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On 5 April 2009, it was proposed that this article be moved from Maundy Thursday to Holy Thursday. The result of the discussion was not moved.

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Split (?)[edit]

In 2005 there was apparently a page named "Chrism Mass" which became a redirect to "Chrism". I switched the redirect to here as (1) the mass is about more than just chrism, and (2) this is traditionally the day on which it is held. I have subsequently expanded the section regarding the Chrism Mass and should not wish it to appear to "overwhelm" the rest of the article. As the originally titled page remains a redirect, I cannot make the herein proposed change, (as I apparently screwed that up the last time I tried something similar). On the otherhand, if the consensus is that the material should remain here, then nevermind. (I thought about listing this under Requested Moves, but as this concerns a section only, wasn't sure if that applied.) Mannanan51 (talk) 00:31, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think it should be split. It's a very distinct liturgy which is separate from the celebration of Maundy Thursday. Hymnodist.2004 (talk) 04:29, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Article Title[edit]

I question the wisdom of titling the article using a name that not only is more-or-less only used in the UK but also contains a hapax legomenon — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.121.6.113 (talk) 15:50, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You're not the first, but it's been discussed before (see the earlier discussion section on "Article Name") and was settled in a previous RfC. (Also, it's not exactly a hapax legomenon, as I understand the term. More of a fossil word.) Nitpicking polish (talk) 16:06, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Even if there has been a discussion before, it can be discussed again. I for one believe the article should be moved to "Holy Thursday", which seems to be definitely more used throughout the English-speaking world than Maundy Thursday. Would anyone have a solid reason to oppose moving the article, while keeping both names in the lead? Dan Palraz (talk) 16:15, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am Catholic evangelical Christian and I was raised in Catholic schools, in Ohio USA and we Always called it Maundy Thursday, in the morning at morning Mass w washing of the feet, the priest and nuns called it Holy Thursday, but the Evening Mass,the priests and everyone called it Maundy Thursday! Then I in turn raised my daughters in an evangelical Lutheran church and we always call it Maundy Thursday! Same with my 87 year old dad who goes to a Missouri synod Church, they also say Maundy Thursday! So please just keep the name!

Matter of fact, under the Google trending articles today, it has Maundy Thursday, down not Holy Thursday and the first article was Wikipedia! Thank you! Just my opinion! But I had read that someone thought only in UK it is said Maundy Thursday there only!? Which nope, is not true! Blessings to all! SandcastleLyndy (talk) 17:57, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chrism Mass[edit]

If the term "Maundy Thursday" is retained for this article, then the Chrism Mass should be moved. The Chrism Mass was traditionally celebrated on this day, but the reason has nothing to do with "Maundy". --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 19:45, 7 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless of what the day is called, the Chrism Mass is still celebrated by a number of churches on this day, and remains an important part of the Holy Week observances. As far as its having "nothing to do with "Maundy", it specifically memorializes what some denominations regard as the founding of the priesthood at the Last Supper on "Maundy" Thursday. Much of the substance was moved two years ago when the Chrism Mass page was re-created (see above). The material here could stand some trimming back now, but some discussion should be retained. -Happy Maundy Thursday. Mannanan51 (talk) 16:14, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In the Catholic Church in England and Wales, the Chrism Mass is normally celebrated on the Wednesday before Maundy Thursday. Maundy Thursday is reserved for the Mass of the Lord's Supper. In checking this it is on the wednesday in Liverpool (https://liverpoolmetrocathedral.org.uk/events/event/chrism-mass/), Southwark (https://www.stgeorgescathedral.org.uk/whats-on/chrism-mass-2024/?d=638471394000000000) Birmingham (https://www.stchadscathedral.org.uk/events/mass-of-chrism-3/) Nottingham and others. In 2024 Westminster has it on Tuesday 26th March.

The Chrism mass is NOT the Mass of The Lords Supper. It is a separate Mass usually at a Cathedral, during which three containers of Oil (usually Olive, and I can remember going to Makro one year to get it for my cathedral) are consecrated as "holy chrism," (confirmation, ordination, coronation)" "the oil of catechumens," (baptism) and "the oil of the sick." (self explanatory) 82.38.212.33 (talk) 13:10, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Possible dates of Maundy Thursday[edit]

The text of the article says Maundy Thursday will "always" fall between 19th March and 22nd April, but the list of forthcoming dates shows that it will fall on 2nd May this year (2024). Maybe I have misunderstood something and this isn't a contradiction, but even so, it could do with some clarification. Hephae3tion (talk) 08:36, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This time indication only referred to the Western counting system, 2nd May is the date of the Eastern one. This year's date is 28 March in the Western church.--Medusahead (talk) 09:12, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]