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Sam & Cat

Heya, re: [1] Thanks for the correction, I meant to re-insert the reference to Inside-Out Burger in the sentence where we explain that Dice helped to find the kids. It didn't make sense to me that we're telling the reader that they drove off to Inside-Out Burger, and then that Dice locates them at Inside-Out Burger. If we know where they're going, how hard is it to find them? Anyhow, not a biggie. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:26, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Additionally, I appreciate the other tweaks you've made to my edits. My expectation, by the way, is that after we pare down the episodes, the parenthetical war will begin, whereby once things get quiet, we will see the insertion of non-critical facts and trivia stuffed between parentheses and wedged into the article, a la "Sam and Cat babysit Gwen and Ruby (who had previously been babysat by the girls) who are back from England (where they live with their mother and father)..." Should be fun! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:31, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
Great work on the articles. Only concern I have is guest star credit info - I'd personally like to see the credits match exactly what is shown in the episode end credits themselves and not bother listing the actor in the summary proper, just the character name. Either that, don't do a guest star note and just list the actor next to the character name when mentioned in the summary. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:21, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
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Edit on List of Billboard…

18:48, 9 September 2014‎ MPFitz1968 (talk | contribs)‎ . . (95,263 bytes) (-34)‎ . . (→‎Gap records: Copy edit: (to Tony Bennett's entry) edited for a little wordiness, plus continuation of cleanup to refer to chart as just "Hot 100" (as it's already established the chart is published by Billboard, from article's title)) (undo | thank)

I kind of like the Tony Bennett note that he was listed on "the very first edition" of the Hot 100. It augments the point above and beyond just showing the date it charted.--dnsla23 18:35, 11 September 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dnsla (talk • contribs)

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Fifth Harmony Awards Won

"Where does that count come from? The number of awards won (as appears in the article at the moment) shows as 7."

Hi I didn't want to continue editing to the page without first saying this in case I appeared as a threat. I thought it was 12 because in the column it reads "0,6,2,1,1,2,0" which adds up to 12. Also given that the Shorty Awards has not been added to the total in the column and only appears in the article - that would make 13. I know J-14 is not a notable award but surely the Shorty Awards should be counted which would total to 8 awards. I even have a reference for the Shorty Awards I just don't know how to add it -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD9wDjfYXtQ

I would like to add another reference in that the group were nominated for four more J-14 awards recently https://twitter.com/FifthHarmony/status/528249250325753856

Also if you could respond here as I do not have an account. 86.162.182.203 (talk) 10:28, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Billboard thingies

Hey, just letting you know I've undone the edits for now - best to wait for a proper source from Billboard (don't know what the holdup is this week)... just wanting to avoid an avalanche of unsourced edits. - eo (talk) 20:28, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know, eo. I'm still waiting patiently at Billboard's web site for the article; they sure are slow today. For the record, that YouTube video I'm referring to from Billboard's channel is here Official Billboard Hot 100 Top 10 Nov. 29 2014 Countdown (they sure get the top 10 out there long before they post the article lol). MPFitz1968 (talk) 20:35, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll check it out. Billboard has always (at least in my experience) been maddeningly frustrating - they havent even confirmed #1 album or #1 digital song, which normally is revealed in the morning hours. Yet they update a YouTube channel. Go figure. Anyhoo, I'll keep an eye on it also, at least for a little while. I just hate to see those pages updated by people who don't give a shit about accuracy. - eo (talk) 20:49, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

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Wiki calcs

I noticed the PHP calculation routines that wiki uses to do calculations drop significant trailing zeros on all calculations. Nothing really can be done about this. If a result is 2.00 wiki will display 2. I don't think it matters much for the average but it is annoying. Geraldo Perez (talk) 01:16, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Sabrina Carpenter

Sorry, but I was reverting cases of vandalism if get to see the editions of the IP, you will notice. The "User:Admrboltz" told me "The 3RR rule does not apply to obvious vandalism". Mega-buses (discusión / Talk) 21:25, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

I will look at the IP's users edits again, but I couldn't see clear vandalism. I also warned that user of 3RR. MPFitz1968 (talk) 21:28, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Viewership data

Hi I was wondering how do you find viewers like how many people watch episodes? I really need to find out! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keyonta keyonta (talk • contribs) 23:20, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

