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The Wall[edit]

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I wonder what should be done to this article to becoma FA. TGilmour (talk) 09:40, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ruhrfisch comments: Thnaks for your interest in getting this to FA, here are some suggestions for improvement. I was pleased with how well written this is, but think it would have some issues with comprehensiveness if it were sent to FAC in its current state.

TGilmour I note that you have made only a few edits to the article, and that they were fairly minor in nature. If you plan to take this to FAC, you need to check with the major contributors first (as one of the rules at WP:FAC is that Nominators who are not significant contributors to the article should consult regular editors of the article prior to a nomination.) The contributions by editor to this article can be see here.
I would consult with Parrot of Doom and GabeMc as they are the two main contributors to this article by number of edits.
When I read the article, I was surprised that there was not more on the album's Critical reception. Most FA album articles have a separate reception section, and for something like this, there are often sections on Musical style and on Themes. While there are some reviews quoted here, it seems like material that could be expanded quite a bit.
A model article is useful for ideas and examples to follow - there are many FAs on rock albums. Kid A may be a useful model.
I also note that there was an extensive peer review (linked above) done on this article in January of this year. This PR was by someone obviously pretty familair with the article and made multiple suggestions for expansion. I did not check evewrything mentioned, but the few things that I did check did not appear to have been acted on. There are technical details on the recording of the album as well as material on its legacy (graffitti on the Berlin Wall, being banned in apartheid era South Africa as black school children sang songs from it as a form of protest against their inferior school system). So the main thing I would do is look at that and see if the article can indeed be expanded in the ways mentioned in the PR.
I was surprised that there was no mention in the article itself of the Pink Floyd album Is There Anybody Out There? The Wall Live 1980–81, basically a concert album version.
The Wall (Pink Floyd) lists some things that are not in the article that I can see - the above live album, and Waters current (2010-2011) The Wall tour. Seems to me that a Legacy section might be the way to go with this post-album material.
I was surprised that there were not more images - I know that free images from that era will be difficult to obtain, but since the band and its individual members have continued to perform the album live, it seems as if more recent images of them would be justified.
There are also free images of Roger Waters performing live at the Berlin Wall in his article which could be included in that section.
A free image is useful for Main Page appearances too - perhaps a crop of File:Bundesarchiv Bild 183-1990-0722-405, Berlin, Aufführung der Rockoper "The Wall".jpg might fit the bill - shows a live performance by Waters at the Berlin Wall.
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Hope this helps. If my comments are useful, please consider peer reviewing an article, especially one at Wikipedia:Peer review/backlog (which is how I found this article). I do not watch peer reviews, so if you have questions or comments, please contact me on my talk page. Yours, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 18:29, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]