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South East Faversham

I recently created an article for the planned town of South East Faversham. Any help with the article would be appreciated! Thank you, Thriley (talk) 19:21, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Big Six energy suppliers#Requested move 21 October 2021

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Big Six energy suppliers#Requested move 21 October 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. VR _talk 03:19, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

RfC

An RfC is open at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Wales#RFC: Should the monarch be included in Wales in Year articles?. Please comment there to generate a clear consensus. Peter Ormond 💬 17:57, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

RfC on use of quote in British nationality law article introduction

Members of this project might be interested in an RfC taking place at Talk:British nationality law#rfc E6F0D24. Cordless Larry (talk) 09:04, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

FAR for History of Sheffield

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Monarchy in the United Kingdom FAR

I have nominated Monarchy of the United Kingdom for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Z1720 (talk) 21:13, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

Discussion to unprotect Guy Standing (economist)

Talk:Guy Standing (economist) § Extended confirm protection too much? ––FormalDude ^talk 03:30, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

Category:Lists of Acts of the Parliament of the United Kingdom table markup

Notified: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics of the United Kingdom, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Law, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Lists. -- Asartea ^Talk ^| ^Contribs 14:11, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Currently Category:Lists of Acts of the Parliament of the United Kingdom contains a lot of pages using a horrible table markup seemingly involving tables within tables, and a template ({{Legislationuk}}) which is explicitly marked as not to be used directly, which relies on a alpha module. Its also bad enough that currently editors using VE can't edit them, because VE just spits out the raw wikitext. The easiest way to deal with it I think is to reach consensus on a better table design, and then use a (semi) automated way to mass replace them. See List of Acts of the 5th Session of the 51st Parliament of the United Kingdom for one example of what I mean. -- Asartea ^Talk ^| ^Contribs 14:07, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

AFAIK these pages are due to the work of Theknightwho (talk · contribs) six or seven months ago. I first spotted it when this became this. It's since been split down into separate pages for each year (example), despite the fact that Senedd Cymru rarely passes more than five or six new Acts each year. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 14:25, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

This is a case of a project getting interrupted while half-way done, and me not having had the time to properly sort it in the meantime for a few different reasons, not least of which being to ensure it’s not a complete mess to actually use.

In terms of a way forward, my preferred solution would be something that makes use of Wikdata for the structured data (i.e. the short/long titles, citations etc). This has already been uploaded to Wikidata by me going back to 1960, with more coming in time.

The actual formatting on the Wikipedia side obviously needs sorting out. While I think that the current layout is both aesthetic and functional for a reader, it’s obviously not in a fit state for any editor. Would be happy to brainstorm some solutions to this. I’d prefer if we didn’t just strip it right back, as a lot of the motivation for this was trying to ensure readability and accessibility, as I myself struggle with lengthy, bland tables of plain text. I have no issue with merging some of the annual lists, though.

Theknightwho (talk) 14:39, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Just as an addendum to this: the note that {{legislationuk}} was not to be called directly was added to the documentation in error by someone else. It has now been removed. Theknightwho (talk) 17:21, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

RFC on lead of devolution in the United kingdom

Their is an RFC going on here which may be of interest to editors who are interested in the UK.--Llewee (talk) 16:08, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Quatermass and the Pit under FA review

I have nominated Quatermass and the Pit for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here.--George Ho (talk) 05:04, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

There are some very specific concerns there that could really benefit from some UK-knowledgeable feedback. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 05:11, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

FAR for General aviation in the United Kingdom

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GA Reassessment

Staffordshire Bull Terrier has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 21:54, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Asquith_Xavier#Request_for_comment_on_images_in_this_article

If you have an opinion, please share. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:50, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Federalism in the United Kingdom

Could other editors please take a look at recent changes at Federalism in the United Kingdom. Another editor has been making major changes to that article, including moving it to a different title, without any discussion - other than claiming that their text is "much improved". I'd be grateful if other interested editors could make their views known so that we can have a proper discussion. Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:30, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Favor request - access to 1949 Daily Telegraph piece through Gale?

Hi all,

Non-UK editor here. Is there anyone here who has access to old Daily Telegraph articles through Gale? I'm trying to find the following:

"Obituary". The Daily Telegraph. 5 April 1949. p. 3.

