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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list removal nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was kept by Giants2008 19:22, 20 January 2013 [1].

List of Test cricket hat-tricks[edit]

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This is an FL that passed all the way back in March 2006, and has numerous issues that result in a failure to meet FL criteria in 2013. Among the problems are the following:

  • Most significantly, the entire Notable Test hat-tricks section is unsourced and has been tagged since July 2011. There's a lot of ugly bolding in this section, and some of the more notable feats would be better off in the lead. It's also unclear what makes an accomplishment notable, particularly since there's no referencing proving that it is noteworthy.
    • "Notable hat-tricks" section has now gone, with some of the content being merged into an expended lead -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:20, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • The lead has the old-fashioned bold "This is a list of" opening, and is underwhelming in general.
    • Old bold opening has gone, and hopefully the lead is now more engaging -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:37, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • The table needs work to meet WP:ACCESS.
    • Resolved (I think - not an expert on ACCESS requirements.....) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:54, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm not a big fan of the external links in the Test column, which should probably be references instead.
  • No need for the first two words in the List of Test hat-tricks section.
  • See also should come before Notes.
  • Many notes are unreferenced.
    • Seems to have been sorted - the notes were pretty extraneous and have been removed -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:03, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note 22 has a bare link.
  • One of the general references is to h2g2, an online encyclopedia that is probably not a reliable source. Surely we can find a better source than this?
  • Giants2008 (Talk) 00:26, 2 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'll take a look at this one, and will hopefully be able to start work later today..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:20, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
      • Between edits by myself and Vensatry (talk · contribs), all that appears to be left from the above is the issue of the ext links to scorecards within the table. I will endeavour to get to that ASAP -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:54, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
        • For good measure, I've also added some more images and a key.......although I can't think of a decent way to word the definition of the "no." column.....I'm open to suggestions ;-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:08, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Chris and Venastry have done some admirable work! I've made a few adjustments, but I think the list now meets the criteria once again. NapHit (talk) 13:29, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment re-review once the multiple refs which just say "tbc" are filled out. I thought the same, the so-called notable hat-tricks needed to go, with no definitive {{inclusion}} criteria. Good work so far, please ping me once the refs are all sorted out. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:18, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep so far so good, refs are fixed up, I've fixed the dab link, it's in a good state. My only comment would be the dubious use of a gallery, not great in my opinion, but it's simply that, an preference, nothing more. Good work. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:23, 5 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This is just to provide more space for the list. Zia Khan 06:15, 6 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I've made some changes and I think this is batter than the previous version. The references are sorted out. Zia Khan 00:33, 5 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comments – A lot of quality work has been done here, and this is just about ready to be kept. A couple little nagging issues remain, though.

  • "In the five-match series between a Rest of the World XI against England in 1970". "against" → "and"?
  • I'm not a big fan of the gallery above the key either.
  • Names should be sorting by last name, not first name. I know this doesn't apply for a few of the nations, but surely the bowlers from England, South Africa, and Australia/New Zealand, at least, should be sorting by last name. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:15, 12 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • I have added sortnames for all bowlers other than those from Pakistan/India/Sri Lanka. Perhaps someone more knowledgable than I am can advise on how their names should sort..........? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:15, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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