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Criteria[edit]

Hi, so sorry to have not been more active in contributing to this project (am swamped with writing projects IRL). Looking over many of the names, I'm wondering what is the criteria here for notability and how is Indigenous status determined? Thanks for any information, Yuchitown (talk) 03:48, 13 March 2017 (UTC)Yuchitown[reply]

Typically, indigenous status is determined by belonging to a recognized indigenous group. For Wikipedia purposes, being described as indigenous in reliable sources is sufficient. The notability is governed by WP:BIO or WP:AUTHOR and it would be advisable to investigate notability before starting an article. Catrìona (talk) 14:34, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Catrìona not necessarily so in the U. S. One must be enrolled in a tribe, or able to prove ancestry from a tribe and have a certification since 1990. For example, Willard Stone and Bert Seabourn both previously exhibited as Cherokee artists.[1], [2] Unable to prove their ancestry, Stone was allowed by the tribe to exhibit as Cherokee, but his family rejected the offer. Seabourn is only permitted to show as a "goodwill ambassador".[3] Sometimes it's tricky. Frankie Welch is identified by scholar Jessica Metcalfe (Chippewa) as Eastern Cherokee, but her article has been changed numerous times, i.e. from Cherokee to self-declared to having her affiliation removed entirely. As misappropriation is tricky, both an offense and a crime, better to err on the side of caution if ethnicity is changed/challenged, as even scholars can make errors or have used older documents when requirements were not as stringent. SusunW (talk) 15:05, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Rulan Tangen (Norwegian American/Filipino American) is still on your Indigenous women's list, but there has been more public discussion about her co-opting a false Indigenous identity for grant money recently. She is "hunka Lakota", which means a Lakota family adopted her, so that means she's an adopted member of that particular family and is different than a Lakota tribe adopting her a Lakota person. Yuchitown (talk) 16:13, 8 December 2020 (UTC)Yuchitown[reply]

new category: Indigenous women[edit]

I created a new category today, Indigenous women. It is redlinked, which I assume means that the MediaWiki magic just hasn't picked it up yet. I added Wilma Mankiller and the new article, Bagele Chilisa, to the category. AnaSoc (talk) 00:49, 7 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

AnaSoc categories are not allowed to be redlinked. I have no idea how to create non-diffusing categories, or even if this should be one. Perhaps an expert like Ser Amantio di Nicolao can help. SusunW (talk) 17:48, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

AnaSoc If the category's redlinked, it needs to be created - MediaWiki won't create it. That being said: we have Category:Native American women and its subcategories, for starters. Also, see Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2014_February_26#Category:Indigenous_women this CFD. I'm not sure it's the most useful category. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 18:14, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your work. There are many, many women (and others) who are indigenous but are not American Indian or Native American. At some point, it would be awesome to have Indigenous women to be a category. Thanks again.AnaSoc (talk) 01:35, 17 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]