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August 2011

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November 2011

Please refrain from changing genres, as you did to Miss Independent (Kelly Clarkson song), without providing a source and without establishing a consensus on the article's talk page first. Genre changes to suit your own point of view are considered disruptive. Thank you. Aspects (talk) 23:51, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

December 2011

Please do not add unsourced content, as you did to Miley Cyrus. This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. That also goes for Genres - you have been warned many times now, so please stop. -- MST☆R ^{(Merry Christmas!)} 12:41, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Belle

You suggested some comments and I've left some things here, hope they are helpful GroovySandwich^Yum. 09:47, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

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Minotaurgirl

Kelly knew what color her eyes were when she made the song "Behind These Hazel Eyes". Comparing the pictures of Kelly and Belle, they do seem to share the same eye color just slightly different shades of it - Belle's eyes are little lighter. Someone made a video called "Behind Belle's Hazel Eyes", the person who made this video knew what color Belle's eyes were and decided to include Belle's name in the title. And if you read the comments, the people fully agree her eyes are hazel with comments like "green or hazel? they look more hazel than brown or green . yup belles eyes are deffinetely hazel problem solved". I like the "problem solved" part. With Minotaurgirl's bias against the idea of Belle having hazel eyes, I think there will always be a problem with people like her involved.

TV Tropes has already suffered an edit war because of her, so much so they forbade users from writting what Belle's eye color is. Notice how Belle's name is missing from the Eye Color tropes colony, while the rest of Disney Princesses have their eye color mentioned. Belle's name was there under the category of Hazel Eyes until Minotaurgirl came along and ruined it all. Same thing almost happened to Disney Wiki. This is Minotaurgirl's account, as you can see she got blocked with an expiry time of infinite, the reason; inserting false information, the false information being writting down Belle's eyes as brown.] And now here's Minotaurgirl on the Wikipedia. Is there any repsite from her?

I noticed she has a Live Journal account. See what she has written. The lack of links speaks for itself. She thinks she actually proved Belle's eyes are brown, depsite the fact what she has presented as evidence is either a minority or a plain old lie, like the screenshots she send me. By magnifying the images, you can see her eyes are hazel-colored and not the same color as her hair at all. Notice how she's afriad to use close-ups of Belle's eye cuz she knows they'll appear hazel if she did so, thus disproving her. On her blog, she didn't mention that she was blocked on Disney Wiki, and said the only reason Disney Wiki kept Belle's eyes color as hazel was to shut up people who keep writting her eyes as hazel, when in reality the one who got shut up was Minotaurgirl as she got blocked while the others didn't. She wrote "Bleh. Kids these days. This one needs a hobby. I'm tired of wasting time trying to undo this snot's damage, and I'm fairly sure the mods of these sites are too. Would it be possible to just...block this person off the internet entirely until they learn some manners?" Yup, she calls people who use logic and legitimate evidence to prove their point snots and hobby-less kids if the evidence goes against what Minotaurgirl said/believes.

If anyone deserves to be blocked, it's Minotaurgirl. If it wasn't for her bias, sites like like TV Tropes, Disney Wiki and the Wikipedia wouldn't have suffered an edit war about Belle's eye color. The fact that there was never an edit about Belle's eye color until Minotaurgirl came along, says a lot. Ever since she got blocked from Disney Wiki almost an year ago, no edit war about Belle's eye color happened there either. It's like Minotaurgirl is the only person on the entire internet who refuses to accept Belle's eyes as hazel and is willing to go to every page and change her eye color to brown, just cuz she likes to think so, not because the world thinks so or any legit evidence are presented. It's like someone going around changing Ariel's eyes from blue to green, just cuz he likes the idea of Ariel being green-eyed. Things don't work like that.

My overall opinion on Minotaurgurl. I think it's safe to say the internet is better off without her. She's toxic, she's a nuisance, she's talks trash to people just cuz they disagree with her, she lies, she mangles, twists and misrepresents other people's words, and she causes edit wars. Action needs to be taken against people like this.--Wolfcho (talk) 05:44, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

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Ref templates

Well to quickly use a ref twice use the ref name templates, like this <ref name="example."> Then you put the regular cite information now that you have that template there, If you need to call back upon that source, go back and do you do this <ref name="example" />. You should probably look at this. I'm not sure how much of a help I was but that's the gist of it - GroovySandwich^Yum. 06:35, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

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Sorry About The Cinderella Article

But the clothing section was edited by another user who adds excessive information. I never intended for that to happen when I added the section, I promise. --99.192.23.155 (talk) 16:30, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

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Belle (Disney) for FA?

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Belle for FA

Aha, believe or not, I nominated this article for FA once before and it was rejected for a variety of reasons available on its talk page. I am flattered by the fact that you are perplexed by the amount of work that has been done. I did not initiate the article, but I believe I am its primary contributor. In fact, I am responsible for getting it its current GA status, and have steadily continued working on it since. I am hoping to nominate for FA some time soon. It is incredible how much the article has evolved since it was awarded GA status, as shown by this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Belle_%28Disney%29&oldid=529164297 --Changedforbetter (talk) 17:52, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

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...is extremely close to GA, just a couple more comments for you to reply to or change. -- Zanimum (talk) 22:37, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Almost There (The Princess and the Frog song)

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I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Almost There (The Princess and the Frog song) for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is significant enough to be included in an encyclopedia, and the artist doesn't have an article.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Makro (talk) 21:47, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

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• Some people believe that the toolbar already has too many options—how would you simplify it?

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You have done amazing work on getting this article to GA, and I am proud of being able to help out a little here and there. I have a personal passion for Disney's Hunchback, so would really like to see this article go to the next level. For this reason I will list it at WP:Peer review. Having gone thoruhg the process before, I know it will take weeks/months for it to actually get reviewed, so might as well list it now while there are no other Art nominations. Obviously you have contributed much more than me and are more experienced with these Disney-related articles than I, so any work you could provide would be awesome. FA, here we come! :)--Coin945 (talk) 16:54, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

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There's no problem with the Jackie Chan image- the issue is with non-free images/samples. WP:SAMPLE is our guideline which governs the use of non-free samples, but all non-free content, whether music or images, has to meet our non-free content guidelines, and specifically the non-free content criteria. J Milburn (talk) 08:53, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

The specific worry is criterion 8- do we really need to see a screenshot in order to understand the song? I'm not convinced. For now, I'm happy to leave it open to you/the GA reviewer(s), but it is something you should be aware of. 18:41, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

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Belle's marriage

I noticed your recent edit on Belle's article. I thought that in the final scene of the movie, Belle is wearing a crown on her head in the stain-glass window, which meant that she did marry the Beast/Prince. I thought it was also established that they were married in the last scene of Beauty and the Beast: The Enchanted Christmas. And1987 (talk) 20:44, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

And1987 I don't ever remember it being officially established that Belle marries the Beast, and simply basing the character's royal status off of a stained-glass image of Belle wearing a crown at the end of the film would be only an assumption – or "original research," as more devout Wikipedians would probably dub it. Placing a crown on Belle's head doesn't make her a princess, just as putting a wedding dress on a single woman doesn't make her a bride. The same goes for the sequel: two characters who are obviously in love and living together does not automatically make them a married couple, although the natural thing to do is to assume so. Looking at the Disney Princesses (excluding Pocahontas and Mulan for obvious reasons), the only ones who we can officially say are married are Cinderella, Ariel, Jasmine, Tiana and Rapunzel – Snow White, Aurora and Belle are only romantically involved. Also, a simple Googling of "Did Belle marry the Beast" shows that the opinions of online writers are currently divided. Therefore, I believe that it is safer to leave the spouse and occupation sections of the infobox blank.--Changedforbetter (talk) 21:59, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Then we should probably leave the section for Aurora's spouse blank because we did not officially see a priest marrying them at the end of Sleeping Beauty. And1987 (talk) 23:23, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

And1987 Aurora is a sensitive subject. Although they technically do not get married, Aurora and Philip are betrothed for the entire film and a wedding is obviously the "next step". So I believe that including Philip as her spouse does not pose as much of an issue, and you would have a hard time convincing users otherwise. However, one must remember that they in fact are not actually depicted getting married. Either way would work.--Changedforbetter (talk) 23:44, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

And1987 I just realized that this issue can be easily resolved by including the underused "significant other" section in the article, as I have done to Belle's article to suggest a compromise.--Changedforbetter (talk) 00:31, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you Changedforbetter. I was actually about to say that on Sofia the First, Belle was referred to as "Princess Belle" twice by Sofia in this official video from Disney Junior. [1] However, what you have written works very well. And1987 (talk) 01:16, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

The next project

I like watching what article you choose to work on, because you always do such an impeccable job with each new project you take on. I was just wondering if you had any ideas of the next thing you're thinking of improving. Not because I want to interfere or anything. I have a genuine interest in what article is soon to get a massive boom in quality. It's kind of exhilarating--Coin945 (talk) 04:02, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Coin945 Lol why thank you. I really don't have any pre-conceived notions of what article I want to work on; simply depends on how I'm feeling. I usually choose articles that are relatively older or obscure as they garner less attention from other editors, giving me more freedom to do with it what I please and limit edit warring. Since I just reconstructed a Disney character article, my next project will probably be a Disney song.--Changedforbetter (talk) 18:30, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Ahh yes.. what you did with Belle is realy quite astounding. Many other editors would have been content with what was there before (it was already a GA after all), but it is soo soo much better now. :D As something a little bit different, may I suggest one of the Disney stage musicals?

--Coin945 (talk) 04:34, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Coin945 I'm actually the editor responsible for bringing Belle to GA status back in 2012, but of course it fell subject to fan cruft for two years and I abandoned it until earlier this year. You made a valid suggestion, of course, but I'm afraid that Disney Broadway musicals are a little too ambitious for me, and require someone with enough time and expertise to find sufficient information on ticket sales, box office numbers, tour dates, etc. What I could possibly do is expand the critical response sections, but that would be about it. I'm much better off sticking with smaller-scale articles. Thanks though!--Changedforbetter (talk) 16:19, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Ahh yes that makes sense. Character and song articles are probably much easier to find sources for because their scope is smaller. It's not like you have to consult box office sites, and DVD extras, and legal documents, and all this disparate stuff for the various sections. FWIW I knew you were the one who brought Belle to GA. What I meant was that by returning to the article and brutally copyediting it, you've made it really quite the comprehensive article that goes above and beyond to explain who this person is and their importance to the industry. One quick thing thoguh... at one point you mention "her dad and Maurice" (i think in reference to her mothering other characters). Her dad *is* Maurice so I think you meant Beast. Forgot to bring it up earlier. Oh nearly forgot... the sources I collected for Talk:Colors of the Wind (you said a while ago youd be interested in it) are still there if you didnt feel like looking for sources (huzzah for laziness :P). Other than that, I wish you all the best with your future endeavors. Ciao. :)--Coin945 (talk) 16:36, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Coin945Thank you for the correction and yes I'll remember to keep Colors of the Wind in mind.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:18, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

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Green vs Greene

First off, I would like to congratulate you on getting Rachel Green to GA status. As a courtesy I am interested in getting your opinion at a discussion, Talk:Rachel_Green#The_Green_vs._Greene_section, regarding a new section which has recently been added to the article. Personally, I think it is detrimental to the article and I have removed it twice; however, as you are the editor who elevated it to its current standing I am happy to defer to your judgment in this matter. If you are happy for the new section to be added I will withdraw from the dispute, but if you also disagree with its inclusion perhaps you will contribute your thoughts to the discussion on the talk page. Best regards, Betty Logan (talk) 22:22, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

@Betty Logan:

Thank you for having the decency to include me in this matter of dispute. And you're absolutely right in removing the section; yes, the fact that Rachel's surname is spelled inconsistently throughout the series is no secret, but there is simply no need include an entire section about it, especially when the general consensus agrees that the character's last name is spelled Green.--Changedforbetter (talk) 23:41, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

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	My congratulations on your amazing accomplishments at Wikipedia! I have read with great pleasure several of your contributions. Bravo and ...Merci! Natalie.Desautels (talk) 16:00, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Some feedback please; your expert advice would be greatly appreciated

@Changedforbetter:

Hello Changedforbetter,

My congratulations on your amazing accomplishments at Wikipedia! (I sent you a much deserved barnstar to add to your collection : )

I have been referred to you by Checkingfax; indeed, you are highly recommended by him! I have created an article on classical and flamenco guitar and atonal music in general and on internationally renowned Canadian guitarist Michael Laucke in particular. So far, I'm delighted that it has been ushered in live, and several editors have sent some nice comments my way; still, I feel improvements in style remain to be made.

I am proud to have contributed about several hundred hours of research. We are approaching 500 edits, about half of which are the incredible work of Checkingfax, and 12 other editors have also helped

I am hoping that you will be able to take a moment to give me some feedback; your expert advice would be greatly appreciated. My goal is to make it better, and I love to learn. I was reviewed, unbeknownst to me, about 300 edits ago, and given a C rating. The "grade" is not important to me personally, neither is credit in any way. But I have spent some time correcting Bots errors, and perhaps a GA rating would mean fewer robot visits, and more time to further develope this and other articles. I am a born perfectionist, and need to see things through to their logical conclusion, that means ...excellence. I am "polyglote" (multilingual); there is little difference to me between a few languages. So after this English version, I will have the pleasure of making a French one with different sources, and then a Spanish one.

My hope is to get an English version with improved syntax and style, smoothness and readability; indeed, this would be most inspiring for the translation and re-working into my other language versions.

The article references, of which there are over 80, are perfect according to various software like reFill and Proveit. Thus, my questions concern things like,

• - Is the first paragraph in the lead too long?
• - Does the lead have too much detail; should it be more general?
• - In striving really hard for a neutral point of view, have I made it acceptable to Wikipedia but boring?
• - Are the sections in the best order?

I do hope that this might interest you, that I have piqued your curiosity and that you can help me make a better version; even if time is short, as it always is, any feedback from you will help and be much appreciated, to be sure.

Cordially,

Kindest regards, Natalie --Natalie.Desautels (talk) 16:42, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

P.S. @Robvanvee: @Checkingfax, GrammarFascist, Bgwhite, and Vipinhari: I am pinging several editors who have showed interest in improving this article, just to keep you in the loop; hope it's in accordance with Wikipedia protocol, and non-intrusive. --Natalie.Desautels (talk) 16:42, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

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Hello again, Changedforbetter

I have taken the liberty to communicate on your talk page rather than mine. Since different editors seem to have preferences as to where they prefer to communicate, here is a link to my own Talk page, if you prefer. Hope you don't mind and that this in accordance with Wikipedia protocol, and non-intrusive. best wishes, --Natalie.Desautels (talk) 17:16, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

@Natalie.Desautels: Thank you for the barnstar; it is heartwarming to know that my work is being appreciated. I will take a look at the article, however, please note that biographies are not my expertise, so I will be limiting myself to refining the lede section. And yes, communicating on my talk page will do just fine :-)--Changedforbetter (talk) 22:44, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

@Changedforbetter: Indeed, it is a pleasure to read you, and a learning experience as well.

