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Does my IP address stay if I change a Wikipedia page and sign in?

I REALLY HOPE YES

It was an accident and I wish I can undo it without any traces left

does it go away if you sign in? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hatintime (talk • contribs) 01:56, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

@Hatintime: Yes, your IP address is hidden to the typical editor when you are signed in. There is a group of special editors called Checkusers who can view it, but they are trusted not to excepting very unusual circumstances. -A lad insane (Channel 2) 02:00, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Any edits you make while logged out will be recorded by its IP address in the page's edit history. But as noted above, there is no way for a typical user to tie your account name to an IP. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 02:49, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

• @Hatintime: if you accidentally edited a page while logged out, your IP will be logged in the page history (which anyone can see). See WP:OVERSIGHT to ask for the log entry to be removed from public view if that happened. Do not put the details of the request on a public Wikipedia page such as here, but do give them in your email to oversight. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 09:15, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Question about marriage circa date in infobox

Hi Teahouse friends,

Recently I edited the infobox in an artist's page but I only know the rough date that they were married (but the widowed date is certain). Is there a way to reflect this without creating an error? It is the bio for Melissa Beowulf.

Thank you for your time! - SunnyBoi (talk) 23:01, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

@SunnyBoi: I can't be sure, but I think the c. template will work. Thanks for asking! -A lad insane (Channel 2) 23:11, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

• @SunnyBoi: Since the marriage date does not seem to be sourced, I would remove it entirely, rather than put in a guesstimate (unless such guesstimate is given in a source). Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 09:18, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

En Wikipedia blocked in PRC

Need confirmation and possibly only temporary, but it might be of interest that English Wikipedia is now inaccessible in the people’s republic of China without the use of a vpn. Articles which mention censorship might eventually need editing, but am leaving the notice more as a piece of info for anyone planning to travel here. China based Wikipedians who need to use vpns are going to be accessing via webhosts and may need permissions for IP block exemption etc. Edaham (talk) 05:36, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Well I don't know about that. I am pinging a Chinese editor I know. @Unnamelessness: Hey is this true? Sincerely, Masum Reza^☎ 08:37, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

occasionally these things happen from region to region, so it’s possible it’s just where I am. Edaham (talk) 11:06, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Unfortunately, yes. Em... Since yesterday. (Mar. 23rd) Maybe it is temporary, but I'll be honest, it's BS. -- Unnamelessness 13:17, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

How to publish a page

Hi, I have created a page in my Sandbox and would like to publish it. How can I do this?

Gabby 12:26, 24 April 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vedlagt (talk • contribs)

Hello, Gabby. I see you have now submitted your sandbox for review, so you just need to be patient. In the meantime, you can improve your draft: it will make it easier for the reviewer if you format your citations rather than giving bare links: see referencing for beginners. And in my view it could do with an introductory sentence saying who he was. (Starting in with "XXX played a prominent role" seems to land the reader in the middle of a story). --ColinFine (talk) 14:36, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Next To band

We have a band I'm srilanka call NEXT TO. So, how I add details when fans search it, they can get details — Preceding unsigned comment added by Praby shaky (talk • contribs) 14:46, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Unfortunately, Praby shaky, Wikipedia is not a soapbox or a means of promotion. Please advertise your band elsewhere. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:55, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

First Edits Reverted

I made my first real edits on Wikipedia to the Captain Rex article but they got reverted within minutes. It doesn't seem that I'm a very good editor. Can I expect this with most edits I make? LonelyHorse9 (talk) 01:52, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Learning curve. David notMD (talk) 02:36, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello LonelyHorse9 and welcome to the Teahouse. Having your edits reverted occasionally is part of the normal process, but I am sorry that happened on your very first edit. If you click on the "View History" tab at Captain Rex, you can see the explanation for why it was reverted. Most were straightforward; the trickiest one is the need to arrange suitable copyright release before a picture can be included - that catches everybody because most of the internet pays so little attention to copyright issues. You obviously have the right attitude and I encourage you to continue editing at Wikipedia. I see that you have already started on the Wikipedia Adventure, which is a great start. I have also put some links on your User Talk page with some links that might be helpful. --Gronk Oz (talk) 03:07, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

@LonelyHorse9: Sorry I'm a bit late to the discussion, but I just wanted to let you know that your first edits being reverted doesn't mean you're not a good editor- my first edits were reverted back in 2015, and now I'm certainly not an admin or anything, but at least I'm still here! As Gronk Oz said, you have a great attitude about contributing, and I wish you the best of luck in your Wikipedia journey. -A lad insane (Channel 2) 16:49, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

New articles

How do I make my article officially available? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.217.233.81 (talk) 17:24, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

What article are you referring to? Did you create a draft? Eman235/talk 17:30, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

You might find Your First Article gives you the information you need. Nick Moyes (talk) 17:42, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

I want to contribute to the this article Mike Noriega

Hello, M21212121. Welcome to the Teahouse. I'm afraid I have removed the old article which you pasted in with your question as it was not appropriate for a number of reasons. As you know, the page about Mike Noriega was deleted in 2014 as he (you?) was deemed not sufficiently notable to have a page here. See: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mike Noriega. Has something in his career changed significantly to now merit a page this time? If so, perhaps you could supply some sources to show this, as we can advise you. Meanwhile, since starting to reply to you I see you have been blocked for non-constructive editing, which is a shame. Nick Moyes (talk) 19:21, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Page image limit?

