Talk:Frederic Hymen Cowen

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Comments[edit]

I am sorry to be pedantic, but my research is based on resources that are in the public domain or the British Library, which I have spent 5 years collating. As such, there is nothing original in the content of this article that cannot be clarified from many sources. I am the only significant authority on this composer, although Lewis Foreman and Jeremy Dibble would be able to confirm a majority of my statements. Christopher J. Parker Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Signa_%28opera%29"

I appreciate the effort you've put into documenting this composer. -HammerFilmFan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.111.2.158 (talk) 07:20, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References[edit]

Further to my previous talk page entry, I have now added references, listing the principal sources of the information I have added to this article on Frederic Cowen, which I believe any Cowen enthusiast will find beneficial, and which will provide much backgrounding reading for anyone interested in this subject. Anyone that finds anything controversial in this revised article is welcome to discuss it with me, and if necessary I will provide additional information to support that which is written here to them. Christopher J. Parker, BA (hons), MMus Christopher J. Parker 13:12, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Verification[edit]

There is also an entry on Cowen in the Oxford Dictionary of Opera. I don't see any problem with the article as a whole so I am removing the OR tag. If anyone wants to challenge details in the text then they should go ahead and do so. Regards from the Opera Project! - Kleinzach 01:08, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The OR tag was in initially placed to reflect the fact that the author had declared the article was based upon his own phd research. There has since been a great deal of laudable effort (on Mr Parker's part) to adequately reference the article, and I more than agree that the tag should be removed. I do, however, feel that there ought to be a {{wikify}} tag, as the article could do with cleaning (e.g. removing the more floral descriptions, such as "illustrious masters", and "he succeeds wonderfully",) and trimming down to a degree. I would be happy to have a go, but think it only fair to give Mr Parker first bite - Tiswas^(t/c) 09:00, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I agree. - Kleinzach 09:26, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tidy up[edit]

I have taken up the collective advice on the removal of some of the more flowery phrases and have made a correction to the picture insert information to bring it into line with the main text, and correct the error. Cowen's birth name varies in almost every publication, but I have seen a synagogue document that confirms his birth name as I have corrected it.Christopher J. Parker 15:40, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's looking good. By the way we don't use infoboxes on composers articles. there is a stong policy against this at the Composers Project, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Composers#Lead section. Regards -- Kleinzach 04:27, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Chamber Music[edit]

the Musical Times of June 1 1879 (avail. Google Books and in Libraries) (p.321) mentions the premiere of a piano quartet in C minor (on 12 May 1879 - Cowen/M. Musin, violin/Mr. Hann, viola/M. Albert, cello). (It is possibly since lost, but if there are corroborating mentions elsewhere then perhaps should be in the worklist? ) Schissel | Sound the Note! 05:07, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting. The Grove doesn't mention it at all - typically, they try to cover lost compositions. Your cite is a valid RS. I hope a copy exists somewhere waiting re-discovery/recording. I'm going to go ahead and add it to my personal notes on this composer. -HammerFilmFan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.111.2.158 (talk) 07:24, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]