I was very excited to receive your message. An improvement to the lead section in Michael Laucke would be wonderful indeed! This is the section I perhaps worked hardest on. Thank you so much in advance, and once again, I would be amiss not to again mention how much I enjoy your work. very best wishes, gros merci! Natalie --Natalie.Desautels (talk) 03:55, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

CC. @Robvanvee: @Checkingfax, GrammarFascist, Bgwhite, and Vipinhari: --Natalie.Desautels (talk) 03:55, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

@Changedforbetter and Checkingfax:

Hello @Changedforbetter: We've made a ton of improvements since we last communicated. I am hoping you can pass by and extend a brief opinion of Michael Laucke - maybe just a quick first impression if time is short (well, which it always is on this our mortal orb )

@Checkingfax: has made amazing contributions. De toute façon, ...if you have a moment. Many, many thanks; very much appreciated. ...un gros merci! --Natalie.Desautels (talk) 13:30, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

@Natalie.Desautels: Sorry I haven't been able to work on the article myself. It was really my intention to, but I totally got caught up working on one of my own articles that I've been putting off for months. However, Michael Laucke looks great – many of the improvements that I would have made myself – especially within the lead – have, in fact, been made, and you should be proud. And well done fleshing out the rest of the article along with it!!!--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:29, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

@Changedforbetter and Checkingfax:

Hello @Changedforbetter:, How wonderful to receive your kind response! I know how one can get caught up in things (especially considering the little time given us on this, our mortal orb ). Well, thank you for grabbing a moment to read through, and for your very kind remarks; ...encouraging also toward upcoming ideas which are brewing. I will also be doing the [Michael Laucke] article in some of my other languages, at least French and Spanish versions (I am a polyglot). Credit where credit is due though; I must say that while @Checkingfax: has done about half of the 900 edits, he merits credit for a great deal more—endless kind suggestions, amazingly appropriate technical guidance, and so on).

Well, thank you again; I am delighted! --Natalie.Desautels (talk) 06:09, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

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Gaston

Hi.

Think you can not only recreate Gaston from Beauty and the Beast as his own separate article, but also expand on the article, like you did with the Belle and Ursula articles? Weedle McHairybug (talk) 14:06, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Hi @Weedle McHairybug:, I'd love to create and expand a Gaston article. It's actually been a goal of mine for a while, but I just haven't gotten around to it. Surely sometime in the not-so-distant future I'll take a look at it :-)--Changedforbetter (talk) 17:09, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Well, technically, it's already created, but it's currently a redirect now. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gaston_(Beauty_and_the_Beast)&redirect=no Hopefully, after you've taken care of the Ursula one, you'll be able to start on it. TBH, I am a bit nervous regarding your eventual rewrite of Ariel's article, though, since after I read up on your extensive rewrites on Belle and especially the source material, I basically lost my trust in Belle (well, okay, I was starting to lose trust in Belle since 2011, but that was where it really cascaded), and I really don't want to endure something similar with Ariel, especially when she and her film were the first films I ever watched. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 23:30, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Hey, Changed, you've managed to barely make it a separate article, though it's still in the stub category. Think you can further do more to expand upon it? We don't want to be back where we started because some mod decided to redirect it due to it not having enough content, or worse, deleting it. I added a statement and source regarding a potential inspiration for Gaston given by Woolverton, and I've also copied/pasted the section for Gaston in List of Disney's Beauty and the Beast characters article onto that article as a stop-gap measure, but I fear it won't be enough. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 14:42, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

Hey @Weedle McHairybug:, I haven't forgotten about Gaston, I just have a few other Wikipedia projects I need to get my hand on before I go more indepth with Gaston. But, I have checked it out, and good job with expanding it so far :)--Changedforbetter (talk) 00:35, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Just so we're clear, just how much more Wikipedia projects do you have? And can you cite names for the projects? Just want to make sure I don't have to wait too long. And thanks. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 11:53, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

@Weedle McHairybug: Ursula (The Little Mermaid), Princess Jasmine and Aurora (Disney).--Changedforbetter (talk) 18:19, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

Okay. One last thing, just how much more for each article do you still have to do? Again, want to make sure I don't have to wait too long. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 19:05, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

Aha well if you must know, Aurora literally just got promoted to GA today, so it's only the other two left. Jasmine is on its way (hopefully end of next week). And I might actually just leave Ursula alone for a while. You know, you're welcome to continue working on Gaston in the meantime; no need to wait for me.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:10, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

I've readjusted the article to include sections, and rearranged some things, but that's all I can do. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 11:59, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

@Weedle McHairybug: I appreciate the work you've done on the article so far; I just want to make sure I've collected enough data and references before I continue to transform it. Thanks for your patience.--Changedforbetter (talk) 17:38, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

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Coin945 on the subject of Beauty and the Beast

Hi Changedforbetter, I hope you're doing well.

I just wanted to apologise for any behaviour I showed during the expansion of the Beauty and the Beast (Disney song) that caused you annoyance, stress, or unhappiness. Sometimes in my urgency and quest for completion/comprehensiveness, I may come up with ideas and want to act upon them immediately, like in the revising of the "Use in Beauty and the Beast and ballroom sequence" section. This was wrong of me, and not fair to you who have put in countless hours of work, and I just wanted to extend a handshake to you.

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Phoebe Buffay

I have noticed you have written Friends characters' (Rachel and Monica) articles. Are you planning to write Phoebe's article too? Please do that as her article is criminally undeveloped and small. It would be great if you could.Krish | Talk 19:18, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

• I've definitely been considering it as one of my potential future projects :-)--Changedforbetter (talk) 01:24, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

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Gaston (again)

Hi.

Since you've finished with both Kim Possible and Jasmine's articles, think you can get started on the Gaston article's massive overhaul? Weedle McHairybug (talk) 01:57, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

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Gaston (yet again)

Hi.

Can you continue with your edits to the Gaston article? See, it's being tagged for deletion and we really need to make sure we give enough details about Gaston either regarding development, other appearances, reception, or anything like that to make sure it won't get deleted. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 12:12, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Why not WP:Be Bold and hit the edit button yourself? I'm sure ChangedForBetter is pretty busy right now. You can do the research and improvements yourself! :)--Coin945 (talk) 13:28, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

I've added in some details regarding Gaston, namely the development section regarding his time as "Gaston Legume" in the Richard Purdum draft as well as the reasons why he was altered when that draft was cut, but I'm pretty much limited elsewhere. Bing can only take me so far, and I'm not even sure if some of the articles I do find (such as this article relating to the development trivia about Gaston's original fate) are Wikipedia-appropriate. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 18:59, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

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Gaston revision

Hi.

You reverted my edit regarding why the Gaston LeGume version as well as the draft he appeared in was rewritten with the following: "I'm afraid I'm going to have to remove this, especially since the sources you provided do not support any such claim."

I'll tell you how exactly at least the first source supported the claim: This is from the first few paragraphs within that source:

"It's the fairy tale that daunted Disney.

"Nearly a half-century after Walt Disney first considered it, "Beauty and the Beast," the fairy tale that evaded the master storyteller, has finally been brought to the big screen.

"It required a feminist twist on the classic fairy tale; the talents of Alan Menken and Howard Ashman, "The Little Mermaid" songwriters of Disney's Christmas season hit two years ago, and the commitment of Disney Studios chairman Jeffrey Katzenberg and Walt Disney Company vice chairman of the board Roy E. Disney (son of Walt's brother Roy) to make the film a reality."

And I'd know because it was in the Belle article as well. Basically, I wish you'd at least keep the first source, if not the full edit.

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Gaston edits.

Hi.

I have a question regarding the edits to the Gaston article.

If you're too busy to continue with the edits, I understand.

I just need to know this:

If you're not going to be able to edit the Gaston article in the near future, can you at least tell me what would be an appropriate way to source some of the other appearances for Gaston, in particular the Marvel Comics appearance? Weedle McHairybug (talk) 13:14, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Belle

Hi Changedforbetter, I've seen several edits over the portrayers that were removed from the infobox. I just wanted to let you know I apologize for reverting your edit and adding them back, I didn't mean too, i was trying add something else in there. But I look at your talk page discussions over the portrayers and I agreed to them and I did manage to remove two of them and I left Emma Watson in there, for right now. 174.192.26.119 (talk) 20:52, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

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Theo Huxtable

Theodore Huxtable is one to help with if you are interested. Dwanyewest (talk) 15:30, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

I aslo did Darlene Conner Healy if you are interested? Dwanyewest (talk) 18:57, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

One more thing I have already done some work on She-Ra and other MOTU characters I am planning on improving on Catra and Teela as well. Dwanyewest (talk) 19:00, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

Denise Huxtable

Your editing of this article is more impressive than anything I would be capable off and I learnt stuff about the character and actress I never knew about before. Dwanyewest (talk) 19:20, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

@Dwanyewest: Aw haha thank you so much, that's really kind of you to say. I'm glad you're pleased. Are you aware that I got Clair Huxtable to GA status? As for the articles you suggested above, unfortunately I don't really know much about those characters to be of much assistance when it comes to expending them, but if you need help copy editing or improving upon what's already there I would be happy to if I have time.--Changedforbetter (talk) 19:26, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

The last episode that Denise appeared in was "Cliff and Jake", which was the 24th episode of the seventh season. Aoba47 (talk) 17:06, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

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Note about Nala article

I would recommend that you either report the IP addresses that are making the disruptive edits on the Nala article, or request that it should be protected for a set amount of time to avoid future issues with the page. Aoba47 (talk) 22:41, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

@Aoba47: Ugh, you're right. Disney-related articles are constantly targeted by edits like these from anonymous editors. I've been putting it off dealing with them for a while (and just reverting edits) but I'll definitely look into a more permanent solution soon. Thanks!--Changedforbetter (talk) 01:44, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

• No worries, and I am sorry to hear that those articles get targeted. I guess it makes sense as Disney is very popular, but vandalism is never cool. I just wanted to suggest this so you do not get in any trouble for all of the reverts as the string of ones on the Nala page seem rather consistent unfortunately. Aoba47 (talk) 02:37, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

• Just wanted to let you know that the page has been protected for a few days, and that should hopefully solve that issue. Aoba47 (talk) 19:02, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

• Aoba47Yes, I noticed. Thank you :-)--Changedforbetter (talk) 20:05, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Female characters

Donna Martin (character) and Brenda Walsh (character) I dunno if you are interested but if are interesting in helping updating these ficitional characters I would be most grateful. Dwanyewest (talk) 02:26, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

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Ariel and Maleficent

Hi.

I wanted to ask: Are you planning on doing any significant overhauls for Ariel's article?

Also, are you going to also overhaul Maleficent's article? If so, think you can post the source claiming that Walt Disney actually ordered that none of the heroes should kill the villains after Sleeping Beauty? I definitely remember reading that a few years back. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 14:37, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

@Weedle McHairybug: I don't really have "plans" to work on either of those articles, but it could be a possibility for sure. Also out of curiosity I Googled the quote you mentioned but the results came up pretty dry, unfortunately.--Changedforbetter (talk) 17:00, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

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Pocahontas, anyone?

Hi Changedforbetter, you thanked me for adding a new pic to the article Princess Jasmine. I looked at you user page and found that (like me) you love Disney and films with strong female protagonists. With that in mind, would you be willing to evaluate the article for Disney's Pocahontas if I nominated it for GA status? MagicatthemovieS (talk) 12:08, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

@MagicatthemovieS: Hi there, yes over the past few weeks I've noticed that we seem to have quite a bit in common in regards to the edits we make; after a quick glance through Pocahontas, I'm gonna go ahead and say that it looks like it's a very strong article that I would be happy to review for GA :-). You've really turned it around!--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:50, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

@Changedforbetter: Thanks for the compliment and swift response! I nominated the article! MagicatthemovieS (talk) 12:08, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

@Changedforbetter: What else should I do to the Pocahontas article? MagicatthemovieS (talk) 12:08, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

Hey@MagicatthemovieS:! I'm so sorry, Please don't take my absence from the project to mean anything other than I've been having some computer trouble at home; I've been closely monitoring your work so far using my phone, and must say I am impressed - I'll leave some more review comments later today.--Changedforbetter (talk) 20:07, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

@Changedforbetter: No problem - just checking in with you. MagicatthemovieS (talk) 12:08, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

@Changedforbetter: Who is the rightful editor? I would be happy to contact her/him to see if they would be OK with the article being nominated. Also, I most certainly wasn't trying to take credit for anyone else's work! I was just trying to better this article. MagicatthemovieS (talk) 21:02, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

@Changedforbetter: Since the Pocahontas article has been peer reviewed and re-nominated for GA status, would you be interested in reviewing it for GA status, or do you know someone who would who hasn't contributed to the article to a significant degree? MagicatthemovieS (talk) 21:02, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

@MagicatthemovieS: Just nominate the article as you normal would, and hopefully a suitable editor will approach this time around.--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:42, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

Possibility of providing your input on a Peer Review for Regine Velasquez's entry

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I'm writing to ask whether you would consider having a look at the article. I'm aware that you've been involved with a few PRs before. I've given it a major rewrite and complete overhaul. I began working on the article late October when it looked like this and somehow ended up rewriting the whole thing and aiming for potentially FA. This isn't a process I've been through before, but I have been reading the reviews here in preparation, and am familiar with FAC demands. I would very much appreciate a fresh set of eyes and happily address any concerns you may have.

Thanks! Pseud 14 (talk) 04:25, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

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"Colors of the Wind"

Hi Changedforbetter, it's me MagicatthemovieS. You might remeber me from that Pocahontas fiasco a few months back. Good news - I did get the film to GA status. I am now in the process of improving the article for "Colors of the Wind" and I'm wondering if you might like to join me in improving it. ----MagicatthemovieS

• Congratulations on the Pocahontas promotion! You've done good work. I can try and take a look at "Colors of the wind" within the next few days.--Changedforbetter (talk) 17:51, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

The article is good except for two major issues - it needs ifo on its use in the film and on the many, many covers of it. Thanks for wanting to help improve it!--MagicatthemovieS

Also, if you're interested, I'm trying to improve the Pocahontas (character) article so that it's up to the standards of the articles for Belle and Jamsmine--MagicatthemovieS

Hi MagicatthemovieS, I just wanted to give you a heads up that there's currently a bit of an issue going on with Wikipedia's editing tool (for some reason, text that I type is constantly being re-arranged and deleted – often into illegible text – while I type them with little explanation, making the process tedious) that has been affecting my ability to edit articles as quickly as I would like to, which may delay my ability to revise your "Colors of the Wind" article.--Changedforbetter (talk) 16:15, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up & thanks for being an awesome Wikipedian!----Magicatthemovies

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Hello, Changedforbetter. I reviewed Pocahontas and passed its GAR. I see you have nominated Edna for GA. Would you like me review it?  — Ssven2 ^{Looking at you, kid} 15:06, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

• Ssven2 Hi there! Please by all means, you're more then welcome to review it if you'd like, it would be much appreciated.--Changedforbetter (talk) 18:34, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Done. I will provide comments by this weekend.  — Ssven2 ^{Looking at you, kid} 03:41, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

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Careful!

If I hadn't recognised your user name I'd have reverted you for this: [2]. Did you really mean that insertion of "yo"? Philip Trueman (talk) 02:02, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

My apologies, that's a typo that is actually supposed to say "to"; I'll correct it.--Changedforbetter (talk) 02:04, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

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Colors

Hi again! I wrote most of the "Colors of the Wind" article and I see you've edited it. I was thinking that perhaps we could divide up the work so we could get it to GA status. Do you like that idea? --MagicatthemovieS

Michelle Pfeiffer

Hey, amazing work on the article! I was also thinking on adding more as it was lacking much info about her career as a whole. Thank you... (My last night edit was unintentional, I think we were both editing at the same time). Warm greetings to you. 190.249.179.87 (talk) 17:23, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

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		Congratulations on all of your work on the Violet Parr article! Aoba47 (talk) 01:36, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

• Seconding the above. Also, I was thinking about picking up the Violet Parr good article nomination for review this weekend, but I remembered that Incredibles 2 came out not more than a week ago. Do you envision that the content of the article will change a lot in the coming weeks as more information about the character's role in the new film is published? It might be better to wait until the article is a bit more stable before doing a GA review. Mz7 (talk) 08:01, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

• Mz7 Hi there, thank you so much for your kind words and interest! I get what you're saying; honestly, I don't expect that the article will change that much in the wake of Incredibles 2 (apart from the "Appearances" and "Reception" sections, which I've kind of already updated), but I wouldn't hold it against you if you wanted to hold off a little longer. It'll be here whenever you're ready! :-) --Changedforbetter (talk) 14:58, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

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Hello

I asked you awhile back if you'd like to help me with the "Colors of the Wind" article - would you when finished with your GA? We could divide up work on it.--MagicatthemovieS

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Colors of the Wind

Wanna do Colors now?--MagicatthemovieS

@MagicatthemovieS: I'm sorry, I'm simply not interested in contributing to "Colors of the Wind" beyond the little that I already have at this time. Best of luck though!--Changedforbetter (talk) 03:40, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

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Awesome job with the Cinderella (1997 film) article. It was one of my favorite movies when I was growing up. Aoba47 (talk) 02:09, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

@Aoba47: Thank you so much! It was a lot of fun (and work) to work on, but I'm feeling pretty good about it; it is also one of my favourite childhood movies. And congrats to you on the Beautician article!--Changedforbetter (talk) 05:59, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

I know, but...