I looked through Wikipedia:Gale, but it seems that we only have access to The Times historical articles with the Wikipedia subscription. Does anyone happen to have access through their UK library? Thank you in advance. Pilaz (talk) 09:10, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Neopaganism in the United Kingdom#Requested move 10 March 2022

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Neopaganism in the United Kingdom#Requested move 10 March 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 🐶 EpicPupper ^{(he/him | talk)} 04:00, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

Requesting inputs

Issue of Street grooming seems to have been inconclusively discussed twice in the past in 2012 and 2016 @ Talk:British Pakistanis. It seems to have come up again along with some preliminary edit warring episode etc @ Talk:British Pakistanis#STREET GROOMING.

Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' (talk) 10:09, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Important to note that the issue was probably resurrected because of recent official reports and recent changes to in legislation. The NCA has appealed for more victims to come forward and are expecting more prosecutions throughout 2022. So the issue has not gone away. e.g.

https://www.nationalcrimeagency.gov.uk/news/operation-stovewood-investigators-launch-new-appeal-for-victims-and-witnesses-to-come-forward

Fight against grooming gangs hindered by fear of being branded racist, says official | The Independent

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/crime/rotherham-grooming-more-than-1000-victims-identified-between-1997-and-2013-3542879

It's an ongoing issue. Koppite1 (talk) 10:44, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Might be worth giving WP:SPA a read. Your edits are falling into it and it. GimliDotNet (talk) 09:21, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

i disagree. It's contemporary news. Koppite1 (talk) 09:36, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

I haven’t commented on the validity of the news, but your edits are concerning as you seem to be focused purely on a single issue.

On topic the Yorkshire post link you’ve given by the way doesn’t mention Pakistanis, neither does the NCA link. The independent says you cannot draw a link between ethnicity and offences which is what the article was inferring before it was cleaned up. GimliDotNet (talk) 09:46, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Completely disagree. If you look through my editing history, i have commented on a range of topics--from Tennis, Formula 1, football and other things. I have only recently started to edit on the topic of race and crime and that was purely because the article was grossly unbalanced and only included black crimes with ZERO mention of crimes from other ethnicities. My edits have merely tried to address that GROSS inbalance which no one had the impetuous to rectify,

Yorkshire Post "The 20 men originally jailed were predominantly of British Pakistani descent and Mr Marshall confirmed that the suspects still under investigation are mainly from 'one community' but would not provide further details."

As for operation stovewood, it relates to Rotherham between 1997 and 2013. Rotherham child abuse: The background to the scandal - BBC News Koppite1 (talk) 10:20, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

I've been through your editing history. That's why WP:SPA is concerning me. GimliDotNet (talk) 10:39, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Completely disagree. If you go through my very first edits, they were mainly about F1-mainly Schumacher and Hamilton. Edits re race and crime is a recent thing and i'm merely adding other ethnicities as were requested by many contributors on the relevant talk page who were concerned about the inbalance on the article. There's even an official wiki notice on the page warning of the inbalance towards certain groups. Perhaps you would prefer. the article was kept to its original state looking at only black crime while other ethnicities get zero mention.... Koppite1 (talk) 11:06, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Your edits on formula one are from nearly 12 months ago. Other stuff existing is not an argument and your subtle accusations of racism are not going unnoticed. GimliDotNet (talk) 11:34, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

@Koppite1: Is your issue more to do with the article Race and crime in the United Kingdom‎‎ rather than British Pakistanis as it makes no sense to discuss black crime of any kind at British Pakistanis. GimliDotNet (talk) 13:38, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

We are going round in circles. Best end the discussion there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Koppite1 (talk • contribs) 14:04, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Spotlight on Corruption

I recently read about the organization Spotlight on Corruption. I have not been able to find out much about the history of the organization. Any help with sourcing would be appreciated. Thank you, Thriley (talk) 06:17, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

@Thriley: Found some history for you, expanded draft! PamD 10:12, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

@PamD: Thank you very much! Thriley (talk) 05:34, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Federalism in the United Kingdom

