Talk:The Libertine (2005 film)

Prologue

Depp's prologue

"Ladies, an announcement. I am up for it … all the time." etc

reminds me of The Duke. And you know he's a fan, I wonder if it, er, informed his part? Paul Tracy_|\talk 21:51, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Year?

As this was first shown in 2004, but released in 2005, should the title be The Libertine (2004 film) or The Libertine (2005 film)? sjorford (talk) 11:01, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

In the entertainment industry, a film is not considered "released" until it's put in theaters. The AMPAS Oscar rules, for example, peg the release date to the first theatrical showing, not the first film festival showing. When the movie is available to the unwashed masses at a local cinema, then it's "released." If it's only screened at a place like the Cannes Film Festival, it's not officially "released." This whole thing can be complicated because some films will be screened at a film festical and simultaneously released in theaters. The Tribeca Film Festival is sort of famous for doing this.BehroozZ 16:24, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

The dates in the main article do not match the dates quoted in the box containing the picture. Someone with some knowledge of the actual dates should make an effort to repair the article.

Random Tidbits

Scenes from the movie were filmed in the Isle of Man. The film received many positive reviews from those who watched it at the Toronto Film Festival.

Release Date

According to the official site (and others), the film is not released yet... Supposed to be released in the USA March 10, 2006. I think that the page should reflect this, and possible reasons why, if they are known? 70.252.51.251 03:28, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

The film had a limited one-week release on November 25, 2005, to qualify for 2005/2006 awards and then had a full release on March 10, 2006. BehroozZ 16:37, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

The dates in the main article do not match the dates quoted in the box containing the picture. Someone with some knowledge of the actual dates should make an effort to repair the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.100.221.38 (talk) 15:43, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

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Personnel of the Orchestra

Do we really need this huge list of violinists etc.? There are so many red links... and the list is really not important to the film at all.--Welcome to the dark side. (talk) 01:13, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

• None of the music info is appropriate, and has been removed. Michael Nyman information should be on his page. It is unprecedented to have half an article about a film be about the score, especially in such detail. It almost appeared as though this page was created for the purpose of highlighting Nyman's "50th album" release. In "The Piano," Nyman's score was an integral part of the film, almost a character itself, yet only got one brief paragraph on the movie's page (there is a separate page for the soundtrack). If the Nyman fan who put all that in wants to create a brief paragraph here, then create a soundtrack page, I certainly won't protest, but it does not belong here. The film synopsis is already too long. --TEHodson 08:27, 30 September 2010 (UTC) --TEHodson 08:32, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Plot section

The plot section of this film entry is much too long, overly detailed, and poorly written. I intend to return to tighten it up, if no one objects. I've already cleaned up the article a good deal. Comments and suggestions welcome. --TEHodson 23:00, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

You can use WP:FILMPLOT as a guide. Let me know if you need help researching real-world coverage of this film. Erik (talk | contribs) 16:53, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I think this is much better. What did you have in mind for "real-world coverage"? --TEHodson 06:59, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

We could have a production section and a critical reception section. There may be enough critical analysis for its own section; I found this and this. It looks like Depp has a few books about him in which this film is discussed. Also possible is a historical accuracy section, but it may be best merged elsewhere. This mentions historical accuracy. Erik (talk | contribs) 13:33, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Do you want to go ahead and start? I spent many hours shortening the plot section (and after the first night, when I spent 6 hours on it, I came back to find someone had flagged the plot section "too long." I couldn't believe it! They should have seen what was here before--a short novel practically, and not even a well-written one. But I shortened it some more and removed the flag. I'm a bit burnt out on this, but I love the film, so if you want to rough in what you think should go into the sections you've named, I'll be happy to come back and talk about it, make suggestions, etc. Do you think the plot is tight enough yet, or should it be briefer still? --TEHodson 06:47, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

I've cut it down a bit more. Red Fiona (talk) 17:26, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

What is it about this film that drives people to continually rewrite the plot section in overblown "prose" that is not in keeping with the encyclopedic nature of Wikipedia? Can you guys please get a grip and let it remain a simple recitation of the major plot points? Thank you.--TEHodson 02:55, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

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