I know you don't want to edit "Colors of the Wind" but I have nominated it for GA and would appreciate it if you reviewed it (it's not long and won't take you much time).MagicatthemovieS (talk) 16:28, 24 August 2018 (UTC)MagicatthemovieS

DOAXVV Fiona

Okay, fair enough, and I'll let you remove the youmay thing, but I will note that her official in-game bio, or at least the one provided by Famitsu, specifically lists as her occupation "Princess". I'd know because, aside from various video game journalist sites reporting on it, I myself translated the bio to get that information. Heck, I'll even post the biographical information for Fiona to prove it:

恋するプリンセス
フィオデ
（声：本渡楓）（ほんどす、かえで）
プ[。]フィーレ
年齢：18歳
身長：152センチ
スリーサイズ：B88、W55、H84
血液型：O型
職業：プリンセス
趣味：社交ダンス
好きなもの：フォンダンショコラ、ハーブティ
好きな色：ウィステリア
誕生日：2月11日

Translation: Princess Lover
Fiona
(voice: Hondo Kaede)
Group The fee (?)
Age: 18 years
Height: 152 cm
Three sizes: B88, W55, H84
Blood Type O
Occupation: Princess
Hobbies: Ballroom Dancing
Favorite: Fondant Chocolat, Herb tea
Favorite Color: Wisteria
Date of birth: February 11

And here's where the information came from: https://sta.sh/01nzpxrsbiin also here: https://www.dualshockers.com/dead-alive-xtreme-venus-vacation-fiona/

So yeah, canonically, she's a princess. Just an FYI. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 19:48, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

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Hi there, I'm just checking in with you on this since it has been a week since I placed the article on hold. If you are still working through the points I made at the review page then that is fine, as long as you let me know that you are still on top of it. If you have finished responding to my points then also just let me know and I will be able to go through and see what state the article is in. - adamstom97 (talk) 00:10, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Adamstom.97 Hi there! Thanks for checking in. Yes, I'm definitely still working on your points for the "Cinderella" article. Unfortunately it's taking me a little longer than it normally would because, due to some bad timing, I've been without a proper computer for a few days now which has been delaying my progress. I'm hoping to have all of your points addressed by the middle of this week; thank you sooo much for your patience in the meantime! :-)--Changedforbetter (talk) 21:55, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

No worries, just let me know when you're ready for me to have another look. - adamstom97 (talk) 00:11, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

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Hello

Hello again. It has been a while since I messaged you, and I just wanted to check in to see how you are doing. I am still inspired by your work on here, and I look forward to your future projects. Hope you are doing well. Aoba47 (talk) 08:32, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Aoba47 Hello, my friend! It's very nice to hear from you and I'm happy to see that you are active on Wikipedia once again; I hope you're doing better in both your personal and work lives. You are just as much an inspiration to me as I apparently am to you! I've been taking bit of a break from editing myself. I'm still active as you can see, but I've been mostly working on past articles that I've already created and gotten promoted to GA, trying to improve upon them since they've kind of been neglected. I'll keep following your projects as usual. All the best --Changedforbetter (talk) 21:11, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

• Thank you. I think that is it is always important to know when to step back from editing to taking time from yourself. I am glad that you are doing well! Aoba47 (talk) 22:45, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

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The Princess Diaries (film)

Hello there, Changedforbetter. How's everything going with you? Good I hope. I happened to notice you have nominated this film for GA. I was hoping if I could take up the review if that's alright with you. Do let me know about it by pinging me. Thanks.  — Ssven2 ^{Looking at you, kid} 10:14, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

Ssven2 Please, by all means! Thanks for taking an interest. The review is yours; I look forward to your comments.--Changedforbetter (talk) 13:53, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

I've listed some initial comments until the "Further Writing" sub-section. Overall, very nice work on this film so far.  — Ssven2 ^{Looking at you, kid} 16:37, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Posted some more comments, FYI.  — Ssven2 ^{Looking at you, kid} 15:39, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

I've made one small query on the last comment in case you didn't notice.  — Ssven2 ^{Looking at you, kid} 16:48, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

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A proposal and a favour

The Princess Diaries is now a GA. Congratulations! I just have a small proposal to put to ye. How about you and me collaborate on a film article (A disney one). The choice of the article will be yours (Make it any one of the older film articles coz I'm a sucker for Disney films before Lilo and Stitch). Do let me know if you agree to it by pinging me. Thank you.  — Ssven2 ^{Looking at you, kid} 08:22, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

This sounds doable! I rarely opt for collaborations (I tend to get a little possessive about the articles I take on lol), but in my opinion having you as a collaborator can only prove to be an asset. Not sure when I'll be taking on another Disney film article, but should I start one I'll ping you to see if it interests you Ssven2.--Changedforbetter (talk) 16:51, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you very much for that Brownie. Yes, if you are planning on any Disney film article, let me be the first to know lol. Personally, I've always wanted to work on Lady and the Tramp or Lilo & Stitch (both are my all-time favourites), but as I said, it is your call.  — Ssven2 ^{Looking at you, kid} 16:56, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

And now the favour (QPQ). I was hoping you could give a thorough set of comments at my latest attempt at FA. The article is a 2003 Bollywood film, Kal Ho Naa Ho starring Shah Rukh Khan. The link for the Peer Review is right here. Do let me know if you are planning to give the article a good look and provide some constructive comments by pinging me. Thank you.  — Ssven2 ^{Looking at you, kid} 11:24, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

I tend to avoid the FA nomination process in general because I find the process can get stressful and overwhelming, but I'll take a look if I have time (I might be taking a short break from Wikipedia for a while; I just got two Good Articles promoted within a day of each other. While working on Diaries, I was simultaneously responding to comments for So Close's GA nomination haha). Ssven2

Thank you. No worries man, you can take your time to post comments at the Peer review.  — Ssven2 ^{Looking at you, kid} 16:56, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you!!

Thank you for getting When she loved me up to GA status. I created the article but never found time to make it a high quality article. I am very grateful that you took the time and effort to greatly improve the article. I greatly appreciate all your hard work. Best, Remember (talk) 18:36, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Remember Thank you so much for your kind words! I'm glad to hear that you're happy with what I've done with the article; thank you for creating it in the first place!--Changedforbetter (talk) 20:51, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

You're welcome! Remember (talk) 23:22, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

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Awesome job with the above article! It is a really fun and fascinating read. I remember in some late night interview that Kudrow joked there could be a whole Friends musical with Phoebe singing. I know that is only a joke, but I would honestly like to see how that would work lol. You definitely keep me inspired. I will have to work on something Friends-related in the future now lol. Aoba47 (talk) 19:55, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Aoba47 Hi there! Thank you for your kind words, as well as for the little edits you've been making here and there (they don't go unnoticed). There are definitely lots of Friends articles that could do with a revamp; character or episode articles might be a good place to start, if you're interested :-)--Changedforbetter (talk) 14:49, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

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Hello again, and thoughts on The Little Mermaid remake?

Hello again! Apologies for the super random message lol. I hope you are having an excellent week so far. Since you have worked on several Disney-related articles in the past, I was curious on your opinion on all the casting news regarding the live-action The Little Mermaid film. I am personally not a fan of the live-action remakes; I do not hate them, but I am just not their target audience. Although, I did see Cinderella, which I really enjoyed, and Beauty and the Beast, which I thought was good.

I thought Halle Bailey was an awesome choice for Ariel, but I was very disappointed by Melissa McCarthy being cast as Ursula. I like McCarthy, but the Disney villains (like Ursula) are always my favorite part of the films and I have my doubts on whether or not McCarthy could do justice to the character. There was also a lot recent news about Harry Styles passing on the role of Prince Eric.

Hearing all of this news made me think of you, and I was honestly curious about your opinion. I kind of wish they would do live-action remakes on the more obscure Disney titles, such as Treasure Planet, Atlantis: The Lost Empire, or The Emperor's New Groove (one of my personal favorites), but I can understand why the company would go for the more bankable choices in the Disney Renaissance. With all of these musical adaptations, I just wish that the film version of Wicked was already out or at least a casting announcement lol. Apologies for the long rambling message; I did not meant for it to be so long lol. Aoba47 (talk) 19:51, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

Aoba47 Hi there! It's nice to hear from you; I hope you're well. Much like yourself, I'm very ambivalent towards Disney's live-action remake phenomenon, and similarly found Cinderella and Beauty and the Beast to be only remotely watchable at best (the former more-so than the latter, but that's probably because the original Beauty is my favourite animated film of all-time and I probably viewed it through a more critical lense).

Regarding Mermaid..."meh" haha. I'm in love with the idea of Ariel being a woman of colour (I was a staunch advocate for her on social media when her casting was met with racist backlash), and I think Halle will do great (at least she can sing circles around Emma Watson, obviously). I love Melissa McCarthy as much as the next person, and although I'm sure she'll make a funny Ursula, I fear she lacks the "gravitas", camp and theatricality another actress could bring to the role (Glenn Close, Bette Midler, Bernadette Peters, Jenifer Lewis come to mind). I was really hoping Disney would cast a drag queen as Ursula, Ginger Minj for example, in homage to Divine, on whom the character was originally based. But the prospect of the adaptation itself...both worries and excites me. Much like the animated version, setting an entire film underwater is an opportunity for boundless creativity, and Disney could either use this to great effect to enhance pre-existing stories and characters (Cinderella), or play it safe (Beauty and the Beast), but preferably the former. I'd love to know who's playing Sebastian though!

Of all the Disney remakes, I found The Lion King to be the most disappointing thus far. It's not a horrible film (none of the remakes are, to be honest), but taking one of the most acclaimed, dynamic and beautiful films ever made and watering it down into a shadow of itself with flat line readings and neary a hint of originality was a dagger to the heart. I found the issue to be that, despite being animated, Lion is actually quite a grounded, realistic story in comparison to the others, lacking the fantastical elements of the rest of Disney's animated catalog, save for Mufasa's appearance in the clouds. So by removing these few magical elements in favour of hyper-realistic animals void of human emotion, the film simply becomes a nature documentary (a problem even Aladdin, corny as it was, managed to avoid) un-captivating to watch, and not even enough changes to make it worth the price of admission (Nala's characterization was a huge disappointment for me).

I love your idea of Disney re-making some of their lesser-known titles, although honestly at this point I long for them to release something new, or with a "twist" (Mermaid from Ursula's perspective) and preferably fully animated. Not sure how much more of humans standing against green screens and CGI backgrounds I can take lol.--Changedforbetter (talk) 01:53, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

I felt the same way. I actually quite enjoyed how romantic and how much time was given to the Cinderella ball dance scene, but I am a hopeless romantic in that way lol. I had much higher expectations for Beauty and the Beast, particularly because I really like Emma Watson, and it was mostly a letdown. I think Watson would have been a better fir for that cancelled Guillermo del Toro version of Beauty and the Beast. These live-action remakes appear to be Disney's way of getting plenty of cash to support its new streaming service and its crop of new (and probably expensive) shows. And they are certainly making bank lol.

Emma Watson (and Emma-tune) simply doesn't lend herself well to a musical, but if Beauty had been staged as a serious period drama, she may have fared much better, which is a shame because she is by far the weakest singer among the cast. "Making bank" is an understatement haha; The Lion King 2019 is now the highest-grossing "animated" film of all time, leaving a trail of far superior animated films in its dust unfortunately.--Changedforbetter (talk) 03:56, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

It is hard to beat the Disney machine for sure. All of the live-action remakes are making tons of money, but that does not necessarily make them good. I honestly was only interested in The Beauty and the Beast movie because of Emma Watson's casting, and unfortunately, she was not particularly great in the film. Not everyone is made to be for musicals. I think Watson was only chosen for the stunt casting (which worked to get me into a theater lol) and she was already tied to a Beauty and the Beast property. I think focusing on more dramatic fare would have been a better choice for her career though, which seems to have stalled as of late. Aoba47 (talk) 10:01, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

I shouldn't be surprised by the backlash against Halle Bailey, but I was still very disappointed. I love Melissa McCarthy too, particularly in Gilmore Girls, and she showed range in Can You Ever Forgive Me?; I am just uncertain that McCarthy's style of humor fits with Ursula as a character. I would have more confidence in this casting if a better director was at the helm of the film, but Rob Marshall has not made a great film in a while. I had a feeling that they would not choose a drag queen because it would probably hurt the film's international box office. I would have loved Ginger Minj and I saw a lot of support for Titus Burgess to play the role. Even if they felt like they had to cast a woman, there are so many better options. I feel Queen Latifah would be a perfect fit, though I am 100% here for all of your choices. Glenn Close would slay it!

I believe Queen Latifah has been cast as Ursula in a live television version of Mermaid. When I found this out I was like...why didn't Disney think of casting her in the remake???--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:02, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

I would not be surprised if Disney wanted to go with a very racially diverse cast (a la Cinderella (1997 film)). With all of the casting news on Harry Styles, it seems they wanted a white actor for the Prince. If they made all of the underwater characters (i.e. casting Latifah), then it would look rather questionable to have a black mermaid leave her home for a white prince. I would not imagine that would be received well, particularly given how reactive social media is (for better and for worse). For me, Latifah already proven that she would be the best fit for Ursula with her Chicago performance and this photo shoot alone lol. But I was never a fan of the live action stuff so I am probably the worst person to test on what is working or not lol. I hope I do not sound too negative lol. Aoba47 (talk) 10:01, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

I never thought of it that way, but you're right haha. Unfortunately having a majority POC cast underwater might illicit a negative response from viewers in these sensitive times. I'm not sure how I feel about Harry Styles as Eric (this might come off as unfair on my part, but it seems like casting a heartthrob like him is simply a way to get more teenage fans into theatre seats), and thought perhaps Timothee Chalamet would have been a better choice if they wanted to go with a younger, more "boyish" actor, or Jordan Fisher. My one wish for whomever plays Ursula is that she still be terrifying, even in live-action, something I think McCarthy might struggle to bring to the table. Hopefully they don't rely solely on her comedic abilities, although she DOES have a decent singing voice (she duetted with Barbra Streisand on an album).--Changedforbetter (talk) 22:15, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

I only thought of it because I saw a video of someone saying it lol. It was not a conclusion I would jump to, but once it was pointed out, I could see a problem, particularly with Twitter. And that is a real shame tbh. I agree that Harry Styles would have been cast to draw an audience for sure. I think either Timothee or Jordan would be an excellent fit. It would be nice if they expanded on Eric as a character; he is perfectly nice in the original movie, but was a little flat (at least to me). I completely forgot about McCarthy's feature with Streisand. The behind-the-scene video of their duet was really cute, and she does have a cute voice. Maybe she will surprise us; her performance in Can You Ever Forgive Me? showed that she can play something more dramatically so I would hope the director guides her to give a more layer performance because the evilness and terrifying parts of the character definitely need to be there. I genuinely like McCarthy, so I would be really happy for her if she hit this one out of the park (or I should say the ocean lol). I would also be interested to see who they cast for the sisters and King Triton. Aoba47 (talk) 23:46, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Eric is from around that time before Disney princes had much personality, so it would be great to see if Disney will develop him into a fully-realized, rounded character. The same can be said for Ursula, actually...although she clearly detests Triton and merpeople in general, the original film never quite touches upon the true source of her hatred and bitterness (although the Broadway musical re-introduced the idea of Ursula and Triton being siblings, which was originally intended for the film.--Changedforbetter (talk) 16:29, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

I wouldn't be surprised if they put Ursula and Triton as siblings in the remake. I could see that being a fun angle and Disney would market it as paying homage to the ideas for the original. I think Eric is a likable enough character, but I am sure we will get more from him in the remake. Considering that Harry Styles was the person Disney wanted for the role, I could see him having a song or a bigger singing part. Aoba47 (talk) 20:28, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

I saw someone recommend RuPaul for Sebastian, and I would love that. RuPaul is already legendary for his voice, and I would love to see his version of "Under the Sea". There is a lot that could be done with the movie as proven by the stage adaptation. I would love it if they used "I Want the Good Times Back" for the film, but they have never used stage material before so that is unlikely.