Another editor has been making numerous and very substantial edits to that article over the past few weeks, including changing the title to United Kingdom Federation (which has now been reverted). I haven't kept track of all the changes the editor has made - the last time I looked, some seemed to be OK, some seemed to be poor, and some seemed to be contentious and needing further discussion. None have been discussed on the article talk page. Other editors might like to take a look at what has been going on, and comment on the article talk page on whether the current version is an improvement, or not. Thanks. Ghmyrtle (talk) 18:54, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Requesting input

There seems to be a distinct lack of social issues being explained on articles such as British African-Caribbean people there is a particular issue with knife crime, high prison population, gang violence and low educational attainment which seems to be missing should it be added since other users are proposing adding certain social issues to other communities but when it comes to others they wish to white wash or deflect. I am an ethnic minority myself before anyone accuses me of racism. 90tillinfinitydue (talk) 07:42, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

You have made no effort to edit the article, and your only comment on that articles’ talk page (and the one above) failed WP:AGF. You need to adjust your attitude and edit collaboratively or your time here is going to be very short. Assuming good faith is a fundamental principle of Wikipedia, follow it or leave. GimliDotNet (talk) 09:01, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Please note I will not be dictated to when I have done nothing wrong. 90tillinfinitydue (talk) 10:58, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

As for the topic of crime this is just a suggestion and I did edit a few weeks I just want an opinion on it like Koppite1 did. 90tillinfinitydue (talk) 11:39, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources

I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like

John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14. (John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.)

and turns it into something like

John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.

It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{cite web}}, {{cite journal}} and {{doi}}.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

- Headbomb {t · c · p · b}

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Discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 May 3

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 May 3#Former constituencies, which is within the scope of this WikiProject. — DaxServer (t · m · c) 10:30, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

FAR for Roger Waters

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WikiProject Current events 2022 monkeypox outbreak task force

Just alerting editors that the WikiProject of Current Events now has a task force to cover the ongoing 2022 monkeypox outbreak. Feel free to join if you want to help. Elijahandskip (talk) 06:42, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Draft:National Hedgelaying Society

Hello, I recently created a draft for the National Hedgelaying Society. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you, Thriley (talk) 22:52, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

FAR for Coronation of the British monarch

I have nominated Coronation of the British monarch for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Z1720 (talk) 14:56, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Dom Phillips, missing British journalist

I recently created a draft for journalist Dom Phillips. He went missing on Sunday while on a remote part of the Brazilian Amazon. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you, Thriley (talk) 00:09, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

RfC on sorting churches

Members of this project may be interested in Wikipedia talk:Categorization#Request for Comment on sorting of UK churches in categories in English Wikipedia PamD 06:52, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Knave and Fiesta magazines: defunct?

Have the venerable British softcore porn magazines Knave and Fiesta ceased publishing? I can't find any sign of recent publication of either, nor any mention of it in WP:RS. Presumably the Audit Bureau of Circulation ( https://www.abc.org.uk/ ) or similar will have some record of this?

An issue of Fiesta was published in 2020, according to their Twitter account, but I can't see anything after that. The magazine's website stopped working some time after that. This magazine collector's site (warning: pictures of porn magazine covers) suggests the final issue was Volume 54, number 4, in 2020.

Knave seems to have been publishing as late as 2015, and their website shut down around the same time. Their twitter account last posted in 2014. The same magazine collector's site (warning: pictures of porn magazine covers) seems to suggest the last issue was Volume 47, number 4, in July 2015.

Any thoughts? — The Anome (talk) 12:07, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

First, identify an independent newsagent with all-male staff in a town that you can reach, but where you're not well known. Get a grubby raincoat and turn the collar up, wear a hat pulled well down. Then, when there are no females and small children present, check out the top shelf. When somebody asks if they can help, say nothing but buy a can of fizzy drink and a bag of crips (pay cash, because cards can be tracked). Get out of town and deny everything. Don't do back in case you get caught. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:49, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

That is the best talk page comment ever. You have officially won Wikipedia, and I take my hat off to you. I'll get my coat. — The Anome (talk) 23:33, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

