Talk:Coriander/Archive 1

Copyright infringement?

The entire section Growing in containers and some of History are the same as the text found at one of the external references (http://www.selfsuffucientish.com/coriander.htm). This looks like a copyright violation to me. Hajhouse 06:35, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

Use as a Drug

I would like to add a paragraph regarding the use of coriander as a drug. In Vietnam (almost entirely in the north) the roots and stems of the herb are smoked, which is believed (although I am aware of no scientific study into it) to have a depresant effect simmilar to that of alcohol. They are smoked mainly during the "Lim Festival" (during march I believe) and are usualy smoked with pipes. Although this is a fairly recent use of the herb- it is a tradition which only originated in the 1940s, I believe it would still be a usefull adition to the page. http://www.threeland.com/vietnam_festivals_events.htm http://www.theepicentre.com/Spices/coriander.html These are two sources I would use, I could of couse find more with time. 60.224.171.179 (talk) 06:44, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Genetic cause

> This difference in perception of the flavor of cilantro may have a genetic cause.

A genetic variation in the plant or the person who eats it?

-- Viajero 10:06 29 Jun 2003 (UTC)

The person who eats it. Personally I can't stand the taste of cilantro. M123 03:47, 24 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Me either... never knew it might be a genetic thing though. I also think I might have that "supertaster" gene, where some things taste very bitter... --Dante Alighieri | Talk 01:11, May 24, 2005 (UTC)

I'm one of those who thinks the plant tastes "soapy". Funny anecdote: I was having dinner with my wife at my boss's house; his wife was from Costa Rica and had served us salad containing cilantro. I tasted my salad and immediately spoke up and said that his wife must have forgotten to rinse the bowls after washing them, because my salad had a soapy taste. Oops. BTW, all cilantro tastes this way to me, so it's not the plant, but me. Any researchers want to study my genes? Wdfarmer 20:10, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Do we have any idea on the prevelance of this soapy cilantro syndrome? People always look at me funny when I make a comment about how I find eating cilantro like eating a bar of soap ;) --Q Canuck 15:00, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

It seems to follow genetic lines, but does NOT seem to follow the same genetics as Phenylthiocarbamide. If someone has the actual document Genetic Analysis of PTC and Cilantro Taste Preferences by Heather Noxon and Alex Meyer, it might help answer this question. For what it is worth, I can taste PTC, and I think cilantro's soapy flavor is disgusting. --Mdwyer 00:20, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

I hate fresh cilantro, but I like using dried coriander seed a lot. I'm not sure why...69.196.62.164 18:31, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I have heard of people who initially disliked coriander acquiring a taste for it later. The sister of a friend of mine, after disliking it most of her life, eventually went wild over it. Perhaps part of the answer is that people's tastebuds become less sensitive with age (or rather that they gradually lose them) and are thus able to appreciate tastes that would formerly have been too strong for them (and sometimes find things they formerly liked too bland). For example, many people acquire a taste for olives and/or hot spices only as adults. Personally, I have always loved cilantro, which, for me has a delicate and magical taste. 38.117.238.82 06:02, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

That happened to me, too (the smell of the stuff literally made me gag, now I use ridiculous amounts of the stuff when I'm cooking). I didn't used to like olives, either, but that's probably down to childhood experience (I ate one, thinking it was a grape, and got a nasty shock :)) Paul E Nolan 15:02, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

I love reading, writing, and talking about food as much as anybody, but please remember that this space is intended, per the Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines, for discussing the Coriander article, not our experiences with coriander/cilantro itself. Thanks. Mmccalpin 18:48, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry :) Paul E Nolan 23:40, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

L.M.T.

I recently(a few months ago) discovered that I also have this gene. I also have a few colognes that I thought smelled like detergent as well, only to look up the notes and find out they had coriander in them. Surprise! I know the article says that they report a "rank smell", which, if it were true in this case, I wouldn't wear it. I want to do a little more searching on this, see if we can get it sourced, etc. So far it seems it's all original research, but there's no way it's made up. Cheers. Wikidan829 16:44, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

It wasn't "old age" that made me start liking coriander leaves. I hated them as a kid. But around when I was 18, I started to love them.. and the soapy taste went away ... If you want to like coriander leaves... force yourself to eat a generous amounts of them every day for a week. The soapy taste will disappear... :)24.6.23.3 16:35, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Initially I found Coriander leaves (cilantro) extremely vile, which might have had something to do with me mixing it up with parsley when buying it. Therefore, I must insist that any proximity in taste to parsley is not a common experience and removed it from the entry. I was turned off for quite a few years and for the sake of an experiment tried it again and decided to love it - even spicing up orange juice with it. It still has nothing to do with parsley. Oalexander-En (talk) 05:02, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