@Keyonta keyonta: The only thing I can tell you is to look at the various TV show articles (particularly "List of {name of TV show} episodes" type articles if one exists for the TV show you're wanting to know about) and look through the episode tables at the ratings (or viewership) numbers, and also the reference(s) cited. Zap2it is one website often used as a reference for such information. MPFitz1968 (talk) 23:36, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Reply

I've replied to you at User talk:DavidReyAlvite. Can you please undo his change at List of Billboard Hot 100 number-one singles of 2015 as I've already undone it enough times. We want to avoid redirects. Yes, Billboard does show it with an exclamation point, but someone will need to gain consensus at Talk:Uptown Funk for it to be moved. Until then the punctuation should remain off. Thanks! - eo (talk) 19:33, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

I 've got support on this question. Isn't my fault if I don't get consensus because pf other people opinion with a lack of good criterion to say. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DavidReyAlvite (talk • contribs) 14:31, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

@DavidReyAlvite:, if you do have support, and they are other editors in Wikipedia (or even unregistered users who show interest in Wikipedia), please bring them to the talk page discussion at Uptown Funk. MPFitz1968 (talk) 14:39, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

As I told you, my supports are here but I don't know how can I put a direct link to it:

Talk:Uptown Funk#The "!" in the title of the song is not in the article's heading — request to add it

@DavidReyAlvite: ... simply try [[Talk:Uptown Funk#The "!" in the title of the song is not in the article's heading — request to add it|<whatever text you want displayed to describe that section>]]. Where it says "<whatever text you want displayed...>", place text to describe the talk page section if you don't want the default to show, which is everything before the vertical line ("|", which is known as a pipe).

Henry Danger

Interesting. The MOS must be going by British rules. From what I've learned, periods and commas go inside the quotation marks, regardless of whether they're part of the sentence or not, colons and semi-colons go outside, and question and exclamation marks go inside if they're part of the sentence and outside if they're not part of the sentence. Amaury (talk) 07:16, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Re: List of Girl Meets World episodes

I did look at the talk page first, actually, because I remembered that, too. I guess I oversaw it.

In that case, that means there's an inconsistency. Some episode listings, such as List of Girl Meets World episodes and K.C. Undercover, have guest stars and the like in italics, but others, such as List of Mighty Med episodes and Henry Danger, use bold typeface. I wonder if there should be a mass change every episode listing that still uses bold typeface to italic typeface? Amaury (talk) 16:50, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

@Amaury: I actually did take boldface out of a number of episode listings earlier this year, but suddenly got busy with other things. Guess it's time to apply the MOS:BOLD guideline across other lists; I know I have at least one or two in my watchlist, including Henry Danger. You can help, too, if you want. MPFitz1968 (talk) 17:08, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
@MPFitz1968: I currently have all the free time in the world, so I'd be more than happy to alongside the clean-ups and such. Amaury (talk) 17:11, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
@Amaury: Ok, thanks. I just took care of Henry Danger. MPFitz1968 (talk) 17:13, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
@MPFitz1968: Where should we place the colons? I noticed for Girl Meets World, Dog with a Blog, etc., they're outside the italics, but you left them inside the italics on Henry Danger. Amaury (talk) 17:16, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
@Amaury: I don't remember the guideline specifically, but punctuation follows the markup. Should've checked that, too. MPFitz1968 (talk) 18:03, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
@MPFitz1968: That's one down! Amaury (talk) 03:37, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

@MPFitz1968: I just created this to keep track of my doings. I'm doing full-on clean-ups, but feel free to add to it whenever you update the MOS format somewhere. Geraldo Perez, you're also welcome to use it if you're currently doing anything similar. Just make sure that you both label your sections if you choose to utilize it. :) Amaury (talk) 22:45, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Re: User:184.20.124.101

Looks like they aren't getting the message. They're still at it with regard to updating episode counts too early. Latest case was updating the episode count for K.C. Undercover at 3:44 PM (PDT), even though its premiere time is 8:00 PM (PDT) (or 5:00 PM (PDT) if you're on satellite and have the East channels as well for some channels). Amaury (talk) 00:28, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Again

Guess that's another area I'll need to work on, because many articles I saw had the character names in bold typeface (in the same way that I saw things like "guest stars" in bold typeface a while ago), such as Dog with a Blog. I'll go back through the articles I've worked and remove the bold there when I can. So thanks again. :) Amaury (talk) 14:44, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Inconsistency in List of Girl Meets World episodes

I meant to bring this up with you yesterday because I didn't want to do anything without speaking to you first. :)

