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I have a question about this picture of lgbt flag colours I found online[edit]

So I found this photo in google or yahoo images of Easter Eggs of different sexualities and gender flag colours. I recognize the Pride, transgender and genderqueer colours, but what other lgbt representation is this photo because I'm not sure what the colours on the other eggs each represent: https: https://bellagator.tumblr.com/post/115554684376/my-parents-dont-recognize-sexualities-so-i-made (talk) 04:14, 6 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

left column, top to bottom: Bisexual flag, genderqueer flag, polysexual flag
center: pansexual flag
right column, top to bottom: trans flag, asexual flag, gay pride flag
EvergreenFir (talk) 07:28, 6 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It makes me wonder if Jupiter represents an identity.  --Lambiam 19:07, 6 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I noticed Moon (bi), Mercury and comet (various "in-between", fluid, Hermes-Aphroditeic and other non-vanilla identities), and "2nd most common Earth glyph except rotated" (transmale) at LGBT symbols and wouldn't be surprised if at least one symbol is (at least accidentally) an asteroid or other astro symbol since so many niche glyphs exist. One of them resembles the symbol for asteroid #3 (Juno) ( vs. ) and another a symbol for the bullshit planet Transpluto. If sugar daddies want to take Pluto that would work and there's even a Pluto symbol that looks like . Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 23:54, 6 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Completely unrelated but I can see a connection between alchemy (including symbols like ) and trans identities. EvergreenFir (talk) 04:22, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What it means to be a joint tenant[edit]

In our article on Carol Decker, it says the following:

That same year, Decker became a joint tenant of the Cherry Tree Inn at Stoke Row near Henley, which Coates had established.

The reference that is supplied doesn't really help me (an American) understand what this, possibly British, phrase means. What does it mean to become a joint tenant of an inn? Does she live there, like the Major in Fawlty Towers? Thanks for any additional exposition that you could provide on how common this is, etc. †dismas†|(talk) 16:11, 6 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Reference number 10 explains: Carol and her husband were renting the pub from the nearby Brakspear Brewery, and running it together. I expect the brewery's beers were heavily promoted there as part of the deal. I can't be certain that they lived there as well, but why not? Looks nice.  Card Zero  (talk) 16:23, 6 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
To add a bit to Card Zero's explanation - a lot of pubs in England are tied houses, where the brewery (a medium to large corporation) owns the building (and the name and goodwill of the pub business there) but it is rented and operated by tenants (the "landlord" or "publican") who own the business of the pub. They pay the brewery rent, and are, as Card Zero says, obligated to buy at least some of their beverages from the brewery. But they're business owners (not just managers); they'll make money if the business does well, and will lose (potentially a lot) if it does badly. A downside, for the tenant, is that they don't own the goodwill - so if they do well and are popular, and decide to move to a different pub (maybe a bigger one, or a free house where they're not beholden to the brewery) they can't take the name of the business with them. It's a bit like owning a McDonalds franchise, and also renting the building from McDonalds. The specific term "inn" isn't especially meaningful (and pub names tend toward the traditional, or faux-traditional), but one might broadly take it to mean a pub (which also sells food) and a number of hotel rooms. In such setups, it's very common for *someone* on the staff to live above the pub (because someone has to be there at night, and first thing in the morning) and that's often, but not always, the publican. It's extremely common for the tenants to be a couple, as the workload and time commitment would be overwhelming for one person. -- Finlay McWalter··–·Talk 17:19, 6 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
For more elaborate expositions, see here or here. In US English, "tenant landlord" is a contradictio in terminis, but see sense 2 for "landlord" at Wiktionary.  --Lambiam 19:05, 6 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It is if you're being very prescriptive, but someone might use "tenant landlord" to mean someone who lives in a building they own and rents out additional space/units in it, which is a thing that happens. --47.155.96.47 (talk) 01:57, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia covers the term "joint tenant" at concurrent estate. I have no idea whether what it says there applies correctly to British pubs. --184.144.97.125 (talk) 03:39, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No. That legal term was the first thing I thought of when I saw the question (forty years ago I was a law student). This arrangement might be a joint tenancy in law, but need not be, as tenant here means something rather different from the legal meaning of the word. --ColinFine (talk) 15:53, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you all for your assistance! †dismas†|(talk) 12:25, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]