I've reverted an unconstructive that calls some people "genetically defective"-- ie, those who find coriander bad-tasting. Even it it *were* genetically based, that wouldn't make people who perceive a particular flavour "defective". Genetic variations are not not necessarily defects. They're just variations. Beastiepaws (talk) 02:15, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Coriander to me is the single most ofensive sensation EVER. It hase an absolutely horible RANCID, sopay metalic taste. It feals like washing up liguid on my toungue. I actualy can't think of anything wich smells or tastes worse that this vile weed. I actualy find the taste of it more un-bareble than passing kidney stones. Physical pain is actualy more barable that coriander, (cilantro USA). I would say that I am at the far extream end of the spectrum for hating coriander, some people absolutely love the taste, but too me it tastes like poison, but worse. Anybody know if there is any reserch into cilantrophob's ? Civilian knowledge (talk) 17:41, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Names

As occurences of the word "cilantro" outnumber (although slightly) the occurences of the word "coriander" on Google [1] I thought it was appropriate to include the name "cilantro" in the first paragraph, and not buried down in the article with "chinese parsley" and "methi", as it seems to be as common as "coriander". Nohat 06:49, 2004 Mar 13 (UTC)

I agree. Good call. WormRunner | Talk 07:06, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Ooops! - missed seeing this discussion - I'll move leaves above seeds so cilantro is more visible - MPF 01:09, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)

In the US, it seems that coriander is the name for the seeds and cilantro is the name for the leaves. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 01:11, May 24, 2005 (UTC)

I'm American. I don't know how it's used elsewhere, but here the plant itself is called "cilantro" and its seeds are called "coriander." Cilantro and coriander are both used in cooking. We have two words for it because the leaves and stems taste very different from the seeds. They're considered two different herbs here. Most Americans don't even know they come from the same plant. So, you should probably make some kind of note at the top of the article explaining the difference in usage. When I first read the article, my first impression was, "Wow, this entire article is wrong! Coriander is cilantro seeds; they're not the same thing!" I was very confused.

Appreciate that you see it differently, and thought 'this entire article is wrong', but Wikipedia isn't written just for you. English is international, and many outside the US don't recognise 'cilantro' which means for them it would also be wrong. AlexHunterIS (talk) 09:41, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

In the United States, Coriander leaves were generally known as "Chinese or Mexican Parsley" for a long time... with the growth of the Hispanic immigrant community, people gradually came to use "cilantro" which is the form used in Spanish. This has happened with many other foods. For example, chickpeas are now called "garbanzo" and broad beans are called "faba" or fava" and rocket is called "arugula" etc. etc.24.6.23.3 16:39, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Culantro

This was the third paragraph under the Leaves section: "In Peruvian cuisine, the leaves are used in a great number of traditional recipes, and are known as 'culantro.' The seeds have also recently been incorporated into newer recipes." Even on Wikipedia, it seems culantro is a totally different plant (Eryngium foetidum). This is also noted further down in ~this~ article on coriander. It seems misleading then to state a few paragraphs above that coriander is known in Peru as culantro. If the Peruvians actually call it by the wrong name though, perhaps a reference would good here. Otherwise it seems the clause should be struck in the meantime. Tokalon73 20:48, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

No, that paragraph is quite likely correct. The names for Coriandrum sativum and Eryngium foetidum aren't standardized across Latin America, and there are certainly regions where "culantro" refers to what in English is called "cilantro." See for example this video on YouTube; there's even shots of a package of cilantro seeds, sold in Peru, that labels it as "culantro." 63.80.102.4 (talk) 21:47, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Buzz?

Can you get a buzz off of cilantro? Whenever I have a serious amount of it I get a slightly stoned sensation. Maybe it's just the tasty tacos....

Never heard of that. I'll have to try eating more of it. How much did you have to ingest to get a buzz? dave 01:00, May 20, 2004 (UTC)

Changing taste

My first experience of coriander (so called here in Australia as we use the word interchangeably for seeds and leaves) was while travelling overland from Europe to Australia back in the 1970s, by the time we reached SE Asia having been on the road for quite some time, I found it in just about everything local we ate and it made me quite nauseous...