Hello. I am currently working on a page titled List of Kentucky supplemental roads and rural secondary highways (500-999). I have recently discovered a unique problem. After an entry for Kentucky Route 617, all images for further entries in the Template:Infobox road small are missing. Does Wikipedia have a limit on how many images/files can be on a single page? Matthewshill (talk) 18:15, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Matthewshill welcome to the Teahouse. You have found an interesting problem, it seems. I wasn't aware of an image loading limit, but it appears there is one. I have tested your page by previewing it with upper sections cut out, and found that the lower ones after section 617, which previously weren't displaying road numbers, now do so. The pragmatic solution would be to split up this now huge (179,500 byte) article into two, and simply carry on working on them. But to find out the actual cause and any image limits, you could ask at WP:VPT, which can probably answer the much more technical questions that we cannot here. Sorry I can't help you further. Nick Moyes (talk) 20:11, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

The inclusion limit for expensive parser functions was exceeded:

NewPP limit report 
Parsed by mw1321
Cached time: 20190424201319
Cache expiry: 2592000
Dynamic content: false
CPU time usage: 7.224 seconds
Real time usage: 7.701 seconds
Preprocessor visited node count: 181435/1000000
Preprocessor generated node count: 0/1500000
Post‐expand include size: 1110577/2097152 bytes
Template argument size: 59622/2097152 bytes
Highest expansion depth: 17/40
Expensive parser function count: 548/500
Unstrip recursion depth: 1/20
Unstrip post‐expand size: 214630/5000000 bytes
Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400
Lua time usage: 3.380/10.000 seconds
Lua memory usage: 8.71 MB/50 MB

. {{Infobox road small}} uses #ifexist calls, which are expensive. Ruslik_Zero 20:19, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

@Matthewshill: If you turn on "Show Hidden Catagories", you will see that the page has some errors: Hidden categories: Category:Jct template errors and Category:Infobox road transclusions without route marker and Category:Pages with too many expensive parser function calls. Breaking the page up into smaller sections as suggested above may solve the last one, not sure about the other errors. RudolfRed (talk) 20:40, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Kalpana Mohan Page

Hi, Thank you for your response. I am a fan & not an expert in writing or editing. Initially, I had made changes in the edit but stopped as caution by Oshwah. As ‪Symmachus Auxiliarus‬ mention in his message that "Note that IMDB alone can't be used to establish notability, in the Wikipedia sense of the word. " I agreed fact-checked can be done from the other sources like youtube videos. I can send you the link to verify the credentials of her work. I have edited the extra detail such as directors & co-star. I hope this is fine.

Filmography 1. Pyar Ki Jeet (1962) 2. Naughty Boy (1962) 3. Professor (1962) 4. Saheli (1965) 5. Teesra Kaun (1965) 6. Teen Devian (1965) 7. Biwi Aur Makan (1966) 8. Tasveer (1966) 9. Pyar Kiye Jaa (1966) 10. Nawab Sirazuddaula (1967) 11. Ek Bechara (1972)

Early life: She was also an accomplished Kathak dancer trained under Pandit Shambhu Maharaj. She was a good swimmer & Horse rider too.

Career: Nehru often invited Kalpana, a trained Kathak dancer, to dance at the Rashtrapati Bhavan whenever dignitaries visited. Actor Balraj Sahani and Urdu writer Ismat Chughtai spotted the beautiful dancer and encouraged her to come to Mumbai and try her luck in films.

References 1. The Unhappy Married Life of Actress Kalpana | Tabassum Talkies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD6jv77cVdw

2. Pt.J Nehru Favourite Actress |News Filmy Hai https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB-oW_eDfC0

3. The IMDB https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0436200/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm

Thank you for the invitation to Teahouse. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yashkkaryan (talk • contribs) 20:34, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

@Yashkkaryan: YouTube videos are not generally forbidden as references, but on enwiki videos in another language without English subtitles won't help. Articles in newspapers might be okay, if it's a newspaper with a page on enwiki, excl. The Sun and similar fake-news "sources". –84.46.53.123 (talk) 03:58, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

@Yashkkaryan: The IP's answer is incorrect, sources in any language are acceptable, but keep in mind that Youtube can be a problematic source. Mainstream news, magazine articles, or books from reputable publishers (in any language) are usually better than Youtube videos. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 19:01, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

The answer was a summary of WP:YOUTUBE×WP:NONENGEL, where have you seen YouTube videos without English subtitles used as references? –84.46.52.26 (talk) 22:28, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Alexei Nikolaevich, Tsarevich of Russia

The lead mentions that the faith healer Grigori Rasputin "helped bring about the end of the Romanov dynasty". According to his own article, his disreputation might have spread to general disreputation of the Romanovs, but there's no source for that in either article. Regardless, the end of the Romanov dynasty shouldn't be simplified to a single cause in the lead in the biography of Alexei. Clovermoss (talk) 04:41, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Clovermoss. If you think there is something in an article that can be improved, in most cases you can go ahead and improve it yourself. The worst that can happen is that somebody reverts your change, and then if you want to take it further, you can open a discussion on the talk page, according to BRD. Alternatively, you can start a discussion on the article's talk page as your first step. There's not a lot of point in bringing it up here in the Teahouse. --ColinFine (talk) 20:16, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