Moving the note up yesterday for Girl Meets Fish made it inconsistent with the rest of the article and other episode list articles, so I'm not sure if, at least solely for the case of the List of Girl Meets World episodes article, the note should be moved back to be the last thing or if we should move the notes up for the other episodes that have them. Amaury (talk) 18:34, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

@Amaury: I'm flexible. Was pointing out Corey Fogelmanis' billing in that episode, and I noticed how the "also starring" was before the "guest stars" in the rest of the article. But if putting that note last would be more consistent, rather than moving the notes in other articles, I'm OK with it. MPFitz1968 (talk) 20:34, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

Max Martin

The song by The Weeknd is #1 and it's written and produced by Max Martin. Coastside2 (talk) 21:04, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

@Coastside2: So I noticed in the article for the song. The problem I had was with the sourcing, [2], which said nothing about Max Martin and thus does not support the update you made to List of Billboard Hot 100 chart achievements and milestones. What is needed is something from Billboard which updates Martin's count of songs he wrote and produced, and can directly back the information in the article. This backs the present info up until The Weeknd's song made it to the top, but while we can still update Martin's tallies, and it's important to keep the numbers up-to-date even with the relative lack of timeliness from sources, it won't be official until backed by a reliable source (such as Billboard). MPFitz1968 (talk) 22:34, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Hello

I just thought you might want to be aware of this as it seems you've dealt with them before, especially on the List of Victorious episodes article. They left me a somewhat aggressive message on my talk page, but I just pointed them to Geraldo's talk page as that's where the discussion started--specifically, this is where I brought up the same concerns with Geraldo. Amaury (talk) 05:33, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

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Rowan Blanchard

I was just going to revert that edit, but you beat me to it, heh. nyuszika7h (talk) 17:55, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Is this reliable?

So I was doing some searching on Google and found one article—it's also the only one, from what I saw—from June 17, 2015, confirming Disney Channel series I Didn't Do It being renewed for a third season, but it doesn't mention when it happened and doesn't know when it will premiere, but predicts February 2016: http://tvpre.com/i-didnt-do-it-season-3-premiere-release-date/

I have a fairly decent understanding of the guidelines, like I know fan sites, personal blogs, Twitter (with some exceptions), etc. aren't considered reliable and such; however, I'm not sure if the site above is particularly a blog or not. I mean, it certainly sounds promising as season two is almost over, but I'm just not sure how reliable it is. It's also all that I could find.

Look forward to seeing what you think. Thanks! Amaury (talk) 00:51, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

@Amaury: I'm looking at the site, and it doesn't look reliable to me. The content in the "About" tab didn't convince me that they do, or have reputation for, fact-checking which is one key criterion for determining reliability. The authorship for articles in there is questionable, too, as they are either not identified or are anonymous, so we know little about who has written the articles or whether there is any accountability regarding accuracy of the material. I would be curious about where they've gotten their information, as they don't even mention about Disney Channel officially renewing the show, just saying flat out that "the show has been renewed" (for a third season); their predicting February 2016 as the start of the season is obviously speculation which doesn't belong on Wikipedia. So I wouldn't use that source, and would instead look for an official press release saying whether the show has been renewed. MPFitz1968 (talk) 01:48, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
Ah, more info that further makes it clear it is not reliable: see their Terms of Service, #5: "Responsibility of Website Visitors. TVPre has not reviewed, and cannot review, all of the material, including computer software, posted to the Website, and cannot therefore be responsible for that material's content, use or effects." MPFitz1968 (talk) 01:55, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
At least they're nice enough to mention that. :) Although they had to get it from somewhere, and I'm sure we'll know soon enough from an official source. It does give some hope, though, as I enjoy any sitcom produced by Nickelodeon, Disney Channel, and Disney XD. Amaury (talk) 02:32, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Shows

OMG you watch my favourite shows Mpumi02 (talk) 20:12, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Samantha Smith

Hi. Can you help me with Samantha Smith?

For example, the more I research, the more I'm finding that the article reflects the pop-culture version of Samantha that downplays or omits how her Catholic religious faith influenced her peace activism. The widely used version of her letter leaves out the following lines: “God made the world for us to share and take care of. Not to fight over or have one group of people own it all. Please lets do what (He) wanted and have (everybody) be happy too.”.

