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Song title caps[edit]

Is "Dirt off Your Shoulder" capitalized correctly? Should "Off" not be capitalized instead? I don't see any mention of "off" in either MOS:TITLECAPS or MOS:CAPS, and while I know "on" is typically lowercase in titles, I don't seem to remember the same rule applying to "off". QuietHere (talk | contributions) 13:58, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MOS:TITLECAPS says "Prepositions containing four letters or fewer (as, in, of, on, to, for, from, into, like, over, with, upon, etc.); but see above for instances where these words are not used as preposition" So surely "off" counts just as much as "on"? That list ends with "etc." Martinevans123 (talk) 14:07, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, yeah, that explains it. I see from wikt:off that this particular definition would count as a preposition so I guess that does it. Thanks. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 14:35, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I think so, unless "dirt off" was some kind of odd verbal phrase like "brush off"? Martinevans123 (talk) 14:42, 29 January 2024 (UTC) p.s. it would be much easier if that example list just included the word "off"! Perhaps you could suggest that. Thanks.[reply]

WP:NCSONG also confirms that song article titles follow those guidelines. voorts (talk/contributions) 03:50, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Covers in covering artists' categories[edit]

Noticed recently that it seems to be a common practice to include a song page in songs by artist categories for artists who have varyingly prominent covers of those songs. For example, Mötley Crüe songs currently includes "Helter Skelter", "Like a Virgin", and "Tonight", all of which include relatively brief mentions of Crüe's covers of those songs. "Jailhouse Rock" was also in there (as well as in ZZ Top songs and the Blues Brothers songs), but I removed it due to a complete lack of mention. To me, it doesn't seem proper to include these cats at all unless the cover is a very prominent (per DEFINING) part of the article, such as "Torn" being in Natalie Imbruglia songs, but I'd like to know how other editors feel before I start tearing things out further. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 18:31, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some of the worst examples of this that I have come across are Category:Alvin and the Chipmunks songs, Category:The Muppets songs, and Category:Andy Williams songs. Fans and/or completists wanted to categorize every song each recorded or performed. With many artists recording albums of covers (or series of them like Barry Manilow and Rod Stewart have), we certainly shouldn't be categorizing each song these artists have recorded in this manner. I do remove them as I come across them and encourage you to do the same. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 02:23, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Using video thumbnails as cover artworks[edit]

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2024 February 27#File:Poison Song Cover Image.jpeg about using video thumbnails in the cover= parameter of the infobox for songs from the musical animated series Hazbin Hotel. Thanks if you can find the time to weigh in with your opinion. Ss112 14:21, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move at Talk:Zerox (song)#Requested move 1 March 2024[edit]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Zerox (song)#Requested move 1 March 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:09, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Siouxsie Passenger.jpg nominated for discussion[edit]

Link: Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2024 March 11#File:Siouxsie Passenger.jpg. George Ho (talk) 23:01, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lowercasing sought for UK Singles Chart#Requested move 12 March 2024[edit]

All of the UK Singles Chart articles have been nominated to be titled in lowercase (UK singles chart]] in an RM which may be of interest to this WikiProject. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:43, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Project_Songs/500[edit]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Songs/500

I think it might be useful to put the above project link someone as a sublink on this page. Thoughts? Electricmaster (talk) 14:00, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]