ColinFine: Wow, I must have been really tired last night. I'm not entirely sure what my thought process was posting here, but I was probably thinking about posting to the article's talk page/possibly writing a note to myself to fix it. I actually completely forgot about this, so I'm going to take another look at the article now. Clovermoss (talk) 20:24, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi Clovermoss. There is a source (not included in the article) citing how the Russian nobility and right-wing supporters of autocracy were convinced that Rasputin threatened the survival of the Romanov dynasty, which is the reason behind several attempts on his life (Tucker, Spencer (2005). World War I: Encyclopedia, Volume 1, p. 968). This source also states that although the faith healer did not materially affect the revolution, he might have hastened it. However, I agree that the end of the Romanov dynasty should not be attributed to a single cause. Darwin Naz (talk) 23:34, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

pseudoscientific theories Graham Hancoc

I found this article completely wrong on its use of the word "pseudoscientific" theories and Graham Hancock in the same article.

Please see Joe Rogan #1284 for scientific rebuttal of this false accusation. Wiki has made a serious error to allow this.the site should contain the recent " nature" paper proving some of his claims.

If this is about our article on Graham Hancock, then I would consider the description fair. You are welcome to discuss changes on the talk page of the article. Dbfirs 18:01, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

What are Joe Rogan's credentials that allow what he says to be taken as reasonable rebuttals? --Jayron32 18:45, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

He is mixed martial arts color commentator, what more do you need? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:15, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

I think it is more his standup comedy which is more applicable here. Maybe Fear Factor. --Jayron32 23:40, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Can i give honourary names ?

Can i give honourary names in vice chancellor's section of infobox university. Can i write prof, dr, major ex... prof Satis dhawan or Dr fatima devi. --Rocky 734 (talk) 09:55, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi Rocky 734. I believe the answer to your question can be found in MOS:DOCTOR. Generally, Wikipedia articles don't use pre-nominal letters or post-nominal letters when referring to a person by just their name like in an infobox; information about a person's academic or professional achievements, however, can be added to the body of the article if supported by citations to reliable sources and encyclopedically relevant to the reader. -- Marchjuly (talk) 13:21, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: should i remove prof from vice chancellor section of infobox in Ouat article in other words write Soumendra Mohan Pattanaik instead of Prof. Soumendra Mohan Pattanaik. --Rocky 734 (talk) 01:09, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Follow-up to Review my first created business page

New article, is needed to change smth. for approval?

Hi, everyone! Thank you for your support and contribution. I have a purpose to create many articles and edit, improving our Wikipedia day by day. Now I created my first article, Global Data Intelligence Limited, and do not know if it's ok. Added some reviews. Please, give me some recommendations if is needed to change something or add. Thank you in advance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trymemore (talk • contribs)

Article is currently at AFD (not by me). shoy (reactions) 14:12, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

@Trymemore: WP:ORGCRIT looks good as a guideline. I've tweaked your article, e,g., I replaced a "forbidden" Crunchbase by an allowed Companies House reference. So far none of the references are obviously Reliable Sources (RS), check out the three competitors listed by you as good examples. Maybe suggest to move the article back to a draft in the AfD, but I'm not sure what's the best strategy at this point. –84.46.52.26 (talk) 01:35, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

84.46.52.26 Thank you so much for your advice! It's so helpful! I also thought to move the article into the draft, but someone moved back into the article, I do not know how correct is it. Hope everything we will resolve together with Wikipedia editors. :)

MediaWiki

Do all websites that use the MediaWiki engine "look like a Wikipedia?"

97.90.47.253 (talk) 02:12, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Yes at least the layout(css) is not different. So the websites might look pretty similar. Sincerely, Masum Reza^☎ 08:33, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Well, if they use the Vector skin (or to a certain extent Monobook). Some wikis, like this might be a wiki, use MediaWiki but with a custom skin that does not resemble Wikipedia. Eman235/talk 13:41, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Apart from different skins you can figure out different MediaWiki features on Special:Version. –84.46.52.26 (talk) 02:06, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Reactive

is it possibble to reactive Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of recent edits and Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by article count Fanoflionking

Cf. Wikipedia:Editcountitis. –84.46.52.26 (talk) 02:15, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

History

When a user is signed in is there a place where every article a user visited is recorded? Like a "browsing history" equivalent?

Adderallman (talk) 22:44, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Yes. It's called user contributions and there should be a link in your toolbar. If not you can access yours at Special:Contributions/Adderallman. Thanks for stopping by, Adderallman. John from Idegon (talk) 01:19, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

JFTR, Special:MyContributions covers my edits (excl. uploads, that's Special:MyUploads), and you can replace your name (or IP) by another name (or IP) to check edits + uploads by others. The logs are also interesting (thanks log, block log, changed user rights, patrol log, etc.), but AFAIK you cannot get your own or other views without any modification:
That would be a major privacy nightmare; even the thanks log got the required privacy warning after folks from the EU told the WMF where the hammer will fall. –84.46.52.26 (talk) 02:26, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Actually, John from Idegon - the contributions log is only those pages where you do something to alter the page. I am not aware of anyway to see where an editor simply views a page.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 02:28, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Yea, I misread that. Sorry. As 84 etc said above, I can't imagine Wikimedia software would record that. It pulls the page view so those can be counted but I cannot imagine it would have any identification data attached. John from Idegon (talk) 02:32, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Kelly Hyman (TV Legal Commentator, Lawyer and Actress)