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Austin & Ally

As a matter of fact they actually are crossovers. As stated in this article [[3]] and in each episode's promos, two characters from a specific show will crossover into another show's episode. Next time, make sure you have your facts straight and not dismiss the information already provided. User:124.188.99.105 (talk) 15:41, 26 September 2015 (AEST)

(talk page stalker) @124.188.99.105: I suggest you be a little more civil. They are, in fact, not crossovers. Disney Channel commercials are calling them that, but in a much smaller sense. They're only guest starring. A crossover would include all main cast from both currently running shows, which isn't the case here. Amaury (talk) 05:52, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
@124.188.99.105: @Amaury: After that revert, I found out a bit later on Disney Channel that they are advertising the episodes next weekend as crossovers, but it isn't on the same scale as the Austin & Ally crossover with Jessie that was in that article already. But another reason I could've cited for my revert was a bit of undue weight, as that edit showed Austin & Ally crossing over with several other shows for the same event on the network. Don't need to weigh down the article with that much. MPFitz1968 (talk) 06:08, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for taking of Girl Meets World. Strictly speaking, it's not my job, haha, but I've been the one updating episode counts and whatnot. Well, I've been busy with fall quarter, my second quarter, of college as of September 21—not super busy, but still. I've still got DVR recordings of Disney Channel episode premieres from Sunday to watch and a new episode of Gamer's Guide to Pretty Much Everything (Disney XD) from Wednesday to watch.

So yeah. Thanks again. Amaury (talk) 02:40, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Re: List of Girl Meets World episodes colors

My fault. I forgot to make the necessary changes to that part after I copied and pasted. Thank you very much. Amaury (talk) 01:04, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

List of Jessie episodes

You had an edit conflict on your last revert and only got 1 of the 2 edits. I can't touch article any more. Geraldo Perez (talk) 20:10, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

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Re: Henry Danger

Yes, thank you. Entirely my fault. I'm behind and trying to catch up on new episodes that I recorded on the DVR, so I'm easily getting confused on what's actually aired. Amaury (talk) 18:31, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Gamer's Guide to Pretty Much Everything#Non-notable guests

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Merry Christmas!

Merry Christmas to you!

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@Amaury: Thanks. :) MPFitz1968 (talk) 15:47, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

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@Amaury: Thanks, and Happy New Year to you, too! MPFitz1968 (talk) 18:08, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Talk:K.C. Undercover#Enemy of the State

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Re: List of Austin & Ally episodes

Figured I'd leave summaries for the finale episodes to someone more experienced in that field, like you, so if you're up for it... :) That and I can't really think of anything. :x Amaury (talk) 04:14, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Bunk'd

I thought reformatting like that according to the MOS is fine, and Love Me like You Do was renamed despite what the official sources say, too. (Maybe @Geraldo Perez can comment on this.) – nyuszika7h (talk) 15:59, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Probably a grey area, may need to see a clear guideline on when to go against the source's capitalization of words in TV episode titles. I do know I see a lot of song titles do not have all the words capitalized (like prepositions and conjunctions), yet when I look at it in a source like Billboard magazine, they will have the initial letters in all the words of the title capitalized (in print editions of Billboard, by the way, titles are all caps [Edit: I'll clarify here that this applies to their charts, not their articles]). MPFitz1968 (talk) 16:02, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
We should follow the rules at MOS:CT and generally ignore how sources capitalize titles, our manual of style overrides the manual of style used by other publications and they also generally capitalize titles per their own publication's manual of style with may differ from wiki's. Geraldo Perez (talk) 18:21, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) FWIW, I think our MOS guidelines on title capitalizations are poo and we should follow sourcing on this, not follow our silly MOS on it. (Full disclosure: I think most of our MOS guidelines are good, but, like I said, the one on titles is very, very bad...) As a result of our so-called titlization MOS, may of our song and movie article titles completely ignore RS titling capitalization, which is just wrong IMO... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 18:26, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
@IJBall: The MOS is not arbitrary and does follow style guidelines of other publications. For a lot of titles different sources will capitalize differently so instead of picking one wiki uses WP:CT. The talk page at that page is where this is discussed and it looks contentious there too. I have no opinion other than unless a WP:IAR case can be made to follow the Manual of Style as closely as possible until the MOS changes. Geraldo Perez (talk) 18:48, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

List of Make It Pop episodes

If you could watch this, that would be great. There's one regular user who writes summaries, but they're full of grammatical errors and are not written in the present tense. I just had to revert them now because they wrote summaries for two episodes that were way too long—a combined length of 14,116 characters. In regard to the grammar, I've done my best to fix that, though I may have missed something here and there. Also, I'm sure many of the summaries there are too long. So... any help will be appreciated. Amaury (talk) 04:00, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Best Friends Whenever

