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1945 - Elbe Day

This has potential, but it's still a stub, and the people involved are mostly redlinks. Maybe in future. -- PFHLai 02:54, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Chernobyl accident" should now be "Chernobyl disaster" as per the page move, an admin should fix this today if they have the chance. --Matthew 05:15, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. Fixed that already on "tomorrow's" Sel. Anniv. template. Thanks for pointing this out. -- PFHLai 18:43, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

2012 notes[edit]

Omitted: Ming Dynasty; San Remo conference; USS Triton (SSRN-586)/Operation Sandblast
Included: La Marseillaise (5th appearance, last in 2007; rescued from Ineligible); Spanish–American War (6th appearance, last in 2010); Gallipoli Campaign (9th appearance, last in 2010); Molecular Structure of Nucleic Acids: A Structure for Deoxyribose Nucleic Acid (6th appearance, last in 2010)
Repeats: Rebellion Losses Bill (first appearance; blurb previously featured Burning of the Parliament Buildings in Montreal, which is ineligible due to maintenance)

—howcheng {chat} 05:45, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2013 notes[edit]

Omitted: La Marseillaise (ineligible—maintenance); Rebellion Losses Bill; Spanish–American War; Gallipoli Campaign (ineligible—maintenance)
Included: Ming Dynasty (5th appearance, last in 2011); Guillotine (7th appearance, last in 2010; moved from September 10); Lapland War (first appearance); Violeta Chamorro (first appearance); Amagasaki rail crash (2nd appearance, last in 2007; rescued from Ineligible)
Repeats: Molecular Structure of Nucleic Acids: A Structure for Deoxyribose Nucleic Acid (2nd consecutive appearance, 7 total; 60th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 06:09, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2014 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: San Remo conference (maintenance)
Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Thornton Affair
Omitted: Ming dynasty; Guillotine; Lapland War; Molecular Structure of Nucleic Acids: A Structure for Deoxyribose Nucleic Acid; Violeta Chamorro; Amagasaki rail crash (ineligible—maintenance)
Included: Elbe Day (first appearance); La Marseillaise (6th appearance, last in 2012; rescued from Ineligible); Battle of Marks' Mills (first appearance; 150th anniversary); Landing at Anzac Cove/Gallipoli Campaign (Cove: first appearance (was previously ineligible); Gallipoli: 10th appearance, last in 2012); USS Triton (SSRN-586) (both: 2nd appearance, last in 2011); Mswati III (3rd appearance, last in 2007; rescued from Ineligible)

—howcheng {chat} 06:43, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Protected edit request on 25 April 2014[edit]

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The feast day for St. Mark the Evangelist (within Christianity) is today, April 25.

L. Thomas W. (talk) 13:13, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit protected}} template. --Redrose64 (talk) 14:09, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Done. —howcheng {chat} 16:06, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Request: 2014[edit]

I don't know if it's too late to be added, but today is the 40th anniversary of the Carnation Revolution in Portugal, which toppled the nearly 50-year old "Estado Novo" dictatorship and set in motion the independence of Angola, Mozambique, etc. A significant marker. Walrasiad (talk) 15:58, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Carnation Revolution has a big orange maintenance box on the very top, and per the rules, cannot be included. —howcheng {chat} 16:07, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2015 notes[edit]

New articles (unused): Saint Lawrence Seaway (previously appeared on June 26 back in 2006)
Omitted: La Marseillaise (ineligible—maintenance); Battle of Marks' Mills; USS Triton (SSRN-586); Mswati III
Included: Ming dynasty (6th appearance, last in 2013); Rebellion Losses Bill/Burning of the Parliament Buildings in Montreal (both: 2nd appearance; Bill: last in 2012; Burning: last in 2011); Lapland War (2nd appearance, last in 2013; 70th anniversary); Violeta Chamorro (2nd appearance, last in 2013; 25th anniversary)
Repeats: Landing at Anzac Cove/Gallipoli Campaign (both: 2nd consecutive appearance; Landing: 2 total; Gallipoli: 11 total)

—howcheng {chat} 07:04, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2016 notes[edit]

Deleted: Italian resistance movement (we already have Liberation Day (Italy) for the observance)
Moved to Ineligible: Spanish–American War (maintenance); Saint Lawrence Seaway (maintenance)
Omitted: Rebellion Losses Bill/Burning of the Parliament Buildings in Montreal; Landing at Anzac Cove/Gallipoli Campaign; Lapland War; Violeta Chamorro
Included: Battle of Bagrevand (first appearance); Thornton Affair (first appearance); Molecular Structure of Nucleic Acids: A Structure for Deoxyribose Nucleic Acid (8th appearance, last in 2013); Mswati III (4th appearance, last in 2014)
Repeats: Ming dynasty (2nd consecutive appearance, 7 total)

—howcheng {chat} 06:27, 24 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Addendum: Thornton Affair removed for Main Page balance. —howcheng {chat} 15:51, 25 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Howcheng: Since you seem to be maintaining this... would it be controversial to remove Red Hat Society Day? Yes, I realize that membership is not "based solely on how important or significant their subjects are," but this is seriously obscure. There is a mighty one line in the linked article: "The official Red Hat Society day is April 25 each year.[14]" Nothing about commemoration, any indication people celebrate it, why they picked that day, nothing. Doesn't seem like other random social clubs should get on OTD by simply decreeing a day to be their "society day." SnowFire (talk) 23:59, 25 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, I guess I never really read that article. Its inclusion predates me and I just kept it in because of inertia. It does seem rather obscure and unworthy of inclusion. —howcheng {chat} 21:29, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

