Talk:2008 Australian football code crowds

Why are the soccer crowds in there? Dont all the ones from the same season go into the 2007 section. InsteadOf (talk) 11:46, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

National teams and exhibition matches?

Why are we including Socceroo's matches and AFL exhibition games in the UAE? I thought this article was supposed to be comparing the domestic football competitions played in Australia? Bongomanrae (talk) 01:57, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree. Once the regular season of AFL, NRL and A-League start i'll keep those updated. Im not a fan of trial matches and international matches being in there. The Super14 games that are in Australia are easy to do. The thing is with S14 the South Africans don't post crowds and the kiwi's post approximations. Mike2680 (talk) 23:57, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

I also don't know how to colour code the A-League teams in the team summary table. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mike2680 (talk • contribs) 03:45, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

The AFL game in the UAE was not an exhibition game - it was a game from the NAB Cup. This article is not just comparing the main domestic football competitions played in Australia, but also other significant competitions and games in all of the four main football codes. The article is called "Australian football code crowds" - therefore all significant matches (be they international matches, exhibition games or otherwise) should be included. --Mattwinter (talk) 03:51, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

The NRL have had some preseason/trial games already. If the NAB cup is being included then the Rugby League pre-season matches should be also. I for one would scrap the preseason games, essentially trial games - and keep all the representative matches. You won't get copious doubling up of teams if it is done like this. Maybe just add them to the bottom table as people update the page, but leave the preseason stats out of the attendances by team table. Nice work with the page though Matt.Mike2680 (talk) 05:28, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

I see your point, but there were over 20 thousand people at the NAB cup last night - to me that's significant. You are right that it gets annoying with the duplication of teams - ideally that table should be upgraded so that each team could be listed on its own (ie. all home games in all competitions) - and then the stats could be divided up into different competitions.--Mattwinter (talk) 06:25, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

I've tried to make it more concise. There's no more doubling up of the teams in the attendance by team (aside from adelaide and melbourne when they play the ACL), whereas i've merged the preseason stats in much the same way the finals series stats are displayed. If you guys think it detracts from the article, one can always revert. Mike2680 (talk) 08:27, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I think that works fairly well now - I will add attendances for the A-league pre-season competition (although that is a long way away) - if anyone wants to do it for NRL and Super 14 that would be a good idea. Only problem is that in the team section there is no mention of the crowds that teams pull for finals matches or pre-season games. For now it is fine, I may have a play around with that section later... --Mattwinter (talk) 13:13, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Dubai

Why is there a match played in Dubai ? This article is supposed to be about attendances in Australia. --Rulesfan (talk) 00:40, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't think that the pre-season comps should form part of it - we'll ascertain the consensus view. In terms of completeness for the A-League and NRL i think it's better to include NZ games in that, then you can compare all teams with equal games played H&A Mike2680 (talk) 10:21, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

A-League 07/08 crowds ?

What happened to them ? The season runs through both years, why are attendances only counted in one ? --Rulesfan (talk) 00:44, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

The way all statistics are forumilated for seasons spanning multiple years, particularly cricket - the convention is to list the game or season in the year the match or series commenced. Mike2680 (talk) 10:19, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Attendances by code

Someone had the idea to put this category on the page. Whilst this is good in theory, it falls apart if one decides to pick and choose which pre-season and trial matches are included in the summary. I'm taking it off the main page and temporarily putting the template here until a more up to date or a more complete list of all the trials that people think is important to include in this page, can be found.

In order to directly compare sports, the total attendances for each major code are listed here. The colour-coding of the different codes is used throughout the article.

Code	Games Played	Total Crowd	Average Crowd
Association Football	1	50,969	50,969
Rugby Union	3	60,480	20,160
Australian Rules	12	177,168	14,764
Rugby League	0	0	0

• Crowds for Australian rules football include some games from the pre-season NAB Cup.
• So far, no crowds for Rugby League are included.
• Association Football attendances include the first World Cup qualifier played by the Socceroos.
• Rugby Union attendances include some games from the Super 14.

211.31.28.245 (talk) 06:08, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Idea to expand page

I had a few brain waves:

• Average attendance for stadiums
• Average attendance for state/city

Another very interesting but potentially very difficult one would be the amount of money raised off pure attendance. Calculated by using ticket prices. InsteadOf (talk) 01:31, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

It will be ruined by people who want to selectively include particular pre-season trial games whilst leaving others out and what have you, unfortunately. As for the money generated, you wouldn't know how many family / individual / group discounts were purchased unless you contacted each ground separately.