribs) 13:49, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

References

Thanks for your comment. This is my first time at putting in a reference and I didn't find the Wikipedia help very helpful. I did try to follow the guidance here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Referencing_for_beginners

If you can help with any preferred layout, it would be gratefully received

Ian

Declined Prods

I have declined your proposed deletions, because there is an objection on the talk page, I think the creator was unaware they could remove the prod. Which isn't a reason for deletion. The academics have plausible notability under WP:NPROF criteria 6 so they are not in my view uncontroversial. Hope you understand. Cheers PainProf (talk) 01:03, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

August 2020

Hey you just deleted my editions on page Lahore. I had quoted the references from reliable and famous websites from the country. Kindly redo that and don't delete it again. If you need more sources, I'll add them too. But please don't delete my editions. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maverick8017 (talk • contribs) 20:51, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Why has my edit been undone?

In AI companies of India page, I've provided verified reference links too to what I've added. Why has it been removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Editingwork8 (talk • contribs) 10:31, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

@Editingwork8: As I said in the edit summary. It does not have its own article on English Wikipedia. List articles require that the entries are WP:notable and this is usually determined by if they already have their own article. See WP:WTAF. noq (talk) 10:39, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

@noq Ok. So, can I create a Wikipedia page on it? What does it take to get a company page like this accepted on Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Editingwork8 (talk • contribs) 10:43, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

@Editingwork8: See my response to your query on Wikipedia:Teahouse. noq (talk) 10:46, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Includes the latest news regarding investments in Infibeam Avenues Limited

Hello, this is with regards to the investment section being removed on Infibeam wiki. Considering the recent investments in the company and its role in the company's growth, we intend to publish the said information on wiki. Now we see that it is being removed as per the guidelines set. Why dont you help us out in how we can publish the information related to the significant investments in the company on wiki? — Preceding unsigned comment added by RdpEdit (talk • contribs) 14:04, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

@RdpEdit:Who is "we"? noq (talk) 15:38, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

@Noq: Mr. Ravi Omprakash Agrawal's team

So you want to promote your employer on the page. This is against Wikipedia policy and is not allowed. Your wish to promote your employer is not something that helps this project and is neither wanted or required. noq (talk) 09:13, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Tristan Farnon (character)

Sorry, I reverted your move, and I don't thing that was the correct thing to do. I've only created a few articles and that has not happened before, so I didn't realise that what you did was a normal part of the process. I'm not going to try and 'unrevert' it myself, in case I mess things up further (I've never reverted a revert of a move). That article exists, for the most part, under the title 'Brian Sinclair', and has done for around 15 years. Someone has suddenly marked it for discussion for deletions (along with the 'Donald Sinclair' entry), and I'm trying to save the information in these entries as I think they will be of interest to people - particularly as the new series being shown now will introduce the characters to a new generation. Once again, sorry for the inappropriate revert. PRL42 (talk) 17:57, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

The Killy

Please move the Killy Literaturlxikon back to article space. This is a notable lexicon. Just call for references if you really tink it doesn't stand for itself. - It's linked from a DYK nomination, DYK? ... and articles, where its entries serve as a reference. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:41, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Vandalism

Why are you editing people's user talk pages without them knowing Semikanacty (talk) 08:44, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

@Semikanacty: Which specific notification are you complaining about? How do I let them know I am changing the page used to notify people about things? noq (talk) 08:49, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Shut up me mind your own business Semikanacty (talk) 08:50, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Biased article misinformation needed correction

I don't want to the write the same thing again but I think their is a strong sense of biased on Meitei people for Manipuri cuisine as Meitei are not the only Manipuri in the state of Manipur. I was in the process of adding reliable sources for Manipuri cuisine or kindly answer the queestion on talk page do Manipuri mean Meitei only.Luwanglinux (talk) 17:21, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

@Luwanglinux:This is not the place to right great wrongs. You need to find the sources first rather than keeping adding the same unsourced things back in. noq (talk) 17:38, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

I did added resource but help me some citation detail are missing,thank youLuwanglinux (talk) 17:45, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Abhirami (Actress_)

• Please point out with clarity that what edits made you so unfair by undone it.You are not willing for the improvement of that article.Why?This is not a platform for personal likes hauhh?????Riya Iyer S Menon (talk) 11:05, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

@Riya Iyer S Menon:Please you point out with clairty the WP:reliable sources that back up the information you are repeatedly adding. The other changes you are making are not improving the article. References should by presented in the body of the article rather than the lead. The lead should be a summary of the article and only cover the major facts. There is no need and add every detail there. Please read the articles linked to in the Welcome section on your talk page for information on what should and should not be done while editing. You should also add edit summaries to your edits to explain to other editors why you are making the change. If you revert another editors changes, you should explain clearly why - see my edit summaries in the article history while reverting you. Wikipedia is built on consensus rather than constantly trying to push your own view onto an article. See also WP:BRD about what to do if you disagree with an editor who reverts your edit - that is rather than revert theirs, go the the article talk page and explain why you believe the change is beneficial to the article and try to get consensus from other editors for the change. Without consensus, you are WP:edit warring. noq (talk) 11:19, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

A cheeseburger for you!

nice revert on that article about the lady who writes articles about sending isis to group therapy. i was going to make it myself but i missed the shot jp×g 10:00, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cool_a123?markasread=202539922&markasreadwiki=enwiki#Proposed_deletion_of_2021_Los_Angeles_Dodgers_season

I wouldn't delete this page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cool a123 (talk • contribs) 09:27, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Need Help give me time to create the page with reliable sources

I don't know why those editor try to merge my article even though I wanted to correct the mistakes created in article Puya (Meitei texts) as they frequently revert it.So I decided to create a new article.Puya is not a single book nor it is a religious book everything written by Meitei Maichou are called puya.Kindly give me the right to protect truth! Kindly check this "Nongsamei puya" it is one among the many puyas and it is not a religious bookLuwanglinux (talk) 15:05, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

