Talk:Wigwam (Bob Dylan song)

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Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
September 26, 2012	Good article nominee	Listed

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Song sample[edit]

Can someone check to see if the song sample is working? I've listened to it several times now, and it is barely functional, mostly choppy at the beginning with gaps. Viriditas (talk) 04:14, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Listening to it again, I can only conclude the entire sample is bad. Viriditas (talk) 04:20, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, it works fine for me. I'm not sure what to say. I wonder if anyone else is having problems with it. Moisejp (talk) 04:23, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You're right, it appears to be a problem with Firefox. It works fine in Safari. Sorry about that. Viriditas (talk) 04:42, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No worries! Moisejp (talk) 14:18, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Wigwam (Bob Dylan song)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: GreatOrangePumpkin (talk · contribs) 09:08, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
I am in favour of linking Bob Dylan

"including wordless vocals" sounds like scat singing. If yes then perhaps write "The song's scatted basic track"

" that included brass instruments added to the track" - not quite sure what is meant, but I would write "overdubbed the brass instruments"

""mariachi-like",[6] and "Tex-Mex".[7]" link mariachi and tex-mex

""Weil Ich Dich Lieb"" perhaps state the translation (Because I Love You)
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
The image's FUR is too short. A good FUR would be for example File:63781bd.jpg
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

HI GOP, how are you? Thanks for taking on this review. About the FUR, I think Wikipedia really recently changed the template, and it was all automatic. Most of the "responses" were ones that Wikipedia generated. Have you tried doing an image FUR really recently? But I could be wrong. I think there were one or two things that I actually had to type in myself. Well, I'll have another look at it in the next couple of days. I have another article that I'm working on that I need to do a FUR for, so I'll review the process as I'm doing that. Thanks again! Moisejp (talk) 14:24, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again. As a follow-up to my note above, I uploaded another image with a FUR: [[1]], and the process was the same as for "Wigwam". It has become very automated, and they don't ask you for all of the details they used to in the old days. Because it's a single cover, the process seems to automatically make "Non-replaceable with free media because" and "Respect for commercial opportunities" n.a. You should try going through the process, and you'll see, there are really not a lot of opportunities to add more info than what I have here. Thanks, Moisejp (talk) 15:31, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That's odd. Still, the image must meet the NFC criteria. So the image could be shortened to 300x300 and you may "steal" some elements of other FURs. WP:FUR requires a "detailed fair use rationale". I guess they removed the standard text to let the user create a "specific rationale" :). Regards.--Kürbis (✔) 20:41, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have added wiki-links for Bob Dylan, Tex-Mex, mariachi. I have changed "wordless vocals" to "la-la" vocals. (I don't know that much about scat singing, but my impression is that it is a little different. I added a translation for "Weil Ich Dich Lieb" and changed the sentence about brass instruments in the lead. Moisejp (talk) 04:56, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have shrunk the image and added more points to the FUR. Let me know if anything still needs to be done. Thanks. Moisejp (talk) 05:16, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]