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Theodora Kroeber was an American writer and anthropologist, best known for her accounts of Native Californian cultures. She grew up in the mining town of Telluride. She graduated with a major in psychology in 1919, and received a master's degree in 1920. Married in 1920 and widowed in 1923, she began doctoral studies in anthropology. She met anthropologist Alfred Kroeber and married him in 1926. One of her two children with Kroeber was the writer Ursula K. Le Guin. Kroeber began writing professionally late in life, publishing a collection of translated Native Californian narratives in 1959. Two years later she published Ishi in Two Worlds, an account of the last member of the Yahi people of Northern California. This sold widely, and received high praise from contemporary reviewers. In 1960, Theodora married artist John Quinn. She published several other works, including a biography of Alfred. A 1989 biography stated that her "great strength was as an interpreter of one culture to another". (Full article...)

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Hi SusunW & Vanamonde93 and congratulations. A draft blurb for this article is above. Thoughts, comments and edits from you or from anyone else interested are welcome. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:04, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good to me. Thanks for doing this Gog the Mild SusunW (talk) 18:20, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good to me too, I'll think on it and get back to you with any suggestions. Vanamonde (Talk) 21:35, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Added two links and dropped the nursing from the lead, I think it's such a minor point; hope that seems okay, Gog the Mild? Vanamonde (Talk) 20:16, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Vanamonde93, of course! I nearly dropped the nursing myself. Thanks. Tentatively scheduled for 22 February. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:26, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Gog the Mild: Sounds good to me. It's a fair-use image though; are we not restricted from using it? Vanamonde (Talk) 20:27, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Vanamonde93, we are. I thought I had checked it. Thank you. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:33, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

But wait, @Vanamonde93 and Gog the Mild:! I've maybe found something, but it will take someone more skilled technically than me. This photo appeared in the Oakland Tribune on 21 December 1969. I have searched the Library of Congress as well as California digital collections and it did not appear anywhere else that I can determine. There is no copyright mark on the masthead nor statement of copyright on the publishing data notice. I also find no listing for the Oakland Tribune in the 1969 Periodicals Copyright Registration Catalog. All of that basically means you can upload it with {{PD-US no notice}} as the license, but the image is crappy. So I looked on newspapers.com and found the same paper, same image, less crappy. I noticed you can play with the brightness and contrast which improves the image, but if I try to save that image, it just is washed out. If someone who knows how to work with photos can access newspapers.com and can figure out how to play with it, we have a useable, copyright free image for commons. SusunW (talk) 22:08, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, Adam, any chance you can help us out here? Gog the Mild (talk) 22:15, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

SusunW, note that to use an image at TFA it must be in the article somewhere. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:15, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I get that Gog the Mild but if we can't get a decent image from what I found, I cannot imagine that Vanamonde would agree to replace the one we have in the article now. By the by, hope you all have a lovely holiday season. Cheers from sunny Mexico! SusunW (talk) 22:17, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Goodness no! Add it down the bottom captioned "Kroeber in 1969" or something. Let's see what Adam makes of it. He can do amazing things, although may find this one a bit of a challenge.

As we say here, somehow non-ecumenically, Merry Christmas! Gog the Mild (talk) 22:28, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that, SusunW! I agree it's inferior to the current image; but better than nothing on the main page, certainly. I assume it's use does not affect the current image we have, and I don't know enough about licensing to check the one you found. But if Adam okays it, I'm fine with using it for TFA. Vanamonde (Talk) 23:30, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"I assume it's use does not affect the current image we have"...that's the part that concerns me, Vanamonde93. I'm pretty sure, we can't have a fair use image if there is a "freely available" image. I'm confident in the "published in the United States between 1927 and 1977, inclusive, without a copyright notice" tag, as I do a lot of research on those types of images. So the question is can the 1969 image be improved enough, or is there wiggle room on that fair use restriction. SusunW (talk) 06:02, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Vanamonde93 and Gog the Mild: I emailed what I clipped for you to look at and advise. SusunW (talk) 15:36, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]