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Nevill Ground

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I've listed this article for peer review because I was considering taking this for FA in the future. I know there are a few areas that will need filling but I would like some feedback on what is currently in the article and what might be needed to be included for any future FA consideration.

Thanks, The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 16:05, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Feedback from Curly Turkey

I don't know anything about cricket (actually, I don't know much about sports). Feel free to larf at any of the silly things I might have to say.

• The History section moves rather quickly—did nothing remarkable happen between the two world wars? Or between 1946 and 1995?
• Unless you have a really good reason, it's not a good idea to set image sizes—it overrides user settings for one, and if you've chosen a particular size because it happens to look good on your screen, it will almost certainly not look nearly so nice on a different screen size or screen orientation.
• rather than [[cricket]] [[List of cricket grounds in England and Wales|venue]], I'd do [[List of cricket grounds in England and Wales|cricket venue]]. "Cricket" itself may be overlinking, and it's a bit surprising for the general word venue to link to something so specific.
• "is used by Tunbridge Wells CC as well as annually": on first reading, this reads as "is used by Tunbridge Wells CC as well" (as in "also Tunbridge Wells CC")—I had to read it twice to make sense of it. How about something like: "is used primarily by Tunbridge Wells CC, and annually for Tunbridge Wells Cricket Week ..."?
• "Tunbridge Wells CC": does "CC" stand for "Cricket Club"? It's hard to tell, since it's spelt out with "Kent County Cricket Club" later in the same sentence—ususally you would spell it out first, and then shorten it (although I wouldn't shorten it without making it clear that's what you're doing first).
  Would Tunbridge Wells CC be worth a redlink?
• "It was opened in 1898 and was first used by Kent in 1901 and has been used by them annually since then": "and ... and ..." is not that elegant. I'd split this sentence in two after "1901".
• "It played host to one One Day International": I wouldn't start a paragraph with "it". Also, what's a "One Day International"? Is it a tournament? Can it be summed up with a word or two so I don't have to click through?
• "the group stage match between": which is the "group stage match", the One Day International or the 1983 Cricket World Cup?
• "The Nevill Ground is known for having rhododendron bushes around the perimeter": this doesn't need an inline citation if it's already cited in the body (which it should be if it's in the lead—the lead should be a summary of the body). Also, I'd move this to the first paragraph, if it's a defining feature. It seems random to tack it onto the end of this paragraph.
• Actually, I'd move the historical stuff (suffragette arson) to the second paragraph as well—good to keep the paragraphs thematic. I might expand the historical stuff as well—it's usage in the two world wars, the 1993 Women's World Cup.
• "Tunbridge Wells Cricket, Football and Athletic Club": worth a redlink?
• "started in 1896 with it being officially opened": did it "start with being opened"? I'd reword to something like "started in 1896, and it was officially opened"
• "were also planted": why "also"? In addtion to what?
• I'd reorder some of the info in the first paragraph of "History", which doesn't seem to me to follow any logical order—we're told about the border running through it, the the rhododendrons, then the Railway End. Maybe order the border & railway stuff together?
• "C. H. Strange": worth a redlink?
• "It was built in 1903 at a cost of £1,200 and was destroyed in a suffragette arson attack in April 1913.": are these events so strongly linked they should be one sentence like this?
• "a temporary grandstand at the Nevill Ground": can this be expanded on?
• "1913 Arson": I don't like this being pulled oout of the chronology of the "History" section. Could it not be placed within the flow of "History", and break "History" into further subsections? "World Wars", "Post-War", etc, or whatever you think is appropriate
• File:Bluemantle stand Nevill Ground - geograph.org.uk - 1174829.jpg: per WP:IMAGELOCATION, should be placed within the section that refers to it, not before the header.
• "by militant suffragettes": is there something good to link here? Very tantalizing ...
• "The fire was started in the dressing rooms with the perpetrator setting fire to cricket nets that were being stored in there." I'd shorten this to something like: "The perpetrator set fire to cricket nets stored in the dressing rooms."—killing the passive and quickly getting to the point.
• "the fire in an hour": did it take them an hour before they managed to tame it? did it take them an hour to get it? Did it burn for an hour before it was noticed?
• "Emily Pankhurst": who? Can she be briefly summed up so I don't have to click through?
• "to have said "It is": I'd put a comma before the quote, although apparently it's acceptable without one (I don't understand why).
• "fund raising concerts": isn't "fundraising" one word?
• "It was formerly used to host association football however the Nevill Ground stopped hosting football in 1903.": I might shorten this to "It hosted association football until 1903."
• "one of its outgrounds": what's an outground? Is there something to link to, or a less jargony way to put it?
• "County Matches": Since It's Capitalized, I assume a County Match is something important. Worth a redlink, r a short explanation?
• "the demise of Mote Park": when did this happen?
• "In 2012, Kent's Friends Life Twenty20 match against Sussex was moved to the St. Lawrence Ground after the Nevill Ground was flooded after heavy rainfall leading to the 100th Tunbridge Wells Cricket Week being cut short.": how significant was this? Is it included only because it's recent? Is it rare for something like this to happen?
• "1983 World Cup", "1993 Women's World Cup": I'd make these a subsection of the "History" section"
• "one of the host grounds": along with ...?
• "the Nevill Ground being ruled as too small with India and Zimbabwe being deemed": "being ... being ..." reads awkwardly to me.
• "Despite this there ... no proof of this occurring": this is pretty wordy—it could easily be condensed into a single sentence.
• "one of the venues used in the 1993 Women's Cricket World Cup": alng with ...?
• "Kapil Dev scored 175": He's linked in the lead, but should also be linked at first mention in the body. I might also throw in an image: File:Kapil Dev at Equation sports auction.jpg is free, though it's from 2013.
• Maybe an image of Lord Harris as well? File:Ranji 1897 page 231 Lord Harris.jpg (1897) is free, and has him posing with a cricket bat.
• "This record was later beaten by Viv Richards.": When?
• How about a "Description" section? You could put the rhododendron, pavilion, etc stuff in there, as well as seating capacity, and remove that ugly citation out of the infobox.

———Curly Turkey (gobble) 00:07, 3 February 2014 (UTC)