Can you unlock the article? I think it's unfair to let it be locked for a long time. Elements117 (talk) 00:50, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Elements117: MPFitz isn't an administrator and therefore cannot cancel the protection. In any case, due to persistent disruptive editing, the protecting administrator protected the article from IPs and new users for an appropriate amount of time, which is determined by the level of disruption. Amaury (talk) 01:29, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
@Elements117: You, yourself, will be Autconfirmed in about 24 hours, anyway. At that point, you will be able articles that are Semiprotected. That said, it would be advisable even then to "hang back" a while, and observe how articles like Best Friends Whenever are edited before diving in... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 05:35, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Best Friends Whenever Alt. Title

Hello, I can understand why you reverted it back, but the problem is, I cannot find anywhere besides the Canadian Disney Channel website that refers to it with the alt. title. It also shows up that way on all our guide information. On the website, it only shows it in the Schedule section and only when it's coming on. It isn't shown anywhere else. SJJM4EVER (talk) 10:57, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Stuck in the Middle

I didn't change the color or reordered the cast, you have mistaken me for someone else. Elements117 (talk) 18:09, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

@Elements117: I know. I reverted unconstructive edits made by one IP in between your edits [4] who did the cast reordering and color change. By the time I saw the unconstructive edits, there were edits by that IP, another IP and you. I needed to do a rollback (where it says "Reverted to revision 705164333 by Elements117" [5], as it would not have worked to simply undo the unconstructive edits). MPFitz1968 (talk) 18:21, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Talk:List of Max & Shred episodes#Zap2it's Air Dates

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March 2016

Information icon In response to your comment about Fuller House (TV series): Season 1 already finished, so it is necessary to indicate that these episodes are part of that season, and additionally indicated at the top of the article that is already underway for a second season of the series. There are series that have a season, but that is not to say that no longer belong to chapters that season, so it is necessary. Greetings. Kovox90 (talk) 21:54:58, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Kovox90: It's still not necessary until more seasons start airing as MPFitz pointed out, at which point a separate list of episodes article will be created, anyway. It's obvious it's the first season. Amaury (talk) 22:02, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
@Amaury: Seriously?, "It's obvious" not is a reason for delete a tag necessary for the article. If subsequently a separate list is created, removing that content do not think necessary because currently the first season ended. Kovox90 (talk) 22:20:33, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
Except it's not necessary to the article when there's only one season. Any editor looking at it can tell it's the first season. Once a list of episodes article is created, then it's appropriate to add "Season 1 (Duration)." Amaury (talk) 22:24, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
@Amaury: I understand, I will leave this article. Cheers. Kovox90 (talk) 22:37:47, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

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Informative padlocks

Hello MPFitz1968. Regarding this change. It doesn't work for me (doesn't show the expiry date), but I have popups enabled. So having the expiry date in the protection template still does something, at least for popup users. EdJohnston (talk) 19:15, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

OK, will restore the edit, though the original edit did not have the correct expiry date, according to the page's log. IJBall probably recorded the date/time based on his/her time zone, not UTC, as is how it is reported in Wikipedia. MPFitz1968 (talk) 19:25, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

List of Wizards of Waverly Place episodes

I'm not sure but this was probably just a glitch. Sometimes it's necessary to make a null edit to the article (using purge doesn't always work) just to get everything working. --AussieLegend (✉) 04:40, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

Re: Stuck in the Middle

Just to explain, it wasn't actually outdated. Despite the source, I changed it to at when I did the cleanup as in made no sense. I won't change it back, but my thinking was that there are times when we ignore how a source has something, and this fell into that exception to me as at makes sense. For example, if a source has an episode title of Stuck On The Mountain, we would ignore how the source has it and list it on Wikipedia as Stuck on the Mountain. Amaury (talk) 16:00, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

Question: What do you mean with that hidden note you added for Stuck at the Movies? If that's how he was credited, how it is not a proper name? Amaury (talk) 06:43, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

@Amaury: The guest starring credit is for the usher in the theater. By proper name, I am referring to a proper noun, as usher in this case isn't (would be a common noun). As the credit at the end of the episode also reads with the word "usher" capitalized, and I listed it as such in the credits in the summary, wanted to make clear that it wasn't a proper noun. Plus, there is a singer by the name Usher, so I had that in mind as well when putting in the hidden note. MPFitz1968 (talk) 07:28, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