Many years later I love the stuff and can't get enough... leading me to wonder whether it may have been some kind of mineral or vitamin deficiency I have or had then which influences my taste and response.... a bit like zinc tally if you've ever experienced the change which comes about in taste sensation if you actually need it...

The frist few times I tried coriander leaves as a kid, they did taste like soap to me. But after eating a number of times I grew to love it and now I eat it with relish. To tell the truth, I can't understand why I thought it was "soapy" before as it doesn't taste like that anymore.. I guess tastes do change... maybe something in your taste buds change after being exposed to coriander leaves a few times. :) 24.6.23.3 16:31, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm another Aussie who hated it with a passion until I lived with Afghans and after a few meals it became just about my favourite herb. Definitely an acquired taste. (Try coriander salsa on liverwurst sandwiches .. to die for!) I note that Afghanistan is not mentioned in the article, but Afghans eat it by the s***load. So maybe someone should talk about that. If the Afghans eat so much of it, I presume so do the Pakistanis. Alpheus (talk) 01:39, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Use in Coca-Cola

I reverted a note about how Coriander is used in Coca-cola. I'm concerned that there is no support for this (obviously!). At the very least, it needs to be supported with something subjective. Is it the flavor of the leaves or the seeds that is found in Coca-cola? I'd be okay with this showing back up under a 'trivia' section, or maybe someone needs to expand the 'uses' section to include a number of flavoring uses. --Mdwyer 14:11, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Oil of Coriander is used in flavoring Coca-Cola along with other essential oils. See Coca-Cola_formula.24.6.23.3 16:23, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Removed text

I just pulled the following passage from the article:

The name coriander derives from Latin “coriandrum” (which was first noted by Pliny), in turn from Greek “κοριανδρον”.

I have at hand a copy of the Elder Pliny's Natural History, just finished checking every indexed mention of coriander in that lengthy book, & failed to find anything to support (or explain) this statement; he does not offer any etymological information about Coriander. (I also doubt Pliny would be a useful authority about the etymology of English words.) -- llywrch 05:13, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

The OED confirms everything was correct in that etymology except the Pliny part, so I added the correct part back in. OED also had a different spelling for the Ancient Greek, so I changed to their's. But wow, you actually checked through Pliny to verify that fact? I'm impressed. - Taxman ^Talk 15:54, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, what I did was look thru the index of botanical items, & checked every mention of "coriandrum" it indexed. No, I didn't read the entire book; that would have taken more than a couple of hours. Maybe someday I'll do just that -- integrate material from the first encyclopedia (much as we have from other public domain sources) & check every reference Wikipedia makes to it. It is a project I often think about. -- llywrch 21:30, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Cilantro in the US?

I'm pretty sure the name varies regionally. I grew up on the East Coast, and while I knew of coriander -- only the fruit; I was not aware of anyone using the leaves -- I only heard of cilantro when I moved to California. And it tastes like soap. TCC (talk) (contribs) 02:42, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

• Perhaps 'coriander' is used for the seeds whereas 'cilantro,' (I beleive a more recent entrant into general American cuisine) is used for the greens. Kdammers (talk) 12:52, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Green Coriander Seeds

There seems to be at least two varieties of coriander plants. At Indian grocers you will always find bags of green coriander seeds along with bags of brown coriander seeds. This article seems to imply that all coriander seeds are brown.24.6.23.3 16:11, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

This is because the seeds were not allowed to ripen. 72.188.213.185 13:31, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

They go brown when they dry.

Removed "Riboidiota" hoax material

DrFranklin added a hoax reference to an enzyme called "Riboidiota", purportedly related to the way coriander is metabolized. Noting that the "Riboidiota" doesn't end in -ase, like the vast majority of enzymes, includes the word "idiot", and doesn't appear in the BRENDA enzyme database at http://www.brenda.uni-koeln.de/ (or anywhere else), I concluded that this was an attempt to sneak misinformation into the article, and reverted that portion to its previous state. The supporting reference made no mention of "Riboidiota". Not-from-here 21:09, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Medicinal uses section

