Talk:Shattered (Turn the Car Around)

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Requested move 11 January 2019[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 06:22, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Shattered (Turn the Car Around) → Shattered (O.A.R. song) – The song title is listed in Wikipedia as Shattered (Turn the Car Around), but this name is not universally used. AllMusic lists the track title just as "Shattered". This move is contested, as one user moved the article title to what is being proposed, and another user moved it back. Mburrell (talk) 04:48, 11 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose per WP:NATURAL. It doesn't matter if the current title is universally used, as long as it's not made up or obscure. A Google search shows it is used by numerous sources. Station1 (talk) 06:03, 11 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per WP:COMMONNAME. As the cover of the single shows "Shattered" (see article jpg) no mention of "(Turn the Car Around)", this is a subtitle. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:29, 11 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • The cover of a single that almost nobody sees does not tell us what the COMMONNAME is. --В²C ☎ 18:05, 11 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Natural disambiguation is preferred. Calidum 17:07, 11 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose WP:NATURAL. This disambiguation identifies the song immediately. --В²C ☎ 17:54, 11 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • Also per WP:COMMONNAME. A WP:GOOGLE search of "Shattered O.A.R" results in almost every reference identifying this song as "Shattered (Turn the Car Around)". --В²C ☎ 18:05, 11 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Per В²C my Google search also shows that although its not common for a title ending with a word in brackets or commas to actually be part of the name (Barugh (Great and Little) and Kents Hill, Monkston and Brinklow are), but in this case it at least serves as WP:NATURAL/WP:COMMONNAME. Crouch, Swale (talk) 21:48, 11 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
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