RuPaul would definitely be an interesting "take" on the character, but one thing I always loved about Sebastian is his Jamaican accent (as a Caribbean-raised person myself), so my personal choice would be someone who could at least replicate the accent, otherwise it might throw off the whole Calypso-vibe of some of the songs. Another idea I have is Disney releasing filmed, audience-attended, quality performances of their stage musical adaptions for limited times in theatres; it would be a good way to "revive" Beauty and the Beast, which closed on Broadway in 2007/2008 I think, or Mermaid, whose run on Broadway was underwhelming to say the least.--Changedforbetter (talk) 22:15, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

It would make the most sense to hire an actor either from the Caribbean or from a strong Caribbean background. I think that would be the best choice for them. I would love to see filmed performances of this stage musicals; maybe it could be like something similar to what they did for The Phantom of the Opera at the Royal Albert Hall. Aoba47 (talk) 10:01, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Right, or like the concert versions of Les Mis.--Changedforbetter (talk) 22:15, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

They were both awesome! Maybe one day they will do it because Disney does have a very rich Broadway history (as we both already know lol). I would love to see some of the original Little Mermaid cast reprise their roles for the stage, but Sierra Boggess is probably considered too old for the part now (though I think she is still fabulous), and Sherie Rene Scott looked like she had fun with Ursula. Aoba47 (talk) 23:46, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Seeing Sierra return would definitely be a treat, but it would also be a chance to show off some newer singing and acting talent (although I don't think anyone could play Sebastian except Titus haha). Actually, I just found out that Disney is actually working on reviving Beauty and the Beast for Broadway, which would be amazing! --Changedforbetter (talk) 16:21, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

That is great news! It seems like the perfect time to revive it, and I would love to see who they cast. There are so many great options for all of the roles. The Terrence Mann/Susan Egan picture in the article gives me all of the feels! lol Titus is definitely the definitive Sebastian lol. Aoba47 (talk) 20:28, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

And that is really cool that you were raised in the Caribbean! Aoba47 (talk) 10:03, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

I love Aladdin (I was obsessed with all three movies and the TV show when I was younger), but the genie CGI put me off. Something about the CGI in The Lion King also just looked silly to me, particularly when I saw the animals speak in the trailer. Hopefully, Disney has something original coming down the pipeline soon. For some reason, I am not excited about Frozen 2, even though I enjoyed the original. I have a very unpopular opinion, but I am not sure if I am a fan of Lin-Manuel Miranda. I was actually not impressed by Moana (probably had too high expectations), but I should check out his other stuff before I form a concrete opinion either way. Anyway, yet another long response from me. I have a tendency to ramble lol. I hope you are doing well too! Aoba47 (talk) 02:24, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Weirdly, Will Smith's Genie was actually one of the best parts about Aladdin, second to Naomi Scott's Jasmine. But generally the CGI gave me cheap TV movie vibes, as well as some of the jokes and attempts at humor. In my opinion, the trailers of Frozen 2 seem like Disney is trying to turn the franchise into a new MCU, with all those jarring chase/action scenes and dramatic editing, which is never what the film was intended to be about. As for Moana, I really thought I was the only one who found it overrated! Aoba47 --Changedforbetter (talk) 03:56, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

I can see Will Smith doing a great job, and I respect him for taking on a role that is considered so iconic for another actor. My issue was not with the casting, but with the CGI which is a running issue I have with these live-action remakes. Frozen 2 is 100% a reaction to the popularity of the MCU films. On one hand, I get it because it is important to adapt to new trends. However, I think this idea would have worked more organically in a new film altogether. I am guessing Disney just wants to use the pre-existing Frozen fanbase rather than try something completely new because their previous turn for more action-based films over musicals did not do as well financially (I love Atlantis and Treasure Planet, but their box offices were not that great unfortunately). I have only seen the first half of Moana, and I just never cared to finish it. I thought I was the only person who did not enjoy it too lol. I just did not particularly enjoy the songs and I thought the plot had a weird pacing. Maybe it's because I went into it with such high expectations. I do not mean to sound too negative, because it may just not be for me. Aoba47 (talk) 09:43, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Also I just wanted to say you have done awesome work with the Megara (Disney character) article. She has always been one of my favorite Disney characters. Aoba47 (talk) 10:04, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

You're exactly right. I feel like Disney is almost sleepwalking through Frozen 2, thinking to themselves that no matter what they do with it people will flock to see it in droves because the first one was such a juggernaut. I don't think I've ever seen Treasure Planet, but I definitely wore out Atlantis back when I had it on VHS haha; such an interesting, innovative film that audiences just didn't understand back in the day. Thanks a lot! I've wanted to create an article for Meg for a long time now, but was constantly arguing with myself over whether or not she is considered "notable". Finally I just decided to go for it, and sure enough the internet is laden with articles entirely devoted to her and her development process, so I figured why not (she's also one of my favourite characters, and totally underrated).Aoba47--Changedforbetter (talk) 22:15, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

I really enjoyed Treasure Planet; it had its flaws and quirks, but I appreciated how Disney was trying for something new and the space twist on Treasure Island was fun. I would suggest the film just how awesomely space is animated. If you ever see it, let me know what you think. Makes me want to re-watch it myself lol. I absolutely loved Atlantis; a part of me always identified with Milo because I was a complete nerd like him growing up lol. And I even ended up studying linguistics in college like him lol. I just made that connection now. And the entire cast (I have a soft spot for Kida and Helga) is just gold. And that is awesome! I can definitely see why you would go back and forth because Hercules was not as major as the earlier films. I will be interested to read the article once you are through! It definitely inspires me to work on a character article again. I would love to rewrite the Anya (Anastasia) (non-Disney but I still love that movie) or create an article for Yzma when I have time in the future. I always enjoyed the female characters the most for some reason lol. Aoba47 (talk) 23:46, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

I'll definitely check out Treasure Planet, when I have a moment. I just took a look at the main voice cast; it's amazing!!! I used to listen to the song "Where the Dream Takes You" from Atlantis on repeat, because I found it so inspiring, and it's so interesting that you ended up studying linguistics just like him! No wonder you're so good at writing haha. Both Anastasia and her character article could definitely do with a re-write; should you ever take either of them (or Yzma) on, I'd definitely like to know. Also sorry about the late response...it's been a busy week.--Changedforbetter (talk) 16:21, 18 August 2019 (UTC) Aoba47

The voice cast is pretty awesome in that movie. I loved "Where the Dream Takes You" too, but I was also really into Mya's career at that point. And thank you for the compliment. I could still grow as a writer, but I really appreciate that! And no worries. I have been pretty busy myself so I completely understand. Good luck with everything keeping you busy! Aoba47 (talk) 20:28, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

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Frozen 2/Raya and the Last Dragon

Hello again! I hope you are having a great December so far. I was just curious about your thoughts on Frozen 2? I have yet to see it myself, although the animation is very impressive and the Samantha scene made me laugh. I think we talked about this before about how I enjoyed Frozen, but was never a huge fan of it as much as other people. Also, what are your thoughts on Raya and the Last Dragon? I am a fan of Awkwafina, but I am pretty meh about the film so far. Although, it is far too early to form a real opinion about it lol. Maybe, my lack of interest comes from how there have been quite a bit of fictional dragons lately, like the How to Train Your Dragon franchise, that this already feels kind of like well-trodden territory to me. Sorry for the very random message lol. Aoba47 (talk) 23:08, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Aoba47Hi there! Sorry about the delayed response; it's been a busy week for me. I haven't seen Frozen 2 yet either; much like yourself, I liked the first film for what it was: an aesthetically pleasing romp with good music, but overall fell somewhere between Hercules and Mulan in terms of actual quality. Although grateful that it essentially reignited public interest in Disney, I wasn't in love with it and don't think I've watched it more than twice. It may be an unfair assumption to make, but no matter how cleverly they market the sequel – even if it turns out to be brilliant, by some miracle – I have a hard time finding its purpose absolutely necessary and still see it as a cash grab (much like the live-action remakes and Toy Story 4, which I felt sort of "meh" about upon watching). However, I will agree that the animation is among the best I've seen in a long time...absolutely gob-smacking. It's crazy how far the technology has advanced in six years, and to eagle-eyed viewers the first film looks almost rudimentary in comparison. Thus, I've found myself more-so reading up and watching little documentaries about its production than being interested in the actual film itself. I don't know much about Raya and the Last Dragon, but at the very least I'm grateful that Disney is actually releasing a film that isn't a sequel, remake or superhero film for once lol.--Changedforbetter (talk) 23:56, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

• No worries. I hope your week has been a good type of busy without nothing too stressful or negative. I actually saw Frozen II a few days ago. I had originally planned on seeing Last Christmas, but the twist killed my interest in it, and the 3-D version of Frozen II happened to be playing at the same time. I actually really enjoyed it for its character development and songs. I agree the recent wave of live-action remakes and unnecessary sequels, like Toy Story 4, seem like cash grabs, but Frozen II seemed to have more heart by comparison. Maybe I am just getting soft lol. With that being said though, there should not be any additional sequels to the Frozen franchise, and the attention should be placed in the original animated features. I am far more interested in Raya and the Last Dragon than the news on the Mulan and The Little Mermaid live-action remakes lol. I am thrilled to see Disney move forward with something original, and according to this source, there are four original ideas being developed so there seems to be some positive things in the works. Makes me think back to the days that I wanted to work as a writer or animator for Disney. That is probably why I am still invested in their animated features lol. Aoba47 (talk) 01:24, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

Aoba47 It's actually been pretty stressful (work related), but it's all good. Glad to hear you enjoyed Frozen II! That means there's probably hope for me to like it too haha (I have been listening to "Into the Unknown" pretty much non-stop since the soundtrack was released but still have yet to see the film). That's also really good about Disney's plans on releasing original material, although I must admit I'll probably see the new Mulan as soon as it comes out aha (probably mostly out of curiosity and love for the original). Omg I've also always wanted to be a writer, particularly for Disney! I have a bunch of unfinished stories I've been working on haha, so cool we have that in common.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:33, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

I am sorry to hear that. I will send positive vibes your way lol. I have been non-stop listening to "Into the Unknown" and "Show Yourself" (my personal favorite) since they make a complete story together. Let me know what you think of the Mulan remake when the time comes. The original is my all-time favorite Disney movie so I would be interested in hearing your response. I am still on the fence about it. It will be interesting to see how the upcoming original features go through development as there is just so much unproduced content from Disney. I used to imagine how certain books could be adapted into Disney movies, and how the music would work out. For one example, I thought Goddess of Yesterday could be cool because it was about the Trojan War and Greek/Roman mythology and had an interesting female character. Oddly enough, I never really thought of any 100% original ideas for Disney films, but that is probably because so many Disney films are adaptions of something out there. We definitely should compare notes sometime. I would love to hear about your ideas. It inspires me to continue writing. Aoba47 (talk) 05:43, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

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Rufus (Kim Possible)

Awesome work as always with the Rufus (Kim Possible) article! Aoba47 (talk) 00:38, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

Aoba47 Thanks a bunch :-)! I had some reservations about creating the article because Rufus isn't particularly the most well-known character, but figured I should just go for it and see what happens; was surprised to come across as much information as I did.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:40, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

I understand that. You have done an excellent job finding sources. Honestly I would not have imagined the character could support a separate article, but your work convinced me otherwise. It is a pleasant surprise to find more coverage than you had anticipated while doing research. On a similar note, I was thinking about writing an article for the character Chardonnay Pitts to go with the one I did for Melanie Barnett (since they are both from the same show) and because I used to really follow the actress's (Brandy Norwood) career. Maybe, I will get to it when I am less busy with off-Wiki work lol. Good luck with the Rufus article, and let me know if there is anything I can do to help! Aoba47 (talk) 05:05, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

Aoba47I remember being similarly impressed by your Melanie Barnett article, which I believe is one of the first articles of yours I ever came across. I didn't even know Brandy was on The Game (admittedly I've never watched the show, but I'm a huge Brandy fan). Looking forward to seeing the results of that, if you choose to pursue it.--Changedforbetter (talk) 18:58, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

I will let you know if I ever work on it in the future. I would love to see Brandy do more acting as I think she is quite underrated in that area. I think it was pretty fun and silly that The Game producers named Brandy's character after another type of alcohol (Chardonnay). It made me more interesting in researching in reading more about the character lol. Aoba47 (talk) 21:42, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

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Haha thank you so much! Female Disney characters is definitely a passion of mine; I'll be addressing your review over the next few days OnePt618.--Changedforbetter (talk) 21:37, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

I'd love to read your take on EVE (from WALL-E) -- I'm convinced there's a lot to analyze in the complex relationship between those two. EVE's name, and physical form (as an egg no less!) can probably fill several pages! Maybe this gets into the realm of original research, but if you ever write about it, I'd love to see a link to a blog or somesuch from a great writer like you! ---- φ OnePt618^Talk φ 21:43, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Note: I've left three more comments to you on the GA Talk:Megara (Disney character) discussion page. We might be traipsing into pedantic territory, but since we are trying to fix these problematic words, we might as well fix them properly. :) Please let me know if any of these comments don't make sense; I've linked to the policy articles as appropriate. We're almost there! -- φ OnePt618^Talk φ 01:04, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

OnePt618 Thanks for your patience! I've taken another stab at your comments, and think I've gotten it this time.--Changedforbetter (talk) 02:14, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Another barnstar for your amazing work!

		Goddess Barnstar
		Amazing work in raising the prominence and visibility of female Disney characters. These characters are often forgotten, but their cumulative impact should be recognized. Your work goes a long way towards this end. Fantastic job! ---- φ OnePt618Talk φ 20:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Megara (Disney character)

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Changedforbetter, are you going to nominate this article for DYK? There are 5 days left to do so, since recently-minted GA articles get a shot at it. I especially like the angle that the producers thought Egan/Belle was wrong for the character, when in fact Egan was acting more with Belle! Let me know if you want to bounce some ideas here. -- φ OnePt618^Talk φ 20:21, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

OnePt618 I rarely nominate my articles for DYK (not because I'm opposed to it or anything – I usually just forget lol). But sure! Hopefully I have time/don't forget, and the casting dilemma would be my angle as well.--Changedforbetter (talk) 02:42, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Changedforbetter no problem!!! I'm happy to do so as well, but I figured you should have first dibs. :) -- φ OnePt618^Talk φ 02:49, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

OnePt618 Oh by all means, don't stop on my account! Take a stab at it if you're up for it.--Changedforbetter (talk) 03:05, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

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Are you done changing for better?

