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How is this guy not notable? He's a current college president, and many current college presidents have their own entries. Plus, he has also written some books. Purplebackpack89 (talk) 06:21, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
134.69.4.156, which is an Occidental College IP range, apparently copied the article directly from an Oxy web page, [1]. Comparing his last edit and the text there, they are virtually the same. We need to change it up a little, and add more outside/non-Oxy references. Probably when he's invested on the 24th, there will be an article about him in the LA Times.
Purplebackpack89 (talk) 23:18, 6 October 2009 (UTC), an Oxy student and the guy who started the Veitch article in first place[reply]
Well, my suggestion is to revert back to this revision. It's clear enough that 134.69.4.156 has added the copyrighted material. Minimac (talk) 21:28, 13 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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I'm User:Edgewood2048 and I work at Occidental College. This bio doesn't appear to have had any significant updates in at least three years. To make it more up-to-date and less random, I’d like to propose some additions. I have used the wiki bios of other liberal arts college presidents as a model, including Carolyn “Biddy” Martin of Amherst; Valerie Smith of Swarthmore; and Clayton Spencer of Bates. However, I want to make sure that I follow WP:COI and gather as much consensus for these changes as possible. So I'm posting my proposals here to solicit input. All proposed additions are in bold.
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Early Life and Education Second paragraph: Clarify he attended Loyola HS in Los Angeles, and add a little biographical detail:
Veitch attended Loyola High School in Los Angeles before he received his bachelor's degree from Stanford University in English and American Literature. After graduation, he traveled across the country for a year, working on a dairy farm in Nebraska, on a Mississippi tugboat, and loading fish in Gloucester, Massachusetts. Source: https://peterholslin.wordpress.com/2008/01/26/jonathan-veitch-dean-of-eugene-lang-college-will-step-down/, accessed 3 January 2018. He later received his doctoral degree in the History of American Civilization from Harvard University.[1]
Career Second paragraph: Clarify that Eugene Lang College is part of The New School, and add a sentence about his five years there:
Veitch was named dean of the New School’s Eugene Lang College in 2004. During his four years as dean, he was credited with expanding the ranks of the college’s full-time faculty, and creating new partnerships with New York cultural institutions and civic engagement programs. Source: https://peterholslin.wordpress.com/2008/01/26/jonathan-veitch-dean-of-eugene-lang-college-will-step-down/ accessed 3 January 2018. He stepped down to become president of Occidental College in 2009.[4]
Occidental College As has been done with Martin, Smith and Spencer, I propose the creation of a “Major Initiatives” section to give a fuller account of the Veitch presidency.
Outreach
On his first anniversary at the college in August 2010, Veitch hosted a public forum for Los Angeles activists and local officials to discuss the city's environmental future. He also brought on Ella Turenne as the college's assistant dean of civic engagement. Together with other college presidents, Veitch has publicly supported the federal Deferred Action for Childhood Arrival (DACA) program. Source: https://www.pomona.edu/news/2016/11/21-college-university-presidents-call-us-uphold-and-continue-daca, accessed 3 January 2018. Partnering with the Association of Independent California Colleges and Universities, he helped organize a March 2017 symposium that brought participants from more than 40 Southern California institutions to Occidental to consider how to respond to changes in immigration policy. Source: http://www.theoccidentalweekly.com/news/2017/03/09/occidental-hosts-southern-california-aiccu-symposium/2886185, accessed 3 January 2018
Personal life Remove the last sentence -- President Veitch no longer lives on campus.
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After graduation, he traveled across the country for a year, working on a dairy farm in Nebraska, on a Mississippi tugboat, and loading fish in Gloucester, Massachusetts. Not approved.[note 1]
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Veitch was named dean of the New School’s Eugene Lang College in 2004. During his four years as dean, he was credited with expanding the ranks of the college’s full-time faculty, and creating new partnerships with New York cultural institutions and civic engagement programs. Clarification needed.[note 2]
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After a two-year consultative process initiated by Veitch, Occidental approved a new five-year strategic plan in 2012 that laid out such goals as greater engagement with Los Angeles; curricular innovation; diversity and access; fostering a cosmopolitan campus culture; and improving students’ living and learning environment. Approved.