La'Porsha Renae

It was an error which I reversed myself to fix. I will try to view first before saving next time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CE95:57B0:E895:7120:709B:470D (talk) 09:39, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Volvo vandalism on Girl Meets World

This user is an IP-hopping vandal. I can't find the previous edits right now (though they have been active recently), but they have done vandalism including putting an image of a car in one of the Girl Meets World articles, and also adding made-up things related to GMW to the relevant car article. This time it's different but the connection is obvious. nyuszika7h (talk) 11:44, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

@Nyuszika7h: The recent set of edits was on April 30 [6] and it is a different IP with the same 16-bit prefix (180.191.114.119). I sure have followed the image-pairing vandalism, some more with Volvo [7][8][9] (as 180.191.114.171 on April 1), and others with the National Geographic Channel [10][11][12] (as 180.191.114.195 last December 5). I also remember this happening in the parent article before the episodes were split last year, which had the Girl Meets World and National Geographic Channel logos together, as well as other logos paired with the GMW one. This was around late 2014 or early 2015, but it wasn't just in the Girl Meets World article as I recall (was definitely with at least one other Disney Channel show, either its main article or the episode list, though not sure). At the moment, I can't find those diffs, as they weren't posted under the same 16- or 24-bit IPv4 subnet.

It might be possible these edits [13][14] are linked, too. These were made in the September/October 2015 time frame, both with the same 16-bit prefix but with either 114 or 111 for the third number (180.191.114.106 and 180.191.111.1). While it doesn't pair logos, they inserted a fabricated episode having to do with Red Horse Beer and some videogame. A similar kind of vandalism happened in the List of Liv and Maddie episodes a while back, promoting some videogame. MPFitz1968 (talk) 14:41, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Here are the diffs from the List of Liv and Maddie episodes I was talking about [15][16], both from April 2015 by 180.190.214.161. I'm unsure exactly whether that ties in with the logo-pairing vandalism (also, it's from a 180.190.*.* address rather than 180.191.*.*), yet it does support the final part of my previous comment. MPFitz1968 (talk) 14:58, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
That ping didn't work (it has to be in a new message with a new signature, see mw:Manual:Echo#Technical details), though I'm watching your talk page anyway, so I noticed. nyuszika7h (talk) 15:50, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Extended Confirmed User

Any idea what this rights change many of us are getting is? Amaury (talk) 06:25, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

I'm clueless myself. MPFitz1968 (talk) 07:36, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
Ah, just found something at WP:EXTENDEDCONFIRMED. For those of us who have at least 500 edits and have been registered users at least 30 days, which allows us to edit articles with Arbitration 30/500 protection. MPFitz1968 (talk) 07:41, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

I know you're a pending changes reviewer, so any idea why my changes are pending review here? I'm definitely neither unregistered nor a new user, haha! Amaury (talk) 13:26, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Because your edit came after the edit of an IP editor whose edits have not been confirmed yet. I'm a PC reviewer, so let me take a look at those edits now... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 13:48, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
@IJBall: Thanks. Strange. Maybe different now, but in previous cases, at least before this extended confirmed user feature was introduced, if I reverted an IP's pending edit or made an edit myself after the IP on articles with pending changes protection enabled, my edit would be automatically accepted since I am auto-confirmed. Maybe it was only with reverts, though, and I never noticed. Amaury (talk) 14:03, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
@Amaury: I use Twinkle's revert (rollback) options when I revert someone's edit. It automatically accepts the revision when I do that, but it won't if I use the simple "undo" option to revert or if I make any other edits that require review (like after an IP's edit). MPFitz1968 (talk) 14:08, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
Maybe I should request pending changes reviewer for myself, then. :) Amaury (talk) 14:11, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
I'd advise it, esp. if any article you regularly watch is under PC protection. While they've gotten a little better lately about not handing it out to just anybody, WP:PERM will still give out PC Reviewer rights pretty liberally – short of having a recent block, any experienced editor will almost certainly be granted Reviewer. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:44, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
@IJBall: I have the power! ;) Amaury (talk) 23:05, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
@Amaury: Congrats. Welcome to the PC reviewer club. :) MPFitz1968 (talk) 23:10, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

@Amaury: This thread is a bit old, but just noting that reverting to the latest reviewed version will usually mark your change as reviewed (works with undo and Twinkle, but not if you make the edit manually, apparently), but if you make further edits without reverting the unreviewed ones first, they will be pending review too. nyuszika7h (talk) 15:53, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

List of Punky Brewster episodes

Prod. codes, here: [17]

In case that link doesn't work, go to the U.S. Copyright Office database, and search for "Punky Brewster : no." (and set it to "100 records per page").