At the risk of being reverted again, I'll offer this: the kind of people who would have bought those magazines in the past probably now have other means for finding interesting images at a much lower price and in much greater quantities. I'd be surprised if any of those magazines are still in business unless they've switched to a web edition. If they are still being published, then by law, copies must be deposited at the British Library, who do have a catalogue entry, so you could pop along and ask them. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:11, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

I'd also point our that my request above was a serious one; and thanks, Redrose64 for the BL links. Pornography is interesting in a wider social context exactly because it is ephemeral -- expected merely to be used and discarded -- exactly because it was never written for the record, it carries the biases and attitudes of its time encoded in it in way that can be, unintended by its creators, far more revealing than "serious" works. — The Anome (talk) 21:34, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Should Earl and Jarl be split?

Please comment at Talk:Earl#Split article? to give your opinion on whether text on the Scandinavian jarl should be moved to Jarl (title), which currently redirects to Earl. Thanks. Ltwin (talk) 01:54, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

Help with Dan Wagner, entrepreneur article

I proposed a few updates to improve the quality of the Dan Wagner article here Talk:Dan_Wagner#Request_Edits_April_2022, and am hoping an independent editor could review the proposals. I have a conflict of interest and shouldn’t directly edit the article myself. Can someone in the project take a look at the request? Best wishes. W12SW77 (talk) 19:03, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Russian money in London neutrality

Stumbled upon the Russian money in London article, I think it has major problems with neutrality and would benefit from attention of more editors. Looks like a POV fork of Russians in the United Kingdom, however I don't think a merge would be a solution due to WP:WEIGHT. PaulT2022 (talk) 06:58, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Team Wales Roller Derby

Hi - new to wiki writing and editing so be kind. I wrote and submitted an article on Team Wales Roller Derby and it’s been rejected due to quality of sources. I had at least a few press articles cited and it’s the only UK national team that doesn’t have its own article. Can anyone give me some tips please? Pumathurman (talk) 07:46, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Pound sterling § RfC planning

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Pound sterling § RfC planning. NotReallyMoniak (talk) 18:11, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Olivia Newton-John has an RFC

Olivia Newton-John has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Polyamorph (talk) 10:28, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

Cherry Valentine: Gypsy Queen and Proud

New stub: Cherry Valentine: Gypsy Queen and Proud. Improvements welcome! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:40, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

RFC on pound sterling

At talk:Pound sterling#Request for comment, there is an RFC on the opening paragraph that has run into the sand. Maybe someone from this WP can see the wood for the trees? John Maynard Friedman (talk) 11:40, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

Death and state funeral of Queen Elizabeth II

I don’t want to make assumptions about the health of the Queen, but it appears that a working draft would be helpful to start gathering information: Draft:Death and state funeral of Queen Elizabeth II. Thriley (talk) 15:59, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

RfC on the United Kingdom as a "sovereign country"

I have opened an RfC concerning the description of the UK as a "sovereign country" in its lead paragraph.

Neutral editors are encouraged to carefully consider the question, to read some of the existing positions in the survey, and to leave their own comment either opposing any change or supporting an alternative. Thanks! Angry Candy (talk) 11:30, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Welsh Revolt § Breverton does not seem to be a good source

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Welsh Revolt § Breverton does not seem to be a good source. Jr8825 • Talk 23:34, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Cherry Valentine

Project members are invited to review Cherry Valentine ahead of a possible Good article nomination. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:05, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

FAR notice

I have nominated Elizabeth II for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. John (talk) 15:01, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!

Hello,
Please note that Countries of the United Kingdom, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of the Articles for improvement. The article is scheduled to appear on Wikipedia's Community portal in the "Articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing!
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White people in the United Kingdom

Coming across White people in the United Kingdom, it struck me that much of it has an odd air to it. The impression of the advancement of a thesis rang a bell with me, particularly the stylistic choice of advancing the views of chosen academics and commentators in the article text, rather than only in the ref itself. It came as no surprise that the originator and major contributor was the same as for the now-deleted Scots Gaelic people and Lowland Scots people articles, similarly afflicted. Per these deleted articles, this one can't seem to make its mind quite what it is about.