Why was this summarily deleted? Some of the claims were referenced, and there are similar sections on other foods. Is there some sort of specific Wikipedia policy on including claims for alternative medicine/herbalism on plant articles? If not, I think the medicinal uses section warrants a restore (possibly revision to insure greatest level of accuracy). Eliz81 15:35, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Answers. I deleted the section because the references did not meet the standards of WP:RS, because medical claims were being made without back up, because the section was written in a original research style, and it was not very encyclopedic. In addition, undue weight was given to medical claims that had little or no medical research. As I recall, a lot of the information was about mercury poisoning against which there are much better chelation therapies. Wikipedia does not have a policy except for the ones above. Unreliable sources, undue weight and original research must be all be avoided. Alternative medicine does not receive a dispensation from meeting standards listed above, especially in making medical claims that could cause someone reading this article to take action that may or may not lead to serious injury. The section needs to be rewritten, and I'll help. But keep it to a paragraph, use really good sources (I can help there), and don't make medical claims that can't be verified. A lot of plant species can be helpful to people. But a lot of information has been abused. St. John's wort is a perfect example of a plant that has some effect on depression, yet it appears that the amount necessary to have a clinical effect may actually be toxic. And anyone who has depression needs to be treated in numerous ways to prevent suicide or other anti-social episodes. Let's keep balance. Coriander is a nice spice, and it's medicinal uses need to be supported. Orangemarlin 17:31, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

This sounds quite reasonable to me. I'm no alternative medicine guru, but a few sourced mentions of medicinal uses shouldn't be too out of line. The section was created by different authors with unfortunately varying levels of providing references for their claims. The last version of it containing the section can be seen here. Which claims do you find sourced and acceptable, based on the claims and the references? For example, I find the salmonella claims long, dubious and not worth restoring. Claims about illness prevention and cure are very different than, say, relieving headaches. The diuretic and carminative claims are referenced, and don't seem particularly controversial to me. This is how I would rewrite the section (references to be restored):

Coriander has been used as a folk medicine for the relief of anxiety and insomnia in Iranian folk medicine. Experiments in mice support its use as an anxiolytic. Coriander seeds are also used in traditional Indian medicine as a diuretic by boiling equal amounts of coriander seeds and cumin seeds, then cooling and consuming the resulting liquid. In holistic and some traditional medicine, it is used as a carminative and for general digestive aid.

How does this sound to you? Do the references check out as reliable sources? I agree, Coriander is a nice spice, so let's give it a nice article. Cheers! Eliz81 19:07, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Hmmmm. Looks good. Couple of suggestions: you should really use WP:CITET for inline citations. Second, your third reference looks a bit spammish, meaning it looks like a commercial website, but I could be wrong. I actually like what you've written!!! See compromise is good. I've updated your first reference within your post above to make it fit with WP:CITET. Hope you don't mind. Note how if you use the PMID number in the id, you can click on it and go directly to the article's abstract. Some abstracts have a much better doi number, which also can be used. So, someone can quickly look at the reference, click to see the abstract, see the authors and journal, etc. Otherwise, there's a lot of cutting and pasting. You can also do the same for web sites. Note what I did on your second. I decided to delete your third reference, because it really is a spam site (meaning commercial). Orangemarlin 19:44, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I see I have been a wee bit naughty in the citing department! The cut n paste of the www address is just so easy. Twinkle should come up with a JS shortcut for the form or something. Thanks for fixing it up for me. Now I shall hunt down a better carmative/digestive reference... ah ha! Now I have added it, citations properly formatted. I found three possible citations I thought might be acceptable. Would you like to pick which one(s) are most agreeable? I didn't realize how many herbal sites were commercial, those took a while to find. Eliz81 20:07, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

It's fine, although the last three references are secondary. But I'm not too worried. The Foodee site is very spammish. I'd delete it, since you did a good enough job with the other two. Cut and paste it to the main article. I'd be careful with the section title. Maybe Potential medical uses. Give it a try. Orangemarlin 20:36, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Restored and titled as you suggested. Thanks for all your help. Can't wait to eat some yummy cilantro tonight!! :) Eliz81 21:18, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Wait a minute??? Coriander and cilantro are the same plant? Didn't know that. I hate cilantro. My office used to be next to a clinatro farm here in California, and I can't stand the stuff. But I love coriander in some foods. Hmmmm. Interesting. Orangemarlin 22:37, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh yeah. I had the "pleasure" of trying this stuff on my prime rib at a wedding a few months ago. Can we say dishwasher soap? I wish I knew what it tasted like to other people. Wikidan829 03:02, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

But it's what makes salsa so delicious! :) Eliz81 12:53, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

It's what ruins a good salsa. Blech. If Coriander and cilantro are the same thing, then you can write what you want here, because I know that cilantro will kill anything around. Throw cilantro on food, and I'd lose 10lbs a week. Yuck, yuck, yuck, I'm now nauseous. Orangemarlin 23:27, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