If you don't have time to get to it, I'll try to on my end over the next few days... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 22:24, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Note: You may also have to try the more general "Punky Brewster" search to get them all, but that one yields a lot more returns (>100). --IJBall (contribs • talk) 22:27, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
@IJBall: Thanks. I did check the copyright office page earlier, and some of the episodes have the familiar three-digit code though not all of them. I'll see what I can get from the link. MPFitz1968 (talk) 22:51, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Backstage (2016 TV series)

Hey!

I am responding to your removal of our episode synopsis on Backstage. The Futon Critic took our loglines which is what I was trying to update today on the wikipedia page! Anyway we can revert the rejection?

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wktaech (talk • contribs) 19:48, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Wktaech: The Futon Critic does not copy anything from Wikipedia. They get the episode summaries directly from Disney's press releases. You cannot copy text like that from other websites, as it is copyrighted. They should be written in your own words (do not just change the order and/or a few words from the source, as that is WP:PARAPHRASE and may still be considered a copyright violation). Besides, the official summaries released by the networks are really just teasers. Per MOS:TVPLOT, episode summaries should be around 100–200 words, so they are not too long at all. nyuszika7h (talk) 20:11, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
@Nyuszika7h: But we're the production company! We made those loglines. How can I prove this, or "donate" copyright text? Wktaech (talk) 20:20, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
@Wktaech: You should read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials, but the plot summary is not really in an encyclopedic tone and we don't use teasers for episode summaries, so it's not worth it really. (Also, you don't need to use the {{tps}} tag, that's just me because I'm watching MPFitz1968's talk page and sometimes reply to posts before he does.) nyuszika7h (talk) 20:45, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
(edit conflict)@Nyuszika7H: Thanks, and I had been wanting to respond as well, but you pretty much summed things up. Though, this is a learning curve for me, too, as I haven't come across someone yet claiming they own copyrighted material and are wanting to add it. Still, I saw nothing wrong with the longer episode summaries in the article (episodes 1 to 4 ... I actually did those), but shortening it to what I saw in the edit, as well as the summaries for yet-to-air episodes, raised a flag immediately, and I needed to check against The Futon Critic (could've also gone with TV Guide or Zap2it). MPFitz1968 (talk) 21:00, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

Skylar Stecker

Hi, MPFitz1968! I'm gonna ask you to put your thinking cap on for a minute... You know more about music and musician articles than I do, so let me ask – is Skylar Stecker notable notable yet? 'Cos I'm looking at the sourcing at that one (seeing maybe just one or two strong WP:RS), and I'm wondering if it should be WP:AfD'ed... Let me know what you think. Thanks! --IJBall (contribs • talk) 23:27, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

This one's a toughie when looking at the WP:NMUSIC criteria. One of them states about having a single or album on any country's national music chart, which is the only one I'm seeing has any chance. Billboard magazine publishes a whole bunch of music-related charts, and if she charted on their Hot 100 (their prime singles/songs chart) or the 200 (their prime albums chart), this pretty much would be met. The only charts the article is saying she had songs or albums chart on is the Heatseeker albums chart for the Pacific region (which is not national) and the Dance Club songs chart (which is national). Since it says "any country's national music chart", I'm interpreting that, as far as the U.S. goes, as any Billboard chart that applies on the national level, including Dance Club songs. It does not distinguish which national charts qualify nor how well a song or album does on it (her song "Rooftop" getting to #11 on Dance Club songs is not a bad accomplishment, nevertheless), so I'm inclined to say she does meet that one criterion for notability. I can't say whether she meets any other criteria for musicians; I noted that she has performed the National Anthem "more than hundred times", which also includes an NFL preseason game from at least one of the sources I saw, but that in itself doesn't establish notability. Obviously, her being the daughter of an NFL player doesn't either (per WP:NOTINHERIT). She might meet notability on biographies (WP:ANYBIO) if those awards she has won are notable - not sure on that. I'd have to look at those sources more closely, but I'm not seeing where I'd vote "Delete" if it were brought up for an AfD. MPFitz1968 (talk) 06:53, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks

Somehow missed that. :x Amaury (talk) 07:12, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
It probably doesn't get said enough, but you do great work around various TV series articles. Keep up the good work! --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:12, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

