Talk:1917 Jaffa deportation

Article suffers from POV, incomplete information

There are a number of issues with this article. I would try to correct them, but (a) I am not sure even where to start, and (b) it is grading time. The Title is incorrect: this should be titled 1917 Evacuation of Palestinian cities. It is not just Jaffa, and despite the first paragraph, not about just Jews. This is shown by the evacuation of Gaza City. This Haaretz article (https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-the-1917-expulsion-of-tel-avivs-jews-seen-through-turkish-eyes-1.5477699) also shows that the cities were evacuated due to British attacks.Mcdruid (talk) 01:40, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

You are quite right. I think this article should be moved to "1917 evacuation of Gaza and Jaffa", or something like your title. Moving it isn't easy and will be opposed by some who like to have it presented as a primarily anti-Jewish event. Zero^talk 05:56, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

I agree also, subject to identifying a good scholarly source to base the corrected scope around. A similar thing happened at 1956–57 exodus and expulsions from Egypt – it was originally written from the perspective of Jewish history, and then shifted into its fuller context. Onceinawhile (talk) 08:09, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

Some proper context below:

• McMeekin, Sean (2015). The Ottoman Endgame: War, Revolution and the Making of the Modern Middle East, 1908-1923. Penguin Books Limited. ISBN 978-0-7181-9972-2. After the first British assault on Gaza had been-barely-repulsed on March 28, 1917, Djemal Pasha ordered the evacuation of Jaffa, forty miles north along the coast, for security reasons. There was nothing unusual about this decision in and of itself: Gaza too had been evacuated back in February prior to the British assault on it, as indeed commanders have always done with population centers located near active military fronts to clear a line of retreat for the defending army in case a breakthrough occurs. The trouble in Jaffa began with the timing, during Passover, which inevitably raised the hackles of the city's large Jewish population, concentrated in the northern district known as Tel Aviv. Jews were not singled out in Djemal's evacuation order: most of the city's Arabs (Muslims and Christians alike) were deported too. In fact, protests from local Jewish leaders were strong enough that Djemal actually gave Jews an extra week to get their affairs in order before leaving on April 6- the same day, as it turned out, that the United States entered the First World War. In the event, some ten thousand Ottoman subjects were deported from Jaffa into inland, desert Syria in April 1917, of which about one-third were Jewish. It was not the finest hour for Djemal or the Ottomans, but in the context of deportations in the empire or elsewhere during the war, it was rather a minor affair. This is not, however, what the world would be told about Jaffa. Little noticed or reported at the time, Djemal's deportations from this small yet strategic town on the coast of Palestine were transformed, in the course of May 1917, into a cause célèbre of the world Zionist cause. The key figure in the transformation was Sir Mark Sykes…

Onceinawhile (talk) 11:49, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

The article also needs translated titles and/or links adding to the purely Hebrew citations. Iskandar323 (talk) 15:18, 19 February 2023 (UTC)