@Luwanglinux: As I previously wrote on your talk page, you need to stop trying to fight against other editors to get your point of view across. Wikipedia works on consensus and following the guidelines that have developed over many years. Rather than repeatedly trying to force your view on an article or create your own copy to express your view, you should follow those guidelines. If your changes are being reverted, do not just put them back and hope they will not be noticed, but follow WP:BRD and discuss the change you want on the article talk page. This will allow you to make your point and try to gain a consensus on the way forward. You will need to be able to provide WP:reliable sources to back up your view or you will have difficulty convincing anyone. Take a break from actively editing and take the time to read the policies and guidelines on the welcome section at the top of your talk page. They will help you to understand what other editors are looking for. You can also use the articles for creation process to create draft articles and have them reviewed by experienced editors who can guide you where they fall short of the requirements. Take the time to do that and editing wikipedia will be a less frustrating experience noq (talk) 15:31, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Can this be the reliable source for original name of Manipur is Kangleipak claim

Original name of Manipur is Kangleipak,the Indian state Manipur(Kangleipak) and and a village in Orissa(Odisha) "Manipur" have different story in history and myth.The term "Manipur" for the Indian State Manipur(Kangleipak) is coined only after late 17th century AD after Pamheiba accepted vaishnavism and Pamheiba abolish all native name and tradition.ꯂꯨꯋꯥꯡ (ꯆꯥ) 13:05, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Age

How old are you Lithamile Socenywa (talk) 14:05, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

5 editors vs 1

rules are seem to be made for favouritism,ignoring all facts I put..ahh I am so done with it.I will not come back again to this Meitei people article even though I am a Meitei rules are made for some I guess.bye — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luwanglinux (talk • contribs) 14:18, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Trying to bulldoze changes against consensus will not work. Wikipedia relies on WP:CONSENSUS and WP:reliable sources rather the WP:The Truth. noq (talk) 14:21, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Hand Football

Hi can you make an edit for Hand Football I didn’t create it Daniel Hand Football Team created it. Zane E Gardner (talk) 13:28, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

@Zane E Gardner: I do not understand what you are asking for here. The article you created still exists at Draft:Hand Football where you can edit it to try to show it meets the WP:GNG or WP:NSPORT notability criteria. You will need to find WP:reliable sources that give it WP:significant coverage and include those in the article. When you think that it is in a state that meets the notability criteria, click on the button on the page to "submit your draft for review". This will alert more experienced editors to review the article and if it does meet the criteria it will be moved into the main encyclopaedia pages. If it does not, they will explain why it is not ready so that you can address the problems and try again. noq (talk) 15:17, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Ok thanks for not deleting it I didn’t create the game and it’s vary popular Zane E Gardner (talk) 16:23, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Zane_E_Gardner Is this a good edit for the game? Zane E Gardner (talk) 16:54, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

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Toyosi Phillips

If for some bizarre reason this is declined please open a second AFD & do let me know. Celestina007 (talk) 00:05, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Articles creation for Amazon best sellers

I also have a question. Does being an amazon best selling author makes a writer notable enough to be on Wikipedia? Please consider the fact that the person in question is from a developing / under developed country.. Thank you Obiorah Precious Oby (talk) 06:54, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

@Obiorah Precious Oby: If there has been a significant change since the deletion debate that decided that the article should be deleted, then use the article talk page to make the point. Make sure that you include references that the reviewing administrator can look at to make their decision on whether it should be deleted again or not. noq (talk) 13:44, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Manipur question =

haha are you a British Indian can I ask you a question I can provide the line from e pao.net for the manipur gazette but will you revert it again?ꯂꯨꯋꯥꯡ (ꯆꯥ) 15:20, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

You need to provide a reference that says that the Manipur gazette had a notification about the constitution act on the date in the article. If it does not do that, it is of no use. noq (talk) 15:28, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Ok pliz check paragraph 8 of thisAccording to Manipur State Gazette Notification of dated 2 January, 1947, His Highness, the Maharajah of Manipur was pleased to enact the Manipur State Constitution Act (MSCA), 1947 on 1 January, 1947, The price of the Gazette was Rs. 1 (one rupee) only per copy to be head of the State Library , Imphal , L.G. Singh , Supdt State Press epao journal http://e-pao.net/epSubPageExtractor.asp?src=education.Human_Rights_Legal.Manipur_State_Constitution_Act_1947_Part_1_By_Khomdon_Lisam I provide the state archive link to prove that Manipur State Gazette do exist.

noq seriously hahaha English wikipedia not accepting english word lolꯂꯨꯋꯥꯡ (ꯆꯥ) 15:49, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

May I know why

Hi May I know why you are interested in deleting the articles Please tell me where I am wrong so I can correct it Nippon 725 (talk) 20:53, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

@Nippon 725: That is explained on your talk page. The pages you are creating do not show WP:notability with independent WP:reliable sources. See the links on the welcome message I left on your talk page. The paper mill article was moved twice to draft space so it could be worked on without being proposed for deletion but you kept recreating it. As no WP:significant coverage could be found using google, I have put it up for deletion. You may argue why it should be retained on the deletion discussion page, but you will need to show that it meets notability guidelines and provide WP:reliable sources to verify that. If you cannot do that, that is an indication that the article should not be on wikipedia. noq (talk) 21:31, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Sorry I didnt read previous notifications Thank tou Nippon 725 (talk) 22:37, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi I have translated the louisenthal page from German So it is not my mistake Please consider it Thank you Nippon 725 (talk) 16:03, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi I have updated the hybrid paper polymer banknote article please check it waiting for soonest reply Thank you Nippon 725 (talk) 18:01, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

So you can upload it Nippon 725 (talk) 18:09, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

I see you have submitted it for review. Someone will review it and either move it to main space or if it still needs work, will let you know what needs doing. Better if that is left to someone else.noq (talk) 18:54, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Aleisha