To take an example, already raised at the talk page, is the Notable contributions section. The very title elicits a raised eyebrow. Contributions to what exactly? The inclusions seem bafflingly arbitrary, with no apparent criteria for inclusion. Not until the common theme of the bulk of the references becomes apparent: mention or involvement in controversies about race or diversity. A section on such controversies may or may not be pertinent to the article but, if it is, it should be discussed in such terms, rather than the hidden theme behind a section which purports to be something - if nebulous - else. There may be no political intent behind this aggregation but, whatever the merits of the various controversies, it makes one wonder if and what; some of the possibilities less than savoury, particularly termed as "contributions". It may be, on the other hand, the product of googling names and search terms such as "white", "ethnicity", "race" or goodness knows what, to compile a list of individuals. If so, no wonder the result is so weird.

Other sections are similarly afflicted, the intent behind them open to question. Mutt Lunker (talk) 23:37, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

It may be, on the other hand, the product of googling names and search terms such as "white", "ethnicity", "race" or goodness knows what - this is my impression of most of the sections in the article. I'm not sure if it meets WP:N: I didn't notice any sources on "White people in the United Kingdom" (as opposed to inter-racial relations or sources about specific white persons) after reading the lead, the first few sections and skimming the references. PaulT2022 (talk) 00:07, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

"I'm not sure if it meets WP:N"

Disagree with this for the whole article, the article is notable and should be used as a broader article for the multi-ethnic classification similarly to other articles such as British Mixed, for example. Tweedle (talk) 21:58, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

That function is fulfilled by e.g. White British, White Irish, White Gypsy or Irish Traveller. This hotchpotch does not fit with these classifications. Mutt Lunker (talk) 23:32, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

No but it does fill the gap of covering the broader group's demographics etc. We wouldn't delete Asian British just because we already cover some of it to some extent under British Indians and British Pakistanis (or perhaps that article has the same problems as White people in the UK, considering the majority of it was written by the same guy... I still don't think it should be deleted.) Tweedle (talk) 23:48, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

You're the only one discussing deletion of the article. The issue is the dubious and arbitrary nature of the content. Mutt Lunker (talk) 23:53, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Oh, well I assumed that it would be put under the sword because somebody brought up notability issues. Apologises. Tweedle (talk) 23:57, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

It would be helpful to provide examples of references used in White people in the United Kingdom that meet the "Significant coverage" addresses the topic directly and in detail requirement of WP:N.

British Mixed at least has one (https://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ukgwa/20160105160709/http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/ethnicity/focus-on-ethnicity-and-identity/who-are-the--mixed--ethnic-group-/who-are-the--mixed--ethnic-group--article.pdf), although it isn't independent of the subject. PaulT2022 (talk) 23:24, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Merger discussion for Operation Kingfisher (Brexit)

An article which may be of interest to members of this project—Operation Kingfisher (Brexit)—has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. 49.147.253.47 (talk) 07:48, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

Merger discussion for Operation Black Swan (Brexit)

An article which may be of interest to members of this project—Operation Black Swan (Brexit)—has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. 49.147.253.47 (talk) 07:48, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

Pippa Woods, small family farms advocate, has died

I recently created a draft for Pippa Woods. Any help in finding sources would be appreciated. Thriley (talk) 18:00, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

Small club for older people to edit Wikipedia

I'm looking into the possiblity of setting up a small club in Luton for local people to come along and learn about editing Wikipedia.

Our target audience is older people without formal education and with lowish digital skills, we'd be running functionally like a student assignment with a set of articles about local topics to create/improve but a lot of the club time will be using Wikipedia as an execuse to teach a lot of other digital skills.

I might not be asking in the right place, but does anyone know of any other UK projects that took a similar approach of 'teaching other digital skills while also improving the Wiki'? Or indeed, does anyone know something they think I should know in general?

