Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Tokio Hotel discography

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Scorpion0422 22:15, 17 January 2009 [1].

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Tokio Hotel discography

I am co-nominating this with User:AngelOfSadness; it is her first FLC nomination. We think it comparable to other Featured discographies. All comments will be addressed. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 03:52, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

I happily co-nom this article with Matthewedwards as for reasons already mentioned. It is quite comprehensive as it lists all official releases, known certifications/chart positions etc., all of which is easily verifiable through the reliable sources cited and I believe it meets the WP:WIAFL critera. Cheers. AngelOfSadness talk 16:00, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Resolved comments from Truco

Comments from Truco (talk · contribs)

• Zimmer 483 was released on 23 February 2007, and hit the top spot on the German albums chart. - how about instead of "hit" use reached?

• done

• On 4 June 2007, Tokio Hotel released their first English language album, Scream throughout Europe. - Either remove the comma before the album name or add a comma after it

• done (added)

• "Ready, Set, Go!" was released in the United Kingdom though it failed to enter the Top 40; it spent just one week at Number 77 before dropping out of the charts. - comma before "though"

• done

• "Don't Jump" was released in 2008 as Scream's final single. - this makes it seem like the band is no longer together, is it suppose to sound this way?

• The band are Tokio Hotel, the album is Scream. This just means it was the last single taken from the album. I've reworded and I'll try to find a reference for their yet-to-be-released new album to emphasise the fact that the band is still together.

• • Gotcha.--Truco 22:59, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
• Punctuation should be within quotation marks, unless I am wrong.

• Only if the punctuation is part of the title, or part of a quote, AFAIK. Which one are you referring to?

--Truco 22:13, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 04:16, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

• I was referring to all the punctuation that was outside the quotation marks for the names of the songs. But I am aware now that its suppose to be like that, thanks for letting me know.--Truco 22:59, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

• Support - my comments were resolved to meet WP:WIAFL.--Truco 22:59, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Quick comment: those "year in music" (like 2008 in music) links are unnecessary. I think they should be removed. For eg: 2005 in music doesn't even mention Tokio Hotel. indopug (talk) 10:05, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

• done - AngelOfSadness talk 15:56, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 17:38, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Resolved issues, Dabomb87 (talk)

Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)

• "was certified Platinum" Any reason "Platinum" o\is capitalized?

• done - Although the featured List of music recording sales certifications has gold & platinum etc. capitalised in the prose (it's the same on the promoted version of that list also) but I changed the capitalisation in this discography as every other featured discography has it non-capitalised. If I'm wrong feel free to revert.

• "The album's second single, "Spring nicht"" Comma after here.

• done

• "In German speaking countries,"-->In countries with German-speaking populations,

• done

• ""Don't Jump" was the final single to be from Scream."-->"Don't Jump" was the final single to be spawned from Scream.

• done

Dabomb87 (talk) 22:15, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

AngelOfSadness talk 19:18, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 17:38, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

• Spell out lesser-known abbreviations such as SNEP and ORF.
• What makes http://www.disqueenfrance.com/certifications/video.asp?forme_certif=19&annee=25 a reliable source?

• The International Federation of the Phonographic Industry links to the Société Civile des Producteurs Phonographiques site (http://www.scpp.fr/SCPP/), which is the French company that collects royalty payments for artists when their songs are played on the radio, tv, or purchased. They link to Syndicat National de l'Édition Phonographique, which on the front page says:

  Créé en 1922, le Syndicat National de l'édition Phonographique regroupe 48 membres dont il est le porte-parole et le représentant, vis-à-vis du Gouvernement, des parlementaires et de l'administration, que des autres organisations professionnelles, de la presse et du public.

  My French isn't too good these days, but basically its been around since 1922, and is made up of 48 members including the Government, Administrative Parliament, the press, public and other professional organisations. DisqueEnFrance.com is the official site.Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 07:32, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

• What makes http://www.tokiohotelamerica.com/2008/12/25/gold-in-italy/, a fan club site, reliable? Dabomb87 (talk) 22:15, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

• They claim to be the official US fan club website, but I've replaced it with the offical Italian Tokio Hotel website. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 07:32, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

• The link checker shows that several links are dead. Dabomb87 (talk) 18:28, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

• Just fixed them. Hopefully the new links are working ok. AngelOfSadness talk 19:09, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

• They do, but now some other things have turned up.

• Spell out lesser-known abbreviations such as ORF and SNEP.

• Done Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email)

• Refs 43 and 48–58 needs publishers. Some of those also need the language= parameters filled in. Dabomb87 (talk) 19:39, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

• Done Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email)

Support:

• The country names in the title shouldn't be in bold

• done - fixed

• I don't believe this is correct. The country names are part of the table header, and should be bolded. I am yet to see a table with unbolded headers. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email)

• At first I wasn't sure about it but many other Featured discographies have the countries unbolded like Foo Fighters discography, Goldfrapp discography, Nine Inch Nails discography and 50 Cent discography so I changed it as all of the ones I checked were unbolded. AngelOfSadness talk 17:11, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

• {{nowrap|IFPI (Austria): 2× Platinum → AUT: 2× Platinum

• Not done yet as I don't have to fix all of them at the moment but I'll fix them within the next 24 hours if no one else has fixed it in the meantime.

• Maybe add catalog numbers?

• done - added to all studio, video and live albums

• Personally, I don't feel these add any encyclopedic value, but since it's been done - meh. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email)

• I added them as suggested in Wikipedia:WikiProject Discographies/style where all catalog numbers should be added (only for albums and only if they were notable releases). The Discography more than proves that the releases are notable so they were added. AngelOfSadness talk 17:11, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

• Album → Album details

• done

• US → U.S.

• done

• I'm reverting this per WP:MOS. Since "UK" is used, "US" must also be used - It is never "U.K.", otherwise "U.S." would be okay. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email)

• Just for clarification, either can be used; however, U.S. is more prevalent, especially in American English. Since this article doesn't seem to use American English and does not concern an American subject (not sure which variant is used), there seems to be no reason to change. I know I said otherwise earlier, I was wrong. Dabomb87 (talk) 04:06, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

• The article uses British English and British date formatting. "US" is much more common in the UK, because "UK" is never "U.K.". MOS actually says "never add periods" (Wikipedia:MOS#Acronyms and abbreviations):

  In American English, U.S. is the standard abbreviation for United States; US is becoming more common and is standard in other national forms of English ... If the abbreviated form of the United States appears predominantly alongside other abbreviated country names, for consistency it is preferable to avoid periods throughout; never add periods to the other abbreviations (the US, the UK and the PRC, not the U.S., the U.K. and the P.R.C.).

  Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 05:46, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

• As an article's spelling and grammer/punctuation use is based on where the subject is from I was unsure which one was more correct in this case. But, looking at it MOS links provided by Mattewedwards, US is actually correct. AngelOfSadness talk 17:11, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

• Single → Song

• done

• Everything should be organized as it appears in the infobox

• done

• No, because it splits the "music" section up by sticking the "videos" part in between. I've put this back. It's an issue with the infobox, not the page layout. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email)

• Director → Director(s)

• done

• Music video → Title

• done

• Music video titles shouldn't be in italics

• done

• In the Other appearances section:
  • Song title → Song
  • Release → Album/Single

• done

• DVDs → Video albums

• done

-- Underneath-it-All (talk) 19:00, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

AngelOfSadness talk 21:57, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

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