Hello, I'm User:SomeBodyAnyBody05. You recently briskly nominated the page aleisha allen that was deleted two years prior that doesn't fall under Deletion policy G4. THe person of intrest seems pretty notable and doesn't fail WP:NACTOR. The actress had significant roles in televison shows and movies such as Are We There yet and and 130 episodes of Blue's clues as a main character between 1996 and 2004. She is also a registered pathologist. This was not fair because the admins aggresively attack this newly made article even though the admins on RFD encourage article creation. see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2020_November_1#Aleisha_Allen for details. If you want me to find more sources fine, but it's unproductive to speedy nom that quickly without a revised discussion. I want this page undeleted please. Cheers, ₛₒₘₑBₒdyₐₙyBₒdy₀₅ (talk) 12:59, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

I do not have the ability to undelete or delete anything. I flagged it as a recreated article but an administrator (who can see the old version) reviewed it and then deleted it. G4 speedy exists so that we do not have to run multiple AFDs on the same article. noq (talk) 16:11, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

@User:Noq Well since your'e here would you mind voting on the deletion dicussion I've made to overturn the admin's descision? I've gathered evidence for why it shouldn't have been deleted. the admin (User:TomStar81) claimed the actress had no importance but she's passes the guidelines of WP:NACTOR and I had gather reliable coverage and sources on the actress to verify the what I wrote. I had no idea what the previous version looked like and the problem may have been a lack of sources for the 2018 version of the article. Cheers, ₛₒₘₑBₒdyₐₙyBₒdy₀₅ (talk) 16:25, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Disruptive Editor.

Hi Noq, this editor seems to be appearing in pushing POV and/or disruptive edits, messing up pages again and again even after several warnings. Kindly take a look into the matter. Thanks. --bloodofruler (talk) 05:47, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

All of you rather than WP:edit war on my talk page, go to WP:DRR and request dispute resolution. noq (talk) 11:56, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Changing my discussions.

Hi Noq, please watch editing history on your own Talk Page as I was the first one to raise a concern and the vandalising user changed my name tag with his/her. Check Jadeja and Abhira tribe pages as well. This user Bloodofruler has messed up many pages and has got several warnings again and again repeatedly. Thanks. --HinduKshatrana (talk) 12:39, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

All of you rather than WP:edit war on my talk page, go to WP:DRR and request dispute resolution. noq (talk) 13:11, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Deleted Abhira tribe origin

Hi Noq,Please check Abhira tribe editing history,I written about Abhira tribe Origin with source, this user HinduKshatrana Deleted that Many times,He has messed up many pages and has got several warnings again and again repeatedly. Thanks. -- Bloodofruler (talk) 13:05, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

All of you rather than WP:edit war on my talk page, go to WP:DRR and request dispute resolution. noq (talk) 13:11, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

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Treason

Thank you for disputing my changes in a civil manner, and especially for not leaving a barrage of talk page templates as some editors tend to do. 73.71.251.64 (talk) 08:18, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

RedWarn

Hi Noq, do you need any help getting RedWarn set up? If so, feel free to let me know. Ed talk! 19:08, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

@Ed6767:. Hi Ed, yes please. I'm not seeing the toolbar and the setup has not run. Not sure if there is any conflict with something else. noq (talk) 19:46, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Can you tell me what browser you're using and ensure you have JavaScript enabled? (make sure you allow sources from redwarn.toolforge.org enabled if you have cross-origin blocker) Ed talk! 19:48, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Great, to access the first time setup please open More Options > RedWarn preferences > Scroll to the bottom and click "RESET REDWARN" and this should bring it up for you :) Ed talk! 19:54, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Allowiing JS from the toolforge.org domain seems to have sorted it - thank you. noq (talk) 19:56, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Any time, thanks for choosing RedWarn :) Ed talk! 19:59, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Userpage vandalism revert

Hi, I noticed an edit on your userpage that did not look constructive, so I reverted it, just so you know. My revert can be found here: [1]. Thanks, P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 00:24, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Man on the Moon III

Hello,

I'm Lowryder71, and I come in peace. I was one of the users who helped create the page for Kid Cudi's upcoming album Man on the Moon III: The Chosen today, which was fully announced today by the artist and also had its release date, cover, and tracklist drop as well, and is scheduled to be released this Friday. I am here because I noticed that you deleted the page due to it not meeting the site's notability guidelines for albums. I would like to add that Man on the Moon III has been a highly anticipated project from Cudi for a long time, specifically for around the last 10 years, and Cudi had first announced the project's existence going back to around 2013. If it's OK for me to ask you this question, why and how did the album's page not meet such guidelines? I would like to know so that when I create pages for albums or music in the future, I can do so in a way that meets all guidelines and is up to standard with a typical page on the site.

Thanks, and I look forward to getting back to you. Let's work together on this! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lowryder71 (talk • contribs) 22:07, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Please read WP:NALBUM. It was not deleted but redirected to the artist as recommended there for any album that does not show it meets the guidelines. The article did not contain any independent WP:reliable sources showing WP:significant coverage as required by the WP:General notability guidelines. If you cannot find any references that meet those guidelines then the album is not eligible for an article. noq (talk) 22:15, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

New Page Patrol December Newsletter

Hello Noq,

Year in review

It has been a productive year for New Page Patrol as we've roughly cut the size of the New Page Patrol queue in half this year. We have been fortunate to have a lot of great work done by Rosguill who was the reviewer of the most pages and redirects this past year. Thanks and credit go to JTtheOG and Onel5969 who join Rosguill in repeating in the top 10 from last year. Thanks to John B123, Hughesdarren, and Mccapra who all got the NPR permission this year and joined the top 10. Also new to the top ten is DannyS712 bot III, programmed by DannyS712 which has helped to dramatically reduce the number of redirects that have needed human patrolling by patrolling certain types of redirects (e.g. for differences in accents) and by also patrolling editors who are on on the redirect whitelist.