Joe (talk) 12:01, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

It would be worth contacting Wikimedia UK who have lots of materials which would be helpful & experience supporting these sorts of actvities with a wide range of groups.— Rod ^talk 12:33, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics of the United Kingdom has an RFC

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics of the United Kingdom has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Colonestarrice (talk) 10:34, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

Merger discussion for Jurisdictions of the United Kingdom

An article which may be of interest to members of this project—Jurisdictions of the United Kingdom—has been proposed for merging with Law of the United Kingdom. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. XAM2175 ^(T) 20:18, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Discussion at Template talk:Infobox university § Add Visitor as a field

You are invited to join the discussion at Template talk:Infobox university § Add Visitor as a field. Robminchin (talk) 02:25, 5 February 2023 (UTC) Robminchin (talk) 02:25, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for The Scout Association

The Scout Association has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Femke (alt) (talk) 09:50, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Eldred Evans, architect

I just created an article for Eldred Evans. She worked on 150 projects between 1964 and 2008, including Tate St Ives. Thriley (talk) 15:57, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

FAR for Edgar Speyer

User:Buidhe has nominated Edgar Speyer for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:20, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Ian Gibbons (biochemist)

Ian Gibbons (biochemist) -- was the Chief Scientist of Theranos, who took his own life amid controversy over the company's technology. Recently expanded article and nominated for Good Article consideration. Thank you, Princessa Unicorn (talk) 03:07, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

RfC for removing post-nominals from lead sentences to article bodies

Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography#Proposal: Moving post-nominals from lead sentences to article bodies An RFC that may be of interest to editors here. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 23:05, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

WP:CIII "task force"

As this Wikiproject is listed as considering the B-Grade article Charles III as Top Importance, dropping by to notify you of an attempt to organise some sort of effort to improve it at least one quality notch. 109.255.211.6 (talk) 04:27, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Update for Covid-19 Bereaved Families for Justice

Hi there - an article that I created (Covid-19 Bereaved Families for Justice) is in need of an update/overhaul re new information. If anyone is interested in this topic area I would greatly appreciate some more eyes on this. 82.23.242.26 (talk) 18:07, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Cherry Valentine

Cherry Valentine has been nominated for Featured article status. Article improvements and feedback welcome. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:36, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Move discussion

Please offer input in Talk:2013_Yorkshire_Bank_40#Requested_move_27_March_2023. Thank you! – CityUrbanism 🗩 🖉 18:45, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

RFC being held, concerning British royal family

Input would be appreciated at RFC being held, concerning the British royal family. GoodDay (talk) 03:36, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Project-independent quality assessments

Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Wikipedia:Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a |class= parameter to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.

No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.

However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass {{WPBannerMeta}} a new |QUALITY_CRITERIA=custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 22:10, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

England, Scotland, etc. vs UK in concert articles

There is a discussion regarding the use of England, Scotland, etc. versus UK in lists of concert locations. Please add any comments at WT:WikiProject Concerts#England, Scotland, etc. vs UK. Thanks. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:37, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

Leadership approval opinion polling for the next United Kingdom general election

The page Leadership approval opinion polling for the next United Kingdom general election is out of date and missing a lot of content in multiple respects. Every section is at least months out of date. Nicola Sturgeon's polling on this page hasn't been updated since 2021 and there is nothing for the SNP's current leader Humza Yousaf. Some other sections, such as that of the Green Party of England and Wales' current leaders Carla Denyer and Adrian Ramsay haven’t had any information added at all since they became the party's co-leaders. Can someone please update this page and add missing information such as for that of the Greens etc? Helper201 (talk) 21:44, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

British people by ethnicity and occupation category deletion discussion

Of possible interest: [1] — Biruitorul ^Talk 22:07, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

RfC at Charles III

Hello--There's an open RfC Talk:Charles III#RfC on opening sentence that welcomes input. ₪ MIESIANIACAL 17:51, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Abdulhadi Mana Al-Hajri, the owner of the Ritz

I created a stub for Abdulhadi Mana Al-Hajri, the current owner of The Ritz Hotel, London. Any help would be appreciated. Thriley (talk) 19:10, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

The SVG file for the Union Jack is wrong

Although the png image on the wikipedia page shows the correct Union Jack, when you click the link to download the svg file, the resulting file is completely incorrect. The red diagonals on three of the stripes are much too thick. Stevemulvey (talk) 09:37, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

@Stevemulvey: Presumably you mean File:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg. It looks fine to me. I don't think that the exact dimensions are laid down in law, except that the upper edges of the red diagonals in the hoist, and the lower edges of the red diagonals in the fly, coincide with imaginary lines drawn from corner to corner. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:18, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

There are "approved" dimensions: https://www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/resources/union-flag-approved-designs

I can't tell the difference between the SVG and the official PDF visually. PaulT2022 (talk) 01:05, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the response Redrose64‬, I have re-downloaded the SVG file, and although it looks fine when previewing it with the default Mac app "Preview" - it definitely appears incorrect when you open the file in Adobe Illustrator.