Do you think you can stop changing now? Heraclitus used to say πάντα ῥεῖ: "everything flows", nothing stays the same. We keep changing every instant of our lives, we never stay the same, no matter how hard we try. We keep growing, we keep thinking, we keep changing our mind by making new experiences and talking to different people. Here I am, trying to talk to you to change yours, possibly for better. You're right, we're never going to see eye to eye on anything if we don't talk about things and exchange opinions. Call me an idealist, but I believe in dialogue and I don't like dictatorships, where one individual decides what must and mustn't be done. Sure, democracy is not the easiest of political systems: it requires you to discuss, to compromise, to give way in order to advance...it can be stressful and frustrating, but I'd rather have this than someone deciding everything for me, believing to be some superior being. I'm pretty sure you think the same. So, do you want to listen to my points, while I listen to yours, so we can both change our minds for better and grow up a little more? Believe it or not, this is actually the best part: "What I love most about rivers is: you can't step in the same river twice". Ninahi8 (talk) 17:08, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Ninahi8 Thankfully I don't have much growing up left to do, especially not in regards to....whatever this is, but I'm going to indulge you one last time, just to say that I did; if you're unable to see the problem with your own edits – a poorly-sourced (fan-made website published on weebly.com????), aesthetically unpleasing, unnecessary and poorly-placed chart with hardly any supporting text or valid argument as why it's so essential to the article apart from you simply wanting it to be there – then I can't help you. For the record, I have no opposition to crediting international/foreign voice talent in articles – Edna Mode, for example, has a cohesive paragraph referencing the character's Italian and French voice actor, with a reputable source. There is just a difference between tasteless and tasteful contributions.--Changedforbetter (talk) 03:13, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

I knew you were a reasonable one. Firstly, one thing I want to reassure you on, as you seem to be very uneasy about it, is this: no, I am not targeting anything or anyone. I’ve been adding this kind of sections for years now on many articles (and since you were asking about big articles, this and this might be good examples). Your GA stuff is just a part of what I’ve been editing, though it’s the only stuff this material has been kicked out from, only by you. No one else ever complained this much about it. I hope this eased your persecution complex. Now, let us start from the point that seems to bother you the most, which is… aesthetics? Really? OK, you decide. Yes, it’s a table, a table like those used for charts and certifications sections in articles about songs, nothing new under sun, right? Besides, these tables are all collapsed exactly for aesthetical reasons: this way, whenever readers are not interested in them, they can leave them collapsed, seeing no "eye-piercing" tables, while if they are, they’ll open them and scroll them to their heart’s content. I can understand that what might not look so neat are ILLMs, those can in fact be removed from the body of the paragraph. As for the sources I use, they are actually very reliable: as you see by taking a look at more specific sections, like those about movie casts, you can see the given sources are usually DVD/BD/Disney+ credits, sometimes even VHS credits (when the movie was redubbed and the old dubbing can only be found on VHS, for instance), other websites about credits, sometimes even dubbing companies involved in those works are directly contacted. Seems reliable to me. And now, my favourite bit: why is it so essential? Well, foreign dubbings of (non) Disney movies have made much ado about quite a lot, lately. We can see for instance how the multi-lingual sequence of “Let it Go” uploaded on Disney’s main YouTube channel channel was so successful to require a second version of it to be released, this time on Disney’s official Vevo channel, showing the voice-actors behind it, and to be available for digital download. But it wasn’t enough! Seeing the growing success of these non-English versions, they even released a complete compilation of all existing versions of the song (42 movie versions + 9 end-credits versions). Was it over? No. After this huge success of international versions, the following Disney princess received a special dubbing dedicated to the movie’s location in a language that was never involved in Disney dubbings: Tahitian. Again, a multi-lingual sequence of “How Far I'll Go” was released on the official Vevo channel, featuring of course Tahitian too. Enough? Of course not. On the wake of the success that this one-time version raised, one year later another one-time special dubbing was made: a Māori version in which many voice-actors from the English cast reprised their roles (e.g. Rachel House and Jemaine Clement). Disney wagered so much on this dubbing that they even released the official soundtrack on their Vevo channel once again. Well, no need to say that it wasn’t yet over. Since the wave of success of these dubbings just wouldn’t stay, the following year yet another special dubbing was released, this time in Hawaiian, obviously with Auliʻi Cravalho reprising her role. Now, let’s move on to the latest big success of these years: Frozen 2. After Disney had to release not one, but three special dubbings for Moana, one after the other, they decided to place their bets on this again, releasing yet another one-time dubbing, this time in Sámi, advertised once again in yet another multi-lingual sequence (only one of the two uploaded…well, guess on which not-so-followed YouTube channel). As it happened for Moana, these international versions were so loved by so many that Disney decided to have a very special performance for their competing song at the Academy Awards: they called nine of these ladies to sing the song in their own languages. Well, these international versions are much in the limelight to be something not so interesting for "English Wikipedia readers", aren't they? But yes, I’ll admit it: this very long list only regards movies made in recent years, but what about older classics? Well, new attention has been brought to them thanks to live action remakes, for instance with yet another multi-lingual sequence (quite many, aren’t they?) of “Hakuna Matata”. But my favourite example is the most recent performance by Liu Yifei of the song “Reflection”… well, not in English. The song is titled “自己” (“Zìjǐ”) and it’s a cover of the Mandarin version of Aguilera’s version of the song, which was originally performed for the animated movie by Coco Lee, who not only sang the end-credits version of the song, but even voiced Mulan in the movie (Taiwanese version, not Chinese). Thanks to this lovely virus, we don’t know yet what the role of this song in the movie will be. Is it only meant for the Chinese market? Is it for everyone? Hope we’ll find out soon enough. I’m sorry it took me so long to make my point, but I swear I tried to keep it short and cut out a lot of stuff. I will go through it if you ask, though. I hope I made my point a bit clearer now. Ninahi8 (talk) 10:19, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello again

Just wanted to drop by and say hello and I hope you are doing well and staying safe with everything going in the world. Aoba47 (talk) 19:20, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

User:Aoba47 Hi there! It's nice to hear from you. It's been going pretty well, all things considered; staying as safe as I can, social distancing, trying to learn new skills from home, etc. I wish I could say quarantine has given me time to work on some creative projects and Wiki articles, but because of my actual job I've been working from home full-time and found myself busier than I've ever been in my life, in terms of work at least; there just aren't enough hours in the day to do it all haha. How are you?--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:53, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

I am glad you are staying safe, and I hope work is going well. I've been doing well. Mostly staying at home and practicing social distance. I've been working on my creative writing portfolio, mostly doing short stories, and I'm trying to jump back into art. Aoba47 (talk) 20:16, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

User:Aoba47 Oh nice! I've been "working" on my writing portfolio for several years now, but so far I've only gotten as far as...the idea to make a creative writing portfolio aha.--Changedforbetter (talk) 01:39, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

I have been feeling the same tbh. I get a lot of anxiety about it actually. I often get stuck in my own head and have doubts about my ability as a writer. Not sure if that makes any sense lol. I am trying to be better about it. I am going to treat writing like a job and really devote a significant amount of my time to it. That probably means Wikipedia will take a back-seat for a while if I could ever stop myself from editing on here for that to happen lol. Aoba47 (talk) 01:50, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

User:Aoba47 Oh yes, that makes total sense to me! It's weird, I use Wikipedia as a way to practice my writing and prose, but in a way at the same time it can also be a huge distraction because I get so caught up in Wiki writing that everything else kind of gets....put on the back burner. I need to take a break too, but it's so difficult aha.--Changedforbetter (talk) 00:32, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

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Hello

Greetings! I see you are famous for writing articles about Disney songs and female characters. I would like to know if there are any other articles planned for us? For example, "Let it Go" or revised articles about Elsa or Anna. AaronSprouse (talk) 10:21, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

AaronSprouse Hi there! Haha thank you for your message; I apologize for the delay in response. I wouldn't say "famous", but I definitely enjoy writing articles about those subjects. I'm not quite sure what's on the horizon for me, but I'm currently focused on completing my GA nomination for "Proud of Your Boy". As for potential upcoming projects, I tend to be drawn towards articles about lesser-known/underrated characters, songs and movies, which is why I don't really see myself tackling characters as incredibly popular as Elsa and Anna. However, I definitely agree that they could do with some revisions.--Changedforbetter (talk) 03:52, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

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Cinderella (1997 film)

Hello again. I am sure you have already heard about this, but I am honestly so happy that Cinderella (1997 film) is available on Disney+. I actually only watch older television shows and movies on that streaming service (and I am sure Disney is not necessarily thrilled about that lol). Now, if only we could get some kind of soundtrack release, whether it be on Spotify or maybe even a physical release to mark one of the anniversaries. I highly, highly doubt that will ever happen, but I would love that lol. Anyway, just wanted to talk to you about that lol. Aoba47 (talk) 03:59, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Aoba47 Hi there! I hope you've been well. You're absolutely right, I've been watching and reading a lot about Cinderella (1997 film) since Disney announced it would be streaming on Disney + (although I pretty much already learned everything I could while writing the Wiki article). If they aren't able to give us an official soundtrack (which would doubtlessly sell millions of copies today based on nostalgia alone), the least they can do is treat us to a live concert version featuring the original cast haha.--Changedforbetter (talk) 03:30, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

As much as I would love a live concert version, I do not think that will ever happen since the absence of Whitney Houston would be sorely missed (and I think it would be a mistake to have anyone replace her as that could get a lot of potential criticism). I hope you are doing well too. I am just trying my best. This is actually one of the few musicals that I love entirely (and I particularly love the song additions to this version) so it does actually inspire me to check out other musicals as well. I know nothing about music (other than how to read music after years of taking band in school) so I would not be qualified to even attempt to write my own musical lol. Aoba47 (talk) 05:52, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

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Justin Suarez lauds

Hello again! I just wanted to thank you for all of your wonderful work on the Justin Suarez article. I have always thought about working on an article about an Ugly Betty character as I love that show. I feel super old just thinking back on watching the first episode with mom way back when it first aired in 2006. Time goes by way way too quickly, but at least there are great memories. Aoba47 (talk) 02:37, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

Aoba47 Hi there! Thank you so much for your kind message. Unlike you, I'm ashamed to say that I only JUST became a fan of Ugly Betty very recently thanks to Disney Plus (of course), as I had never paid much attention to it when it was originally on the air for some reason, but I instantly fell in love with the show and its characters. I guess you can thank Justin for inspiring me to re-write entire articles on Wikipedia again, as I had been feeling quite unmotivated recently. If you ever decide to, I'd love to see what you can do with an Ugly Betty character. Apart from Justin of course, my favourite characters are Amanda, Marc and Wilhelmina (not sure what it says about me that most of my favourite characters are the "villains" lol).--Changedforbetter (talk) 02:46, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

• I was actually not aware of Ugly Betty being on Disney Plus so thank you for letting me know that. Those three are my favorite characters too. If I had to pick just one, it would be Amanda as I find her to be the most consistent throughout the show. There's actually a web series that just focuses on Marc and Amanda. Here is a link to a YouTube playlist if you have not watched them. Vanessa Williams is just perfect as Wilhelmina. The villains always have the most fun lol. I've been feeling quite unmotivated with Wikipedia lately so I can understand that. I am glad that you were able to find a project to reinvigorate your excitement for the site. If I ever work on an Ugly Betty article, I will let you know :) Aoba47 (talk) 02:55, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

• Aoba47 Omg Amanda would definitely be my favourite as well! I think she sort of gets the short end of the stick in terms of character development, but she's just so consistently funny that I don't mind. I had no idea about the Amanda-Mark spin-off; thanks for sharing! I'm kind of torn between wishing that they had continued the show for more seasons or if the fourth season wrapped things up nicely. But I definitely wouldn't mind a reunion/revival of sorts; there was so much more story to tell.--Changedforbetter (talk) 16:25, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

• I also wish Amanda got more character development, but I loved how her relationship with Betty developed over the seasons so at least there's that. The fourth season did a good job with wrapping up everyone's storylines in a nice, clean bow, but I would love to see a limited series about what the characters are up to now. Maybe Betty could come back to New York and we can see how all the characters are doing. Plus, I'd be curious on how they'd handle the Betty/Daniel relationship since the series finale purposefully left that ambiguous. I think one more season is all that is really needed story-wise. Although, I am not sure what the conflict would be, but I'm sure they can think of something lol. As much as I would love a reunion, I'd prefer something scripted if that was a possibility lol. Aoba47 (talk) 18:09, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

• Aoba47 I loved seeing Betty and Amanda's friendship evolve in the latter seasons. I definitely think a scripted fifth season would help give fans some closure, even though it's not like the fourth season left us with many unanswered questions. It would just be nice to see where the main characters are now in their lives (is Marc in a stable relationship? How did Wilhelmina affect Mode as editor-in-chief? Did Amanda pursue her stylist career?). I just nominated the Justin article for GA. Feeling pretty good about this one :)--Changedforbetter (talk) 06:41, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

• Good luck with the GAN! You did awesome work on it and you should be proud of it. I'd be curious on how Mode is handled since the state of print publications has changed so much since the show's original run. I'd wonder if they'd somehow address the current discussions on race/racism in the fashion industry and use that as a way to represent Wilhelmina's role as editor-in-chief. Maybe Betty would come back to do some collaboration with Mode? I hope Marc has a stable relationship (and I'm still bummed about his break-up with Cliff lol), and I wouldn't be surprised if Amanda was shown as a stylist (although something about that ending felt a little disappointing to me for some reason). I just hope that if a mini-series happens that they keep its delightfully campy, yet heartfelt approach and do not go too far in either direction. Aoba47 (talk) 18:17, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

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So, I'm sure you're already aware, but just to make sure, there's one more (very small) issue I've spotted before I can finish the review and pass the article, there really aren't many other problems to be addressed. Uness232 (talk) 19:18, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Uness232Thank you, I've just responded to this. Awaiting verdict.--Changedforbetter (talk) 19:36, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

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Hello again. I just wanted to check in and see how you are doing. I hope you are doing well and staying safe. Sorry for always leaving so many messages on your talk page. Aoba47 (talk) 03:28, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

Aoba47 Hi there, thank you for reaching out! You don't ever have to apologize for leaving messages on my talk page aha (it's not like Wikipedia gives us many alternatives to speaking with members of the community). I appreciate the time you take to check in from now and then. I've been doing well overall; I've taken a bit of a step back from Wikipedia recently, partially because I've been occupied with my job in the "real" world, and partially because I haven't come across an article I've felt compelled to completely overhaul in a while, perhaps not since The Fabulous Baker Boys. How have you been?--Changedforbetter (talk) 15:37, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

• I hope that your job is going well, and great work as always with the article. I completely understand what you mean. I am currently taking a step back from Wikipedia too to focus on other things. There are a lot of articles that I would like to work on, but I'm just finding it more and more difficult to justify to myself the time and energy that those projects would need when I could be spending it on more important things. This may sound super silly, but as I have gotten older, it feels like there is not as much time for everything anymore. I just turned 30 last week so I have been trying to get my life together. Sorry for always rambling lol. Aoba47 (talk) 19:25, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

• Aoba47 That doesn't sound silly to me at all. In fact, I'm pretty much going through the same thing right now and I feel like it's quite natural, almost like I've "outgrown" Wikipedia similar to the manner in which we outgrow childhood toys, habits, movies/TV shows, etc. It could also have something to do with screen exhaustion resulting from the fact that because of the pandemic, a solid 80-90% of my time is now spent in front of a screen non-stop, which isn't necessarily how I want to live... but what can you do, you know? And wow a Happy Belated Birthday to you! Hope you had a good one.--Changedforbetter (talk) 15:12, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

• My birthday was very good. I spent time with my mom, and that's honestly what I wanted the most. I know what you mean. It is perfectly natural to move on from different hobbies. I agree with you on screen exhaustion. I am trying to be better about this. I am still trying to be a writer so that does involve a great deal of time on my laptop, but I am trying to not get caught up in as many random YouTube videos as I have a tendency to fall pretty hard down that rabbit hole.
• I still very much enjoy Wikipedia because it combines two interests that I love (i.e. research and writing) so I will still edit on here, but I will feel more comfortable with doing so once I start making more forward progress with my off-Wiki work. Aoba47 (talk) 19:01, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

• Aoba47 Speaking of interests, I wanted to run an idea by you pertaining to Wikipedia content. You may have noticed that there are some dresses/costumes – be they real-life or fictitious – that are considered to be "notable" enough to warrant a solo Wikipedia article devoted entirely to themself independent of their most famous wearer or designer (think Jennifer Lopez's green dress, Gwyneth Paltrow's pink Oscars dress or Marilyn Monroe's white dress from The Seven Year Itch?). My question is: do you feel like some costumes worn by animated characters might be notable enough to warrant an entire article? For example, Cinderella and Belle's ballgowns, or perhaps even Elsa's ice dress from Frozen?--Changedforbetter (talk) 16:53, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

That is a very good question. Interestingly enough, I've been thinking about doing fashion-related projects on here for some time now, and I'd love to work on one of those articles on an individual dress. For some reason, I have just been more interested in fashion lately. For me, I'd love to create an article on the Letty Lynton dress, which Edith Head called "the single most important influence on fashion in film history". I think that it is possible for some costumes worn by some animated character to be notable enough to warrant an article, but with that being said, I would make sure you have enough sources to prove that there is substantial coverage from third-party, reliable sources (and ideally from a different time periods to show the influence and longevity of the outfit over time).