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8	Mccapra (talk)	4,918	Patrol Page Curation
9	Hughesdarren (talk)	4,520	Patrol Page Curation
10	Utopes (talk)	3,958	Patrol Page Curation

Reviewer of the Year

John B123 has been named reviewer of the year for 2020. John has held the permission for just over 6 months and in that time has helped cut into the queue by reviewing more than 18,000 articles. His talk page shows his efforts to communicate with users, upholding NPP's goal of nurturing new users and quality over quantity.

NPP Technical Achievement Award

As a special recognition and thank you DannyS712 has been awarded the first NPP Technical Achievement Award. His work programming the bot has helped us patrol redirects tremendously - more than 60,000 redirects this past year. This has been a large contribution to New Page Patrol and definitely is worthy of recognition.

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Need a Guideline

Hello Noq, I am Hardcore Legend Mic Fic Foley recently u post a message on my Talk page about Waism Akram image i want to tell u that the image of Akram from 2010 looks better and Waism looks better than that In current photo,Also why cant we use Photos of Few years back ????? Please Guide me if i am wrong But its my request to U Mate Please let me upload Wasim old photo in Infobox he looks better in that despite clearity and all issues. Please guide me If i am wrong i will be delighted Hardcore Legend Mic Foley (talk) 13:22, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

@Hardcore Legend Mic Foley:Your assertion that "he looks better" does not make it appropriate. There is nothing wrong with the older image. You need to get a WP:consensus on the article talk page to change it to the younger one. The current one is a better representation on him. noq (talk) 13:26, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

U are Senior Editor Noq If u will allow Me then there wont be Much difficulty also did we need consensus for even installing Image of Subject ??? In many pages we have pics of subject from 20 years back Why cant we have photo of Bit younger Wasim ☺️☺️☺️ ??? Please have a consensus with me Sir and allow me to upload his younger photo of 2010 in infobox. Hardcore Legend Mic Foley (talk) 13:36, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Pause the Speedy deletion of page titled 'Khushali Kumar' & the Talk section

Hi Noq,

Wanted to understand why has the page 'Khushali Kumar' and even the 'Talk' page for the same marked for speedy deletion? We would like to resolve any impending issues and rectify the old ones and restart the page for the entity mentioned earlier. We have credible and reliable links to support the artist.

103.245.105.86 (talk) 11:01, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Talk pages without articles are routinely deleted. As the article is locked from being created, you will need to use the WP:AFC process to create a draft and get it reviewed by an administrator before it can be created. noq (talk) 11:35, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! Will check it out. 103.245.105.86 (talk) 12:54, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Why

If I am adding economic information of Medininagar then what is your problem. Weareme234 (talk) 11:46, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Because the content you are adding is either unsourced or poorly sourced. A quick look at your talk page shows that you have been told about this many times but you continue to do it and show no signs of slowing down. This is disruptive and wastes the time of many other editors. Please read WP:Five pillars to understand what is required in wikipedia articles. noq (talk) 14:35, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

2020–21 SC Cambuur season tagged for speedy deletion

Thank you for your efforts in patrolling new pages. I wanted to let you know that I have applied a speedy deletion tag to the article 2020–21 SC Cambuur season, which you proposed for deletion, because I believe it meets one or more of the criteria for speedy deletion. In cases where it applies, speedy deletion is preferable to proposed deletion; in the future, please tag blatantly inappropriate pages for speedy deletion first if they meet the criteria. I have left the {{prod}} tag in place, so that if speedy deletion is rejected, your proposed deletion will remain in place. Thanks! JJP...MASTER!_{[talk to] JJP... master?} 22:24, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gopalganj,_Bihar#Notable_People

i had added Shambhu Sharan Shrivastava in the section above; i believe you removed it citing "no evidence of connection to gopalganj"

i'm related to the family, and happen to know for a fact that Dr Shambhu Sharan Shrivastava is from Gopalganj. not sure if there is much evidence for this on the internet though. the best online evidence i can offer is his facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/shambhusaran.shrivastava.5

which mentions schooling in gopalganj

what would you suggest in this case?

similar concern with: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gopalganj_district,_India#Notable_People

where you reverted a very similar edit

Ks10008 (talk) 12:52, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

You need a WP:reliable source that states that. Facebook is not reliable. The source should be added to the [[Shambhu Sharan Shrivastava]] article. noq (talk) 13:50, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Havering

Why did you revert the merge of the Havering colleges? They are both defunct institutions now merged into one called Havering Colleges. On top of that I did a whole cleanup with proper wiki formatting and removed some unsourced ad-like content. Explain please. --Jf81 (talk) 12:41, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Your new version has no sources that back up the merger. Even if they can be found, there is no need to remove the older institutions. You need to followed the WP:proposed merger process if you feel they should be merged together. noq (talk) 12:43, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

See also New City College which talks of the acquisition of the individual institutions not a merged one. noq (talk) 12:45, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

I will add additional sources if I have to. I agree older institutions don't necessarily need to be deleted if it's a good article, however take a look at both Havering College of Further and Higher Education and Havering Sixth Form College, they are not very encyclopaedic, lack relevant sources (hence why I removed some in the merge), and don't have enough information to justify them being separate now that the institutions are merged. That's why there's no need to keep them. Frankly both articles are not of optimal quality; I'm willing to vastly improve the merged Havering Colleges further to bring it up to a better standard. --Jf81 (talk) 13:28, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Why create a new article at all? If they should be merged, why not merge to New City College which is the overall group? You have yet to show the independent existence of a merged Havering Colleges. noq (talk) 13:44, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

I see where you're coming from. The reason I did not merge to New City College is because as per this source the Havering Colleges retain their own identities, and on the institution's website they are not called a "Campus" like the others are. Secondly unlike the others, it still has its own website as well (www.havering.ac.uk), so I thought as far I understand it could qualify being its own article, although I wouldn't object to it being merged to New City College. --Jf81 (talk) 14:32, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

AbdullahIndian

Thanks for your reversions of the above editor - I'm sure you are right about the sock puppetry - I have been following their edits since User:Weareme234
Please see User:Arjayay/W sock for a rough draft of the details I have so far.
Please also see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Weareme234/Archive for other information - this was poorly presented as I was in the midst of moving house at the time
Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 21:56, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Spalding Athletic Library (2) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Spalding_Athletic_Library_(2)

