Talk:Duke of Argyll

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Roll of the Peerage[edit]

The Argyll title is not on the Roll of the Peerage as updated 1 november 2011 - anyone able to comment? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.224.47.12 (talk) 17:27, 19 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Should someone make his son a wikipedia page considering he is next in line and has served as page of honour to the queen — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alezandrinia (talk • contribs) 10:54, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Disqualified from holding a Scottish seat?[edit]

Quoth the article:

The 5th Duke sat as a member of parliament for Glasgow until his father's accession to the Dukedom in 1761 disqualified him from representing a Scottish seat. He then became the member for Dover until 1766, when he was created as Baron Sundridge and obtained the right to sit in the House of Lords.

Why would his father's accession have disqualified him from holding a Scottish seat, but not an English one? --Jfruh (talk) 04:09, 3 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if there should be anything about this in the article, but there's a 2013 paper about the UK parliamentary franchise which addresses this sort of thing.

After the Act of Union with England, the right to stand and vote in elections to Scottish constituencies was carried over from the situation immediately beforehand. One rule it had was that peers and their eldest sons were excluded from burgh seats.

England had had a rule that no Peer of the Kingdom had any right to give his vote in the election of a Member of the House of Commons.

On his father's ennoblement, the 5th Duke wasn't a peer (of anywhere), but was the eldest son of a peer of Scotland. This barred him from standing in Glasgow Burghs, but not in England. I don't know what the full eligibility criteria were in Dover, though.^[1] Aoeuidhtns (talk) 14:10, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "The History of the Parliamentary Franchise - Commons Library" (PDF). commonslibrary.parliament.uk. UK Parliament. 1 March 2013. ISSN 1368-8456. Retrieved 7 January 2022. {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |1= (help)

Coat of Arms[edit]

This is most probably a funny coincidence, but the Argyll coat of arms resembles the symbols of the capital-city of Lisbon, Portugal. See below. Cheers! The Ogre (talk) 13:31, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Numbering[edit]

So if this dukedom of the UK was created in 1892, doesn't that restart the numbering ?Eregli bob (talk) 00:17, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Family[edit]

Shouldn't someone make a wikipedia page for his son considering he is the heir to be — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alezandrinia (talk • contribs) 10:57, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Remainder of the 1892 duchy[edit]

I had a look at the Gazette record for the 1892 duchy^[1], and found a couple of things which aren't in the article. One is the remainder for the duchy (as usual, it's to "the heirs male of [the first Duke's] body, lawfully begotten").

The other is the date of the award. The notice was was published in the Gazette on 8 April 1892, although there is a mistake in the date for the notice itself (7 April 1862). The article gives the date as 17 April 1892, without a reference. I'm not familiar with how they do this sort of thing. Could someone confirm what the date should be for this? Thanks. Aoeuidhtns (talk) 03:23, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Page 2082 | Issue 26276, 8 April 1892 | London Gazette". thegazette.co.uk. Retrieved 31 December 2021.

[1] "The History of the Parliamentary Franchise - Commons Library" (PDF). commonslibrary.parliament.uk. UK Parliament. 1 March 2013. ISSN 1368-8456. Retrieved 7 January 2022. {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |1= (help)

[2] "Page 2082 | Issue 26276, 8 April 1892 | London Gazette". thegazette.co.uk. Retrieved 31 December 2021.

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