Re: Backstage (2016 TV series)

Feel like working out of order, eh? Ha! Amaury (talk) 23:23, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Lol. Haven't forgotten episode 5 ("Take Me Out"), but may watch again to get the details straight on that one, particularly about Miles starting a baseball team. MPFitz1968 (talk) 00:12, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Hey, Michael. Hope your day's going well! I was just curious: am I correct to assume you'll write your own summaries for those episodes where someone else already provided some are? (And I think they fall below the minimum characters, anyway.) I really enjoy your summaries as you generally just do a great job on them. Amaury (talk) 19:29, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

I did look at those summaries after "Sotto Voce", and they need some expanding. Was still working on writing the next episode's summary when someone else got to it, and there's another one (of the ones that have aired here in the U.S.) after that. I'll see about improving what's there and rewriting it if necessary.

I have noticed when watching Backstage (and thankfully I can keep watching recent episodes on demand via Watch Disney or my ISP to refine notes about the episodes) that there are usually three concurrent stories going on, and I usually give them roughly equal prominence, unlike with other shows on Disney, such as Girl Meets World, where the B-story generally is a diversion from the main plot. Since Backstage focuses on the lives of the Keaton students at school and dealing with their various challenges as a whole, I'm not thinking any of the three stories presented should be less weighted or omitted. I'm noticing in the current write-up of "The Understudy" no mention of Denzel helping Scarlett out while she's conserving her voice nor any mention of that Keaton alumnus Maria Schiller, who plans to help out the dance class and becomes even more involved in the following episode "Lose Yourself", getting Vanessa to see the importance of loosening up, as she saw Vanessa too stressed about her dancing, which is also not mentioned in that episode's summary. So I'll definitely get those two episodes improved. Thankfully there's a break till the next one on July 10. ;) MPFitz1968 (talk) 20:14, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, a well-deserved break. How they do things is interesting, though. They'll air new episodes once a week for so long, then every other week, then once a month for one or two episodes before returning to a semi-regular schedule, and so on. (I wish they would just air new episodes once a week and only take breaks for things like holidays, but at the same time it does give users who focus on writing summaries a break.)
As for the plot stuff, that reminds me a lot of Degrassi. It has A, B, C, and sometimes D plots, and what's interesting is that you'd expect something major to be an A plot, and a lot of times it is, but then they will surprise you. For example, Adam's sad fate in season 13 was a C plot if you've seen the series. Amaury (talk) 20:35, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Re: Nicky, Ricky, Dicky & Dawn

And that's already obvious from List of Nicky, Ricky, Dicky & Dawn episodes. Way to state the obvious, IP! :P Amaury (talk) 05:35, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

It does suggest that a 'Recurring' characters section might be a decent idea here though. (Note: I have never set eyes on this particular show – it's a little out of my "demographic group"! – so I personally would have no idea who's really "recurring" or not...) --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:02, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:List of Henry Danger episodes#Number of episodes for second season

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:List of Henry Danger episodes#Number of episodes for second season. Amaury (talk) 20:49, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Re: Henry Danger

Regarding your manual revert here, that's likely due to using the visual editor. It's happened to me as well when using it which is really only when I update episode counts—source mode is easier for me for everything else. Looks like it automatically orders everything based on the "default" ordering seen on the template page here. Amaury (talk) 01:28, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

Interesting. Had another look at that edit, and the IP ended up removing a couple of names from the starring list in the infobox, but couldn't tell with all the reordering. If it was simply reordering the parameters, there likely would be no net change in the size of the article (or perhaps a few bytes if there were extra spaces or blank lines around), but a net change of -169 certainly means content was changed/removed. MPFitz1968 (talk) 01:38, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
I see what you mean, yeah. I've deleted unused fields before, but only ones I knew wouldn't be used. Amaury (talk) 01:49, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
wikEdDiff can be useful in such cases. This is what I see there. The reordering is based on the order specified in the TemplateData, and unknown parameters that are not specified there get moved to the end. nyuszika7h (talk) 18:46, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
@Nyuszika7H: Sounds like that would be useful in cases where you can't seem to find what was changed. I've seen plenty of edits where I couldn't tell what was changed as there was no red anywhere in either the old (yellow) version or the new (green) version, which indicates what was changed. Amaury (talk | contribs) 19:02, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
@Amaury: Yeah, it's useful. In a few rare cases the normal diff view is more readable, so it's nice that it keeps that one too. nyuszika7h (talk) 19:49, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
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