Talk:Why This Kolaveri Di

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Did you know... that the music video for the Tanglish song "Why This Kolaveri Di" had more than 10 million YouTube hits in the two weeks after its posting?

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Increase content[edit]

I think more can be written about the background of the song, how the idea came etc.. which is given in an interview by the makers, the interview is in youtube, I think it was an NDTV interview. Prathik Raj (talk) 02:08, 29 November 2011 (UTC) TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.199.178.80 (talk) 06:42, 25 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Article banners[edit]

Since the song has went viral big time, the statistics on YouTube views, etc. are changing rather fast. Does it make sense to have a 'This article contains descriptions of current events' banner for the article Viraj Paripatyadar (talk) 08:28, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lyrics not necessary[edit]

Hi Friends, I guess it'll be good if we don't mention the whole lyrics of this song in this page. Please share your views. Abdul raja (talk) 10:21, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done Lyrics removed. --Jairodz (talk) 10:41, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hey i didn't ask to remove it actually. My thought is that it'd be good if we don't have full lyrics. That's it. Abdul raja (talk) 10:50, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lyrics not part of any songs/singles good articles. Ex. Teardrops on My Guitar. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 12:03, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lyrics being added quite frequently. I think it won't be a bad idea to keep it, as the lyrics of the song was a major factor for making it viral. And the glossary looks awkward without the lyrics. --Jairodz (talk) 09:20, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Having Glossary without Lyrics really looks awkward. I second it! Abdul raja (talk) 09:27, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Article title[edit]

Shouldn't "d" in di be capitalized? --Jairodz (talk) 10:42, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes i guess so! Since 'Di'is a noun, it'd be appropriate if its capitilized! Abdul raja (talk) 10:52, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done Moved. --Jairodz (talk) 11:38, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't "this" be also capitalized? Almost all song titles I came across, have "this" capitalized. "This" is a pronoun and hence it should also be capitalized, right?. --Jairodz (talk) 17:18, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done Moved. --Jairodz (talk) 17:41, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Glossary[edit]

Even Lyrics is not there, Should we need to have the subtopic Glossary in it? My suggestion is to remove it. Thanks Abdul raja (talk) 10:54, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Glossary should be there to help people know what exactly it means in the song. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 11:44, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is not any dictionary or directory, as can be seen from WP:NOT. We should remove the glossary section. Lynch 7 12:07, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Before removing the Glossary in compliance with WP:NOT, the contents of the Glossary should be added in Wiktionary and then transwikied here in the Glossary. Else I think the Glossary should be kept as this wiki does not serve as a Dictionary which is only contradicting the WP:NOT guidelines. Binoj D (talk) 06:01, 26 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The lyrics goes "Mama notes yeduthukko..appadiyee kaile SAX yeduthukko" and not Snacks. It has been termed wrongly in the video too...Its SAX because (apart from that he says SAX) he asks the guy to play "pepe pein pe" using the SAX which follows. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deepns7 (talk • contribs) 10:28, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It is a huge mistake to not include a fwe significant explanations about the meaning of the lyrics in the song. Kolaveri is a tamil world and unfortunately vast majority of the world is NOT familiar with tamil. I strongly feel that at least kolaveri needs to be defined in this article. Everything else in here is of little value! Other key phrases to be explained include soup song and soup boys. If you read comments on you tube, many ppl are confused about the meaining of kolaveri. Wikipedia NEEDS to disseminate this information - who else can do it any better? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pannam1 (talk • contribs) 17:15, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination[edit]

Background[edit]

The line, "The song was initially leaked to the internet, and the makers, having noticed its popularity, decided to go for an official release", was mentioned in two places both in the Background section and in the Music video section. Please anybody suggest whether it is appropriate to have a line in two topics.Srinivas Ramakrishnan (talk) 08:28, 26 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 27 November 2011[edit]

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there is a mistake in the lyrics after the line mama notes eduthuko its has been given as appadiye snaks eduthuku while the actual word is sax(saxophone)followed by pa pa pa paan pa pa paan which is aactually the sound of a saxophone being played the lyrics are provided here

124.125.203.32 (talk) 19:20, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Puffin ^{Let's talk!} 20:39, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Worldwide perspective[edit]

Please see the page of other viral videos eg.charlie bit my finger,baby (justin bieber song),love the way you lie and On the floor which are very consistent with the neutrality policy of wikipedia and are good articles. |BINEET| 11:11, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

This article is about a "song" and not about a viral video. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 09:22, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yup!This is about a song and Youtube data is just an information to reveal its fame. So it doesn't have anything to do with viral videos.Thanks. Abdul raja (talk) 09:42, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How's this?[edit]

