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Requested move[edit]

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No consensus to move. bd2412 T 19:50, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Jumpin → Jumpin'
Jumpin' → Jumping (song)

– I Googled "kara jumpin" and it asked if I meant "kara jumping"[1], so it's clear that the title of the Kara song is actually "Jumping". Three music videos on YouTube all refer to it as "Jumping" as well.[2][3][4] Also, according to its cover art[5] and the Official Charts Company,[6] the Liberty X song has an apostrophe in its title and so it should be moved to "Jumpin'". Unreal7 (talk) 21:03, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support: This was under "Jumpin" because that's what the Japanese title says -- and that version came out first -- but the Korean version clearly indicates that it's "Jumping". Their record label/management confirms the title on their YouTube video link as well. SKS (talk) 03:06, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose both moves - instead move to Jumpin' (Liberty X song) and Jumping (Kara song) respectively, since both the current titles fail WP:CRITERIA for precision and recognisability. The Japanese and Korean sources aren't reliable for an English ' to be used for disambiguation. Japanese katakana can't represent "-ing" (although Korean hangul can), it always becomes jumpin'

Also neither of these songs are particularly notable enough to sit on Jumpin', which is highly generic, and there are other topics for "Jumpin'" including mentions in en.wp articles of Jumpin' (Alan Barnes album) (also mentioned in the Encyclopedia of Popular Music 2006), Jumpin' (John DeFrancesco album) (also mentioned in Jazz Times), etc.

Jumping redirects to Jump but perhaps Jumpin' should be a dab page. In ictu oculi (talk) 03:51, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Echo in ictu oculi. —BarrelProof (talk) 15:00, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Huh? Jumping is its own article! It doesn't redirect to jump at all. Unreal7 (talk) 21:29, 2 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support IIO's moves of the songs, following the Doin' It example. I have no opinion on how disambiguation should work. --BDD (talk) 18:52, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 2[edit]

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The result of the move request was: Jumpin moved to Jumpin' (Liberty X song) and Jumpin' moved to Jumping (Kara song). In addition, Jumpin and Jumpin' have become redirects to the Jump disambiguation page so that the links may be properly disambiguated. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 09:28, 25 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Jumpin → Jumpin' (song)
Jumpin' → Jumping (song)

– Following previous suggestion made by IIO, and redirect both Jumpin and Jumpin' to jumping. Unreal7 (talk) 21:08, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support redirects to jumping but the songs need to be at Jumpin' (Liberty X song) and Jumping (Kara song). The apostrophe just isn't a sufficiently clear disambiguator. In ictu oculi (talk) 01:39, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Living for the Weekend and Livin' for the Weekend. Unreal7 (talk) 13:19, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Unreal7, I wish you hadn't linked those - that's an unfortunately bad example since printed sources are all over the place on distinguishing those 2 songs (or the other 3 on the Living for the Weekend (disambiguation) page) by the '. It's an even worse case than Jumpin', and as you'd expect the only result of having raised those instead of appealing to guidelines is that a RM becomes inevitable for Talk:Living for the Weekend too. Sorry but we need precedents which actually are distinguished in print sources. Cheers. In ictu oculi (talk) 06:48, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support IIO's moves, again. --BDD (talk) 18:37, 19 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose of both, as nobody is going to type in "jumpin" or "jumpin'" expecting the common-noun article jumping. Red Slash 00:48, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support per IIO above. Seems a little silly to disambiguate by punctuation at the best of times, then to disambiguate by punctuation caused by interpretation of translation from foreign language is far too esoteric for my blood. --Richhoncho (talk) 13:15, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support IIO's suggestion to move the songs to Jumpin' (Liberty X song) and Jumping (Kara song) and redirect the current article names to Jumping or Jump. Incidentally, I wonder whether Jump should be moved to Jump (disambiguation) or Jumping (disambiguation). —BarrelProof (talk) 18:09, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect[edit]

Okay, I actually wouldn't mind the move of the songs themselves, but the base titles should redirect to a disambiguation page. Nobody (or almost nobody) is going to search for the article on literal jumping by typing in jumpin or jumpin'. They're going to be looking for something named after jumping. Red Slash 21:25, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Jump is (currently) a dab page. I agree that redirecting there seems appropriate for jumpin and jumpin'. —BarrelProof (talk) 22:06, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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