I've removed the assertions about coriander's use in treating mercury poisoning. It's just not supported in peer-reviewed literature, and the references that accompanied the claim are basically quack medical websites. Beastiepaws (talk) 00:34, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Dr. Omura's work showing cilantro's mercury chelation effects seems quite sound. I have linked to the Pubmed abstract of his work. See http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8914687?dopt=AbstractPlus for more info. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.118.124.38 (talk) 19:08, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

No. That's a single case cited in an acupuncture journal, not a scientific study.Beastiepaws (talk) 00:15, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Considering the significant popular content online on "detoxifying" uses of cilantro, could we add a section that acknowledges this, and also recognizes the lack of substantial scientific study on the matter? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danbig (talk • contribs) 15:39, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi folks. The german wiki has a stable medical use section with references: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echter_Koriander#Medizinische_Bedeutung I also heard about the heavy metal thing, if there is no study one should be done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.210.199.91 (talk) 10:58, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

References

Substitutes

I removed this text from the article, but if it can be cited, etc, it might be good to put some of it back. --Mdwyer (talk) 21:04, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

There is another type of plant which gives the same aroma like coriander and it is available in North Eastern India, cultivated in Shillong- the capital of Meghalaya State. It is a pair of leaves and is available only during winter months when coriander is not available. It's an excellent substitute.

Why would anyone want something with the same taste? Many people find cilantro leaves inedible because of their soap-like or mothball-like taste. 72.66.63.94 (talk) 00:57, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

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Categories

I've removed the category New Mexican cuisine. That category appears to be a list of dishes, not ingredients-- in any case, I think adding any cuisine that uses coriander would make a very long list. Beastiepaws (talk) 19:51, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Coriander in western europe cousine

---"Today western Europeans usually eat coriander leaves only in dishes that originated in foreign cuisines, except in Portugal, where they are still an ingredient in traditional dishes."--- This is totaly not true, in Spain coriander is widely used. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.155.24.22 (talk) 19:05, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Also not true in the UK. Carrot and coriander soup, traditional British fayre. Also many of the curries eaten in Europe actually originated in the Asian communities of the UK. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.6.35.235 (talk) 23:04, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Use as a drug

I've removed this section pending some sort of support for the claim that coriander is smoked in Vietnam. None of the sources offered so far even mention smoking. Beastiepaws (talk) 21:29, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Height

"growing to 50 centimetres" is probably misleading based on the fact that mine are mostly around 85cm tall and the tallest is 96cm. Can anyone confirm that my plants are/are not freaks? They look healthy enough with lots of seeds! Jimwrightbe (talk) 12:41, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

split cilantro

it deserves its own article

fact that it is leaves of coriander plant is possibly interesting

but "coriander" is ground seed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.193.24.148 (talk) 14:15, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

I disagree. AFAIK, coriander leaves are only called "cilantro" in the US and possibly Canada. The rest of the English-speaking world calls both the leaves and the seeds coriander. Beastiepaws (talk) 22:37, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Reference for "genetic component of soapy taste" is poor

The line "there appears to be a genetic component to the detection of 'soapy' versus 'herby' tastes" references a New York Times article, which, when you read it, actually mentions that possibility in passing but mostly dismisses it.

"Some people may be genetically predisposed to dislike cilantro, according to often-cited studies by Charles J. Wysocki of the Monell Chemical Senses Center in Philadelphia. But cilantrophobe genetics remain little known and aren’t under systematic investigation."

That's the extent to which the article goes in mentioning the possible "genetic component," but the whole rest of the article is actually about how chemists really think it's just about familiarity with the taste. The line in this article should probably be amended to refer to this other hypothesis, and maybe a better source should be found for the "genetic component" hypothesis? — Sam 63.138.152.135 (talk) 18:08, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

In addition, is the inclusion of this section perhaps giving undue weight to US sources? I've only ever seen American sources discuss this supposed soapy taste of coriander, I have never encountered it elsewhere. Maybe they exist, but I've never seen them. --EminentCluster (talk) 22:41, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Uses in world cuisine

I don't think the section about the use of coriander in the different culinary traditions of the world has been sufficiently researched or justified. I am spanish and I have never ever tasted coriander until I travelled to America. I have travelled widely across the mediterranean, and as far as I am aware it is not widely used anywhere in the region. We tend to use parsley leaves instead, which are similar in taste but don't seem to offend certain palates. Charles Dexter Ward (talk) 12:08, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Bible Mention

'The Bible mentions coriander in Exodus 16:31: "And the house of Israel began to call its name manna: and it was round like coriander seed, and its taste was like that of flat cakes made with honey."'