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I understand

My dear Noq, I saw your message in my talk page. No problem. But you have to wait. If I have made an edit, then if it is not good, so it may be indicates for me that it should be more nice. But for that you should wait for me. Thank You - Quetterry (talk) 10:01, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

New Edit

My dear Noq, I have made huge edits onJamshedpur's Demographics. Please do not revert it, if it is poorly written, so once again please don't revert and instead of that you can correct it. Please. Thank You - Quetterry {talk) 10:40, 19 January 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quetterry (talk • contribs)

Kanbar

Hi - I've added a source to explain that Kanbar Animation is the "animation banner" of Kanbar Entertainment. The former is simply a division of the latter, much like how Walt Disney Animation Studios is a division of Walt Disney Studios or how DreamWorks Animation was once a division of DreamWorks Pictures. Sorry this wasn't clear initially. --Jpcase (talk) 16:33, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Talk:Cycas Hospitality

I have added a suggestion on the talk page of this article, which you rightly tagged in May 2019. It read like a PR release and was mainly the work of one editor, who seemed to edit little else on this site. It has since been greatly neutralised. I think without its history, the article in its present incarnation now would not get tagged. Since you tagged it, would you have a look and see if it now meets Wikipedia's standards? JMcC (talk) 12:05, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Jamshedpur

It looks like that User:Quetterry had been doing mass changes to Jamshedpur and other users have raised concerns. Unfortunately, I haven't kept a an eye on that article since I last made an edit to update the climate table with sources. To avoid any confusion, I have added back the climate table for Jamshedpur that was originally added in this edit as I have checked it, verified that the data is sourced, and that the parameters are properly sorted. I hope that my edits did not confuse anyone of you as I was unsure of whether to revert user:quetterry's edits or wait and see. It was chaotic seeing the page being subject to many changes in such a short time, especially given that climate data on Indian cities are easily vandalised if they are edits aren't scrutinised. Thanks. Ssbbplayer (talk) 21:33, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Our mutual friend

Hi Noq - It looks like "our mutual friend" has returned as Abdullah Ahsan Mumtaz - I've reported to WP:AIV but they may not believe it without an WP:SPI. Could I ask you to add their edits to your watchlist ? - Thanks - Arjayay (talk) 17:16, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

In computing, keys are unique identifiers

Hi Noq, I can only assume that you are not a computer scientist, since you reverted the correction that I made about "key", that clarifies that a keys are unique identifiers. (My PhD is in computer science, and I've been working in the field for 20+ years.) I appreciate your efforts to help wikipedia, but you erred in reverting my change. Database theory defines several kinds of keys, including primary keys, super keys, candidate keys, composite keys, alternate keys, foreign keys. But ALL of them are unique row identifiers. To learn more, I suggest reading a book on relational database theory or doing a search: https://www.google.com/search?q=definition+database+key In fact, if you do that search, the infobox that google provides at the top of the page already explains that a key is a unique identifier. I hope that helps to clarify. Thanks! -- DBooth (talk) 20:48, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

As the text clearly includes "sort" keys then there is no unique constraint. Or do you never need to sort entries (like surname, country, etc) that are not unique? noq (talk) 11:25, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, but that's just plain wrong. This is a disambiguation page for "key" -- NOT "sort key". It correctly (though somewhat misleadingly) says that a key is (my emphasis) "USED to sort or retrieve records". Indeed, sorting is a very common USE of a key. But the main and most fundamental use of a key is to UNIQUELY identify a record. Since you seem unwilling to look this stuff up yourself, I went to the trouble of grabbing a couple of standard computer science textbooks from my shelf, for your benefit. The first one is Principles of Database System, by Jeffery D. Ullman, professor emeritus at Stanford University. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Ullman (If you've studied computer science, I'm sure you know of him.) Page 13 states: "An attribute or set of attributes whose values uniquely identify each entity in an entity set is called a key." I've even taken a photo of the page for you: https://ibb.co/pd8GCtp . The second book I had readily on hand was Fundamentals of Database Systems, by Elmasri and Navathe. Page 43 states (their emphasis): "An important constraint on the entities of an entity type is the key or uniqueness constraint on attributes." Page 141 defines "key" more technically: "A key K of a relation schema R is a superkey of R with the additional property that removing any attribute A from K leaves a set of attributes K' that is not a superkey of R". And surely you must know that a superkey UNIQUELY identifies an entity. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superkey By the way, there is a wonderful saying in computer science: "The key, the whole key, and nothing but the key, so help me Codd". This saying is obviously a play on the oath that one states when making sworn testimony https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sworn_testimony , but it is used as a clever mnemonic to help people remember the differences between first, second and third normal forms in relational database design. https://www.relationaldbdesign.com/database-analysis/module4/codds-normalization-basis.php E. F. Codd is the father of relational database theory. And rest assured, the word "key" in that saying means UNIQUE key. Unique identification is the whole point of a key. Again, thank you for your efforts to improve wikipedia. But please, next time do your homework before repeatedly reverting changes by someone who is knowledgeable about a subject and has gone to the effort improve an article for everyone else's benefit. It may have taken you only 30 seconds to revert my changes, but it has taken me a couple of HOURS to gather and spoon-feed you the evidence to back up my edit, only because you did not bother to look it up yourself. -- DBooth (talk) 02:25, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Reversions

Hey there, I notice you reverted several of my recent edits as unsourced.

