Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Absinthe makes the heart grow fonder

Absinthe makes the heart grow fonder[edit]

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 29 Oct 2015 at 13:56:00 (UTC)

Reason: Excellent scan of a superb and well-known poster
Articles in which this image appears: Absinthe, Henri Privat-Livemont, Les Maîtres de l'Affiche
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Artwork/Others
Creator: Henri Privat-Livemont

Support as nominator – SchroCat (talk) 13:56, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – Aesthetically intriguing, but its use at Absinthe is incidental and it's not mentioned in the text. (I wonder whether the poster's slightly risqué character provoked any controversy in 1895 France.) Henri Privat-Livemont is a stub; French Wiki has a 300-word article that could be translated. Sca (talk) 16:01, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
~~Support~~ Was thinking about it myself some time ago. EV for Les Maîtres de l'Affiche in particular is there. Also a nice example of old school absinthe advertisements. Brandmeister^talk 19:31, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support – Yann (talk) 20:28, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
~~Support~~ Nice to feature someone other than Mucha. Samsara 20:47, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment – A retouched version of this photo would be a good FP candidate. JJARichardson (talk) 23:02, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:20, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support, also, quite entertaining title. — Cirt (talk) 00:28, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support - great poster, good image, good EV.--Godot13 (talk) 06:06, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Colours have been posterised a bit, and much of the bright, saturated skintones of the belle epoque have been turned to pale pastels. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 11:50, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Just to get an idea of what you mean, is there a better example among the many uploaded versions of this, or on the web? Samsara 13:12, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  - @Samsara: While it's probably gone a little too dark, and could be , [1]. The original source for this version is at File:Privat-Livemont_-_Absinthe_Robette_-_1896_-_Original.tif and, while it may not be perfect, it at least looks like a printed poster, instead of unnaturally bright hair and excessively pale skin. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 15:19, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    - It seems obvious to me that the pink of the paper was assumed to be fade and needed to be corrected for. Based on that assessment, the procedure was correct. Samsara 03:16, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Tremonist (talk) 13:30, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Can we PLEASE declare trialsanderrors a bad source for FPs? They're a fantastic restorationist, but absolutely abyssmal at colour balance. Very, very few of his works do not absolutely mangle the colours in the images, oftentimes in superficially pleasing ways, but almost never in ways that meet the basic standards of FP, such as accuracy. This should not pass, and if it passes, I will immediately nominate it for delisting. Sometimes, FPC shouldn't just be a vote. This is one of those cases. It violates a core rule of FPC: Criterion 8, fourth bullet point: "Any manipulation which causes the main subject to be misrepresented is unacceptable." This wasn't drawn in bright red lines, and, although it was a poster, it wasn't posterized. I hate these big rants, but I was away for a few days, and come back to a hugely supported image that really should not pass, too late to really raise issues any other way. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 15:28, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Having compared this with the original tiff, I have to admit that colors indeed were pushed too far thus stripping the image off its vintage look. Also the borders were significantly clipped during restoration. I'd be happy if someone restores this better, so temporarily withdrawing my support. Brandmeister^talk 17:32, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Adam, I don't really understand why so much rant against this file. I don't claim it is perfect, it is not so bad either. I will try to make an alternative. Are the colors of File:Absinthe Robette, Privat-Livemont 1896.jpg OK? (restoration still to be done) Regards, Yann (talk) 00:12, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose The contrast has been increased to the point that there is lost info in the lightest part of the body, other examples clearly show a pink hue, but here, it's totally white. --Janke | Talk 06:44, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
~sigh~ Armbrust could you withdraw this please. As Adam has changed the image on the three pages listed above, the EV has diminished. If this is only going to go through for him to make attempts to have it delisted there seems little point in continuing. Thanks. – SchroCat (talk) 07:50, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 07:55, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Withdrawn nomination. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 07:55, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]