I am emphasizing this part because I believe that some editors dislike articles on individual garments. For instance, there was an AFD for a dress worn by Reba McEntire. I was able to provide sources showing it was the subject of multiple articles over a wide span of time, and the article was kept (even though the closing editor was unnecessarily snarky about it). However, the article was later deleted in a second AFD, which completely ignored the sources I had provided. And yes, I am still bitter about it lol.

If I had to guess, I would say either Cinderella or Belle's ballgowns would be the best options. There is a lot of information about the behind the scenes creation of these outfits, critical and public reviews of them at the time and since then, and scholarly analysis. I am less certain about Elsa's ice dress, but if you are interested in that particular one, I would still do your research and see where it goes from there. I would just make sure that you have a solid article and a solid argument for editors who may feel that this information is better suited for the character or film articles. Apologies for repeating this point. I just want to make sure you are aware of it, and I do not mean it to discourage you. I'd love to see the article you create for one of these dresses! I would be more than happy to help in any way that I can. Aoba47 (talk) 17:45, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

• Aoba47Thank you for the very in-depth response! I've always enjoyed fashion and clothes, particularly fashion in movies and film (The Devil Wears Prada is one of my favourite movies ever, and two of the character articles I've brought to GA thus far – Rachel Green and Denise Huxtable – are considered to be two of the "best-dressed" characters on television). Thank you for the tips about coverage and sources, as I feel that would be the key to making sure that the article doesn't get contested or deleted (especially after putting so much work into it). I'm sorry to hear you had that experience with Reba's dress, as I remember hearing about that dress causing quite the stir when Reba first wore it, and it's still spoken about today. I think I'm going to take a crack at Belle's dress; I've started a very rough, sparse article in my Sandbox that I'm going to hack away at over the next few weeks and see what becomes of it, which you are welcome to contribute to if you have interest/time. It sounds like you could lend valuable input.--Changedforbetter (talk) 03:24, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

• I'm glad I could help. The Devil Wears Prada is a great film (and I honestly believe Meryl Streep deserved an Oscar for her performance in it). Rachel and Denis both still have pretty fabulous fashions. Belle's dress is a great choice, and you have made a good start with it. It is always rough in the beginning, but a bulk of the article really comes from the revision process. I will be more than happy to contribute to the draft, but I will wait a little bit first so you can continue to build a solid first draft. I am sure you are already aware of this but when Toni Braxton played Belle on Broadway, they changed the dress to be more revealing and sexy. I'd imagine there was coverage on that. I actually really enjoy most variants of this dress, but for some reason, I was pretty disappointed in the 2017 film version of it. It's not bad, but I do not think it has the same impact as the original. Best of luck with the project! Aoba47 (talk) 14:46, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

• Aoba47 I 100% agree that Meryl's performance deserved an Oscar, even though the stand-out in the film for me is Emily Blunt haha. I have heard/read whispers here and there that Toni Braxton's costumes were made "sexier" for her tenure as Belle. However, unfortunately I haven't been able to find any verifiable sources supporting this claim, as much as I would like to incorporate it into the article. Regarding the 2017 version of the dress, I won't mince words: I was 100% underwhelmed by the dress, which seems to be an opinion shared by most of the public. The dress/ballroom sequence was what I was looking forward to most in the remake, and while the ballroom and 99.9% of the costumes delivered, Belle's dress was an enormous disappointment for me and such a missed opportunity to create something fantastic.--Changedforbetter (talk) 02:34, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

• I agree that Emily Blunt was definitely great in that film. She was so funny! I think Meryl Streep did a great job elevating her role, as I could easily see that character being a mess with a different actress. I will look around to see if I can find more information on the Toni Braxton version of the dress. It could be a thing that was only discussed by fans, and not brought up in articles. For something fun, here's a link to an interview that Toni did with Rosie O'Donnell and she did a slight strip-tease around the 4:40 mark lol. I tried to be somewhat diplomatic with my wording for the 2017 version lol, but I completely agree with it. It just missed the mark completely. I have seen some fan designs and costumes that look better. Best of luck with the project! I will make sure to help when I can. This definitely inspires me to work on a fashion-related article in the near future. I am happy to see animation get some love. Just out of curiosity, what are some of your favorite animated fashions? I've always had an attachment to the clothes in Anastasia (1997 film) as they looked just great and managed to be mostly historically accurate at the same time. Aoba47 (talk) 03:06, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

• Aoba47 Meryl brought such nuance to the role that really made Miranda such a compelling villain. I find it so interesting how the older I get, the more and more I sympathize with Miranda as a character (thanks to Meryl; the character could have been completely unsuccessful in the wrong hands). Interestingly, after some digging, I was actually able to find a few (surprisingly legitimate) sources citing the changes made to Braxton's costume, including one from CNN, so thanks for bringing it up! I don't want to hate on Emma Watson, but from everything I've read (and the costume designer's incredible work on literally every other costume in the film), it sounds like the dress could have been absolutely incredible in not for Emma's input.--Changedforbetter (talk) 16:50, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

• I agree completely with you about Meryl. I think one part of what makes The Devil Wears Prada so great is that I get something new and different from every rewatch, especially as I have gotten older. I think that is a sign of a great film. I am glad that you could find some sources for the Braxton version of the dress. I actually liked her in the role. She definitely brings a different energy to Belle, and I can understand why people would dislike that, but I think it was fun and different.
• I also agree with your take on Emma Watson. Her decision to not a corset, etc. was a mistake. I normally adore this costume designer (Jacqueline Durran), and she did such a great job with every other costume. Unfortunately, I think Watson was just miscast for this film. She was initially supposed to star in a Guillermo del Toro version of Beauty and the Beast, which would have more closely followed the original fairy tale, and I believe she was a much better fit for that. However, I believe the Disney live-action remake pretty much sunk the chances for the del Toro version. I also partially blame the people working on the film for following Watson's suggestions rather than putting their foot down and firmly establishing their ideas. I still love Emma Watson, but this film did not do her any favors (other than being in a film that made over one billion dollars lol). Aoba47 (talk) 19:34, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

• Aoba47 You're right, I'm also not a fan of Watson in the role in general, which is ironic considering how perfectly cast she was as Hermione since, in many ways, both characters are very much alike. Belle definitely could have benefited from a stronger singer first and foremost, since her voice is probably the weakest among the main cast, which is just so unfortunate for a lead role in such a prestigious musical film. My personal top choice would have been Emmy Rossum from Shameless, who many people seem to forget is a classically trained singer and most likely wouldn't have objected to a more period-accurate costume, considering her performance as Christine Daae in Phantom. However, I might have been able to forgive Watson if her dress wasn't so unmemorable.--Changedforbetter (talk) 15:00, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

• I love Watson as Hermione. Belle has a lot of similarities with Hermione, and Watson's public persona as a more intellectual person aligns well with both. She is just not a good fit for a musical. She is not a bad singer, and I did not like how they processed her vocals so much in the songs, but there are better casting choices out there. Again, I think Watson would have been perfect for an adaptation of the fairy tale itself, but not the Disney version.
• I love Emmy Rossum (so much love from me lol). I thought she was incredible in Phantom, and I am actually a huge fan of her albums. She might have been a little too old for Belle, but I would have loved that casting regardless. She looks like Belle and has the voice and acting chops to really make it work. I kind of wish they cast a black actress for this role since people like Toni Braxton have set that as a possibility. It would have brought something slightly different to the adaptation
• By the way, I absolutely love the image you chose for the article. It really capture how absolutely beautiful the gown was. It really is an uphill battle to not only recreate the gown, but the entire dance sequence, as it is just so iconic. Beauty and the Beast was the first animated film to be nominated for the Academy Award for Best Picture for a reason lol. Aoba47 (talk) 19:27, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

• Aoba47 I agree that Emmy Rossum is probably significantly older than the character in the animated version, but I think they could have made it work considering the fact that the filmmakers always speak about emphasizing Belle's "maturity". I also would have 100% been behind casting a black actress (or any actress of colour really) as Belle, which is part of the reason (the only reason, really) that I'm looking forward to the live-action remake of The Little Mermaid. Haha I had a little debate with myself over which image I should use for the infobox. Although naturally I thought of using the one from the Belle article, the colour Disney uses to market the character simply doesn't due the original's rich, golden hue any justice, so I opted for a screengrab of her coming down the stairs instead. Glad you approve! The experience of writing this article has actually been quite good so far; it might have something to do with the fact that, unlike film or character articles, the format for a costume/dress article is still so loosely defined. I hope this sets a precedent or something for future articles about famous clothing items.--Changedforbetter (talk) 20:13, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

• An older Belle had potential for sure! I can understand how structure would difficult for this article. As you have said, there is not a lot of high-quality dress articles to pull from. In a way, that's what makes this so exciting. I will brainstorm different ideas and post any ideas I have on here. For instance, I was uncertain if there should be further info on the dress's appearance in the film (i.e. a summary)? Overall though, great work! You have done a lot in such a short amount of time and that deserves to be commended!

• Aoba47As usual, your comments/feedback are always welcome. I get what you mean, but I don't think there is really much else that can be said about the dresses appearance in the original film, but I'll keep brainstorming ways to expand it (maybe a "context" section).--Changedforbetter (talk) 20:09, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

• I see your point and I agree. Further context is probably not necessary and the article already has a summary of when Belle wears the gown. It would be better to keep the focus on the background and reception of the dress. Aoba47 (talk) 20:58, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

• I would encourage you to look for scholarly coverage. Beauty and the Belles: Discourses of Feminism and Femininity in Disneyland and Feminine Empowerment in Disney's Beauty and the Beast are two good examples that I have found. I would use Google Scholar as that is a very helpful resource to find more academic articles and I would experiment with using different search terms.

• Aoba47 Thank you for the links! I have actually started looking for scholarly and Google Books references the past few days; the difficutly with scholarly articles is that most of them seem to require some form of a log in or payment.--Changedforbetter (talk) 20:09, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

• I believe The Wikipedia Library provides access to some of these databases and there is also the WikiProject Resource Exchange. It is annoying and frustrating to deal with pay walls. It makes me recognize all the resources I had access to when I was in college and how I should have been better with that. Aoba47 (talk) 20:58, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

• I prefer the screenshot because it does show the color better, and I think it is far better to show it in its original context rather than in a separate poster or marketing image. I also hope this article inspires other editors to explore and work on fashion topics on here. You have certainly inspired me. I am planning on working on an individual dress article in the near future, and I will let you know when that happens. Aoba47 (talk) 22:55, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

• Aoba47 I look forward to seeing you create/expand a dress article if you ever decide to do so :)--Changedforbetter (talk) 20:09, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

• Thank you :) Sorry for all the posts on your page ><. Aoba47 (talk) 20:58, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

Apologies for cluttering up your talk page so much. I just wanted to say best of luck with the Belle's ball gown GAN. I have tried to work on an article about an individual dress, and after many false starts, I have realized that I'm just not in the right headspace to start a new project as I'm quite busy with off-Wiki things. As always, awesome work! Aoba47 (talk) 02:43, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

• Aoba47 You never need to apologize for checking in :-) Thanks for the best wishes! I'm interested to see how the GA will go since, like I said before, there doesn't seem to be an official criteria yet on how individual dress/clothing articles are evaluated. Just out of curiosity, which dress article did you try to write or were thinking about writing?--Changedforbetter (talk) 13:17, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

• I was going to write an article about the Letty Lynton dress. I found it interesting that this dress had a huge impact on fashion when the movie it appeared in was later made unavailable due to a lawsuit. To give some further context, Edith Head said that this was "single most important influence on fashion in film history", and there's an apocryphal story of 500,000 copies of the dress being sold. I found a lot of great academic sources (and there are a ton of popular sources as well), but I just do not feel comfortable spending the time and energy on this when I have other more pressing off-Wiki matters to attend to first. Maybe one day though! Aoba47 (talk) 19:08, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

• Aoba47 Ah, that does seem interesting! Although I'm a fan of classic Hollywood movies/fashion and some of Joan Crawford's work, I'm a little embarrassed to say that I've actually never heard of the Letty Lynton dress (or seen/heard the film), but a quick internet search does indicate that the garment has had a profound impact on fashion. Perhaps if I was a little more familiar with the piece I would take it on myself, but I'm just not educated enough on the subject. Maybe one day you (or someone else) can return to it in the future. I've been thinking of doing an article on the blue and white checkered dress Judy Garland wears as Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz.--Changedforbetter (talk) 21:08, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

• That's nothing to be embarrassed about. While the dress is well-known amongst fashion and film scholars, I'd imagine that a majority of people are unfamiliar with it now. I only heard about it after seeing this video from a fashion historian who I watch on YouTube. I'd imagine that when people think of Joan Crawford, they either go to Mildred Pierce, What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?, or even Mommie Dearest. I only have a very superficial understanding of the subject, but I'd love to learn more so it would be a fun project to do one day. This is probably super lame, but it just feels too intimidating for me to do right now lol. I'd be interested to see an article on Dorothy's dress from The Wizard of Oz. It is very iconic! If you are interested, there is an article on the ruby slippers. There are a lot of interesting dresses, or even individual garments like Princess Leia's bikini, so I am excited to work on one when I have more time and I feel more comfortable committing that time on here. I will keep you updated of course! Aoba47 (talk) 00:24, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
• You probably already know this, but if you do decide to write an article on Dorothy's dress, I believe it is made from a gingham fabric so that may help with your search for sources. I have only done a brief Google search, and there are plenty of sources out there. Aoba47 (talk) 00:27, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

• (talk) Yes, costumes from the Wizard of Oz have an abundance of articles and sources online, therefore I figured the shoes or the gingham dress would be easy subjects to tackle if I decided to continue down this trend. However, I think I'll at least wait to see how/if my Belle's dress article gets promoted to GA, so that at least that way I would know what GA reviewers are looking for when it comes to high-quality articles about clothing items. Naturally I thought my next article would have been Cinderella's dress from both the Disney animated and live-action films, but I think I would just be too overwhelmed by the sheer volume of sources available (there's an ongoing debate about whether Cinderella's dress is intended to be silver or blue – similar to the gold vs yellow debate about Belle's dress, but much more heated). --Changedforbetter (talk) 15:43, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

@Aoba47 Hi there, it's been a while. Hope you've been keeping well.