Very strange, I have never seen this happen before in my 35 years of creating digital artwork with Adobe. Stevemulvey (talk) 06:35, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Some agents have difficulties with the <clipPath>...</clipPath> element. It is suggested at the SVG 1.1 spec that they be placed inside a <defs>...</defs> element. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:00, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Dialling codes in the Untied Kingdom

Following the deletion of one article, and nomination of 6 others for deletion, without any attempt to discuss the set of articles systematiccay, I have initiated a centralised discussion intended to do just that at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Telecommunications#Dialling codes in the United Kingdom; please leave comments there. Thryduulf (talk) 23:16, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

FAR for William Wilberforce

User:Buidhe has nominated William Wilberforce for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 05:24, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

Privy Council

Is there a reason why privy council membership isnt indicated by adding PC after the name at the beginning of the article like with all the royal societies and other awards and orders? Especially for politicians its mostly buried somewhere in the article or not mentioned at all. Was there a previous discussion on this? --jonas (talk) 18:19, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

It's not necessary if the article shows the honorific prefix "The Right Honourable". --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:37, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Deprecated language in citations in UK honours lists

There is a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Orders, Decorations, and Medals/Archive 7#Deprecated language in citations for UK honours about whether citations should be updated to today's language, eg changing the 1980 "For service to the disabled." to "For service to disabled people." Members of this Wikiproject may have a view: please comment there. PamD 17:10, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Llancaiach Fawr#Requested move 28 April 2023

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Llancaiach Fawr#Requested move 28 April 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. EggRoll97 ^(talk) 00:25, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

Prince Charles or Charles III??

On Wikipedia, when referring to Charles III before he became king, should he be referred to as Charles III or Prince Charles, because alot of articles still refer to him as "Prince Charles" and on today's featured article, I changed "Prince Charles" to "Charles III" but it got changed back. GoldenBootWizard276 (talk) 11:27, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

FAR for The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (radio series)

User:Buidhe has nominated The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (radio series) for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 04:04, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Citations needed on Prime Minister of the United Kingdom

The history section of Prime Minister of the United Kingdom is completely unsourced. I am pretty sure all that is needed is a transfer of references from History of the prime minister of the UK, but my modern history is crap, and I'm not comfortable doing it myself.

If anybody with a better grounding than me wants to give it a go, it would be great. I don't think we should have an unsourced section on such an important article. Boynamedsue (talk) 08:51, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Feedback and Review requried: UK-Pakistan Judicial Protocol on Children Matters (2003)

Hi there - an article that I created UK-Pakistan Judicial Protocol on Children Matters (2003) is in need of a feedback and review. If anyone is interested in this topic area I would greatly appreciate some more eyes on this. 147.188.245.156 (talk) 15:17, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

West Norfolk and Lynn Hospital

I just created this little article. I suspect a local could come up with a good deal more on the place; the hospital seems to have been fairly prominent in the late nineteenth century, there are lots of articles in the medical journals from doctors there. Brianyoumans (talk) 18:38, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

RfC on List of tallest buildings in the United Kingdom

Hi, I've requested comment on List of tallest buildings in the United Kingdom regarding a dispute about different definitions being used determine which city a tall building is located in.

See RfC about the use of different definitions of a city

ChiZeroOne (talk) 18:27, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

FAR for Isle of Portland

User:Buidhe has nominated Isle of Portland for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 04:52, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

UK article too long?

Comments welcome here about whether to trim the United Kingdom article, or how to do so. Meticulo (talk) 14:48, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

Request for peer review of Victorian era

I've been working on the article about the Victorian era a great deal this year and have recently got it to good article status. I'm hopping to get it to featured article status over the next few months which would be my first featured article. What kind of changes do you think would be needed to get their?