How's this? -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 09:56, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 12 December 2011[edit]

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please update the latest information on number of hits on YouTube from 16 million to 20 million (which is latest: 29,683,509). ref: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR12Z8f1Dh8

Srinivas135 (talk) 03:24, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think so. Wikipedia needs a published source that readers can go to verify the information. The count on YouTube will keep changing. Anyway, Wikipedia cannot update the article every day based on what YouTube is reporting. The interesting aspect of the phenomenon is how quickly the video picked up views. The numbers are not so interesting now, because the rate of increase is declining. The text of the article gives a number that can be traced to a published source for verifiability, with the date when it was valid. Someone has added the 20 million value to the article infobox, but without citing a source. --Orlady (talk) 04:04, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.--Hazel77 ^talk 18:12, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think the article should explain what kind of music it is. Clearly it is Tamil music, however this is a specific type of Tamil music called "Gaana" music. (Tamilan101 (talk) 23:11, 13 December 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Interesting. Can you provided a reliable source citation for verifiability? --Orlady (talk) 03:43, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Addition of Album cover[edit]

Why This Kolaveri Di Is a single from album 3 infobox should contain the album cover Perumalism Talk 16:38, 23 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Perumalism (talk • contribs) [reply]

Kannada Version[edit]

Hello all, since this page is protected, I request someone who has access to add that there is a Kannada version of this song in the appropriate section. The link for reference is here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HaDZsDeZdY. Thanks. 71.213.49.40 (talk) 22:13, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There's a Nevaan Niggaam version of it as well. Unless we get some source which says that these alternate versions are popular (and hence has some notability), its not good to include it in the article. Lynch 7 03:40, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ISO 15919 transliteration for Tamil டி= 'ṭi', not 'di' ?[edit]

Hi, Can someone please tell what is this ISO 15919 transliteration? and Why shouldn't it be 'di' for டி ? This letter has generally 2 sounds and in this word, It comes as "Di" as in Dining and not as Ticket. Answer please. Abdul raja T 16:30, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Sorry for the late reply. ISO 15919 Transliteration of Devanagari and Related Indic Scripts into Latin Characters (ISO 15919) is an international standard for the transliteration of Indic scripts to the Latin alphabet formed in 2001. It uses diacritics to map the much larger set of Brahmic consonants and vowels to the Latin script. Link

It is unanimously agreed in Wikipedia that ISO 15919 would be used to transliterate Indic scripts. Link

As a transliteration scheme, ISO 15919 is truthful to script, not pronunciation.

Tamil script uses the same character to represent both an unvoiced stop and its voiced equivalent. In this case, the letter 'டி' is always transliterated as 'ṭi' although it is pronounced as [ʈi] (unvoiced) or [ɖi] (voiced) depending on the situation. Link

Hope this helps. Yours faithfully, Kotak kasut. 18:33, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Is the idea here to transliterate or transcribe? If it's the former, then the ISO system can be used (though many linguists researching Tamil have reservations about that). However, no one to one mapping can be used for transcription of Tamil, given the complementary distribution of different phones with a common written symbol. Trying to fit languages with dissimilar phonologies into one 'Indic' system doesn't help. For transcribing Tamil, I prefer this excellent scheme mooted by User:Vadakkan. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 06:47, 9 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the late reply, sounds like a good idea in my opinion, but for the time being I'll stick to ISO 15919 for transliteration and IPA for transcription, just to be safe. Yours faithfully, Kotak kasut.

Added Lyrics[edit]

I've added the lyrics of this Why this kolaveri Di song. The lyrics I've added is from a reliable source. by, skoolboyz 04:14, 14 January 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rsamahamed (talk • contribs)

I'm afraid we can't put full song lyrics in a Wikipedia article as song lyrics are copyrighted. See WP:NOTLYRICS. Yours faithfully, Kotak kasut. 17:40, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Javed Akhtar[edit]

Why haven't Javed Akhtar's comments featured into this article? They have received wide coverage. Links below:

'Kolavari Di' an insult to sensibilities: Javed Akhtar, Indian Express
Dhanush's 'Kolaveri Di' in Hindi now, IBN Live
Javed Akhtar slams Kolaveri Di, Hindustan Times
Javed Akhtar speaks out against Kolaveri, Times of India
Javed Akhtar: Kolaveri Di is an insult to sensibility, Rediff.com
Javed Akhtar slams Why This Kolaveri Di, NDTV Movies

— Nearly Headless Nick {C} 14:06, 12 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]