Dear Teahouse, I am working on a wikipedia article and I feel the following links justify notability for Kelly Hyman. Could you kindly review before I start working on the article. Thank you. https://www.forbes.com/sites/warrenbobrow/2019/04/22/an-interview-with-kelly-hyman-from-actor-to-attorney-with-tact/#601182893139 https://video.foxnews.com/v/6022395110001/?fbclid=IwAR2yVxfbqscSxhugv2mDYhonePyb3DQxF0s2hRFnUz4ECH9gDYEdPF-54Ng#sp=show-clips https://www.krdo.com/news/colorado-springs/af-water-contamination-lawsuit-lingers-while-families-wait-for-answers/732863040 https://calbizjournal.com/attorneykellyhyman/ https://video.foxnews.com/v/6022395110001/?fbclid=IwAR2yVxfbqscSxhugv2mDYhonePyb3DQxF0s2hRFnUz4ECH9gDYEdPF-54Ng#sp=show-clips https://observer.com/2019/02/brad-pitt-make-it-right-foundation-sued-lower-9th-ward-responsible/ http://conservativepolitics.info/dinesh-dsouza-debates-social-justice-attorney-kelly-hyman-on-late-term-abortion/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl50XpdfjiE https://www.foxnews.com/transcript/2020-presidential-democrats-push-for-slavery-reparations https://www.imdb.com/videoplayer/vi158251545 https://video.foxnews.com/v/6006546835001/ https://vimeo.com/315240102 https://www.kitv.com/story/40204036/attorney-kelly-hyman-explores-womens-issues-in-2019 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDo5PfbMk5A http://www.koaa.com/story/38011946/local-law-firm-holds-open-house-for-those-affected-by-contaminated-water#.Wt0SQfujuSI.facebook http://www.krdo.com/news/colorado-springs/af-water-contamination-lawsuit-lingers-while-families-wait-for-answers/732863040

09:12, 23 April 2019 (UTC)Josephintechnicolor (talk)

To other editor. Please see the SALT log at Kelly Hyman, Kelly Hyman (lawyer) and Kelly Hyman (attorney) before replying potential paid editing. Also, the right venue would be WP:Deletion Review. Matthew hk (talk) 10:32, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

FYI to everyone: Kelly Hyman as an article has been repeatedly created and deleted, dating as far back as 2014, most recently by Josephintechnicolor. Administrator approval required before a new draft can be submitted. IMO, looking at list of proposed refs would be wasted time until an Admin approves a retry. David notMD (talk) 11:46, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Josephintechnicolor: the two links above that I bothered to follow (the first and third) are both based on interviews with Hyman, and thus cannot contribute in any way to her notability. Either you have failed to understand the criteria for notability, or you are desperately trying to sneak over the bar. In view of the comments above, I suspect the latter. --ColinFine (talk) 17:52, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

ColinFine Thank you for bothering. This goes well beyond the interviews with Forbes and Entrepreneur https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/332557 . Please consider this fact, Kelly was invited by FOX TV several times (and other Legal TV shows) and gave expert legal commentary and she continues to do so. I feel the citizens of America who watch and listen to Fox TV would consider Kelly notable. When FOX asks for HER opinion in front of millions it is only natural for a viewer to assume that person is notable. In conjunction with the interviews the News TV appearances further warrant her notability and inclusion in Wikipedia. I was originally told that beyond Kelly's "The Young and the Restless" role she is not notable but if we now add the FOX TV and interviews shouldn't that carry enough weight in a cumulative manner for the notability test? Kelly is a fighting legal public advocate and compared to Erin Brockovich, putting herself on the line to protect consumers. Is that an everyday feat done my millions? No. There are FEW good Samaritans, Kelly is one of the last of this breed. I will submit via WP:Deletion Review thank you. I appreciate your critique. Please note: you are quick to condemn my submission but when someone like Matthew HK obliterates NAZI relevancy from qualified sources on the wikipedia article of Raiffeisen Zentralbank he does not even get a slap on the wrist, how can he still be allowed on this platform is well beyond me. If I added NAZI affiliation to Krispy Kreme Wikipedia would he remove them as well or is it only Raiffeisen he is protecting? I will find out. There seems to be some protectionism going on. Thank you. (Note: I had nothing to do with past Kelly submissions and my goal here is to get my recent submission reviewed and approved, there is no payment and I mentioned that many times. Just look at my articles, how could any of them be paid? 1) Rivercrest Mental Asylum long closed down, 2) deceased Supreme Court Judge from Italy). Matthew hk David notMD 10:37, 24 April 2019 (UTC)Josephintechnicolor (talk)

Josephintechnicolor. I have no interest in Hyman, and have no wish to be further involved in this. I contributed solely to give you (my view of) Wikipedia's requirements and how you do not appear to me to be meeting them. From the part of your tl;dr above that I read, I conclude that you have not understood the special Wikipedia meaning of Notability, as you appear to be arguing on the basis of a different meaning of the word. I concede that the meaning you are using is the one in general use, but Wikipedia, as a private venture, is entitled to use any criteria it chooses for what is an acceptable subject, and has (re)defined the word "notability" accordingly. What you need is several places where people who have no connection with Hyman have chosen to write (or speak) at some length about her, and been published in reliable places. It is possible that your list of links contains such, but if so you have buried them among links that do not. Understand that not one word that Hyman has spoken, written, or published, contributes to her notability (in the Wikipedia sense). And not one word that her friends, colleagues, or associates have spoken or written about her contributes. And nor is any number of followers or likes - in fact, almost nothing on social media - relevant.