Why is this section in history? This doesn't seem relevant, and certainly not in that particular section. 216.59.124.162 (talk) 19:41, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Y Deleted irrelevant sentence. Bobfreshwater (talk) 21:06, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Unexplained revert

@Pepperbeast, you reverted my change to Coriander without any explanation.

The liquid unit pint is ambiguous; a US pint is short of an imperial pint by about 20%. My change was to clarify that the pint referred to in the article was a US pint. What was the purpose of your revert? MrDemeanour (talk) 06:26, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

I reverted because you weren't adding information. An Imperial pint is a little over a litre. A US pint is a little less. So unless you know the exact volume of the seeds in question, you aren't clarifying anything. PepperBeast (talk) 07:12, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

We are discussing a discrepancy of about 20%; that is not a trivial error. A pint is evidently a vague term; it is not clear to me why you object to clarifying that the pint referred to is a US pint. I guess it would be better if the quantity were denominated in metric units? MrDemeanour (talk) 23:11, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

We're discussing "about" half a litre. And a conversion from "about" half a litre to pints is indeed a vague measure. There is nothing here that specifies that "about" half a litre mentioned in the article is closer to a US pint than to an Imperial pint. The exact discrepancy between the two pints is neither here nor there. The issue is that you aren't adding clarity-- if anything, you're creating an illusion of accuracy not supported by the source. I'd be completely happy to leave it as "about half a litre" with no mention of pints at all, as I'm pretty sure pints aren't mentioned in the source. PepperBeast (talk) 23:30, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

I have deleted the parenthetical explanation of 'about half a litre' as 'a pint'. MrDemeanour (talk) 04:40, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Excellent. PepperBeast (talk) 20:58, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Citation for the link between "soapy toast" and genetic polymorphism

The article introduction currently reads:

Most people perceive the taste of coriander leaves as a tart, lemon/lime taste, but a smaller group of about 4–14% of people tested think the leaves taste like dish soap, linked to a gene which detects some specific aldehydes that are also used as odorant substances in many soaps and detergents.

The Huffington Post cites a web page [2], which cites a "study" from 23andMe according to a dead link, as well as a Youtube video that, in turn, cites directly 23andme's paper on Arxiv (so, with no indication of peer review, and in any case a primary source), as well as an editorial on Nature's website. That editorial refers to several primary sources, including 23andme's paper and at least one one peer-reviewed article.

I am replacing the original source with Nature's editorial and changing the wording to better express the uncertainty of the claim, as well as correcting the "4-14%" numbers (in the introduction) to reflect those given in the reference (3% to 21%). There might be some cleanup to do in the Taste and smell section's references (as well as its text).

I am not an expert in the domain, and have not surveyed the litterature correctly. If someone knows how to evaluate that claim better, I'll be very interested.

Clément Schreiner (talk) 14:25, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Corriander for the seeds and Cilantro for the plant

In the Etymology section, there's an uncited sentence that says: > Both cilantro and coriander are understood in Canada though the seeds are always called coriander. There seems to be some discussion about his in the talk page, so it seems to be supported in some way, but there's no source. Does anyone have a proper source on this? I'll add citation needed in the meantime. Rdelfin (talk) 15:23, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Soapy taste

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Article now reads: Some perceive an unpleasant "soapy" taste or a rank smell and avoid the leaves. My experience is that only some coriander tastes soapy. Some plants are not soapy at all, while others are so soapy as to be inedible. It may also have to do with storage and freshness. Does anyone else have this experience? More to the point, is there some way of avoiding the soapy plants? Piano non troppo (talk) 18:42, 26 July 2009 (UTC) Yes, I do, but a whol lot worse, the very smel makes me feal violently ill and weak, and the taste is worse than the smell of dog excrement. I absolutely DETEST coriander, I have hated it my entire life. Civilian knowledge (talk) 16:49, 8 May 2011 (UTC) Another contributor: I agree that possibly only some cor' tastes soapy. Based on a pot of cor' Ive just bought in a supermarket that tastes soapy, unpleasant, and i've not had that with 5+ previous pots bought. This is in the Netherlands. I'm 50yo & enjoyed cor' at least all my adult life. --77.163.66.189 (talk) 12:02, 1 July 2021 (UTC)