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Veitch has overseen the cultivation of partnerships with local institutions such as the Huntington Library, the Autry Museum of the West, Jet Propulsion Laboratory, and regional theaters including A Noise Within. Clarification needed.[note 3]
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The 3rd LA Project, a series of conversations about the future of the city moderated by Los Angeles Times architecture critic Christopher Hawthorne, was begun in 2015. Occidental’s Institute for the Study of Los Angeles was launched in 2017. Clarification needed.[note 4]
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During Veitch’s tenure, Occidental announced began new programs in computer science, media arts and culture, music production, and Black studies. Approved.
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Already home to one of the world’s largest collections of Mexican birds, housed in the Moore Lab of Zoology, Occidental acquired the Cosman Shell Collection of more than 170,000 specimens in 2015. The two collections will form the basis of a new environmental science program. Not approved.[note 5]
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During Veitch’s tenure, Occidental has been identified as one of the country’s most economically diverse liberal arts colleges by the New York Times. Not approved.[note 6]
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In September 2017, Veitch announced the creation of the Barack Obama Scholars Program, a full-ride, four-year scholarship program aimed at exceptional students – with an emphasis on first-generation students, veterans, and community college transfers – who want to contribute to the public good. Approved.
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In June 2010, Veitch announced a $19 million renovation and expansion of Swan Hall, which houses faculty offices and classrooms. The result was the McKinnon Center for World Affairs, designed by architect Hagy Belzberg, that houses the college’s international, foreign language, and politics programs. In April 2013, Veitch unveiled a 1-megawatt solar array on the Occidental campus, to generate a portion of the campus's energy supply. The innovative design of the array has been cited as a positive example for similar projects. In April 2017, Veitch announced construction of a new aquatic center to replace Occidental’s 87-year-old Taylor Pool and the expansion of an existing tennis center. Not approved.[note 7]
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Fundraising has increased under Veitch. Occidental raised a record $29.3 million in gifts and new pledges in 2014-15. Not approved.[note 8]
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Together with other college presidents, Veitch has publicly supported the federal Deferred Action for Childhood Arrival (DACA) program. Approved.
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Partnering with the Association of Independent California Colleges and Universities, he helped organize a March 2017 symposium that brought participants from more than 40 Southern California institutions to Occidental to consider how to respond to changes in immigration policy. Approved.
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Remove the last sentence -- President Veitch no longer lives on campus. Unable to implement.[note 9]
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^With this particular proposal, it states that the subject has "overseen the cultivation of partnerships," etc. By definition, the position of educational administrator is to act as an overseer of an institution. Oversight is the byproduct of an administrative role. Accordingly, please clarify what this oversight entailed, so that the subject's role in it may be better understood.
^It's unclear what this project is or how it relates to the subject.
^The sentence as it's worded implies that these developments were tentative at the time the source wrote about them. An updated source would work best here.
^This appears to be more appropriate for inclusion in the Occidental Wikipedia article. Additionally, the WP:RANKings of schools or other organizations can be problematic in other ways. (See alsoWP:NUMBER1.)
^These large construction projects are almost always the result of many years--if not decades worth of planning--from many different people involved at many different levels. The amount of this work which may be directly attributable to the subject is debatable.
^This claim ascribes to the subject an accomplishment which came about via team effort and not through the actions of one person alone (i.e., "Fundraising has increased under Veitch"). Fundraising is endemic to all educational facilities, and Occidental's fundraising apparatus was likely created, staffed, and operated long before the subject arrived on the scene. This fundraising did not occur "under" one person, but rather, was part and parcel of an already-instituted, mandatory team effort. The individual directly responsible for the operation of this apparatus was not the President of Occidental, but the Vice President for Institutional Advancement. Thus, fundraising as a function of the subject's job was accomplished largely by others in a coordinated fashion, an accomplishment which ought to be ascribed to Occidental collectively rather than to one individual.
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I'm User:Edgewood2048 and I work at Occidental College. As President Veitch has announced his decision to step down from the presidency in June 2020, it seems an appropriate time to propose some updates. I also am proposing some changes to the narrative structure of the Occidental College section in an attempt to provide a more logical flow. I continue to use the wiki bios of other liberal arts college presidents as a model; as before, I want to make sure that I follow WP:COI and gather as much consensus for these changes as possible. I'm posting my proposals here to solicit input.
Thanks for your help with this.
Edgewood2048 (talk) 00:08, 25 January 2020 (UTC)Edgewood20148[reply]
@Jkfp2004: Thoughts? You and I laid a lot of the groundwork for this article pbp 02:18, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
There are some of these changes that I'm not a big fan of. They seem to be more about Occidental than Vietch himself. pbp 15:26, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