On the last part (which I have only glanced at): if you think that somebody else is behaving inappropriately on Wikipedia, engage with them in discussion (see BRD, or if it is their behaviour per se that you think is inappropriate, WP:ANI is the place to bring this up. None of this has any relevance to whether your submissions are accepted or not. --ColinFine (talk) 14:30, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

ColinFine I really appreciate your feedback. Well noted on the rest, thank you.05:46, 25 April 2019 (UTC)Josephintechnicolor (talk)

Oxford Dictionary of National Biography

Does anyone have a subscription to the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography? I want to get a copy of this entry on Cuthbert Eden Heath, OBE, for a Wikipedia article on him: [1]. Thanks for any assistance. Gillywell (talk) 07:24, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Gillywell, you could try Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:28, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Gillywell, the link you gave is to the ONDB article anyway: seems you have it and all the information you need. (Incidentally, typo in the name: Cuthbert, not Cuthberth). If you are a member of a public library in the UK it's likely that you can access the ONDB and other Oxford references online with your membership card. Emeraude (talk) 08:34, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

The link is just to the extract, Emeraude. I presume that Gillywell wants to access the full text of the article. Gillywell, I have access to the text, so if you e-mail me (you'll need to turn on this function by following the instructions at WP:ENABLEEMAIL), I can attach it in reply. Cordless Larry (talk) 09:03, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi everyone thanks for the assistance. I fixed the typo in my request; however I'm not a UK resident. I have emailed Cordless Larry per his instructions and will await hearing back from him. Gillywell (talk) 09:18, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Gillywell & Cordless Larry My error. I hadn't realised that I was already logged in to ODNB when I clicked the link! Seems the original request has now been resolved, so well done. Emeraude (talk) 09:41, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Adding a service announce by twitter on twitter's page

Hi everyone, I just found news about Twitter where twitter informed to keep Indian Election unbiased by protecting its platform from misuse. So I want to add it in the Twitter's Wikipedia page under services and announcements. But the option to edit is not showing. What to do?

Thanks! --Prabhakarzx (talk) 11:44, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

@Prabhakarzx:The article has a protected status, and so new users must submit a request to edit it. Click on the "view source" tab at the top of the page, and then submit an edit request. Someone will review it.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 12:39, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Moving an article from sandbox into published Wikipedia article

I do not get the "Move" option on my sandbox. How can I move my article out of the sandbox and publish it live? Here it is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bonn1770/sandbox — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bonn1770 (talk • contribs) 12:32, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

@Bonn1770: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. You cannot move the draft because your account is not more than four days old. You can submit it for review using Articles for Creation, but if you did so now, I believe it would be rejected, as it reads as one big advertisement for IDAGIO largely sourced to press releases and basic business annoucements. What is needed is significant coverage in independent reliable sources that indicates how it is notable.. If you are associated with IDAGIO, you must declare that per WP:COI and WP:PAID. 331dot (talk) 12:39, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

New multiwiki system

Hello, I would like to introduce a new initiative by Yurik at Multilingual Templates and Modules. The tech and non-tech people from this wikipedia are invited to share their views and facilitate its implementation here. Thanks Capankajsmilyo^{(Talk | Infobox assistance)} 08:18, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

@JackintheBox:

@ColinFine:

Thanks so much for your help!

Gabby 08:42, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

@Capankajsmilyo:The purpose of this page is to answer users' questions about how to use Wikipedia. Promoting person projects is frowned upon this page and anywhere else at Wikipedia.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 12:41, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

how to publish article from sandbox to live

I have created article in wikipedia sandbox but i really dont know how to publish live. Please help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Preetsanghreri (talk • contribs) 11:50, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

@Preetsanghreri: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. You cannot "publish" it yourself as your account does not have 10 edits. I will shortly add the appropriate information to allow you to submit it for a review by another editor. 331dot (talk) 12:45, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

attempt to edit the "Newfoundland Wolf" page

I tried to add a simple, single sentence to the page. It was a factual and "to the point" statement, and I selected that it was a minor change. Afterwards I refreshed the page, and it didn't show up. I'm wondering how I can get this information added to the page and to stick? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smack07 (talk • contribs) 03:38, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi Smack07 and welcome to the Teahouse. Your edit was reverted because you didn't provide a WP:Reliable source. When you have found the source, just add your statement back again with the reference. Dbfirs 04:08, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

@Smack07: I tried to find a reference, but couldn't find a good one (only one first-person reference or blogs). As soon as you find a source, you can add it back to the article.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 12:49, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Article marked as a copyright infringement - ways to remedy?

Hello fellow Wikipedians! I just submitted my first article, yohooo! However, it has been marked for deletion for copyright infringement. I was wondering if I can now go back in and paraphrase the wording? Or is it better to wait for the page to get deleted and then create a new one? Thanks so much for your help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by TravelHacks (talk • contribs) 14:18, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

It would probably be better to wait for it to be deleted and start fresh. In general, Wikipedia articles need to be wholly original text, though of course you should always cite your sources of information. In the case of a clear article whose entire text is a copyright violation, just let the admins delete it, and start fresh with your own original text (with proper citations, of course). --Jayron32 14:23, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Help me!

