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Hello! Wildlife templates!

Hi. This is Farjad... I have noticed that your archive 5 appears in the Category:Wildlife templates for no reason (I cant put the link here otherwise this archive too will get into the category). Can you please remove the link to this category from your rachive 5. I don't want to stalk your archive you know. -,- Cheers! Farjad0322 (talk) 09:48, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

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Merge discussion for Indian reunification

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Edits at Decline of Hinduism in Pakistan

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Edits at Decline of Hinduism in Pakistan 2nd Post

It is noticed that you are continously adding ambigous information [1] without any reference and absolutely out of context. i-e Decline of Hinduism in Pakistan. I am reverting your edits back to consensus located Talk:Decline_of_Hinduism_in_Pakistan. Have your say before you add or subtract information and implement your agenda Sarmadhassan (talk) 05:41, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

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Zoos in India

I have created a Zoos of India navbox to handle what are essentially a long lists that keep getting longer in India Zoo articles (and are hard to maintain when added individually to articles). I have meant to do this for a long time now (sorry it took so long), but had not gotten around to it. If there are other items that need to be in every India zoo article we can add them to the navbox and they will be updated in all of the articles where they are present. Donlammers (talk) 16:17, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

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Sitush You are involved in editing this article so do not leave admin warnings at my page, this articla i originally sourced and wrote find better sources. Do not leave threats on my page and do not blank sourced articles.

mrigthrishna (talk) 20:50, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

I did not blank the article and I have not left an "admin warning" here. Please discuss any issues that you may have regarding the article at Talk:Mair Rajputs. The burden is on you to source information that you want to see included in the article, not other people. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 20:59, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

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I did try to use my own language but the DDA link mentioned above is very much in "Public Domain", text from Public Domain can be used, as DDA is a Government of India and/or State Government of Delhi institution. Please refer to following news article where it says DDS is a Government institution, it was earlier under Central Government of India and now the news says..... House votes for bringing DDA under state govt, TNN, Jun 27, 2015, Times of India

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I did try to use my own language but the DDA link I used for reference: http://www.dda.org.in/greens/biodiv/aravalli-biodiversity-park.html. This link from DDA website is very much in "Public Domain", and text from Public Domain can be used, as DDA is a Government of India and/or State Government of Delhi institution. Please refer to following news article where it says DDA is a Government institution, it was earlier under Central Government of India and now the news says..... House votes for bringing DDA under state govt, TNN, Jun 27, 2015, Times of India

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I see that you've done this on several other pages too. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:56, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

In some articles that I edited on Wikipedia I had archived on respective "Article Talk/Discussion Pages" full news articles as "News Archive" with full acknowledgement of "Source links", I also enclosed the full News Article in "Quotation Marks" when I archived them in article talk/discussion pages not on main article page, I made the "News Archive" on talk pages because I noticed the original News articles are often taken down from original News websites after a couple of years and they are then not available on internet.

My suggestion to Wikipedia would be to Archive all News and other sources that Editors are using in an Internet Archive so researched and referenced sources are always available online. Thanks mrigthrishna (talk) 23:28, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

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I fixed above links, thanks mrigthrishna (talk) 11:43, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Sources for history-related articles

Hi, it's great to see your enthusiasm for history-related articles, but you need to be more cautious about the sources you are using. Please read WP:HISTRS.

A lot of material that you've recently added to the articles such as Bourbons of India, Descendants of defeated Maratha Warriors after Battle of Panipat (1761), articles related to Heo Hwang-ok is WP:FRINGE material regarded as pseudo-history by mainstream historians.

For example, in this edit you added some content about the Bourbons of India being mentioned in Mughal records. The reference you cited was this news article.

If you refer to peer-reviewed scholarly sources, you will find that this is a mere speculation by some Goa-based authors, who misinterpret the Persian title "Maryam Makani" as a Portuguese name "Maria Mascarenhas". For example, see Visions of Juliana: A Portuguese Woman at the Court of the Mughals published in the Journal of World History:

“ (p. 772) Gracias also discusses the speculation that the wife of the Mughal king Akbar (d. 1605), Maryam Makani, could potentially have been a Portuguese woman called Maria Mascarenhas, whose sister, also named Juliana, was married to Jean-Phillipe de Bourbon de Navarre [...] This is faulty; Maryam Makani (d. 1604) was the title given to Akbar's mother, Hamida Banu Begum, who came from a Persian family [...] The honorific title translates to “she who dwells with Mary,” and royal women often held such titles, regardless of religion... ”

“ (p. 784) What Mughal documents do reveal is that the villages held in Juliana's name seemed to have passed to the D'Eremao family, who claimed to be direct descendants of hers, and to be linked with the Bourbons as well. [...] nostalgia fueled some of the more elaborate claims of the D’Eremao family. At the time of Maclagan’s writing, the D’Eremao family claimed that the title of D’Eremao came from the title of Durr-i Yaman or Durr-i Oman (pearl of the Yemen or Oman) conferred by the Emperor Bahadur Shah on their ancestress, Juliana. There is no evidence that Juliana was given such a title, nor is there evidence that she had any ties to the Bourbons. ”

A news article about sensationalist claims in a newly-released book is rarely a good source for history-related articles. Sources affiliated with the subject (e.g. bourbon-bhopal.org which you added in this edit) are not acceptable at all.

