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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by IMatthew 16:47, 7 November 2009 [1].

Timeline of the 1987 Atlantic hurricane season[edit]

Nominator(s): Cyclonebiskit (talk) 20:38, 2 October 2009 (UTC) Jason Rees (talk) 20:44, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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I am re-nominating this for featured list because it meets all FL criteria and all concerns from the previous nomination have been addressed. In regards to the discussion on the HURDAT source, there is an article available on reading it located here. All comments are welcome. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 20:38, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Geraldk
  • Comment - What's the point of the "preceded by" and "followed by" box at the bottom of the page if it does not list to the preceding and following articles? Geraldk (talk) 18:09, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It generally does link to the preceeding and following years timeline, and there is talk of 1988 AHS getting a timeline though i believe nothings been done yet.Jason Rees (talk) 12:28, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • The 1988 AHS does have a timeline, I've linked it in the box Cyclonebiskit (talk) 16:30, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Also, where in the article is the explanation of HURDAT data listed or linked? From a readers perspective, it would make sense for the references that use it to have a note explaining what the data is that they will see and a wikilink to an explanation of it. Geraldk (talk) 18:58, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I believe it is linked to the references using Hurdat though ill doublecheck that later.Jason Rees (talk) 12:28, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Added a link specific reference just after the first use of the HURDAT reference. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 16:30, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from KV5
Comments from KV5
  • "The 1987 Atlantic hurricane season was a below-average season" - needs a reference; I don't know, and many readers will not, what an "average" or "below-average" season is.
  • "making the 1987 season the fourth to do so since 1967." - wording is awkward, and should also have a reference
Both are referenced by the reference at the end of the paragraph i would put Refname there but ive been shouted at by a certain JC on IRC and told its redudant. I think theres an article explaing what an average season etc is so ill find it and wikilink it.Jason Rees (talk) 12:49, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know what a JC is, and I don't use IRC, but WP:V says that any statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged need a citation. The first one isn't being challenged, per se; it's just a matter of knowing if the facts are legitimate. The second one is being challenged, so it needs support. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 17:08, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Wow thats a rarety some one who doesnt know who User:Juliancolton is. Anyway im digressing as i said it appears they are both sourced to the first source in the article, which is the seasonal summuary written by the hurricane specialists after the season.Jason Rees (talk) 17:16, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I know who Juliancolton is; I've just never heard him called that before. JC is someone else to me, and I don't think He uses IRC. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 17:32, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ah right anyway lets not digrese :).
  • "a pre-season storm, Tropical Depression One, led to the season's starting on May 25" - reads awkwardly to me; suggest a pre-season storm, Tropical Depression One, opened the season early on May 25
  • Reason why the "related article" is in a box instead of a hatnote?
I think both a hatnote and a related article box is redundant now sicne its linked to in the first sentance - i will take them out later.Jason Rees (talk) 12:28, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • October 10 is missing a local time.
Sorted Jason Rees (talk) 12:28, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hope these comments help. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 12:08, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think me and CB have caught evreything but if not let us know ASAP. Jason Rees (talk) 17:39, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The images need alt text. Dabomb87 (talk) 16:34, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unless im going blind they all have it.Jason Rees (talk) 16:35, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You apparently are going blind, most didn't have it :P I've added the alt text to all images now. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 17:09, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Check the alt text link in the toolbox one more time. The Hurricane Emily pic does not have alt text. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:18, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Also, I was asked to look at the satellite images' alt text. It looks good, except please omit repetition of the caption and/or details that a nonexpert won't know (typically these are the same thing). The phrases I saw that need removal from alt text are "Tropical Storm Dennis" and "Hurricane Arlene". Eubulides (talk) 05:31, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed Cyclonebiskit (talk) 23:37, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support I'm comfortable supporting now. A couple minor notes, though. For the June subsection, it's a little odd that the explanation that there was no activity looks like it's in the June 1 sub-sub-section. I don't know if there's anyway to fix that within the bounds of your project's syntax for these timelines, but wanted to point it out. Also, I can't figure out why, but in the wikilink to HURDAT in the ref, the preceding parenthesis is part of the title link, rather than simply enclosing the link, such that the title reads, "Atlantic Hurricane Best Track Database (". Anyone know how to fix that? Geraldk (talk) 20:02, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Goodraise (talk · contribs)

Image licensing seems fine. Sources look good. Goodraise 17:38, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Added the alt text and changed ref. 4 to a note. Thanks for the review Cyclonebiskit (talk) 17:52, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The 1987 Atlantic hurricane season was a below-average season" - What does that mean?
  • "This season had fourteen tropical" - Make it "The season had fourteen tropical"
  • A few more internal links would be nice in the lead.

Goodraise 17:56, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Links added, specified what a below average season is and made the minor fix Cyclonebiskit (talk) 18:15, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Image licensing and alt text seems fine. Sources look good. I can support this nomination. Good work. Goodraise 18:23, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 17:49, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
" - swap pipe for semi-colon!
  • "Exact time unknown" - no need for small font, just less accessible.

Otherwise very good. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:54, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review Cyclonebiskit (talk) 18:21, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)

  • "$80.3 million (1987 USD, $154.2 million in 2009 USD)" Use {{inflation}} instead so that you don't have to constantly update this figure.
I cant figure out how to add it in and make it look tidyJason Rees (talk) 19:16, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Added the template Cyclonebiskit (talk) 19:47, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • AST needs a link in the timeline. Dabomb87 (talk) 01:13, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
its already linked Jason Rees (talk) 19:16, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 01:13, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]


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