Link to peer review page: Wikipedia:Peer review/Victorian era/archive1 Llewee (talk) 14:42, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

Request draft review

I am requesting a review of my draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:List_of_RAF_Regiment_equipment RAFRegtRockApe (talk) 20:34, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

Move discussion for William of the United Kingdom

(non-automated message) Greetings, members of WikiProject United Kingdom! I have initiated a move request here that pertains to multiple princes of the United Kingdom. While participation is optional, I would appreciate any feedback! (Please note that I have not initiated this process before, so I apologize if this message is unnecessary.) Hurricane Andrew (444) 23:26, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

FAR for His Majesty's Theatre, London

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Featured Article Save Award for His Majesty's Theatre, London

There is a Featured Article Save Award nomination at Wikipedia talk:Featured article review/His Majesty's Theatre, London/archive1. Please join the discussion to recognize and celebrate editors who helped assure this article would retain its featured status. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:02, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Andrew Malkinson

Thought I should notify this WikiProject of the above article, which has been recently created. --GnocchiFan (talk) 16:44, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

Credibility bot

As this is a highly active WikiProject, I would like to introduce you to Credibility bot. This is a bot that makes it easier to track source usage across articles through automated reports and alerts. We piloted this approach at Wikipedia:Vaccine safety and we want to offer it to any subject area or domain. We need your support to demonstrate demand for this toolkit. If you have a desire for this functionality, or would like to leave other feedback, please endorse the tool or comment at WP:CREDBOT. Thanks! Harej (talk) 17:45, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

FL Removal Review

I have nominated BBC Sports Personality of the Year Coach Award for featured list removal. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:31, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Mudlarking: Lost and Found on the River Thames

I saw Draft:Mudlarking: Lost and Found on the River Thames. While it is currently barebones, it does looks promising. Thriley (talk) 20:26, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Northern Irish nationalism for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Northern Irish nationalism is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Northern Irish nationalism until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

Kpratter (talk) 07:10, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Gardnerian Wicca § RfC on Open Letter

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Gardnerian Wicca § RfC on Open Letter. Peaceray (talk) 00:30, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Milk quota#Requested move 7 September 2023

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Milk quota#Requested move 7 September 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – Material Works 17:05, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

Women in Green's 5th Edit-a-thon

Hello WikiProject United Kingdom:

WikiProject Women in Green is holding a month-long Good Article Edit-a-thon event in October 2023!

Running from October 1 to 31, 2023, WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) is hosting a Good Article (GA) edit-a-thon event with the theme Around the World in 31 Days! All experience levels welcome. Never worked on a GA project before? We'll teach you how to get started. Or maybe you're an old hand at GAs – we'd love to have you involved! Participants are invited to work on nominating and/or reviewing GA submissions related to women and women's works (e.g., books, films) during the event period. We hope to collectively cover article subjects from at least 31 countries (or broader international articles) by month's end. GA resources and one-on-one support will be provided by experienced GA editors, and participants will have the opportunity to earn a special WiG barnstar for their efforts.

We hope to see you there!

Grnrchst (talk) 13:53, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:William IV#Requested move 14 September 2023

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:William IV#Requested move 14 September 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – Material Works 17:12, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

PSTN switch-off in the UK

I've created an article on the forthcoming United Kingdom PSTN switch-off, which is already starting to happen with the stop-sale of some new copper network products. I'm sure my article is greatly over-simplified; if any proper UK telecoms wonks are reading, could you please fill in the fine technical and commercial details on this? — The Anome (talk) 14:52, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Categorization request regarding BBC

Would someone be willing to implement the outcome of Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2020_August_22#Category:BBC_Television_shows? Thank you. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:47, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of List of eldest sons of earls in the peerages of Britain and Ireland for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of eldest sons of earls in the peerages of Britain and Ireland is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of eldest sons of earls in the peerages of Britain and Ireland until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

GoldenBootWizard276 (talk) 06:08, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

RfC of interest

(non-automated message) Greetings to all members of WP:UK! I have opened an RfC on WT:ROYALTY that may be of interest to users of this WikiProject! You are encouraged to contribute to this discussion here! Hurricane Andrew (444) 23:04, 23 November 2023 (UTC)