Not sure if you noticed, but I just managed to get the Gingham dress of Judy Garland article promoted to GA; I figured I'd let you know because, really an truly, it was your mentioning of the Letty Lynton dress a while back that really and truly inspired me to take on a project like this in the first place. It was a pretty huge undertaking and unlike any article I had done in the past, so I wanted to quickly thank you for that :) Changedforbetter (talk) 17:10, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay in my response. I found out that I had COVID earlier in the week so I have mostly been resting (or trying to) for the past few days. Awesome work with the Judy Garland dress article. It definitely looks like a huge undertaking and you should be proud of all the time and work you have put into it. I appreciate the kind words and I am glad that I could help to inspire you, but all the congratulations should go to you for the work you've done. I hope you are doing well (or at least better than me). Aoba47 (talk) 19:58, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

@Aoba47 Please don't apologize, especially considering what you've been going through (as you can see from my own response time, I am in absolutely no position to judge lol). Very sorry to hear that you caught COVID, something that I have yet to experience myself. I hope it hasn't been too terrible for you. I wish you nothing but comfort and a speedy recovery. Changedforbetter (talk) 06:14, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for the kind words! I am pretty much 100% now except for a stuffy nose and a sore throat. I hope you never get COVID. I was frustrated that I have gone this long without getting it and I still ended up with it lol. I hope you have a great weekend! Aoba47 (talk) 18:36, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Belle's ball gown

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GhostRiverHi there, first of all thank you for getting around to reviewing my GAN so quickly. However, I just wanted to let you know that it could take me a little longer to address all of your comments/revisions – maybe two weeks or so – because I have become quite busy with work. I hope you don't mind!--Changedforbetter (talk) 02:36, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

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Aoba47 Belated Happy Holidays and Happy New Year to you as well! Apologies for the delayed response/acknowledgement. On top of the fact that my job is directly tied to the Holiday Season which resulted in me being very busy off Wikipedia, I just recently regained access to a personal computer after my previous one malfunctioned. Hope you've been well. I was wondering if you've had a chance to see Encanto and, if so, I'm curious about your thoughts on it?--Changedforbetter (talk) 19:26, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

• No need to apologize. I hope that everything with your job is going well and sorry to hear about that your previous computer malfunctioned. I have not seen Encanto yet. The only new movie that I have seen recently was House of Gucci, which I enjoyed even though I agree that it had issues. What did you think of Encanto? I honestly know very little about it. I probably should treat myself and see it as it is still out in theaters in my local area. Aoba47 (talk) 22:36, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

• Aoba47 I actually quite enjoyed Encanto, but I won't say much more about it until you've had a chance to see it yourself, to avoid spoilers. But basically I was pleasantly surprised by how much I liked it (particularly upon second watch; my reaction after watching it the first time was kind of ambivalent).--Changedforbetter (talk) 14:27, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

• I will let you know if I get the chance to see it. I am glad you enjoyed it! Sometimes, it does take a second watch to enjoy a movie. Surprisingly enough, I have stayed away from all spoilers completely by accident. I do not know anything about the movie lol. Aoba47 (talk) 20:46, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

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Good job on Cinderella III: A Twist in Time

Hello fellow Canadian! I just wanted to thank you for all the time you have spent on the Cinderella III: A Twist in Time article. Thanks to your user page, I also found out there is an article on Belle's ball gown. Have a great day! Urbanracer34 (talk) 15:48, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Urbanracer34 Thank you so much!!! :-)--Changedforbetter (talk) 15:55, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Fashion

Hello again. I hope you are doing well. I recently reviewed the FAC for Black Christian Siriano gown of Billy Porter, and it reminded me of our past discussion on fashion articles. Maybe my reviewing experience with this FAC will finally get me off my butt to do a fashion article lol. Aoba47 (talk) 04:24, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Aoba47 Hi there! I've been well, thanks; hope you are as well. I'm glad to hear that you took a stab at a fashion-related article in any form, even if it was just to review it; that's a great first step to take! For me personally, the idea of attempting an outfit worn by a real person is kind of daunting to me, so I would love to see what you come up with if you do decide to tackle one. There are so many options to choose from.--Changedforbetter (talk) 15:59, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

I am glad you are doing well. I agree with you that it is daunting. That's why I had a few false starts on creating an article for the Letty Lynton dress, but, I think it would be a lot of fun. I will let you know when I committed to a project and really made progress with it. I'm thinking about doing either Princess Leia's bikini or her white dress (which I'm surprised does not have an article already), but I'm still thinking about it. I love film so I'd love to a dress that is associated with a movie, but I'm also looking into other options. Lately, I've been revisiting older articles I've brought to the GA level and re-writing them for FACs, and I honestly need to do something new as that process has been somewhat stressful for me ><. Aoba47 (talk) 19:02, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Aoba47 I totally agree that either one of those Princess Leia outfits would be a great place to start (come to think of it, her "cinnamon bun" hairstyle probably deserves an entire article of its own). I've been itching to revisit and improve some of my older GA articles as well. Unfortunately since a lot of the articles I work on, especially older ones, are Disney characters, they tend to be particularly susceptible to vandalism and overzealous fans contributing unnecessary trivial information, which eventually causes their quality to deteriorate overtime. But I just don't have time for that in my life right now.--Changedforbetter (talk) 18:11, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

It would be fun to do a Star Wars outfit. I remember being obsessed with Padmé Amidala's red dress from Star Wars: Episode I – The Phantom Menace, but I'd imagine there's just more out there about Leia's outfits, which I also very much enjoy. I understand what you mean about certain articles attracting a lot of editing activity, and not always in a positive sense. A majority of my work is on very obscure subject matters so fortunately, I've avoid that for the most part. For me, revisiting old GAs has reached a somewhat unhealthy space because I find myself being way too hard on myself and feeling weirdly embarrassed or ashamed about my past work. So, for that reason, that's why I'd like to try something new, but I'd still love to go back to revisit my old GAs on fictional characters in particular when the time is right. I will let you know how it goes. I've not started anything as of yet. Aoba47 (talk) 18:28, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Aoba47 For sure, more recently I've been skewing towards slightly less popular/mainstream articles to try and avoid this dilemma, and naturally I've found the experience to be much more enjoyable; I just finished nominating Cinderella III: A Twist in Time for GA, which I think turned out well (I'm surprised how much coverage I was able to find on it, considering it's a direct-to-video Disney sequel). And we are totally on the same page about revisiting old works; it's not much different than cringing at an old photograph of journal entry haha.--Changedforbetter (talk) 15:07, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Wonderful work with the Cinderella III article. That film probably got more attention because it was one of Disney's last direct-to-video sequels and it seemed to have received a more positive reception than the others so I'd imagine more writers/reviewers were willing to write about and revisit this film because of that. I think I just need to learn to embrace the cringe when looking back on my older work on here lol. Aoba47 (talk) 17:16, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello again. I just wanted to let you know that I decided to work on an article for the Letty Lynton dress. I do have a fondness for old films and I am genuinely looking forward to reading more about it and working on the project. I will be going a lot slower on this one compared to my past work because I am busy with off-Wikipedia life, such as work and my own creative writing, but it should be fun. It would be cool to one day work on the purple Misa Hylton jumpsuit of Lil' Kim, and I'm surprised that one does not already have an article. I even debated on researching more on Betty Suarez's Guadalajara poncho, but while there is academic discussion around it, I'm not sure if it would qualify as notable enough for a separate article. Anyway, just wanted to let you know. Aoba47 (talk) 03:02, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

Apologies for the delayed response. I'm so excited to hear that you've decided to take a stab at a Letty Lynton dress article! Your articles are always top-notch quality so I'm sure you'll have no problem turning out a great one, even if it happens to be your first of this nature. Can't wait to see out it turns out! I've been considering doing an individual article for Yzma from The Emperor's New Groove (one of my favourite Disney movies and villains) but I'm not 100 percent sure yet. Changedforbetter (talk) 15:42, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

No need to apologize. I'm quite busy myself so I can understand the delay. I appreciate the kind words! Best of luck with the Yzma article if you decide to further pursue. I'd imagine that there would be plenty of coverage out there, but I've honestly not done a ton of research on her character aside from more superficial searches. I agree that Yzma is by far one of my favorite Disney characters. I love Eartha Kitt in that role. Aoba47 (talk) 16:45, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

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Checking in

Hey again. I hope you are doing well. I just wanted to stop by and say that I am sorry to see how this review turned out. Aoba47 (talk) 03:20, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

Hello there! I'm doing alright, thanks; and thank you for reaching out about the GA nomination. It's NBD really; I had a feeling going into it that this one would give me a bit of a challenge, considering it is not a particularly popular single a large portion of the sources used for reviews/genres – although reliable, in my books – are from college/university newspaper publications. I probably could have gotten it promoted if I had enough time to devote to almost completely overhauling it.

How're things with you? Changedforbetter (talk) 17:34, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

That is understandable. It is good that you recognized you would not have the time and informed the reviewer. I believe that deserves respect, and I am sure readers will enjoy going through the article regardless.

I am doing well, thank you. I've been trying to get back into my creative writing, but I've been feeling weirdly self-conscious so I'm trying to find a way to relax. I've not written in months as I had a part-time job, but since that is now over, I can fully devote myself to writing. I'm probably just putting too much pressure on myself.

How are things with you? Have any Wikipedia projects in the pipeline? Aoba47 (talk) 19:21, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

@Aoba47 That's good that you've been getting back into creative writing. I wish I had that kind of dedication, but I'm working full-time and whatever energy I have left at the end of the day is usually spent working on my side hustle (an online clothing store I launched a few months ago).

I don't really have any Wikipedia articles immediately on the horizon. I'm a little tuckered out after the last GA nom lol, but maybe in a few weeks' time I'll work on a character article. Those seem to be my strong suit. How about yourself? Changedforbetter (talk) 16:05, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Best of luck with your clothing store! I will send you all the positive vibes for that. I completely understand your point about work. Unfortunately, we do not have the time and energy to devote to everything so it is best to use those for things that make you the happiest overall.

I do have a FAC about a very silly song, but as for the future, I do not have any immediate plans because I would like to devote more time to my own writing. I'll probably go back to a character article. I've been doing a lot of music articles lately so I will take a break from that. I could use my next project to finally get into a fashion topic lol. But, I do not have any immediate plans at the moment. I am in a similar position to you where it's really a matter of timing. Aoba47 (talk) 16:46, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Thank you so much for the well wishes :) Similarly, my last two GA noms have been song articles (one far more successful than the other, evidently), so I figure it's perhaps time to return to my roots, or even revisit some old GA character articles that might have fallen into disrepair due to constant edit wars.

I take it you've decided to postpone the Letty Lynton dress article for now? Changedforbetter (talk) 14:01, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

I have postponed it for now. I started it and got a lot of great research together, but then I got busy with work so I abandoned it. It was honestly a mixture of being somewhat overwhelmed and just not having the time and energy to devote to it at the time. One of these days, I will get back to it, but it is not in my immediate plans. I do enjoy going back to the old GAs I had worked on, but I think in the future, I may try working on new articles as it has been a while since I have done that. Aoba47 (talk) 14:48, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

I don't blame you for postponing the article at all. I've been itching to write another fashion, clothing, or "significant" garment article every since Belle's ball gown, but remembering how much work and effort that took is enough to keep me away from repairing that for now. I even started an article about The Rachel haircut a few months ago, but very soon I started getting the sense that the article would never feel "complete" to me due to the sheet amount of information available on the subject, therefore I've left that alone for now as well. Changedforbetter (talk) 20:38, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

That is understandable. You have done a great job with the Rachel haircut so it is something to be proud of and you could always return to it in the future if you'd like. I always find that a break helps because I can get so caught up in it that it feels overwhelming. Let me know if you ever decide to do a fashion article in the future. I would be curious on the one that you pick next. Would it be another animated/Disney one or a different one altogether? Aoba47 (talk) 20:46, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

It would most likely be another animated character; the issue is finding one that's notable enough or has enough media coverage to warrant its own article separate from the character who wears it (Cinderella's ballgown almost has toooo much coverage and far too many iterations outside of the film. I've also been toying with the idea of doing Cher Horowitz's (Alicia Silverstone's) yellow outfit from the film Clueless, however I don't consider myself a big enough fan of the film itself to stay interested. A more likely candidate would probably be Julia Roberts' red dress from Pretty Woman. Changedforbetter (talk) 18:44, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

I have actually never see Clueless so I really should one of these days. I absolutely love Pretty Woman. I watched it earlier this year and it 100% holds up. I agree that there are very few animated dress that have received the coverage necessary to met the notability requirements but it is still fun even as just an exercise to think about it. I think you brought up Elsa's ice dress and I do see possibilities there. I completely understand avoiding Cinderella's gown. That is intimidating just thinking about it, in a similar vein to Aurora's gown. Aoba47 (talk) 19:37, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

I would say that, if anything, Clueless is probably more revered for its costumes than the quality of the film itself (Mona May has made a name for herself designing costumers for teen movies), but it's definitely a classic. Worth a watch, regardless of how you end up feeling about the movie. I did consider Elsa's ice dress at one point; however, I tend to avoid most topics Frozen-related because the fans can be absolutely rabid. Thanks for reminding me about Aurora's dress! To be honest, I haven't even remembered her until now, even though I had gotten her article to GA a few years back. I guess her dress is pretty iconic because it changes colours, even though the character herself tends to be overlooked most of the time. Maybe I'll consider that one. Changedforbetter (talk) 19:53, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

The Frozen fanbase is certainly something, but I think fandom as a whole is going through a weird moment. Everything just seems really heightened and divisive. I agree that Aurora tends to be over-looked. I have seen a lot of criticism against her for being boring and too much of a damsel, but I still enjoy Sleeping Beauty a great deal and it has some of my favorite art and animation. I think there is a solid argument that Flora, Fauna and Merryweather are really the leads in that film. Your response did make me think about possibly working on an article about a designer. That could be something fun and different. This conversation does give me a lot of ideas for my own art. I keep meaning to get back into it and I've still not done it lol. Aoba47 (talk) 21:34, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

I agree, Sleeping Beauty is definitely one of Disney's most visually beautiful animated films to-date, which I think very few – if any – animated films have come close to matching since. This past weekend I actually purchased what is essentially a "making-of" book about Disney's Cinderella from a local thrift store, completely coincidentally. I haven't had a chance to open/read the book yet, but it's loaded with concept art, and I'm hoping maybe there will be some insight into the design of the dress in there. Happy to hear that you've been opened up to some ideas as to some articles to work on! Changedforbetter (talk) 15:48, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

I love finding cool stuff at thrift stores. I have bought a lot of stuff (probably too much to be honest) from my local Goodwill Industries. There is something about the thrill of the hunt and you can find some truly great items, but it all comes down to timing and luck. I am sure there are plenty of resources in there about it. I have a few ideas but I have not fully settled on anything yet, but we will just see where I end up lol. Thank you for the kind words as always. Aoba47 (talk) 19:28, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

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Hello yet again

Hello there. I hope you are doing well. Apologies for always junking up your talk page with my random check-in messages.

I am currently taking a wikibreak until the end of the month (aside from tending to articles and lists on my watchlist). For future projects, I plan on returning to fictional characters, starting with a rewrite for the Kes (Star Trek) article. One of these days, I will get to a fashion article like I've said multiple times above. I know I keep saying that, and yet I keep going back to music and television articles.

How is everything with you? Have any plans for the future (both off-Wiki and on-Wiki)? Apologies again for leaving so many messages on your talk page. Aoba47 (talk) 02:32, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

@Aoba47 Hi there! Nice to hear from you; I always appreciate you checking in. Hope you've been well, all things considered.