Various book authors and news writers make extraordinary claims, because these claims sell their writings (e.g. Bourbon Bhopal-France link Ror-Maratha link, Heo-Ayodhya link etc.) However, that does not mean that such claims are accepted as true by mainstream historians.

You can find better sources for history-related articles at the archives mentioned at Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library. If you do not have access to a particular source, you can request it at Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request. utcursch | talk 16:24, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

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Nomination of Present day descendants of the defeated Maratha Warriors of the Battle of Panipat (1761) for deletion

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Stop spamming

There has to be a limit to this quest of yours and it is currently very disruptive. Stop spamming multiple article talk pages like you're doing here. —SpacemanSpiff 04:53, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

I am just hoping some editors will get interested in bettering the article. mrigthrishna (talk) 04:57, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

September 2017

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you disrupt Wikipedia. Cease this disruptive editing including spamming unrelated article talk pages immediately or you are likely to be blocked soon. —SpacemanSpiff 05:07, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

I just let editors of generally related articles on their talk pages know that if they might be interested in bettering this article. Marathas and Rajputs are related tradtional warrior classes of people in India and most Indians know that and as this article conserns those Marathas converted to islam so Muslim Rajput article is related to this article directly as per Indian culture. Stop threatneng me. mrigthrishna (talk) 05:14, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

"Despite multiple editors trying to counsel you over the years, you don't seem to have learned anything and continue pushing your original research and synthesis on here. If this continues then you are likely to be topic banned from this area and/or have your editing privileges revoked.—SpacemanSpiff 15:26, 7 September 2017 (UTC)"

WHAT KIND OF LANGUAGE IS THAT, DO not talk down to me about my contributions if you have time fix what is wrong and make wikipedia better. Got That!!! mrigthrishna (talk)

• Your behavior is the problem, if you can't understand that then you shouldn't even be editing here. I'm done trying to discuss reasonably with you as it's nothing more than a futile exercise that just wastes my time. —SpacemanSpiff 05:48, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

• You have no business getting personal with me and talking down to me telling me not to edit, other editors have to improve on people less skilled not come to their talk page and thereaten them to leave wikipedia. I dont want to see you on my talk page, VANISH mrigthrishna (talk) 05:55, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

Interested editors find out from the deletion sorting pages, and this deletion discussion has been added to a number of those (as you can see on the discussion page itself). I have just removed the AfD notice for Present day descendants of the defeated Maratha Warriors of the Battle of Panipat (1761) from about 8 article talk pages, where it definitely did not belong. Think about it: any editor can potentially be interested in editing any article, and every article has something in common with a hundred other articles or more. Article talk pages cannot be littered with deletion notifications for other articles, it would be meaningless and they would not be used for anything else. So please do not add the AfD notice anywhere else. Thank you. --bonadea contributions talk 06:09, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

ok seems to make sense :-) you are right they were added, was just trying my bit mrigthrishna (talk) 06:15, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

No longer autopatrolled

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No worries as it's always better to have other editors help collaborate and make articles better on Wikipedia and if someone is weak in some writing skills or is temporary unwell due to poor health to do further research and do a thorough good job then others can collaborate and fill in were there are shortcomings.

Regarding Descendants of defeated Maratha Warriors after Battle of Panipat (1761), in this article I referred to major newspaper sources a list of which I am providing below, the synthesis was not personal or pov as I only used what was written in the News/Newspaper Sources from major News Organisations and duly acknowledge these in the references, due to poor health I was not able to take the time attach in line references .

Previously in some articles I had archived full news articles as "News Archive" with "Source links" in article talk/discussion pages not on main article page, I made the "News Archive" on talk pages because I noticed the original News articles are often taken down from original News websites after a couple of years.

As far as the Descendants of defeated Maratha Warriors after Battle of Panipat (1761) article is concerned the News sources I used and listed in references were:

References used for writing Descendants of defeated Maratha Warriors after Battle of Panipat (1761)

• Meeting after 244 years By Kay Benedict, Nov 27, 2005 DNA India.
• Descendants Of Defeated Marathas Living In Balouchistan, 2004, sulekha.com
• The lost Marathas of third battle of Panipat, By UDAY MAHURKARTHURSDAY, JANUARY 12, 2012, India Today
• Rods in Haryana trace their lineage to Maratha soldiers, By UDAY MAHURKARSATURDAY, JANUARY 14, 2012, India Today
• Sultan of COURAGE (Jassa Singh Ahluwalia), Sunday, May 3, 2009, The Tribune
• 250 years on, Battle of Panipat revisited, January 13, 2011, Rediff.com
• [2],[3]
• Makar Sankranti: Marathas’ Loss at Panipat Resonates Even Today, By Kirti Phadtare Pandey, January 12, 2017, TheQuint.com
• Bhadar rekindles its link with Maratha warriors, By Deepender Deswal, TNN, Jan 15, 2011, Times of India
• Maratha stir gets support from Pakistan (and Afghanistan), Aug 9, 2017, The Asian Age

I think I am having Concentration and Anxiety issues due to poor health and must wait to get well first before being able to collaborate on articles. Thanks

mrigthrishna (talk) 23:07, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

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