Talk:Green Guerillas/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: GhostRiver (talk · contribs) 16:11, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

I'll be taking a look at this article! Any section marked with a  Working tag means that I haven't finished making comments, but feel free to address any suggestions that you do see, even if I'm not finished! — GhostRiver 16:11, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Good Article review progress box Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Lede

• "The Green Guerillas" → "The Green Guerillas" per MOS:BOLDTITLE
  •  Done
• "abandoned or empty space" → "abandoned or empty spaces"
  •  Done

Early activities

• Link financial crisis to stagflation, the relevant crisis at the time
  •  Done, but to History_of_the_United_States_(1964–1980)#"Stagflation"
• "and saw an associated increase in abandoned buildings"
  •  Done
• "Many were demolished, sometimes because they had attracted crime, and the number of vacant lots increased." → "Some of these buildings attracted crime, leading the city to demolish the abandoned buildings and increase the number of vacant lots."
  • This is a change in meaning. I don't think the sourcing states that the demolitions were all necessarily due to attracting crime?
• There should be a citation at the end of the first paragraph, per WP:INTEGRITY
  •  Done
• WL condom
  •  Done
• "with the hope that after shattering," → "with the hope that, after shattering,"
  •  Done

Bowery Houston Community Farm and Garden

• "in colonial times to celebrate the United States bicentennial" → "in colonial times, in celebration for the upcoming United States bicentennial"
  •  Done
• "recalling that "In"..." → "recalling that, "[i]n"..."
  •  Done
• "The group requested permission from the city, but it was denied so they proceeded outside of official channels." → "After the city denied the group permission to work on the project, they proceeded outside of official channels."
  •  Done
• Link New York City Department of Housing Preservation and Development
  •  Done
• Link New York Daily News
  •  Done
• "the garden said" → "the garden said that"
  •  Done
• "reported that the group" → "reported that they"
  •  Done

Growth and community organizing

• "Through their activities they taught communities not just about plants, but" → "In addition to teaching communities about plants, the Green Guerillas taught..."
  •  Done
• "the year after Christy died" → "the year after Christy's death"
  •  Done
• "one of its" → "one of their"
  •  Done
• "Bowery-Houston Garden" → "Bowery–Houston Garden"
  •  Done
• "Newsday article" → "Newsday article"
  •  Done
• "between 1984-1999" → "between 1984 and 1999"
  •  Done
• "he prioritized privatizing and developing public land" → "he prioritized the privatization and development of public land"
  •  Done
• WL New York City Council
  •  Done
• The Giuliani lawsuit was in 1999 – how did it turn out?
  •  Done added a few sentences about this and a related suit

Legacy

• "In an article in Nature and Culture" → "In an article for Nature and Culture"
  •  Done
• "showing that "it is possible"..."
  •  Done
• ""ecological restoration projects."" → ""ecological restoration projects"." per MOS:LQ
  •  Done I don't know why the MOS doesn't want punctuation within quotes when it appears that way in the source just because a word or two is missing from the front, but also don't care enough to argue. :)

References

• In reference [1], I would make the title end at "Garden Movement", then have NYC Parks be the work, and New York City Department of Parks and Recreation be the publisher.
  •  Done I've been told in the past that we should avoid having both a work and a publisher, but meh.
• In reference [3], change "NEIGHBORHOOD REPORT: EAST VILLAGE" to title case, per MOS:ALLCAPS
  •  Done
• Same deal in reference [13]
  •  Done
• In reference [5], specify that the article in question is in Vol. 15, No. 6 of the EPA Journal, which should be listed as the work and not the publisher.
  •  Done
• You can link [6] to the GBooks entry here
  •  Done
• Reference [18] is inconsistent with the citation style used in every other reference
  • Do you just mean it was missing a url and access date? I've gone ahead and added them. They were somehow tricky to find.  Done?

General comments

• Two photos are used. Both are relevant to the article. One is in the public domain and one is Creative Commons.
• There are no issues with stability. The last non-bot edit was on August 2.
• Earwig score is good, with the highest % matches tying back to attributed direct quotes.

Putting on hold to allow nominator to address comments. Ping me if there are any questions. — GhostRiver 16:39, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

@GhostRiver: Thanks for the review! I think I've taken care of nearly everything above. A couple minor responses, but otherwise pretty straightforward. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 21:52, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

@Rhododendrites: Thank you for making the changes! Regarding the one comment above, the exact quote in the source (p. 290) says, the number of vacant lots grew dramatically as the city razed abandoned structures that had become hubs for arson, vandalism, and socially undesirable activities. To me, that reads like the primary reason was crime. — GhostRiver 22:01, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

@GhostRiver: Sure, but I don't think that's strong enough to state cause and effect. It also only speaks to the buildings demolished by the city rather than when the city took ownership of an existing empty lot. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 22:30, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

@Rhododendrites: I do still think the sentence reads awkwardly as it is. Maybe try and saw an associated increase in abandoned buildings, some of which attracted crime. Many were demolished, and the number of vacant lots increased. — GhostRiver 22:09, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

@GhostRiver:  Done sounds good to me. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 22:16, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

@Rhododendrites: Looks all good to me now, passing! — GhostRiver 22:18, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

@GhostRiver: Great! Thanks for taking the time! — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 22:24, 30 August 2021 (UTC)