Is there anyone here want to help me to create a page,please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arieflongbottom91 (talk • contribs) 13:20, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

@Arieflongbottom91: Hello and welcome to "The Teahouse" What exactly do you mean? and what kind of page do you want to create? - JJBullet (Talk) 13:48, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Also adding on to my question, how many pages have you created so far? - JJBullet (Talk) 14:03, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

If you mean Rangga Djoned, you can try again now that you have declared a paid situation on your User page. Your deleted draft can be recovered. Will still need references. David notMD (talk) 14:58, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

help with draft to publish

Can I get some help with editing this draft and get it ready for review please? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:T25_medium_tank — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.104.198.187 (talk) 14:53, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Hey anon. You may want to consider asking over at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history. GMG^talk 15:49, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

How to make a page about my company in wiki?

I created a page in name of my company..no promotions or activities are given in the page,I just had provided basic details like registration number and website in that page..but someone had made that page in speedy deletion..

Please tell me how I can make a page in the name of my company,it's just a startup company...

Thanks and regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Macgnam (talk • contribs) 15:43, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello Macgnam. For a subject to meet Wikipedia's standards for notability and qualify for an article, it needs to have sustained in-depth coverage in reliable sources, usually things like magazines, newspapers and books, and excluding things like official websites, press releases, and routine database information. The overwhelming majority of start ups will not meet this standard. When or if your company does, you should not write the article yourself, because you have a conflict of interest. Instead, if your company is or becomes notable, a volunteer will likely eventually write about it on their own. Attempting to circumvent this process is highly likely to end with your efforts being deleted, and can actually make it less likely that the subject will eventually get any article. GMG^talk 15:47, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

@Macgnam: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. The short answer is, that you don't. You have what we call a conflict of interest and are a paid editor. As such, you should not directly edit about your company. Furthermore, the fact that you describe it as a "startup" probably means there are not sufficient independent reliable sources to establish that your company meets Wikipedia's definition of notability, written at WP:ORG. Wikipedia has no interest in merely telling the world about your company, nor in what your company wants to say about itself, only in what independent sources with significant coverage state about it. If you just want to tell the world about your company, you should use social media, your own website, or an alternative forum. When your company becomes notable, independent editors will write about it.

You edited your user page, which is not article space- perhaps you confused creating an article with creating an account- but your username cannot be that of your company, you must visit Special:GlobalRenameRequest or WP:CHUS to request a change immediately. 331dot (talk) 15:50, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Problem with adding map to Infobox:Settlement

I'd appreciate it if someone would look at Canisteo Center, New York and fix the map. I can't figure it out and I can't find relevant instructions. Thank you. deisenbe (talk) 16:59, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

 Working GMG^talk 17:03, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

@Deisenbe:  Done GMG^talk 17:08, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

The map caption is erroneously repeated under the pushpin map. I can't figure that out either. deisenbe (talk) 17:15, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

 Done per the template documentation, the pushpin map caption defaults to the image caption; can be specified with |pushpin_map_caption=. MB 17:33, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Article submission

I want to submit an article about an American Wildlife Artist. I have an account set up. I have the bio written. But when I try to submit the system tells me that my account is not confirmed. I have to make 10 edits to be confirmed. What does that mean and how do I do that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 369BataCintiOh (talk • contribs) 20:04, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

@369BataCintiOh: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. You need to be what is called "autoconfirmed" to directly create new articles; this is to make sure you are not a robot(among other reasons). Your account needs to be four days old and have at least 10 edits. Any edits to any page count(including this one). However, instead of directly creating the article, I would recommend that you use Articles for Creation to submit your draft(which you can do even without the 10 edits). This way, you can get feedback and help before the draft is in the encyclopedia, instead of afterwards when it will be treated more critically. 331dot (talk) 20:22, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Can't upload file

I can't upload file. It said my account hasn't been confirmed. But I've confirmed it on email. So,what should I do to upload a file? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arieflongbottom91 (talk • contribs) 20:25, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Check out WP:CONFIRMED -- you'll have to wait another day (approximately) until you can upload a file. Eman235/talk 20:33, 25 April 2019 (UTC)relp

I have edited a wiki page which said "this article is written like an advertisement". How do I remove this template?

I tried editing the source and removing the advert template. It gets reverted everytime. What to do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faizanmqs (talk • contribs) 13:00, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

@Faizanmqs: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Your edit history indicates no other edits associated with your account(meaning you edited without an account or a different account); in order to help you, you will need to tell which article you are referencing. 331dot (talk) 13:04, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Looks to be Sanjiv Mehta (Indian businessman). If so, then possible that Faizanmqs has been editing while not logged in and under other User names. David notMD (talk) 14:55, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Faizanmqs and welcome to the Teahouse. If another editor reverts your change (any change, whether to content or to maintenance tags) you should not reapply the change, but should open a discussion with the other editor to try and reach consensus. See WP:BRD. You can see who has reverted your change (and what message they left, if any) by looking at the History of the article. --ColinFine (talk) 23:06, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Wikimedia Commons Question

Hi Everyone:

Sorry for the long question but I am trying to reduce the size of a potential thread on my question:

I have a collection of pictures of a musician that four separate photographers took.

Through the musician, I was able to get in contact with the photographers, who are all willing to donate these photos.