I could understand the rationale if the same standard was applied to all content in this article, but it's not. None of the info in the members/past members infobox is sourced. None of the other information in the collabs or videos sections is sourced. I don't get why my edits are being treated differently to the other material that appears in the same sections of this article. 49.192.91.205 (talk) 04:07, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Does that mean that changing one unsourced claim for another is an improvement just because you believe your version better? If your's is better, then you should be able to provide a source and actually improve the article rather than merely change it to match your beliefs. noq (talk) 11:08, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

"Changing one unsourced claim for another"? I am not sure what you're talking about here. What is the claim that you believe I "changed for another"? 49.192.91.205 (talk) 13:21, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, you did not change one for another. But adding increasing the unsourced content does not improve the article either. noq (talk) 14:31, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

So is it normal Wiki practice to delete new edits that match the standard of the existing content, instead of just asking for sourcing? This seems like a needlessly hostile approach. As a would-be editor it's not exactly encouraging to have my work trashed merely for following the same standard that has been accepted up till now. 49.192.91.205 (talk) 22:52, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Anything that is not sourced can be challenged and yes, reverting the addition of new unsourced edits is fairly standard. The idea is not to add more substandard information to an already substandard article. I'm sorry you find this discouraging and I hope you will stick around and help to improve wikipedia. noq (talk) 23:22, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Okay, I went looking through policies trying to get a better idea of how are things are supposed to work here and I honestly don't understand how this attitude fits in with policies like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Please_do_not_bite_the_newcomers#How_to_avoid_being_a_%22biter%22 "Don't Remove, Improve. If something doesn't meet Wikipedia's standards try to fix the problem rather than just remove what's broken. (Nothing stops new contributors from coming back like having all their hard work end up in the bit bucket)"

That seems like a much better way to handle things. And if there's a systemic problem with the article (and I guess with just about every other band article here...?) surely it's better to address it systemically than picking on one editor and leaving the rest of the problem untouched.

Also... you know the "I'm sorry you feel that way" formulation is so famous as a non-apology it has its own Wiki page, right? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-apology_apology 49.192.91.205 (talk) 04:08, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

If tru.bet is not a notable example then how is degens,

Would like to you to explain how tru.bet is not a notable example but degens and smarkets is? Have you even done the research? Highly doubt it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.7.159.69 (talk) 21:49, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Need

Is there need of a special geography and economy article of Patna - User:ElectrouserElectrouser 10:45, 19 February 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Electrouser (talk • contribs)

Contact

Hi Noq
I see you have not enabled other users to e-mail you - I totally understand this, and, as stated on my User and User-talk pages. I believe most conversations should be on the record.
However, I would like to discuss a specific sock-puppet, without revealing things that would help them evade future detection.
If you could, temporarily, activate your e-mail, drop me a one-word e-mail, and then de-activate it, it would be appreciated. If not, I fully understand.
Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 21:06, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Yasak Elma (2)

Here are 2 proofs of the existence of the Yasak Elma in 2007: , ! --Kahrolsun İzolasyonizm (talk) 14:12, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Yasak Elma

Look, brother, there was another TV series called Yasak Elma 14 years ago. Even though I explained that to you item by item, you are lying to me saying “there is no such series”. If you look at the sources I have shown, you will realize that there is another directory with the same name. That (2007) Yasak Elma is not recognized simply because it has no doctrinal value. --Kahrolsun İzolasyonizm (talk) 14:12, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

I did not deny there was such a series - I pointed out that there was no article for it - as such there is no reason to disambiguate an article that is not ambiguous. It still is not ambiguous and even if an article for the earlier series existed, you have not shown that it is the primary topic. noq (talk) 16:45, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

What about my friend, are you kidding me? Why are you carrying the page? The facts are obvious. If the Forbidden Apple series in 2007 were a traitor or a lovemaking-kissing series, it would be very popular, so it would be as superior as Aşk-ı Memnu, as much as Ezel, as the Muhteşem Yüzyıl, as much as Yaprak Dökümü (it would be heard a lot). I have autism, I only give permission to work with the best qualified names (eg Neslihan Atagül, Hadise, Didem belly dancer, Sibel Can, etc.). Since social media was not very common at that time, nobody knew about the existence of the Forbidden Apple in 2007. Only 2-3 people knew about its existence. If the TV series had doctrinal value (-ism's) or Muslim genocides, it would have been one of the most popular TV series The Forbidden Apple in 2007. In addition, I cannot even explain the name of the series that I said that name is not necessary, I am very afraid of mentioning its name just because of the immoral person on social media. Be aware that such bad and ugly deeds will spread even more as long as they give credit to that woman with a voice called Demet Akalın. Thanks to the wealth of Demet Akalın, standing tall, if he was an ordinary person, he would not live now. Because his voice is very bad. --Kahrolsun İzolasyonizm (talk) 19:51, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Please read what I have written. The existence of a previous TV series is not relevant to the naming of this one. There is no article about the older series so there is no need to disambiguate the article name. Even if there was an article for the older series, it does not automatically follow that this series needs to be moved to another name. Your moving it again after it was disputed in disruptive and could get you blocked from editing - As I explained on your talk page, there are processes where you can discuss the proposed name change if you believe it necessary. However, without any other article it is unlikely that you will succeed. noq (talk) 11:41, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Getafe

Can you explain why you want to delete my article? I added more informations and records!! --Mishary94 (talk) 12:38, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Can you explain why you want to fork a perfectly good article into two smaller articles? The new one has been repeatedly deleted after eing nominated by several different editors - you appear to be ot of step with others. noq (talk) 12:53, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter September 2021

New Page Review queue September 2021

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Please join this discussion - there is increase in the abuse of Wikipedia and its processes by POV pushers, Paid Editors, and by holders of various user rights including Autopatrolled. Even our review systems themselves at AfC and NPR have been infiltrated. The good news is that detection is improving, but the downside is that it creates the need for a huge clean up - which of course adds to backlogs.

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A question...