I've been doing alright, although work has been kicking my butt over the last few weeks; should be calming down within the next few weeks or so *fingers crossed*. In terms of Wikipedia, I've been taking a break from writing new or completely overhauling articles, in favor of revisiting some of my old articles that have fallen into disrepair. I did, however, just finish writing Love Power (Disenchanted song), which is currently nominated for GA. Curious to know your thoughts on Disenchanted overall, if you've had a chance to catch it yet. Changedforbetter (talk) 03:06, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

Best of luck with work and I hope that it calms down for you soon. It is important to go back to old articles. That's what I've been mostly doing with my Wikipedia time for a while now. Congrats on the "Love Power" article! I have not seen Disenchanted yet as I do not have a Disney+ account. I used to have a year-long subscription back in 2020 (and I did not realize it had been that long) as a birthday gift from my brother. I think the concept for the sequel is solid, but I must admit that I am underwhelmed by the songs. That could change though whenever I do see the film though as I am sure context matters. What are your thoughts on Disenchanted overall? Aoba47 (talk) 14:42, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

@Aoba47I get that, it's crazy now to think that Disney plus was released before the pandemic.

I actually didn't mind Disenchanted, for what it was; I think most critics have been kind of harsh on it. Obviously it's farrrrr inferior to the original, which is probably one of my favourite post-90s Disney movies, but I thought it definitely had potential if the writers had been a little more clever with the concept and cut the run-time by half an hour or so. Changedforbetter (talk) 02:54, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

It is crazy to think that it's already been roughly three years since the pandemic started. Time can really fly by. I'll still watch Disenchanted in the future, but I am not in a huge rush.

It is tough to do a sequel to a movie that people loved so much and I think there were big expectations for it given how long it was since the original's release. I'll let you know if I ever do watch it. I've only listened to a few of the songs, and while I think they all had a solid concept, they just do not see to have the polish or care other Disney musicals had imo.

Looking forward to any Disney films in the future? I'm the worst with this kind of thing. I have lost touch with what's current, and I am just watching older movies and tv shows lol. Aoba47 (talk) 15:24, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

@Aoba47 Haha that's perfectly reasonable. I've been on a nostalgia trip lately, so I've also been mostly revisiting older Disney animated films, particularly ones from the pre-Renaissance era that I was too young to enjoy/show much interest in when I was younger. As for upcoming Disney movies, the only one I'm really looking forward to seeing is the live-action "Little Mermaid", although the feeling I have towards it is more-so curiosity than actual interest/excitement.

I heard Disney recently announced Toy Story 5 and Frozen 3 are in the works at Disney; not so sure how I feel about these two projects. Changedforbetter (talk) 23:03, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

It seems like the entire film and television industry have been on a nostalgia kick lately. I have completely tapped out of the live-action remakes. I respect the work put into them, but they've never been my cup of tea aside from Cinderella which I really enjoyed. The casting choice for Ariel (Halle Bailey) was a great choice and I could see movie coming out well. I love Melissa McCarthy, but I am still not sold on her as Ursula. As much as I love the original movie (and the fairy tale and the television show), I will probably skip it, but I would still be curious to hear your reaction to it.

I fully rolled my eyes at Toy Story 5. It's just beating a dead horse at this point imo. Toy Story 3 had such a great ending, and I have not seen Toy Story 4 so I cannot comment on that one. If they had to do another story in that world, I'd prefer they do some sort of spin-off or bring in new characters, but after Lightyear bombed, I have a feeling that they will just bring back the same old characters to go for the tried and true formula for success.

I'll probably watch Frozen 3. I am already invested at this point. I did rewatch Frozen 2 recently, and it was fine. I was much more impressed with it on my first watch in theaters tbh. I think there is still a fair bit of story tell in the Frozen world so this one did not irritate me as much as the Toy Story announcement. That being said, I just hope Tiana is good. That's probably the Disney thing I'm looking forward to the most. What are your thoughts btw? Apologies for writing a whole novel on your talk page ><. Aoba47 (talk) 23:16, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

@Aoba47 As much as I like Melissa McCarthy as a comedic actress (her performance in Bridesmaids still tickles me to this day, and "Spy" is one of my favourite movies), I doubt she has the "gravitas" to carry a role as demanding and larger-than-life as Ursula, unless they are taking the character in a completely different direction. I can see them re-writing the character so she's more of the wise-cracking villain type in this version, like Hades from Hercules. Still think Disney should have used the opportunity to cast a drag queen in the role.

I had a similar reaction to the announcement of Toy Story 5. Like, how many times can we officially say goodbye to these characters. Toy Story 3 was the perfect ending and Toy Story 4 was little more than superfluous fluff, although I liked seeing Bo Peep back (even though she is basically a completely different character in this movie). I actually didn't mind Lightyear as a film...although I feel like setting it inside the Toy Story universe was unnecessary, as they had enough material for it to be completely stand-alone considering how many different ways Disney tried to remind us that this isn't the "Buzz" we grew up with. Why not just make a completely original space adventure then?

Frozen 3 just seems to make the most sense out of the sequels announced, because of how much they've expanded the world. I thought 2 was mostly okay but a little convoluted (in the Frozen 2 documentary, they pretty much admit that they had no idea what "the voice" should be pretty much until the production deadline, which definitely shows in the film.

I actually think Melissa McCarthy is a solid dramatic actress when matched with the right director and script. I do see your point about the gravitas though. I don't think we've seen her do a role like that. My primary concern is her singing, and I just do not see her doing "Poor Unfortunate Souls" justice. Unfortunately, I was not surprised Disney did not choose a drag queen for this role, and as bad as this may sound, I immediately knew that would never be a realistic casting option. It sucks because not only would it help to make this remake stand out on its own, but there are so many excellent casting choices out there. I just hope Ursula is done well as she is one of my favorite Disney villains. Hades is great though too. Disney has so many great villains.

I am glad they brought back Bo Peep, but it is a shame that she was just a completely different character. I actually thought the reason for her not being in Toy Story 3 made a lot of sense and added a lot more to the story (in a sadder way though). Growing up, I was a huge fan of Buzz Lightyear of Star Command: The Adventure Begins and Buzz Lightyear of Star Command so I was already predisposed to not want to see Lightyear. I have not seen the movie so I cannot really comment on it, but I do not care for the Zurg twist when reading it out of context (but I just have a soft spot for campy Zurg lol).

I would love to see the documentary so thank you for pointing it out! I agree that it was quite obvious that they had no idea what the voice was going to be in the film. As much as I love "Show Yourself", having the mom appear on screens around Elsa was actually quite creepy. I watched Frozen II with my mom, and she joked that the mom looked like a creepy A.I. and I just cannot unsee that. What do you hope they do with Frozen 3? I'd like to see focus on Anna as a queen and her wedding to Kristoff. It would be nice to see Hans come back to better round out that character, and I'm curious if they explore Elsa's sexuality (and pair her with Honeymaren). I'd love it if they focused on a character called Samantha. That would actually get me hyped for it lol. Aoba47 (talk) 20:56, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

@Aoba47 I might be in the minority here, but I actually don't mind Elsa having no love interest. Yes, homosexuality is severely (and inexplicably) underrepresented in Disney animated films, specifically queer female characters, but asexuality is even more unrepresented in media in general, if you ask me. As cute as it would be for Elsa to end up with another female character, pairing her off with someone at this point in the franchise when she has shown little to no romantic interest prior can come off as pandering if not done carefully and respectfully. I've always liked the idea of Elsa not being interested in romance whatsoever because, personality-wise, she's always struck me as someone who is sort of indifferent towards romantic relationships, which is totally valid. I guess the story can argue that Elsa was trying to learn how to love herself before loving others, but I've always resonated with the idea of perpetually single Elsa lol. I would love to see more of Honeymaren though, but not necessarily in a romantic capacity. Had Disney wanted to introduce an explicitly queer female love story into the main Disney Princess franchise (yes, I know, Elsa technically isn't a "Disney Princess"), I feel like they had (and still have) the perfect opportunity to do so with Raya and Namaari. Or just create a queer female character organically from scratch.

Story-wise, I think Frozen 3 has an opportunity to, for the first time, give Anna an arc/storyline that is more (or at least as) interesting as Elsa's. Due to how Frozen 2 was set up, we never really got an opportunity to see how Elsa was as a leader; we can only assume that she was great and her subjects adored her during her reign. I can see Anna struggling with imposter syndrome and dealing with the fact that, in her mind, she can never be as good a queen as her sister, and learning to use what made her and Elsa different to her advantage. Totally love the idea of "Samantha" being an actual character – perhaps a love interest for Olaf who he didn't know existed aha. Changedforbetter (talk) 20:22, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

I agree with your take on Elsa. In my opinion, she is not presented as queer in any real way in the movies, and this kind of reading seems more like a projection put on her from viewers. I do not mean that in a negative way. I have often shipped characters outside of their canon sexuality, and I think the best part of fandom (whether it be fan fiction, fan art, etc.) is the transformative nature of it all. I more so mentioned it in my response because it is something that is seemingly so often discussed, but I'd prefer the asexual reading as well. I'd rather that they creative queer female characters. I hope they develop Honeymaran and the rest of the Northuldra (especially Ryder) as separate characters. I'd also want to see more of Arendelle in general. I know this was not their intention, but the kingdom and even the palace just seemed really small.

Anna having imposter syndrome seems like the best and most natural progression for character. I could see Kristoff going through a similar experience as after all, he went from being a iceman raised by trolls to a king. As much as I want Anna to get a more developed storyline, I hope the same comes true for Kristoff. I'd love to know more about Elsa's role as queen and I love the idea of Anna's differences and perceived "weaknesses" are in fact her strengths. I just hope they do not give Anna powers lol. As much as I'd love to see Samantha, it may be best to leave it as a joke. They could go more technical and say Samantha was one of Olaf's repressed memories as "water has memory", but that would probably be pushing the joke way too far lol. I really should get around to watching Raya and the Last Dragon btw. Aoba47 (talk) 21:44, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

@Aoba47 Looking back, I'm realizing now that my very ranty response about Elsa's sexuality came off as wayyyyyy more accusatory/defensive than I had intended it to, for which I apologize as that was never my intention. Obviously, everyone is more than welcome to envision Elsa paired off with whomever they choose (except a straight man, God forbid lol; no disrespect but I think we can all agree nobody is asking for that), or with no one at all, which is one of the great joys of shipping culture.

Out of all of Frozen's main characters, Kristoff definitely got the weakest storyline. There isn't anything particularly wrong with him as a character, but watching him struggle to propose to Anna for the total 5 minutes he was in the movie was tedious. I think Kristoff and Anna's engagement/marriage is probably best explored in a lightweight animated short format (think Tangled Ever After), but I don't much care for a feature-length continuation. I think it could be interesting to see Kristoff maybe try to track down any trace of his human family by using the Troll's magic, which perhaps they aren't particularly eager to help with as they feel betrayed. Despite Kristoff's obvious love for Anna, she could start doubting whether she is enough for Kristoff because he longs to know more about his family. Or, Anna could go over Kristoff entirely and seek help from the Trolls herself to find Kristoff's family, which causes a rift between the two about boundaries, which Anna already struggles with throughout the franchise.

My opinion about Raya and the Last Dragon can best be summed up as this: it's the only animated Disney movie that, even though I've watched, I am completely unable to summarize. Changedforbetter (talk) 21:30, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

No need to apologize. I did not view your response as accusatory or defensive. I hope mind did not come across that way either. I was honestly so confused when I first saw all the speculation about Elsa's sexuality. I know "Let It Go" was interpreted as a gay anthem, which is not uncommon for Disney songs as I think others like "Reflection" hold a similar resonance, but I never thought about it. I remember seeing coverage claiming that Elsa and Honeymaran were obviously into each other, and I guess I need to work out more because that is a reach too far for me lol. I hope the next movie focuses more on Elsa's future as I am still not entire sure what means to be "the protector of the Enchanted Forest".

All that said, I am a hopeless romantic so I'd love a storyline about Anna/Kristoff, but I could see a focus on just the engagement and wedding getting annoying or tedious. I love Tangled Ever After so I'd be more than happy with a short. I could also see them opening Frozen III with the wedding as starting with a happy event would provide an excellent contrast to later conflict and provides a good excuse to have everyone together in one space.

I'd love to learn more about the Trolls and your ideas sound solid to me. Further developing the Trolls may also help with explaining more about magic in this world. I've seen praise for Kristoff's role in Frozen II, but I think it's a shame he could have been absent from the film and it would not have changed much. I still hope Hans is brought back in some capacity as he feels like the other major loose thread in the overall story. Random side note, but I wonder if there would ever be a Frozen story without Elsa and Anna? I've seen some people asking for a prequel with Agnarr and Iduna so that's where my question comes from for context.

I have definitely been there before with things so I feel you lol. I am not in a huge rush to watch it, but I have not really kept you with movies. I have still not even seen Encanto and I only just got around to finishing Moana so it is less of a judgement against Raya and more just my personality rn lol. Aoba47 (talk) 14:44, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

@Aoba47 Apologies for the delay in response; work has been hectic. I think back in 2019, fans were so eager to pair off Elsa with just about any woman that the mere sight of her acting remotely friendly towards another female character such as Honeymaran caused a frenzy, but their dynamic seemed very much platonic to me. I was more excited by the fact that Elsa felt comfortable enough to openly converse with someone outside of her immediate family or friend circle.

I agree; I think starting Frozen III with a wedding provides the perfect excuse for everyone to gather in Arendelle, particularly Elsa as she would need a compelling reason to return to the kingdom. My biggest issue with Frozen II was also Kristoff being almost entirely inconsequential to the plot, in the sense that he could have remained in Arendelle and very little, if anything, would have been affected by his absence. I wouldn't count out the possibility of Disney developing a movie or TV series about Iduna and Agnarr, although I can see them considering the lack of Elsa as particularly risky as she is the franchise's main financial draw.

I think Encanto is probably the best movie Disney/Pixar has released post-Frozen, although it took me a few watches to warm up to it and just appreciate it for what it is. I think we've been conditioned to expect every new movie to be groundbreaking in some way, which simply isn't the mark of a good movie; some films are just straightforward and comforting, which is what Encanto is to me.

I've noticed that within the past 6-5 years or so, Disney has fallen into a trend of releasing movies that revolve around generational trauma/familial drama which, although interesting, has started to bore me a little after so many successive releases (think Moana, Coco, Frozen II, Turning Red, Strange World). I hope they find inspiration elsewhere soon. Changedforbetter (talk) 16:12, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

No need to apologies. I am always happy to hear from you. Life should take priority. It was nice to see Elsa feeling more comfortable to talk to other people, and that really deserved more attention. I hope we see that continue in Frozen III. That would be a organic way of introducing and developing the Northuldra more through her friendships with them. It was nice to even see her connect with the spirits.

Frozen II could have easily had Kristoff stay in Arendelle to help the Trolls protect the Arendelle people and nothing would have needed to be changed. That might have actually made more sense as it could have had a few scenes developing his relationship with the Trolls, and if Anna encouraged him to stay, it would have laid the groundwork for her becoming the queen by focusing on the well-being of her people.

I do not see Disney making anything without Elsa or Anna, but I was curious on your response. I do not see Disney taking that kind of risk by not having Elsa (or Anna and Olaf who are also pretty big draws), but the idea did stick with me after seeing fans bring it up. It would be very different at least lol.

I do see your point about generational trauma. Even the most interesting ideas can become stale if they are repeated over multiple years and in multiple movies. I agree that I hope Disney challenges its creators to focus on a different concept.

Wish seems like it has potential, but I could also see some potential stumbling blocks for it. It would help if the creators go into the movie with a clear idea of the story. I completely understand things change (and they should as nothing should be so rigid to skip revision and further inspiration), but I think that is what really hurt Frozen II the most. Aoba47 (talk) 18:19, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

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