Should I upload the photos to Wikimedia Commons and at the same time send them the template of the text they have to email to Wikimedia? If so, do I risk them deleting the files while the permission is in transfer? The reason I ask, is it seems to me the template text the photographer would need to send requires a file link on commons.wikimedia.org...

Does anyone have the template I would need to have the photographer used to email Wikimedia Commons?

Can I verify that it should be emailed to: photosubmission@wikimedia.org and permissions-commons@wikimedia.org?

I did this before but it was so long ago I worry the protocols have changed and am trying to avoid going back and forth - am trying to come as closely as possible to simply having the picture submitted, the permission emailed, and the photograph deposited in Wikimedia Commons permanently for future use. I am trying to avoid going back and forth because something or another is missing.

Thank you in advance.

1987atomheartbrother (talk) 23:04, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi, 1987atomheartbrother, you should ask this at the Commons:Help Desk. Rojomoke (talk) 05:18, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you.1987atomheartbrother (talk) 06:28, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Rename Draft article to non-draft

Hi,

I attended a "how to edit" event at the Smithsonian a couple of months ago. I understood that as a novice I couldn't create an article but I could create a Draft article, and that after a certain amount of time and a certain quota of edits I would be able to rename it so that it became a production article. At that time, I thought I understood, an additional choice would appear with "Read/Edit/Edit Source/View History? on the Edit screen.

I created "Draft:Virginia Smith Jones" during the event.

The additional choice has not showed up on my Edit screen. What hurdle have I not jumped?

20 MINUTES LATER: turned out I needed just one more edit. Doc has been "moved". Thanks.MakerOfTools (talk) 18:59, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks MakerOfTools (talk) 18:36, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi MakerOfTools and welcome to the Teahouse. When the draft is ready for publication, you can submit it for review by adding {{subst:submit}} to the start of the draft. At present, it lacks independent references, so it needs a little work to establish WP:Notability. You need to make one more edit to be WP:Autoconfirmed so that you can move articles yourself. Dbfirs 18:52, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Dbfirs. I made one more edit and then moved the document, sounds like prematurely. I am not sure what constitutes an "independent" references. I have two references to different sources. What is additionally needed? MakerOfTools (talk) 19:03, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

The article will still be reviewed, but you should improve it now before the review to ensure that it is not rejected. Independent references should be WP:Reliable sources in which the subject has been written about at length, and the article should summarise these. Your first paragraph has no references. Dbfirs 19:14, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

The move was premature, and resulted in a redirect page in namespace, rather than the article actually being moved. John From Idegon is deleting the redirect. I made a couple of edits to improve the draft nonetheless. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:25, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

The article is back at Draft:Virginia Smith Jones where you can add the required references before submitting it for review. Dbfirs 19:33, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

I moved it back to draft space. Only two references, one being a book that the subject of the article wrote. Not enough to show notability. John from Idegon (talk) 19:37, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

MakerOfTools: Dbfirs nearly answered your question, but missed one point. An independent reference one that is independent of the subject of the article: it is not written by them or their associates, or published by them or their associates, or based on an interview or press release from them or their associates. It is the result of somebody wholly unconnected with them choosing to write about them, and being published in a reliable place. --ColinFine (talk) 23:11, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Yes, thank you. I should have explained that more clearly. Dbfirs 07:37, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Citations where one of the parameters is "language=en"

Is there any reason to leave "language=en" in a citation on the English Wikipedia? There doesn't seem to be an answer in any of the Template pages; they only note that the language isn't displayed in the citation if it's set to English. Since it doesn't have any actual use within the article, is there some sort of usefulness for it within the larger scope of Wikipedia that I'm missing? It seems really redundant. TheTechnician27 (talk) 00:24, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi there, TheTechnician27. You're right, it does seem kind of redundant. In my article-writing experience, I've never had to specify |language= in a citation template unless the source was written in a language other than English. If I had to speculate, perhaps specifying the language makes it easier for the article to be imported and translated to foreign-language Wikipedias, who might then need to actually specify the language. On the other hand, I think it's totally fine to leave it out for English sources. Mz7 (talk) 08:08, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Duplinks

I want to remove the duplinks on 2010 TUMS Fast Relief 500 . But as there are too many of them , is there any way to find them or remove them without having to edit manually. Kpgjhpjm 12:05, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

@Kpgjhpjm: MOS:DUPLINK suggests this tool: User:Evad37/duplinks-alt – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 12:25, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Adding images

How can I add up pictures to contextual materials ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Staunch uop (talk • contribs) 12:34, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

@Staunch uop: Welcome to the Teahouse! This tutorial should help you through the process.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 13:16, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Yushancun Cable Car sources limited mostly to writer's visit and documentation.

Hello

I submitted a Wikipedia page entry for the Yushancun Cable Car, the 2nd highest in China at 350 meters.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Yushancun_Cable_Car

The page was moved to draft due to not citing sources. I did have a few Chinese news sources but more recently added an English language Dailymail news story on the unique 4-person tramway that connects 2 poor villages in a remote region of Hubei. Maybe this will help it be approved to publish now?

My short description only has a few facts which are stated by me as I accurately measured the height with my laser range finder to be 350 meters. News sources have inaccurate heights listed from 400 to 480 meters high. I am probably the only Westerner to ever attempt to reach and document this cable car and would like these facts to now be available to those interested in aerial gondolas and tramways. Foreign journalists rarely if ever visit remote regions of China so this story cannot be based on just other news sources in the media.