Hi Noq!
Hope you are fine! ^_^
You reverted my edits on Shakib Al Hasan. I understood that describing someone as a poster boy does not make that a nickname. But was there any problem with the height?
Thanks! ➤ Tajwar – thesupermaN!^{【Click to Discuss】} 15:21, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

I missed that additional change. Looking at it I cannot tell if the website is a WP:reliable source for height data. They may have just lifted it from a previous version of the wikipedia article as padding. noq (talk) 18:00, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

@Noq: Yeah! You're right. ➤ Tajwar – thesupermaN!^{【Click to Discuss】} 05:35, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Thomas Cup Group Stage page

Hello, so today I'm just going to ask you for little advice or changes that must be done to that page because the Thomas Cup is starting tomorrow. I have attempted making the page twice unfortunately it seemed as it was duplicating the main page and so, both got deleted, but with the tournament starting tomorrow the page has to be created. So far there has not been anyone else willing to make an attempt in creating it in the past few days except me even after I did not touch the topic. So, I do want to recreate the page this time trying to get the page to seem not to duplicating the main page. The page has to be created for details of matches, so can you please tell some notes to prevent the page not seem to duplicate again. Jr2006Venz (talk) 17:24, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

I am not convinced that it needs a separate page. IT would make more sense to me if the main article gets too big to split it into two articles - one each for each cup - having both in one article seems odd. Better to have one page for each competition rather than a multitude of smaller pages. noq (talk) 10:30, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

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Deleted page?

I took a long time to make a page which with my chronic illnesses was hard but I made sure I followed the rules. You deleted it under speedy deletion so I didn't even get time to contest it!

So many streamers have Wikipedia pages. I read the rules and I don't see the issue creating a page?

I get a LOT of people asking information about myself and this would give them the information and save me a LOT of physical pain typing the same things over. I gave references so I don't see what I did wrong and why it was deleted? The page is about a Twitch streamer and blogger. I get about 60 people a month asking me questions that was answered on the wiki page that was now deleted. The page gave information and was helpful to people. I gave the link to some people and they found it helpful. Now it is gone.

There are many Twitch streamers with Wikipedia pages and they aren't all the top streamers so I don't understand why it was removed?

My blog is popular and I am a streamer as well.

There was no claims that weren't verifiable and I added the references as the previous mod asked.

You did speedy deletion which when I read the information page says "Credible claim of significance" which doesn't seem to relate to my page at all? The examples are things such as someone claiming to be a president or something like that. I never made any claims that were significant like that! I said the facts that are also listed as a source. A chronically ill twitch streamer isn't a significant claim.

Can you let me know why this was deleted as I followed the rules.

I checked the reasons for speedy deletion and I can't see why my page was even eligible for speedy deletion?

I was given no time to appeal this as by the time I came back the page was gone that I spent ages on and that the previous mod was fine with.

Took me such a long time to make the page and a previous mod just wanted references. You did speedy deletion after I added references after the previous mod said I needed references so I added them, then went to sleep, woke up to speedy deletion and my page already gone that took me so long.

I just don't understand why I can't have the page for a chronically ill Twitch streamer and blogger when others do?

I can add more information which I did when the last mod asked but then you deleted it anyway.

Page was SirenHellVixen

Heather (talk) 12:49, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

I am sorry that you are unhappy with your page being deleted but it did not meet the WP:notability criteria for an article in wikipedia. For an article to exist it most make a claim of WP:notability. Merely streaming on twitch is not that. To back up the claim you need to also show WP:significant coverage in WP:reliable sources - Wikipedia is not a free web host allowing you to create whatever you want. I did not delete your page but I did flag it for review by an administrator who subsequently felt it did meet the criteria for speedy deletion. In this case, there was no claim to significance - using a platform that anyone can use is not in itself significant. I am sorry for your personal circumstances but would suggest that facebook or twitter would be a more appropriate platform for your profile. noq (talk) 14:48, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

SPI involving 166.205.141.33

The IP's edits were reverted by you, me and another editor, and another IP made the same edits as well, I opened an SPI and was wondering if you had time to look at it in case I made any mistakes, Thanks, Zippy (talk) 16:28, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

The investigation link is here Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/166.205.141.33 Zippy (talk) 16:29, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

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Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on the talk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.

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Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.

In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

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Backlog status

After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators Buidhe and Zippybonzo, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to Dr vulpes who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.

Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the other 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at least one a day.

Coordination

MB and Novem Linguae have taken on some of the coordination tasks. Please let them know if you are interested in helping out. MPGuy2824 will be handling recognition, and will be retroactively awarding the annual barnstars that have not been issued for a few years.

Open letter to the WMF

The Page Curation software needs urgent attention. There are dozens of bug fixes and enhancements that are stalled (listed at Suggested improvements). We have written a letter to be sent to the WMF and we encourage as many patrollers as possible to sign it here. We are also in negotiation with the Board of Trustees to press for assistance. Better software will make the active reviewers we have more productive.

TIP - Reviewing by subject

Reviewers who prefer to patrol new pages by their most familiar subjects can do so from the regularly updated sorted topic list.

New reviewers

The NPP School is being underused. The learning curve for NPP is quite steep, but a detailed and easy-to-read tutorial exists, and the Curation Tool's many features are fully described and illustrated on the updated page here.

Reminders

• Consider staying informed on project issues by putting the project discussion page on your watchlist.
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NPP message

Hi Noq,

Invitation

For those who may have missed it in our last newsletter, here's a quick reminder to see the letter we have drafted, and if you support it, do please go ahead and sign it. If you already signed, thanks. Also, if you haven't noticed, the backlog has been trending up lately; all reviews are greatly appreciated.

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October 2022 New Pages Patrol backlog drive

New Page Patrol | October 2022 backlog drive
On 1 October, a one-month backlog drive for New Page Patrol will begin. Barnstars will be awarded based on the number of articles patrolled and for maintaining a streak throughout the drive. Barnstars will also be awarded for re-reviewing articles. Redirect patrolling is not part of the drive. Sign up here!
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New Page Patrol – May 2023 Backlog Drive

New Page Patrol | May 2023 Backlog Drive
On 1 May, a one-month backlog drive for New Page Patrol will begin. Barnstars will be awarded based on the number of redirects patrolled and for maintaining a streak throughout the drive. Article patrolling is not part of the drive. Sign up here! There is a possibility that the drive may not run if there are <20 registered participants. Participants will be notified if this is the case.
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New pages patrol needs your help!