2017 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: La Marseillaise (maintenance); Guillotine (maintenance); Battle of Marks' Mills (maintenance)
Omitted: Mark the Evangelist (ineligible—maintenance); Anzac Day (ineligible—maintenance); Liberation Day (Italy) (ineligible—maintenance); Elbe Day (ineligible—maintenance); Molecular Structure of Nucleic Acids: A Structure for Deoxyribose Nucleic Acid (ineligible—maintenance); Mswati III (ineligible—maintenance)
Included: Burning of the Parliament Buildings in Montreal (3rd appearance, last in 2015; blurb also previously featured Rebellion Losses Bill, which is currently ineligible); San Remo conference (2nd appearance, last in 2011; rescued from Ineligible); Violeta Chamorro (3rd appearance, last in 2015); Edward II of England (5th appearance, last in 2010; previously appeared on February 7); Emer de Vattel (first appearance); Al Pacino (first appearance)
Repeats: Battle of Bagrevand (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total); Ming dynasty (3rd consecutive appearance, 8 total)

—howcheng {chat} 07:49, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2018 notes[edit]

Deleted: Lapland War (moved to April 27)
Omitted: Battle of Bagrevand; Ming dynasty; Burning of the Parliament Buildings in Montreal (ineligible—maintenance); San Remo conference; Edward II of England; Emer de Vattel; Al Pacino
Included: Pope Leo III/Karolus magnus et Leo papa (both: first appearance); Thornton Affair (first appearance); Landing at Anzac Cove/Landing at Cape Helles/Gallipoli Campaign (Anzac: 4th appearance; Helles: first; Gallipoli: 12th, last in 2015); April 2015 Nepal earthquake (first appearance); Naresuan (first appearance); Georg Sverdrup (first appearance); Dinesh D'Souza (first appearance)
Repeats: Violeta Chamorro (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total)

—howcheng {chat} 03:35, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2019 notes[edit]

Omitted: Thornton Affair; Landing at Anzac Cove/Landing at Cape Helles/Gallipoli Campaign; Violeta Chamorro; April 2015 Nepal earthquake; Naresuan; Georg Sverdrup; Dinesh D'Souza
Included: Ming dynasty (9th appearance, last in 2017); Nicolas Jacques Pelletier (first appearance; blurb previously featured Guillotine which is currently ineligible and is making its 8th appearance, last in 2013); San Remo conference (3rd appearance, last in 2017); USS Triton (SSRN-586)/Operation Sandblast (both: 3rd appearance, last in 2014); Géza I of Hungary (first appearance); Charles Sumner Tainter (first appearance); Stefanie Zweig (first appearance)
Repeats: Pope Leo III/Karolus magnus et Leo papa (both: 2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 16:13, 25 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2020 notes[edit]

New articles (unused): John McFall (athlete)
Omitted: Pope Leo III/Karolus magnus et Leo papa; Ming dynasty; Nicolas Jacques Pelletier; Géza I of Hungary; Charles Sumner Tainter; Stefanie Zweig
Included: Battle of Bagrevand (3rd appearance, last in 2017); Thornton Affair (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Violeta Chamorro (5th appearance, last in 2018; 30th anniversary); Roger de Quincy, 2nd Earl of Winchester (first appearance); Georg Sverdrup (2nd appearance, last in 2017; 250th birthday); Al Pacino (2nd appearance, last in 2017; 80th birthday)
Repeats: San Remo conference (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total; 100th anniversary); USS Triton (SSRN-586)/Operation Sandblast (both: 2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total; 60th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 02:17, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2021 notes[edit]

New articles (unused): Naperville train disaster (moved from April 26); Henck Arron
Omitted: Battle of Bagrevand; Thornton Affair; San Remo conference; Violeta Chamorro; Roger de Quincy, 2nd Earl of Winchester; Georg Sverdrup; Al Pacino
Included: Ming dynasty (10th appearance, last in 2019); Nicolas Jacques Pelletier (2nd appearance, last in 2019); Landing at Anzac Cove/Landing at Cape Helles/Gallipoli campaign (Anzac: 4th appearance; Helles: 2nd; Campaign: 13th; all last in 2018); April 2015 Nepal earthquake (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Henri Duveyrier (first appearance); Emmeline B. Wells (first appearance; 100th anniversary); John McFall (athlete) (first appearance; 40th birthday)
Repeats: USS Triton (SSRN-586)/Operation Sandblast (both: 3rd consecutive appearance, 5 total)

—howcheng {chat} 07:18, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2022 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: Thornton Affair (maintenance)
Omitted: Nicolas Jacques Pelletier; Landing at Anzac Cove/Landing at Cape Helles/Gallipoli campaign; USS Triton (SSRN-586); April 2015 Nepal earthquake; Henri Duveyrier; Emmeline B. Wells; John McFall (athlete)
Included: Pope Leo III (3rd appearance, last in 2019); Gladys Elinor Watkins (first appearance; 90th anniversary); Naperville train disaster (2nd appearance, last in 2016); Violeta Chamorro (6th appearance, last in 2020); Anders Celsius (first appearance); Kojo Tovalou Houénou (first appearance); Henck Arron (first appearance)
Repeats: Ming dynasty (2nd consecutive appearance, 11 total)

—howcheng {chat} 07:01, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yom HaZikaron 2023[edit]

Could someone please add "Yom HaZikaron in Israel (2023)" for April 25 2023? Thanks. --Yair rand (talk) 04:45, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, looks good. Added, thanks - Dumelow (talk) 06:12, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]