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Desysop of Rodhullandemu This has generated much concern within the community, not least as to privacy issues; on the one hand, the Arbitration Committee claims that this should be dealt with "privately", but is not prepared to discuss with the editor involved why this should be so, since the online reasons for their decision are claimed to be available to any Wikipedia editor. Offline, as regards Wikipedia, there is a disjunction between private reasons for desysopping, and the public reasons given for that. The Arbitration Committee should decide whether it is prepared to depart from the principles of natural justice, and plough it's own, unaccountable, furrow, or realise that it is ultimately accountable to the community that elects it. On the latter point, it's irrelevant that an elected body can be thrown out when the next election occurs; this is not a parliamentary democracy. What matters more is that the ArbCom should be respectable as "fit for purpose", and this case shows that they are not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rodhullandemu (talk • contribs)
- I'll just add this: my desysop is NOT temporary when it is predicated upon conditions that may not be met, or even achievable. That's a deception that should be quashed from the start, and love me or hate me, I am at least entitled to due process. Rodhullandemu 01:45, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
- Wikipedia isn't "fair" and doesn't do "due process" (1) since it's a project, not a system of government. People feel like they get shafted all the time. Usually it's for the good of the project. Or so one hopes. ++Lar: t/c 04:29, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
- 1 - per se... sure, being fair and impartial and following norms and procedures is helpful to the project, since it helps keep volunteers involved, but it's not a hard and fast requirement.
- Rod, are you now saying that you would prefer this to be dealt with by a public case? The problems are not going to go away, and either the committee deals with you privately or it does it publically. So far, you have been unwilling to accept what was presented privately, but unwilling to have a case in public either.--Elen of the Roads (talk) 10:36, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
- Wikipedia isn't "fair" and doesn't do "due process" (1) since it's a project, not a system of government. People feel like they get shafted all the time. Usually it's for the good of the project. Or so one hopes. ++Lar: t/c 04:29, 1 March 2011 (UTC)