New pages awaiting review as of June 30th, 2023.

Hello Noq,

The New Page Patrol team is sending you this impromptu message to inform you of a steeply rising backlog of articles needing review. If you have any extra time to spare, please consider reviewing one or two articles each day to help lower the backlog. You can start reviewing by visiting Special:NewPagesFeed. Thank you very much for your help.

Reminders:

• There is live chat with patrollers on the New Page Patrol Discord.
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New page patrol October 2023 Backlog drive

New Page Patrol | October 2023 Backlog Drive
On 1 October, a one-month backlog drive for New Page Patrol will begin. Barnstars will be awarded based on the number of articles and redirects patrolled. Barnstars will also be granted for re-reviewing articles previously reviewed by other patrollers during the drive. Articles will earn 3x as many points compared to redirects. Interested in taking part? Sign up here.
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New pages patrol newsletter

Hello Noq,

New Page Review article queue, March to September 2023

Backlog update: At the time of this message, there are 11,300 articles and 15,600 redirects awaiting review. This is the highest backlog in a long time. Please help out by doing additional reviews!

October backlog elimination drive: A one-month backlog drive for October will start in one week! Barnstars will be awarded based on the number of articles and redirects patrolled. Articles will earn 4x as many points compared to redirects. You can sign up here.

PageTriage code upgrades: Upgrades to the PageTriage code, initiated by the NPP open letter in 2022 and actioned by the WMF Moderator Tools Team in 2023, are ongoing. More information can be found here. As part of this work, the Special:NewPagesFeed now has a new version in beta! The update leaves the NewPagesFeed appearance and function mostly identical to the old one, but updates the underlying code, making it easier to maintain and helping make sure the extension is not decommissioned due to maintenance issues in the future. You can try out the new Special:NewPagesFeed here - it will replace the current version soon.

Notability tip: Professors can meet WP:PROF #1 by having their academic papers be widely cited by their peers. When reviewing professor articles, it is a good idea to find their Google Scholar or Scopus profile and take a look at their h-index and number of citations. As a very rough rule of thumb, for most fields, articles on people with a h-index of twenty or more, a first-authored paper with more than a thousand citations, or multiple papers each with more than a hundred citations are likely to be kept at AfD.

Reviewing tip: If you would like like a second opinion on your reviews or simply want another new page reviewer by your side when patrolling, we recommend pair reviewing! This is where two reviewers use Discord voice chat and screen sharing to communicate with each other while reviewing the same article simultaneously. This is a great way to learn and transfer knowledge.

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• You can access live chat with patrollers on the New Page Patrol Discord.
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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:46, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:2008-09 National Division Two Table

Template:2008-09 National Division Two Table has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 06:31, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

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November Articles for creation backlog drive

Hello Noq:

WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a month long Backlog Drive!
The goal of this drive is to reduce the backlog of unreviewed drafts to less than 2 months outstanding reviews from the current 4+ months. Bonus points will be given for reviewing drafts that have been waiting more than 30 days. The drive is running from 1 November 2023 through 30 November 2023.

You may find Category:AfC pending submissions by age or other categories and sorting helpful.

Barnstars will be given out as awards at the end of the drive.

There is a backlog of over 2600 pages, so start reviewing drafts. We're looking forward to your help! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:24, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

New pages patrol January 2024 Backlog drive

New Page Patrol | January 2024 Articles Backlog Drive
On 1 January 2024, a one-month backlog drive for New Page Patrol will begin. Barnstars will be awarded based on the number of articles patrolled. Barnstars will also be granted for re-reviewing articles previously reviewed by other patrollers during the drive. Each review will earn 1 point. Interested in taking part? Sign up here.
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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:10, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

New Pages Patrol newsletter April 2024

Hello Noq,

New Page Review queue January to March 2024

Backlog update: The October drive reduced the article backlog from 11,626 to 7,609 and the redirect backlog from 16,985 to 6,431! Congratulations to Schminnte, who led with over 2,300 points.

Following that, New Page Patrol organized another backlog drive for articles in January 2024. The January drive started with 13,650 articles and reduced the backlog to 7,430 articles. Congratulations to JTtheOG, who achieved first place with 1,340 points in this drive.

Looking at the graph, it seems like backlog drives are one of the only things keeping the backlog under control. Another backlog drive is being planned for May. Feel free to participate in the May backlog drive planning discussion.

It's worth noting that both queues are gradually increasing again and are nearing 14,034 articles and 22,540 redirects. We encourage you to keep contributing, even if it's just a single patrol per day. Your support is greatly appreciated!

2023 Awards

Onel5969 won the 2023 cup with 17,761 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 50/day. There was one Platinum Award (10,000+ reviews), 2 Gold Awards (5000+ reviews), 6 Silver (2000+), 8 Bronze (1000+), 30 Iron (360+) and 70 more for the 100+ barnstar. Hey man im josh led on redirect reviews by clearing 36,175 of them. For the full details, see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone for their efforts in reviewing!

WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team and volunteer software developers deployed the rewritten NewPagesFeed in October, and then gave the NewPagesFeed a slight visual facelift in November. This concludes most major work to Special:NewPagesFeed, and most major work by the WMF Moderator Tools team, who wrapped up their major work on PageTriage in October. The WMF Moderator Tools team and volunteer software developers will continue small work on PageTriage as time permits.

Recruitment: A couple of the coordinators have been inviting editors to become reviewers, via mass-messages to their talk pages. If you know someone who you'd think would make a good reviewer, then a personal invitation to them would be great. Additionally, if there are Wikiprojects that you are active on, then you can add a post there asking participants to join NPP. Please be careful not to double invite folks that have already been invited.

Reviewing tip: Reviewers who prefer to patrol new pages within their most familiar subjects can use the regularly updated NPP Browser tool.

Reminders:

• You can access live chat with patrollers on the New Pages Patrol Discord.
• Consider adding the project discussion page to your watchlist.
• To opt out of future mailings, please remove yourself here.

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:26, 2 April 2024 (UTC)