Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history/Weaponry categories

Categorisation[edit]

"It is recommended to avoid using the conflict where the weapon served as a basis of categorization. The weapon may have been phased out very early, arrived very late, used only in highly limited quantities, served very little action and/or been in multiple conflicts."

I can agree with these objections, but I have to say that I don't like categorisation by decade either, especially in the case of categories like German World War II tanks. With per decade clarification, you get the panzer I-IV in one category and the Panther, Tiger and Koningstiger in another, rather then grouped together.

How many people will be interested in knowing about German tanks between 1930-39 rather than German tanks in World War II?

My proposal: keep the per decade classification, but also maintain the "World War II country weapons" classification.

--Martin Wisse 05:30, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

The problem with the dual categorization is that both trees for such are very large and cumbersome (each category has roughly three parents and they have about three parents and so on. Do this several times (say for a vehicle that was in WWII, Vietnam and Korea and likely several other smaller conflicts and it's overwhelming)). We're also trying to standardize with the current plane categorizing system.

I do agree with you in the belief that people will also want to locate via conflict, but I think templates and listpages are sufficient.

What I propose is a compromise: On the Category Information Section (CIS), the part of the category which users can edit, we include relevant lists and templates (for example: On Category:German tanks (1930-1939), we'd include a link to list of World War II German tanks and the template that's on those pages. Oberiko 12:38, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

That certainly is a compromise I can live with. --Martin Wisse 23:54, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)

May I suggest that when categorizing ships that care is taken when catgorizing entire classes? An entire class of ships often serves over multiple decades and in multiple wars. The Fletcher-class was built for World War II. All the ships were built in the 1940s. Many ships were scrapped shortly after 1945, but others served for years and decades beyond. The last Fletcher decommissioned in 2001 after service in the Mexican Navy.

Also, other classes are built over decades. PCU George H. W. Bush is currently in Category:Nimitz class aircraft carriers and therefore in Category:U.S. Navy aircraft carriers (1970-1979) and she hasn't even been built yet. Jinian 01:47, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Guided missiles[edit]

I have proposed a series of guidelines for guided missile categorization which can hopefully be adopted as a guideline by the project. Josh 18:58, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello dear Josh!

Just accidentally i came across this disk dated from 2006. In other Projects the coordination concerning weaponry is not always treated as a part of Mil-Hist. In en:WP you can see a small area which is treated by Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Firearms in other projects you might find other colleagues who treat concerning weaponry in a broader idea. See:

WikiProject Military history / Firearms International
  Discussions: Military history / Firearms
      Discussions:    Forces canadiennes
      Diskussionen: Militär / Waffen
      Discussions:    Histoire militaire / Armes
      Discussions:    Portal‐ノート:軍事 /
      Discussioni:     Guerra / Armi da fuoco
      Discussions:     بوابة:الحرب  نقاش البوابة
      Dyskusje:         Militaria / Broń
∑ Interntl. 1 <--> ∑ Interntl. 2

Within german Wikipedia we threat weaponry since 2006 from both sides: military isssues and technical issues.

de:Kategorie:Militärtechnik see subcat grafics (needs patience)
de:Kategorie:Waffentechnik see subcat grafics

Your introducing question was concerning "guided missiles" which are part of Precision-guided munition.

Here they are mostly included in Category:Cruise missiles.

In de:WP you can see a parallel organization of this in de:Kategorie:Marschflugkörper with it's graphically hierarchic bottom-up-dependences.

Hope this could help you after all this years. Best --Ｔｏｍ (talk) 09:28, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]