The length of the Yushancun Cable Car is 650 meters as measured on Google maps satellite.

Is this article now ok to publish?

Thanks,

Eric — Preceding unsigned comment added by HighestBridges (talk • contribs) 08:38, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Your original research is not of use to Wikipedia. Wikipedia's policy of verifiability required that information be cited to published reliable sources. The method of citing the references by inline citation is given at Help:Referencing for beginners. Although English language sources are preferred, foreign language sources are acceptable if necessary; in such cases an English translation is useful. --David Biddulph (talk) 08:43, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

@HighestBridges: Welcome to the Teahouse! It can be frustrating for new users to find out that their own personal research cannot be included in Wikipedia. And, unfortunately, you are right, many print sources contain inaccurate information. Even so, Wikipedia simply cannot use a policy of "taking people's word for it" when it comes to growing the encyclopedia. This would leave the encyclopedia vulnerable to hearsay, inaccuracy, and outright lies. Additionally, all the information must be verifiable, which means someone else should be able to find the sources you are using to confirm that what is in the article is accurate. It's not a perfect system, but it's infinitely better than the alternative. If you want this information included, I would implore you to find some information that substantiates it from a reputable source.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 13:31, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

HighestBridges, I agree with the other editors regarding the issue of original research. In addition, you must remove the Daily Mail link, because that newspaper is not a reliable source. Please read WP:DAILY MAIL. An example of their unreliability is their erroneous use of the term zip line to describe this system. Zip lines are gravity powered and this system is motorized. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 15:46, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion

Can you place a speedy deletion tag on an article if you're not an admin? I didn't have any specific article in mind, I was just wondering.71.11.77.41 (talk) 16:34, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Absolutely: if an admin wanted to speedy an article I assume they would just delete it outright, after all. Eman235/talk 16:39, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Citation Date Error?

Hi, I am working on a draft for a musical and cite several playbill.com (a leading source for musical theater news) articles in it. For some reason, only articles from this site receive the following error: Check date values in: |access-date=, |date. I have tried manually entering the citation myself, as well as reading over the CS1 errors page, and cannot figure out what is wrong with these dates. Can anyone assist me in fixing it and also explaining it to me so I can fix it myself in the future? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apathyash (talk • contribs) 14:01, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

@Apathyash: The Cite web template doesn't recognize what you put in the |date= parameter as a valid date. Just enter the day and year. I've fixed the first one for you as a guide. Deor (talk) 14:33, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

You've still got one date flagged up as an error. In the error message, the word "help" is in blue, indicating that it is a wikilink, in this case to Help:CS1 errors#bad date, which in turn links also to MOS:BADDATEFORMAT. You seem to have quite a variety of date formats in your draft; it is better to be consistent. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:03, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

I recently had precisely the same problem with both accessdate= and |access-date=, despite having it on numerous occasions. It only happened once, and since I had already noted |date for the newspaper article, I ended up eliminating |accessdate. However, that doesn't seem like an ideal solution.Michael E Nolan (talk) 17:56, 26 April 2019 (UTC)Michael E. Nolan

Hi

hi(The unknown 123 you see you see (talk) 09:57, 26 April 2019 (UTC))

The unknown 123 you see you see, hello. If you have a query about editing on Wikipedia, here is the place to ask it. Stormy clouds (talk) 18:49, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Photos

Can someone explain how to include photograhs or other visual material in an article? Thank you.Michael E Nolan (talk) 17:47, 26 April 2019 (UTC)Michael E. Nolan

Hi, Michael E. Nolan - to include photographs which are already uploaded and stored within Wikimedia Commons or Wikipedia, you follow the advice laid out here. If the image which you wish to add to the article is not already in the Commons, and you own the copyright (or it is in the public domain/falls under WP:FAIRUSE), you can upload it following the advice provided here using the file upload wizard. Hope this helps, do not hesitate to seek further assistance (or to cite a specific image which you wish to embed in an article) - Stormy clouds (talk) 18:48, 26 April 2019 (UTC).

Please, see the general file help page. Ruslik_Zero 20:28, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Flag icons on Television infobox

User Luis dani palago (talk) has been adding flag icons to Television infoboxes. At first they were only doing it to La reina soy yo tv series so I wrote on their talk page and told them not to add flag icons. Now they are adding flag icons to multiple tv series infoboxes and Template:Infobox television says this on flag icons: "Do not use flag icons, as this places an unnecessary emphasis on nationality". I sent them a second message on their talk page and it seems like they are ignoring the messages and are going to continue to add flag icons. What can I do for them to stop adding the flag icons? - Telenovelafan215 (talk) 21:50, 26 April 2019 (UTC) Telenovelafan215

I'm currently trying to undo his edits. I'm not sure if this is correct, but perhaps try and post in the WP:Administrators' noticeboard? — BladeRikWr 21:56, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

I'm going to post about it in WP:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents which is more appropriate. — BladeRikWr 22:00, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

@BladeRikWr: Thank you for your response. –Telenovelafan215 (talk) 22:10, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

@Telenovelafan215: Report filed at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User_won't_stop_adding_flag_icons_to_infoboxes_which_violate_MOS. — BladeRikWr 22:13, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

He is now blocked for 24 hours. Might want to keep watch of him, to see if his disruptive editing continues. — BladeRikWr 22:36, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

This editor is now blocked indefinitely. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 22:44, 26 April 2019 (UTC)